The VP

[wbtravis007]

For someone who claims he ignores me, Flock sure obsesses over me a lot. And the farther along he goes, the more ridiculous and incoherent he gets.

I think you two need to go get a room.

I think the stalker needs to get a life.

ICM!

[Bob Juch]

How is it that you imagine so? Please enlighten me.

She slept with her married boss, over twice her age, no Denzel Washington and "Brown did appoint Harris to two political posts in 1994 while he served as Speaker of the California Assembly."

You apparently don't comprehend: Although Brown was technically still married during the time period that he dated Harris, he had been estranged from his wife Blanche Brown for more than a decade.

I comprehend that technically still married is married. Is that not true?

That's what it says. So?

[BackInTex]

You apparently don't comprehend: Although Brown was technically still married during the time period that he dated Harris, he had been estranged from his wife Blanche Brown for more than a decade.

I comprehend that technically still married is married. Is that not true?

That's what it says. So?

Forgive me, but I haven't followed this too closely, but lets just ignore the fact that Brown was married. Let's say he was single, never married. 1. Was he was her boss? 2. Did she sleep with him? 3. After sleeping with him, did he appoint her to a political post?

[Bob78164]

I comprehend that technically still married is married. Is that not true?

That's what it says. So?

Forgive me, but I haven't followed this too closely, but lets just ignore the fact that Brown was married. Let's say he was single, never married. 1. Was he was her boss? 2. Did she sleep with him? 3. After sleeping with him, did he appoint her to a political post?

He was not her boss, either directly or indirectly. At the time of their relationship, he was Speaker of the California Assembly (a state official), and she was an Assistant District Attorney for Alameda County (a county official). --Bob

[Bob Juch]

I comprehend that technically still married is married. Is that not true?

That's what it says. So?

Forgive me, but I haven't followed this too closely, but lets just ignore the fact that Brown was married. Let's say he was single, never married. 1. Was he was her boss? 2. Did she sleep with him? 3. After sleeping with him, did he appoint her to a political post?

He was not her boss.

[BackInTex]

That's what it says. So?

Forgive me, but I haven't followed this too closely, but lets just ignore the fact that Brown was married. Let's say he was single, never married. 1. Was he was her boss? 2. Did she sleep with him? 3. After sleeping with him, did he appoint her to a political post?

He was not her boss.

Oh, ok. So she slept with him and he gave her political appointments. 2 of 3.

Esto is right?

[Bob78164]

Forgive me, but I haven't followed this too closely, but lets just ignore the fact that Brown was married. Let's say he was single, never married. 1. Was he was her boss? 2. Did she sleep with him? 3. After sleeping with him, did he appoint her to a political post?

He was not her boss.

Oh, ok. So she slept with him and he gave her political appointments. 2 of 3.

Esto is right?

Not remotely close. Because Esto clearly implied the future Vice President (a) got appointments she didn't deserve, and (b) entered into the relationship with Speaker Brown in order to get those appointments. And those are implications Esto would never have drawn were the genders reversed. As I said, when people get job opportunities because of personal relationships, we often congratulate them and sometimes call them Ambassador. --Bob

[BackInTex]

He was not her boss.

Oh, ok. So she slept with him and he gave her political appointments. 2 of 3.

Esto is right?

Not remotely close. Because Esto clearly implied the future Vice President (a) got appointments she didn't deserve, and (b) entered into the relationship with Speaker Brown in order to get those appointments. And those are implications Esto would never have drawn were the genders reversed. As I said, when people get job opportunities because of personal relationships, we often congratulate them and sometimes call them Ambassador. --Bob

Are you saying that because someone might not draw the same conclusion if facts were different then the original conclusion is wrong? Seems like that is what you are saying, which is flawed reasoning, even in high school debate class.

I know you think gender doesn't matter, we are all the same, biologically and emotionally, but the actual truth is men are highly more likely to grant favors for sex than women are. And because of that, some women use their sexuality to get things they may not be able to get otherwise. It's been that way for 1,000s of years and your wokeness won't change that history, or the way things currently work.

None of what I've said implies the VP got anything she didn't earn or deserve. Like I said, I haven't dug into the story so I don't know all the facts, however, you nor others have said anything to counter Esto's assertion. You've only corroborated his evidence he is using to make his assertion.

