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Re: The VP

#26 Post by wbtravis007 » Sat Mar 05, 2022 2:14 pm

tlynn78 wrote:
Sat Mar 05, 2022 10:56 am
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Sat Mar 05, 2022 10:41 am
tlynn78 wrote:
Sat Mar 05, 2022 10:37 am



Lmao! You literally (wrongly) accuse Flock of taking the VP out of context in the same post you reference the former president "recommending people drink bleach." (Psst: that never happened) Do you own a mirror? Does your mind even absorb what you type? Or are you so very wedded to your wrongness and so giddy at the chance to impotently poke at Flock that reality simply doesn't exist for you? That's just so sad. Seriously.
TDS is an actual thing. The stalker, in his response, brings up Trump out of nowhere. He is obsessed. Several people on this bored have TDS, and they actively try and spread it. So keep wearing your masks.
PS: When Trump is not enough, they bring up Fox News. And in the stalker's fully blown case, Sean Hannity. They have an answer for everything, but when everything else fails, it's Trump, Fox news, etc...
Exactly. It's a bit scary, really, the ease with which an entire segment of the population, many of whom are otherwise rational, reasonably intelligent people, (notable exceptions here notwithstanding) so thoroughly allowed themselves to be led.
Had to go back to the "I think the Biden ... " thread to see whether you copied and pasted here my response there to BiT:

BackInTex wrote: ↑Tue Mar 01, 2022 5:27 am
wbtravis007 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 3:15 pm
Bob78164 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 3:04 pm
This analysis seems on the mark to me.

(Footnotes omitted). --Bob
My thoughts, exactly.

BiT said: I would have preferred leadership being successful as a deterrent. We had that for 4 years. But that’s just me.

My response:
No, it’s not just you. There are a lot of others who are seemingly otherwise intelligent who are kind of crazy when it comes to him. You know what they say about love being blind, and what not. And Hilz and stuff.
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Okay, so I see that you didn't. Still, though: Copycat!

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Re: The VP

#27 Post by flockofseagulls104 » Sat Mar 05, 2022 2:39 pm

wbtravis007 wrote:
Sat Mar 05, 2022 2:05 pm
Well, l I haven't listened to this, but I don't think I have to. I'll take y'all's word for it. But, I think I can 'splain:

Okay, so, everybody knows that Biden is close to comatose and that Harris is running everything, using him as her puppet. What people don't know, though, is that Biden is not a willing accomplice in this arrangement. So, they're constantly having to do stuff like this; it's already happened millions of times on all kinds of issues. This one is just the only one that's surfaced. The handlers just have him listen to these things, telling him that it's important for him to keep abreast of her activities. He is able to grasp this level of discussion, and ends up doing exactly what she wants
.
Just like any puppeteer-puppet situation. Yeah ... that's the ticket!

Either that, or she's racist. Or an idiot.

I don't know. I'm not gonna worry my pretty little head about it. Mountain out of a molehill and what not.
Yes, I am funnier than you. I guess.....
(can't tell what this means, so I assume it's an attempt at humor, based on your use of language. I can't hear you speak it, but your use of 'splain and 'that's the ticket' indicates to me that you don't mean it to be taken seriously. If so, you'll have to explain the humor to me.)
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Re: The VP

#28 Post by flockofseagulls104 » Sat Mar 05, 2022 3:38 pm

silverscreenselect wrote:
Sat Mar 05, 2022 1:33 pm
flockofseagulls104 wrote:
Sat Mar 05, 2022 12:10 pm
Please, bored leftists, give us the name of any BB who fits that stereotype.
Flock, look in the mirror. You may not wear the hat, but your thinking process is just as flawed.
Well, well, well.
You had 2 hours to think of a reply to what I said. And this is what you came up with. Another personal attack on me. Just doubling, tripling down on what I said.

The overwhelming evidence shows that you are irrelevant, stalker.

At this point, I will go back to ignoring you. You have nothing to say, but I'm sure you will go on saying it.