You are dismissing the VPs sexual relationship as only a personal one. You know that is several levels above just a personal relationship. That differentiation will always be included in a trial if a relationship is a meaningful part of evidence.

[Bob78164]

I know you think gender doesn't matter, we are all the same, biologically and emotionally, but the actual truth is men are highly more likely to grant favors for sex than women are. And because of that, some women use their sexuality to get things they may not be able to get otherwise. It's been that way for 1,000s of years and your wokeness won't change that history, or the way things currently work.

The actual truth is that for almost all of human history, men have been in a much better position than women to grant favors of any sort for any reason. It's been that way for thousands of years, and your Neanderthal views won't change that history, or the sexism underlying Esto's attack on the Vice President.

There MIGHT be an argument that Speaker Brown had done something wrong. There might be such an argument, that is, if the relationship were not generally known at the time of the appointments or if the future Vice President had received positions for which she was unqualified. (Remember "Heckuva job, Brownie"?) But none of that is true, and there is no basis whatsoever for using this history as a basis to impugn the future Vice President. So I'll stick to my opinion that Esto revealed himself to be a sexist pig. --Bob

[tlynn78]

I know you think gender doesn't matter, we are all the same, biologically and emotionally, but the actual truth is men are highly more likely to grant favors for sex than women are. And because of that, some women use their sexuality to get things they may not be able to get otherwise. It's been that way for 1,000s of years and your wokeness won't change that history, or the way things currently work.

The actual truth is that for almost all of human history, men have been in a much better position than women to grant favors of any sort for any reason. It's been that way for thousands of years, and your Neanderthal views won't change that history, or the sexism underlying Esto's attack on the Vice President.

There MIGHT be an argument that Speaker Brown had done something wrong. There might be such an argument, that is, if the relationship were not generally known at the time of the appointments or if the future Vice President had received positions for which she was unqualified. (Remember "Heckuva job, Brownie"?) But none of that is true, and there is no basis whatsoever for using this history as a basis to impugn the future Vice President. So I'll stick to my opinion that Esto revealed himself to be a sexist pig. --Bob

You know what they say about opinions...

[Spock]

I know you think gender doesn't matter, we are all the same, biologically and emotionally, but the actual truth is men are highly more likely to grant favors for sex than women are. And because of that, some women use their sexuality to get things they may not be able to get otherwise. It's been that way for 1,000s of years and your wokeness won't change that history, or the way things currently work.

The actual truth is that for almost all of human history, men have been in a much better position than women to grant favors of any sort for any reason. It's been that way for thousands of years, and your Neanderthal views won't change that history, or the sexism underlying Esto's attack on the Vice President.

There MIGHT be an argument that Speaker Brown had done something wrong. There might be such an argument, that is, if the relationship were not generally known at the time of the appointments or if the future Vice President had received positions for which she was unqualified. (Remember "Heckuva job, Brownie"?) But none of that is true, and there is no basis whatsoever for using this history as a basis to impugn the future Vice President. So I'll stick to my opinion that Esto revealed himself to be a sexist pig. --Bob

You know what they say about opinions...

I am shocked, shocked I say that he is still here. Of the 3, (SSS and the Bobs) he is the youngest and presumably the most physical fit. Why isn't he off joining the Ukrainian International Legion to cash some of the checks that his mouth has written over the years? I get that it is fun to slam TGirl and Esto ( and me)-but time is a wastin' and the Ukrainians need him ASAP for their fight against Trump and Putin.

It is the Abraham Lincoln Brigade of our time.

[Spock]

The actual truth is that for almost all of human history, men have been in a much better position than women to grant favors of any sort for any reason. It's been that way for thousands of years, and your Neanderthal views won't change that history, or the sexism underlying Esto's attack on the Vice President.

There MIGHT be an argument that Speaker Brown had done something wrong. There might be such an argument, that is, if the relationship were not generally known at the time of the appointments or if the future Vice President had received positions for which she was unqualified. (Remember "Heckuva job, Brownie"?) But none of that is true, and there is no basis whatsoever for using this history as a basis to impugn the future Vice President. So I'll stick to my opinion that Esto revealed himself to be a sexist pig. --Bob

You know what they say about opinions...