I would advise anyone who is reading this to look for the same pattern in others that share the stalker's viewpoint. They may not do it in the same way, but they use the same tactics. They know better than anyone else, and they will cite 'proof' from people of their same viewpoint. They will ignore, defame and denigrate anyone or any evidence that contradicts them and their chosen narrative. They will insult you for just bringing it up. And as a last resort, they will always go back to 'Trump'.
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Re: The VP

#29 Post by silverscreenselect » Sat Mar 05, 2022 3:55 pm

flockofseagulls104 wrote:
Sat Mar 05, 2022 3:38 pm
They know better than anyone else, and they will cite 'proof' from people of their same viewpoint. They will ignore, defame and denigrate anyone or any evidence that contradicts them and their chosen narrative.
The problem is that the "people from the same viewpoint" are the overwhelming majority of credible experts in the field. The "evidence that contradicts them" is embalmers from Alabama and Tucker Carlson.

The evidence of this treatment is the condemnation of Weyoun on this Bored, the one person who has the most in-depth knowledge of matters related to COVID and the most hands-on personal experience dealing with it by far. And who is far from a doctrinaire liberal like the Bobs or myself. You keep trying to draw him into obscure debating points that only you seem to understand.

The "experts" you cite all seem to come from Prager U. or obscure right-wind podcasts and never seem to hold up to any sort of academic or evidential scrutiny. But that doesn't matter to you because whenever challenged, you cover your ears with your hands, make a lot of noise about "leftist propoganda" and retreat contentedly to your ignorance.

You've made a point of saying you don't like or listen to Sean Hannity much, and I'm pretty sure you don't care about "liberal propaganda MSM." So where do you go to get your information about what's going on in the world? I don't expect an answer but I'll give it a try. When Flock is asked embarrassing questions, he tends to ignore them and continue taking his one-man victory laps over the libs.
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Re: The VP

#30 Post by Estonut » Sat Mar 05, 2022 4:15 pm

a1mamacat wrote:
Sat Mar 05, 2022 11:00 am
Estonut wrote:
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kroxquo wrote:
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This is taken out of context. She was asked to explain the Ukraine situation in layman's terms and this was exactly what she did. The clip you posted is just part of a larger answer. I listened to the clip of the 45th President calling Putin a genius and conceded there was some sarcasm there. I ask you to listen to the full clip with a similar open mind. Seriously.

https://twitter.com/daveweigel/status/1 ... 6286196739
I listened to the whole thing and thought she was talking down to "laymen" as if they were elementary schoolers. Do laymen really not know that Ukraine is a country and Russia is a really big country right next to it?

Maybe her only experience with laymen was in getting her first two promotions way back when.
That is a vile thing to say about a successful woman, Esto, truly low.
Are you aware that it's true?

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/kamal ... lie-brown/

I think it's vile to promote her as a role model for women.
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Re: The VP

#31 Post by tlynn78 » Sat Mar 05, 2022 5:10 pm

silverscreenselect wrote:
Sat Mar 05, 2022 3:55 pm
flockofseagulls104 wrote:
Sat Mar 05, 2022 3:38 pm
They know better than anyone else, and they will cite 'proof' from people of their same viewpoint. They will ignore, defame and denigrate anyone or any evidence that contradicts them and their chosen narrative.
The problem is that the "people from the same viewpoint" are the overwhelming majority of credible experts in the field. The "evidence that contradicts them" is embalmers from Alabama and Tucker Carlson.

The evidence of this treatment is the condemnation of Weyoun on this Bored, the one person who has the most in-depth knowledge of matters related to COVID and the most hands-on personal experience dealing with it by far. And who is far from a doctrinaire liberal like the Bobs or myself. You keep trying to draw him into obscure debating points that only you seem to understand.

The "experts" you cite all seem to come from Prager U. or obscure right-wind podcasts and never seem to hold up to any sort of academic or evidential scrutiny. But that doesn't matter to you because whenever challenged, you cover your ears with your hands, make a lot of noise about "leftist propoganda" and retreat contentedly to your ignorance.

You've made a point of saying you don't like or listen to Sean Hannity much, and I'm pretty sure you don't care about "liberal propaganda MSM." So where do you go to get your information about what's going on in the world? I don't expect an answer but I'll give it a try. When Flock is asked embarrassing questions, he tends to ignore them and continue taking his one-man victory laps over the libs.
Your lack of self-awareness is astonishing.
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Re: The VP

#32 Post by Beebs52 » Sat Mar 05, 2022 5:34 pm

tlynn78 wrote:
Sat Mar 05, 2022 5:10 pm
silverscreenselect wrote:
Sat Mar 05, 2022 3:55 pm
flockofseagulls104 wrote:
Sat Mar 05, 2022 3:38 pm
They know better than anyone else, and they will cite 'proof' from people of their same viewpoint. They will ignore, defame and denigrate anyone or any evidence that contradicts them and their chosen narrative.
The problem is that the "people from the same viewpoint" are the overwhelming majority of credible experts in the field. The "evidence that contradicts them" is embalmers from Alabama and Tucker Carlson.

The evidence of this treatment is the condemnation of Weyoun on this Bored, the one person who has the most in-depth knowledge of matters related to COVID and the most hands-on personal experience dealing with it by far. And who is far from a doctrinaire liberal like the Bobs or myself. You keep trying to draw him into obscure debating points that only you seem to understand.

The "experts" you cite all seem to come from Prager U. or obscure right-wind podcasts and never seem to hold up to any sort of academic or evidential scrutiny. But that doesn't matter to you because whenever challenged, you cover your ears with your hands, make a lot of noise about "leftist propoganda" and retreat contentedly to your ignorance.

You've made a point of saying you don't like or listen to Sean Hannity much, and I'm pretty sure you don't care about "liberal propaganda MSM." So where do you go to get your information about what's going on in the world? I don't expect an answer but I'll give it a try. When Flock is asked embarrassing questions, he tends to ignore them and continue taking his one-man victory laps over the libs.
Your lack of self-awareness is astonishing.
Arrogance.
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Re: The VP

#33 Post by Bob78164 » Sat Mar 05, 2022 6:42 pm

silverscreenselect wrote:
Sat Mar 05, 2022 3:55 pm
And who is far from a doctrinaire liberal like the Bobs or myself.
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Re: The VP

#34 Post by Bob78164 » Sat Mar 05, 2022 6:45 pm

Estonut wrote:
Sat Mar 05, 2022 4:15 pm
a1mamacat wrote:
Sat Mar 05, 2022 11:00 am
Estonut wrote:
Sat Mar 05, 2022 8:06 am
I listened to the whole thing and thought she was talking down to "laymen" as if they were elementary schoolers. Do laymen really not know that Ukraine is a country and Russia is a really big country right next to it?

Maybe her only experience with laymen was in getting her first two promotions way back when.
That is a vile thing to say about a successful woman, Esto, truly low.
Are you aware that it's true?

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/kamal ... lie-brown/

I think it's vile to promote her as a role model for women.
Are you aware that you just misrepresented the very article you linked? Did you screw up or was it a deliberate lie? Because there’s no middle ground here. —Bob
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Re: The VP

#35 Post by Beebs52 » Sat Mar 05, 2022 6:52 pm

Bob78164 wrote:
Sat Mar 05, 2022 6:42 pm
silverscreenselect wrote:
Sat Mar 05, 2022 3:55 pm
And who is far from a doctrinaire liberal like the Bobs or myself.
As my colleagues on the Board of the Miracle Mile Democrats can attest, I am not remotely close to being a doctrinaire liberal. It’s just that most of the Board’s conservatives are so far to the right that all Democrats look alike to them. —Bob
The whole accusing your opponent of that which you propound.
Sound like another repeat from other threads?
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Re: The VP

#36 Post by tlynn78 » Sat Mar 05, 2022 8:36 pm

Bob78164 wrote:
Sat Mar 05, 2022 6:45 pm
Estonut wrote:
Sat Mar 05, 2022 4:15 pm
a1mamacat wrote:
Sat Mar 05, 2022 11:00 am
That is a vile thing to say about a successful woman, Esto, truly low.
Are you aware that it's true?

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/kamal ... lie-brown/

I think it's vile to promote her as a role model for women.
Are you aware that you just misrepresented the very article you linked? Did you screw up or was it a deliberate lie? Because there’s no middle ground here. —Bob
Did you screw up, Bob, or deliberately lie about my "explicit" Rosendale support?
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Re: The VP

#37 Post by Bob78164 » Sat Mar 05, 2022 9:18 pm

tlynn78 wrote:
Sat Mar 05, 2022 8:36 pm
Did you screw up, Bob, or deliberately lie about my "explicit" Rosendale support?
Like far too many politicians, you deliberately distorted my statement, and I see no reason to engage with someone who's not acting in good faith.