I am shocked, shocked I say that he is still here. Of the 3, (SSS and the Bobs) he is the youngest and presumably the most physical fit. Why isn't he off joining the Ukrainian International Legion to cash some of the checks that his mouth has written over the years? I get that it is fun to slam TGirl and Esto ( and me)-but time is a wastin' and the Ukrainians need him ASAP for their fight against Trump and Putin.

It is the Abraham Lincoln Brigade of our time.

I am reminded of SilverCamaro's (I think)response to one of Bob#'s many-"I will not put up with" whatever the issue of the day. was She asked him if he was going to slip blood thinners into elderly Trump supporters drinks so they would bleed to death from paper cuts.

[Bob78164]

The actual truth is that for almost all of human history, men have been in a much better position than women to grant favors of any sort for any reason. It's been that way for thousands of years, and your Neanderthal views won't change that history, or the sexism underlying Esto's attack on the Vice President.

There MIGHT be an argument that Speaker Brown had done something wrong. There might be such an argument, that is, if the relationship were not generally known at the time of the appointments or if the future Vice President had received positions for which she was unqualified. (Remember "Heckuva job, Brownie"?) But none of that is true, and there is no basis whatsoever for using this history as a basis to impugn the future Vice President. So I'll stick to my opinion that Esto revealed himself to be a sexist pig. --Bob

You know what they say about opinions...

I am shocked, shocked I say that he is still here. Of the 3, (SSS and the Bobs) he is the youngest and presumably the most physical fit. Why isn't he off joining the Ukrainian International Legion to cash some of the checks that his mouth has written over the years? I get that it is fun to slam TGirl and Esto ( and me)-but time is a wastin' and the Ukrainians need him ASAP for their fight against Trump and Putin.

It is the Abraham Lincoln Brigade of our time.

What part of "I don't think it's worth putting American boots on the ground" (my stated position on Ukraine) leads you to believe this feeble attempt at mockery is effective to anyone who hasn't already drunk the Kool-Aid? Or were the words I used too big for you to comprehend?

You've never answered my question, though. The steps we are taking to support Ukraine will undoubtedly lead to higher inflation and higher gas prices here at home. That's money out of your pocket. Are you, personally, willing to bear that cost to support the people in Ukraine who are actually risking their lives? Or are you going to bitch that actually doing something to help others is too inconvenient or distasteful for you, which is exactly what you've done with the COVID vaccine?

I should add, by the way, that over on Facebook I've seen Bored members book Air BnBs in Ukraine. Not because they have any intention whatsoever of using those reservations, but as a quick way of putting money in the hands of Ukrainian families. Would you care to emulate that admirable example? It's a fairly easy way for you to contribute to the war effort. --Bob

[flockofseagulls104]

You know what they say about opinions...

I am shocked, shocked I say that he is still here. Of the 3, (SSS and the Bobs) he is the youngest and presumably the most physical fit. Why isn't he off joining the Ukrainian International Legion to cash some of the checks that his mouth has written over the years? I get that it is fun to slam TGirl and Esto ( and me)-but time is a wastin' and the Ukrainians need him ASAP for their fight against Trump and Putin.

It is the Abraham Lincoln Brigade of our time.

What part of "I don't think it's worth putting American boots on the ground" (my stated position on Ukraine) leads you to believe this feeble attempt at mockery is effective to anyone who hasn't already drunk the Kool-Aid? Or were the words I used too big for you to comprehend?

You've never answered my question, though. The steps we are taking to support Ukraine will undoubtedly lead to higher inflation and higher gas prices here at home. That's money out of your pocket. Are you, personally, willing to bear that cost to support the people in Ukraine who are actually risking their lives? Or are you going to bitch that actually doing something to help others is too inconvenient or distasteful for you, which is exactly what you've done with the COVID vaccine?

I should add, by the way, that over on Facebook I've seen Bored members book Air BnBs in Ukraine. Not because they have any intention whatsoever of using those reservations, but as a quick way of putting money in the hands of Ukrainian families. Would you care to emulate that admirable example? It's a fairly easy way for you to contribute to the war effort. --Bob

One thing I think your virtuous heart is not considering, bob. Higher oil prices affect LOTS of other things. Leading to higher prices for everything made from or that uses oil. Added to the already spiraling inflation we had before Ukraine.