You voted for him in 2020, right? And you plan to do so again in 2022, right? Or are you saying that you didn't or won't vote for the Republican nominee for that House seat?

Doug Ducey summed up the current state of the Republican Party perfectly. As far as most Republicans, including party leaders, are concerned, even having a white supremacist in office is "better than the Democrat." And that is why the national Republican Party deserves to suffer the same fate it has already suffered in California -- utter political irrelevance. --Bob
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Re: The VP

#38 Post by tlynn78 » Sat Mar 05, 2022 9:33 pm

Bob78164 wrote:
Sat Mar 05, 2022 9:18 pm
tlynn78 wrote:
Sat Mar 05, 2022 8:36 pm
Did you screw up, Bob, or deliberately lie about my "explicit" Rosendale support?
Like far too many politicians, you deliberately distorted my statement, and I see no reason to engage with someone who's not acting in good faith.

You voted for him in 2020, right? And you plan to do so again in 2022, right? Or are you saying that you didn't or won't vote for the Republican nominee for that House seat? --Bob

Sure I voted for him, Bob, a long, long time before his Ukraine vote. He was the Republican nominee, and I'm a Republican. Do you even lawyer? I mean, seriously? I distorted nothing. Your direct quote was a complete fabrication, and anyone here who can read knows it. You and your other pigeon buddies here are exactly what you accuse others of being, and you're far too deeply enmeshed in your wrongness to see it. Just sad.
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Re: The VP

#39 Post by flockofseagulls104 » Sat Mar 05, 2022 10:37 pm

tlynn78 wrote:
Sat Mar 05, 2022 5:10 pm
silverscreenselect wrote:
Sat Mar 05, 2022 3:55 pm
flockofseagulls104 wrote:
Sat Mar 05, 2022 3:38 pm
They know better than anyone else, and they will cite 'proof' from people of their same viewpoint. They will ignore, defame and denigrate anyone or any evidence that contradicts them and their chosen narrative.
The problem is that the "people from the same viewpoint" are the overwhelming majority of credible experts in the field. The "evidence that contradicts them" is embalmers from Alabama and Tucker Carlson.

The evidence of this treatment is the condemnation of Weyoun on this Bored, the one person who has the most in-depth knowledge of matters related to COVID and the most hands-on personal experience dealing with it by far. And who is far from a doctrinaire liberal like the Bobs or myself. You keep trying to draw him into obscure debating points that only you seem to understand.

The "experts" you cite all seem to come from Prager U. or obscure right-wind podcasts and never seem to hold up to any sort of academic or evidential scrutiny. But that doesn't matter to you because whenever challenged, you cover your ears with your hands, make a lot of noise about "leftist propoganda" and retreat contentedly to your ignorance.

You've made a point of saying you don't like or listen to Sean Hannity much, and I'm pretty sure you don't care about "liberal propaganda MSM." So where do you go to get your information about what's going on in the world? I don't expect an answer but I'll give it a try. When Flock is asked embarrassing questions, he tends to ignore them and continue taking his one-man victory laps over the libs.
Your lack of self-awareness is astonishing.
Oh boy, I get to see another of the stalker's trolls

You didn't absorb one thing, and decided to quadruple down on your bullshit.

I get my information about what's going on in the world from the same places you do. No one can escape it even if they want to. I know what's going on in the world as much as you do. But I have enough awareness and justified cynicism that I question things and try and seek out ALL perspectives of an issue before I decide for myself what to think. And I have enough self-awareness to know that there might be, and probably are, things I don't know.

Everything that you are attributing to me in the personal attack that you posted above applies a LOT more to you than it does to me. Your test results from this thread, and your subsequent trolling, which does nothing but add confirmation, provide overwhelming evidence of that.