What about the poor, the unfortunate and the already destitute people in this country? Or the people who are just barely making it? Sure, YOU can afford to sacrifice and look down and denigrate others who are not as pure and virtuous as you, with your above-average lawyer salary. But what about them, bob? Have you given any thought to how it affects other people, except where it gives you the opportunity to expound on how you are superior to everyone else?

[Bob Juch]

I am shocked, shocked I say that he is still here. Of the 3, (SSS and the Bobs) he is the youngest and presumably the most physical fit. Why isn't he off joining the Ukrainian International Legion to cash some of the checks that his mouth has written over the years? I get that it is fun to slam TGirl and Esto ( and me)-but time is a wastin' and the Ukrainians need him ASAP for their fight against Trump and Putin.

It is the Abraham Lincoln Brigade of our time.

What part of "I don't think it's worth putting American boots on the ground" (my stated position on Ukraine) leads you to believe this feeble attempt at mockery is effective to anyone who hasn't already drunk the Kool-Aid? Or were the words I used too big for you to comprehend?

You've never answered my question, though. The steps we are taking to support Ukraine will undoubtedly lead to higher inflation and higher gas prices here at home. That's money out of your pocket. Are you, personally, willing to bear that cost to support the people in Ukraine who are actually risking their lives? Or are you going to bitch that actually doing something to help others is too inconvenient or distasteful for you, which is exactly what you've done with the COVID vaccine?

I should add, by the way, that over on Facebook I've seen Bored members book Air BnBs in Ukraine. Not because they have any intention whatsoever of using those reservations, but as a quick way of putting money in the hands of Ukrainian families. Would you care to emulate that admirable example? It's a fairly easy way for you to contribute to the war effort. --Bob

One thing I think your virtuous heart is not considering, bob. Higher oil prices affect LOTS of other things. Leading to higher prices for everything made from or that uses oil. Added to the already spiraling inflation we had before Ukraine.

What about the poor, the unfortunate and the already destitute people in this country? Or the people who are just barely making it? Sure, YOU can afford to sacrifice and look down and denigrate others who are not as pure and virtuous as you, with your above-average lawyer salary. But what about them, bob? Have you given any thought to how it affects other people, except where it gives you the opportunity to expound on how you are superior to everyone else?

The worst-off people in the U.S. are far better than the average Ukrainian right now.

[Bob78164]

I am shocked, shocked I say that he is still here. Of the 3, (SSS and the Bobs) he is the youngest and presumably the most physical fit. Why isn't he off joining the Ukrainian International Legion to cash some of the checks that his mouth has written over the years? I get that it is fun to slam TGirl and Esto ( and me)-but time is a wastin' and the Ukrainians need him ASAP for their fight against Trump and Putin.

It is the Abraham Lincoln Brigade of our time.

What part of "I don't think it's worth putting American boots on the ground" (my stated position on Ukraine) leads you to believe this feeble attempt at mockery is effective to anyone who hasn't already drunk the Kool-Aid? Or were the words I used too big for you to comprehend?

You've never answered my question, though. The steps we are taking to support Ukraine will undoubtedly lead to higher inflation and higher gas prices here at home. That's money out of your pocket. Are you, personally, willing to bear that cost to support the people in Ukraine who are actually risking their lives? Or are you going to bitch that actually doing something to help others is too inconvenient or distasteful for you, which is exactly what you've done with the COVID vaccine?

I should add, by the way, that over on Facebook I've seen Bored members book Air BnBs in Ukraine. Not because they have any intention whatsoever of using those reservations, but as a quick way of putting money in the hands of Ukrainian families. Would you care to emulate that admirable example? It's a fairly easy way for you to contribute to the war effort. --Bob

One thing I think your virtuous heart is not considering, bob. Higher oil prices affect LOTS of other things. Leading to higher prices for everything made from or that uses oil. Added to the already spiraling inflation we had before Ukraine.

What about the poor, the unfortunate and the already destitute people in this country? Or the people who are just barely making it? Sure, YOU can afford to sacrifice and look down and denigrate others who are not as pure and virtuous as you, with your above-average lawyer salary. But what about them, bob? Have you given any thought to how it affects other people, except where it gives you the opportunity to expound on how you are superior to everyone else?

As a matter of fact I have. I continue to support the now-expired tax break that was part of the American Rescue Plan. It seems like a very good way to help shield the neediest among us from the effects of inflation. And if billionaires have to give back the tax breaks they got in 2017 in order to pay for that support, I'm okay with that too. --Bob

[silverscreenselect]

What about the poor, the unfortunate and the already destitute people in this country? Or the people who are just barely making it? Sure, YOU can afford to sacrifice and look down and denigrate others who are not as pure and virtuous as you, with your above-average lawyer salary. But what about them, bob? Have you given any thought to how it affects other people, except where it gives you the opportunity to expound on how you are superior to everyone else?

If I had a nickel for every time Flock gave a shit about the "unfortunate and the already destitute people in this country," other than those who were busy storming the US Capitol and attending MAGA rallies, I would still be waiting for my first nickel.

[tlynn78]

I am shocked, shocked I say that he is still here. Of the 3, (SSS and the Bobs) he is the youngest and presumably the most physical fit. Why isn't he off joining the Ukrainian International Legion to cash some of the checks that his mouth has written over the years? I get that it is fun to slam TGirl and Esto ( and me)-but time is a wastin' and the Ukrainians need him ASAP for their fight against Trump and Putin.

It is the Abraham Lincoln Brigade of our time.

What part of "I don't think it's worth putting American boots on the ground" (my stated position on Ukraine) leads you to believe this feeble attempt at mockery is effective to anyone who hasn't already drunk the Kool-Aid? Or were the words I used too big for you to comprehend?

You've never answered my question, though. The steps we are taking to support Ukraine will undoubtedly lead to higher inflation and higher gas prices here at home. That's money out of your pocket. Are you, personally, willing to bear that cost to support the people in Ukraine who are actually risking their lives? Or are you going to bitch that actually doing something to help others is too inconvenient or distasteful for you, which is exactly what you've done with the COVID vaccine?

I should add, by the way, that over on Facebook I've seen Bored members book Air BnBs in Ukraine. Not because they have any intention whatsoever of using those reservations, but as a quick way of putting money in the hands of Ukrainian families. Would you care to emulate that admirable example? It's a fairly easy way for you to contribute to the war effort. --Bob

One thing I think your virtuous heart is not considering, bob. Higher oil prices affect LOTS of other things. Leading to higher prices for everything made from or that uses oil. Added to the already spiraling inflation we had before Ukraine.

What about the poor, the unfortunate and the already destitute people in this country? Or the people who are just barely making it? Sure, YOU can afford to sacrifice and look down and denigrate others who are not as pure and virtuous as you, with your above-average lawyer salary. But what about them, bob? Have you given any thought to how it affects other people, except where it gives you the opportunity to expound on how you are superior to everyone else?

All the more people to pick his strawberries and scrub his toilet.

[flockofseagulls104]

What part of "I don't think it's worth putting American boots on the ground" (my stated position on Ukraine) leads you to believe this feeble attempt at mockery is effective to anyone who hasn't already drunk the Kool-Aid? Or were the words I used too big for you to comprehend?

You've never answered my question, though. The steps we are taking to support Ukraine will undoubtedly lead to higher inflation and higher gas prices here at home. That's money out of your pocket. Are you, personally, willing to bear that cost to support the people in Ukraine who are actually risking their lives? Or are you going to bitch that actually doing something to help others is too inconvenient or distasteful for you, which is exactly what you've done with the COVID vaccine?

I should add, by the way, that over on Facebook I've seen Bored members book Air BnBs in Ukraine. Not because they have any intention whatsoever of using those reservations, but as a quick way of putting money in the hands of Ukrainian families. Would you care to emulate that admirable example? It's a fairly easy way for you to contribute to the war effort. --Bob

One thing I think your virtuous heart is not considering, bob. Higher oil prices affect LOTS of other things. Leading to higher prices for everything made from or that uses oil. Added to the already spiraling inflation we had before Ukraine.

What about the poor, the unfortunate and the already destitute people in this country? Or the people who are just barely making it? Sure, YOU can afford to sacrifice and look down and denigrate others who are not as pure and virtuous as you, with your above-average lawyer salary. But what about them, bob? Have you given any thought to how it affects other people, except where it gives you the opportunity to expound on how you are superior to everyone else?

As a matter of fact I have. I continue to support the now-expired tax break that was part of the American Rescue Plan. It seems like a very good way to help shield the neediest among us from the effects of inflation. And if billionaires have to give back the tax breaks they got in 2017 in order to pay for that support, I'm okay with that too. --Bob

Wow, what an answer! I'm sure you gave that hours of contemplation.

So, in order to get a tax break, these same people who you claim aren't competent enough get an ID to vote with have to file a tax form? And they will get money from a government that's already 30 trillion dollars in debt? And you say it's now expired anyway?
Your support isn't gonna buy them much, is it? But at least they have it. I'm sure they are grateful to you and your virtuous heart.

https://usdebtclock.org/

I think Biden has already spoken for all the billionaire's money with one program or another.

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Then, after scolding Spock for his heartlessness, you announce you're going to Reno to play in a bridge tournament. You really can't make this stuff up.

[Bob78164]

One thing I think your virtuous heart is not considering, bob. Higher oil prices affect LOTS of other things. Leading to higher prices for everything made from or that uses oil. Added to the already spiraling inflation we had before Ukraine.

What about the poor, the unfortunate and the already destitute people in this country? Or the people who are just barely making it? Sure, YOU can afford to sacrifice and look down and denigrate others who are not as pure and virtuous as you, with your above-average lawyer salary. But what about them, bob? Have you given any thought to how it affects other people, except where it gives you the opportunity to expound on how you are superior to everyone else?

As a matter of fact I have. I continue to support the now-expired tax break that was part of the American Rescue Plan. It seems like a very good way to help shield the neediest among us from the effects of inflation. And if billionaires have to give back the tax breaks they got in 2017 in order to pay for that support, I'm okay with that too. --Bob

Wow, what an answer! I'm sure you gave that hours of contemplation.

So, in order to get a tax break, these same people who you claim aren't competent enough get an ID to vote with have to file a tax form? And they will get money from a government that's already 30 trillion dollars in debt? And you say it's now expired anyway?
Your support isn't gonna buy them much, is it? But at least they have it. I'm sure they are grateful to you and your virtuous heart.

https://usdebtclock.org/

I think Biden has already spoken for all the billionaire's money with one program or another.

----
Then, after scolding Spock for his heartlessness, you announce you're going to Reno to play in a bridge tournament. You really can't make this stuff up.

It’s the very same checks they were getting through 2021 so it appears they figured it out. And we can afford the deficit, which isn’t that large compared to the size of our economy. —Bob

[flockofseagulls104]

As a matter of fact I have. I continue to support the now-expired tax break that was part of the American Rescue Plan. It seems like a very good way to help shield the neediest among us from the effects of inflation. And if billionaires have to give back the tax breaks they got in 2017 in order to pay for that support, I'm okay with that too. --Bob

Wow, what an answer! I'm sure you gave that hours of contemplation.

So, in order to get a tax break, these same people who you claim aren't competent enough get an ID to vote with have to file a tax form? And they will get money from a government that's already 30 trillion dollars in debt? And you say it's now expired anyway?
Your support isn't gonna buy them much, is it? But at least they have it. I'm sure they are grateful to you and your virtuous heart.

https://usdebtclock.org/

I think Biden has already spoken for all the billionaire's money with one program or another.

----
Then, after scolding Spock for his heartlessness, you announce you're going to Reno to play in a bridge tournament. You really can't make this stuff up.

It’s the very same checks they were getting through 2021 so it appears they figured it out. And we can afford the deficit, which isn’t that large compared to the size of our economy. —Bob

Right bob, so they are all warm, fuzzy and cozy because you're looking out for them, right? Their taxpayer funded checks will tide them over til Biden gets a hold on the temporary inflation problem.What? Didn't you say they don't get them anymore? At least you still support the idea, so there's that. But damn, it's still so hard for them to get a photo ID.
Bob, when will it be when we can't afford the DEBT? Please give us a little warning time. I know you're an expert and all, but it would be more convincing if you got your terms correct (like they do in THE Ukraine)

[Bob78164]

Wow, what an answer! I'm sure you gave that hours of contemplation.

So, in order to get a tax break, these same people who you claim aren't competent enough get an ID to vote with have to file a tax form? And they will get money from a government that's already 30 trillion dollars in debt? And you say it's now expired anyway?
Your support isn't gonna buy them much, is it? But at least they have it. I'm sure they are grateful to you and your virtuous heart.

https://usdebtclock.org/

I think Biden has already spoken for all the billionaire's money with one program or another.

----
Then, after scolding Spock for his heartlessness, you announce you're going to Reno to play in a bridge tournament. You really can't make this stuff up.

It’s the very same checks they were getting through 2021 so it appears they figured it out. And we can afford the deficit, which isn’t that large compared to the size of our economy. —Bob

Right bob, so they are all warm, fuzzy and cozy because you're looking out for them, right? Their taxpayer funded checks will tide them over til Biden gets a hold on the temporary inflation problem.What? Didn't you say they don't get them anymore? At least you still support the idea, so there's that. But damn, it's still so hard for them to get a photo ID.
Bob, when will it be when we can't afford the DEBT? Please give us a little warning time. I know you're an expert and all, but it would be more convincing if you got your terms correct (like they do in THE Ukraine)

Flock, you ignorant slut, checks can be mailed to the address on the tax form or direct-deposited to the bank account designated on the tax form. Getting a photo ID often requires taking time off work. Particularly when, as happened in Alabama, the Republican state government closes every DMV office in the county.

We can always afford debt denominated in our own currency. I’ll start feeling concerned when long-term bond rates start climbing. That hasn’t happened. —Bob

[flockofseagulls104]

It’s the very same checks they were getting through 2021 so it appears they figured it out. And we can afford the deficit, which isn’t that large compared to the size of our economy. —Bob

Right bob, so they are all warm, fuzzy and cozy because you're looking out for them, right? Their taxpayer funded checks will tide them over til Biden gets a hold on the temporary inflation problem.What? Didn't you say they don't get them anymore? At least you still support the idea, so there's that. But damn, it's still so hard for them to get a photo ID.
Bob, when will it be when we can't afford the DEBT? Please give us a little warning time. I know you're an expert and all, but it would be more convincing if you got your terms correct (like they do in THE Ukraine)

Flock, you ignorant slut, checks can be mailed to the address on the tax form or direct-deposited to the bank account designated on the tax form. Getting a photo ID often requires taking time off work. Particularly when, as happened in Alabama, the Republican state government closes every DMV office in the county.

We can always afford debt denominated in our own currency. I’ll start feeling concerned when long-term bond rates start climbing. That hasn’t happened. —Bob

You must have a whole lot of convolutions in your brain for that kind of convoluted thinking. Someone who can and has to fill out a tax form and can deal with checks and banks cannot possibly get a valid ID? Really bob? I know you never read my post about the flawed 'study' that started and maintains this voter ID fraud. But that is to be expected.

I guess Congress will consult with you, then, as to when it's time to stop spending money they don't have. Since they know you know everything about everything, they don't need to be worried until you are. The hell with anybody who's worried now. What the heck do they know?

But this is all beside the point, (as you well know). I'm just going with the distraction. We all know all the extreme sacrifices you are making. The good people of Ukraine all know it and are profoundly grateful to you. And the people who have to make hard choices about what they can afford, they know you are suffering too.

[tlynn78]

Her Poland performance was ... an interesting choice.

[Estonut]

Are you aware that you just misrepresented the very article you linked? Did you screw up or was it a deliberate lie? Because there’s no middle ground here.

How is it that you imagine so? Please enlighten me.

She slept with her married boss, over twice her age, no Denzel Washington and "Brown did appoint Harris to two political posts in 1994 while he served as Speaker of the California Assembly."

You claimed the link supported your calumny that Vice President Harris got positions for which she wasn't qualified because of her relationship with Brown. It does no such thing. Claiming it does so is a lie.

You claimed that Vice President Harris was "sleeping with the boss." That is a lie. At the time their relationship started, the future Vice President was an assistant district attorney for Alameda County, with no reporting responsibilities whatsoever to then-Speaker Brown.

You claimed that Vice President Harris only got those positions because she was "sleeping with the boss." That is a lie that exposes you as a sexist pig. She got those positions because she is a Hastings-educated lawyer who's damn good at her job and was nonetheless willing to work for a government salary. But it's apparently inconceivable to you that a bright young woman (she was around 30 at the time) could actually deserve the job based on her own merits.

No one even notices when white men get access to job opportunities based on their personal connections. Hell, we expect it and often congratulate them for successfully working the system. Sometimes we even give them titles, like "Ambassador."

Pigs like you, on the other hand, can't seem to help but assume that when it's a woman who gets that access, particularly a woman of color, she couldn't possibly have been qualified for the job based on her own merits. This is emphasized by your claim that Brown was "no Denzel Washington," which clearly states your position that she was in the relationship for transactional reasons. (And I suspect there are plenty of women out there who would have found Brown physically attractive independent of his position.) Believe it or not, you sexist pig, some women don't require movie-star looks.

Why do you care that Brown was married at the time? I suppose you could argue that Brown was behaving poorly toward his wife (although he wasn't, as explained below), but that's got nothing to do with the future Vice President. If there's any blame to be had, it belongs with the married member of the partnership, not the single member.

But there is no blame to be had. As the link points out, although Brown hadn't divorced his then-wife, they'd been separated for about 13 years by the time the future Vice President started dated him. No one made any effort to keep the relationship a secret. So do you think that Brown should have cut off his wife from access to health insurance to satisfy your notions of morality? Or maybe he should have just foregone having a personal life unless she died first.

And before you answer that last question, you should know that one of my sisters did exactly the same thing -- staying married to her estranged husband for approximately a decade so that he could stay on her insurance. She didn't finalize the divorce until she was ready to remarry. --Bob

Are you aware that you just misrepresented the very article you linked? Did you screw up or was it a deliberate lie? Because there’s no middle ground here.

How is it that you imagine so? Please enlighten me.

She slept with her married boss, over twice her age, no Denzel Washington and "Brown did appoint Harris to two political posts in 1994 while he served as Speaker of the California Assembly."

You claimed the link supported your calumny that Vice President Harris got positions for which she wasn't qualified because of her relationship with Brown. It does no such thing. Claiming it does so is a lie.

I claimed no such thing. Claiming I did so is a lie.

You claimed that Vice President Harris was "sleeping with the boss." That is a lie. At the time their relationship started, the future Vice President was an assistant district attorney for Alameda County, with no reporting responsibilities whatsoever to then-Speaker Brown.

That was my mistake. He wasn't her "boss," but he was in a position to give her 2 different appointments.

You claimed that Vice President Harris only got those positions because she was "sleeping with the boss."

I never claimed that. Please cite.

That is a lie that exposes you as a sexist pig. She got those positions because she is a Hastings-educated lawyer who's damn good at her job and was nonetheless willing to work for a government salary. But it's apparently inconceivable to you that a bright young woman (she was around 30 at the time) could actually deserve the job based on her own merits.

No one even notices when white men get access to job opportunities based on their personal connections. Hell, we expect it and often congratulate them for successfully working the system. Sometimes we even give them titles, like "Ambassador."

Pigs like you, on the other hand, can't seem to help but assume that when it's a woman who gets that access, particularly a woman of color, she couldn't possibly have been qualified for the job based on her own merits. This is emphasized by your claim that Brown was "no Denzel Washington," which clearly states your position that she was in the relationship for transactional reasons. (And I suspect there are plenty of women out there who would have found Brown physically attractive independent of his position.) Believe it or not, you sexist pig, some women don't require movie-star looks.

You insufferable douchebag! Quit projecting your feelings and suspicions onto me. You've been spectacularly wrong when making assumptions about me in the past.

Why do you care that Brown was married at the time? I suppose you could argue that Brown was behaving poorly toward his wife (although he wasn't, as explained below), but that's got nothing to do with the future Vice President. If there's any blame to be had, it belongs with the married member of the partnership, not the single member.

But there is no blame to be had. As the link points out, although Brown hadn't divorced his then-wife, they'd been separated for about 13 years by the time the future Vice President started dated him. No one made any effort to keep the relationship a secret. So do you think that Brown should have cut off his wife from access to health insurance to satisfy your notions of morality? Or maybe he should have just foregone having a personal life unless she died first.

Under the law, he was married. She knew it, too. If he was maintaining a sham marriage just for his wife's health insurance, perhaps not dating is a reasonable condition.

And before you answer that last question, you should know that one of my sisters did exactly the same thing -- staying married to her estranged husband for approximately a decade so that he could stay on her insurance. She didn't finalize the divorce until she was ready to remarry.

How altruistic of her. She cheated her insurance company until she met someone new. Unless, of course, she had notified her insurance company of her arrangement and they were OK with it.