And you still don't get what I am asking weyoun for. Show me ONE, just ONE time I questioned in ANY WAY dr. weyoun's medical knowledge. All of you (because you are a mob and try and answer and distract from him and for him, when I have repeatedly told you I am asking him directly) keep going back to that when it is not anywhere near the point. What I want from him is his explanation of exactly the same bigotry and arrogance that you show every time you post on this bored. He has, for weeks now, avoided, distracted, and denigrated me and others to avoid directly answering my questions. And I question how that OBVIOUS bigotry (unless he has some sort of excuse for it) affects his medical judgments. And I am not at all surprised that you don't understand it, because you don't recognize it in yourself.
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Re: The VP

#40 Post by flockofseagulls104 » Sat Mar 05, 2022 11:59 pm

Bob78164 wrote:
Sat Mar 05, 2022 6:42 pm
silverscreenselect wrote:
Sat Mar 05, 2022 3:55 pm
And who is far from a doctrinaire liberal like the Bobs or myself.
As my colleagues on the Board of the Miracle Mile Democrats can attest, I am not remotely close to being a doctrinaire liberal. It’s just that most of the Board’s conservatives are so far to the right that all Democrats look alike to them. —Bob
Ok, you are not a doctrinaire liberal, whatever that means. So if you are to the right of a doctrinaire liberal, and you promote one-party rule for your state, driving any other viewpoint into irrelevancy, what do doctrinaire liberals promote? Lining all the other parties up against the wall and shooting them?
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Re: The VP

#41 Post by silverscreenselect » Sun Mar 06, 2022 2:04 am

flockofseagulls104 wrote:
Sat Mar 05, 2022 10:37 pm
I get my information about what's going on in the world from the same places you do. No one can escape it even if they want to. I know what's going on in the world as much as you do. But I have enough awareness and justified cynicism that I question things and try and seek out ALL perspectives of an issue before I decide for myself what to think.
You may seek out all perspectives on an issue (although you claim you don't pay attention to the MSM), but your "justified cynicism," which most might call blind right-wing bias, always leads you to the same place.

You gloat over "proving" that Trump was sarcastic in one statement about Putin and ignore the dozens of other times he heaped praise on Putin. Including the statement about "$2 worth of sanctions." You may not like Sean Hannity, but you seem to invariably like or parrot what he has to say. You're trapped in a fishbowl of right wing thought. You also harp on Weyoun about providing you a definition of anti-vaxxer, which has absolutely no relevance to any facts about COVID or vaccines.

Unlike you, I do research issues (beyond Prager University and an embalmer from Alabama). And I post links to the sources I find, again unlike you. I worked for several years as a writer and editor for insurance texts. My job was to learn the facts and research and get independent verification before something went into the textbooks. So I'd be willing to stack up my research and analysis skills against yours any day.
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Re: The VP

#42 Post by Estonut » Sun Mar 06, 2022 2:59 am

Bob78164 wrote:
Sat Mar 05, 2022 6:45 pm
Estonut wrote:
Sat Mar 05, 2022 4:15 pm
a1mamacat wrote:
Sat Mar 05, 2022 11:00 am
That is a vile thing to say about a successful woman, Esto, truly low.
Are you aware that it's true?

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/kamal ... lie-brown/

I think it's vile to promote her as a role model for women.
Are you aware that you just misrepresented the very article you linked? Did you screw up or was it a deliberate lie? Because there’s no middle ground here.
How is it that you imagine so? Please enlighten me.

She slept with her married boss, over twice her age, no Denzel Washington and "Brown did appoint Harris to two political posts in 1994 while he served as Speaker of the California Assembly."
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Re: The VP

#43 Post by Bob Juch » Sun Mar 06, 2022 8:58 am

Estonut wrote:
Sun Mar 06, 2022 2:59 am
Bob78164 wrote:
Sat Mar 05, 2022 6:45 pm
Estonut wrote:
Sat Mar 05, 2022 4:15 pm
Are you aware that it's true?

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/kamal ... lie-brown/

I think it's vile to promote her as a role model for women.
Are you aware that you just misrepresented the very article you linked? Did you screw up or was it a deliberate lie? Because there’s no middle ground here.
How is it that you imagine so? Please enlighten me.

She slept with her married boss, over twice her age, no Denzel Washington and "Brown did appoint Harris to two political posts in 1994 while he served as Speaker of the California Assembly."
You apparently don't comprehend: Although Brown was technically still married during the time period that he dated Harris, he had been estranged from his wife Blanche Brown for more than a decade.
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Re: The VP

#44 Post by Bob78164 » Sun Mar 06, 2022 12:49 pm

Estonut wrote:
Sun Mar 06, 2022 2:59 am
Bob78164 wrote:
Sat Mar 05, 2022 6:45 pm
Estonut wrote:
Sat Mar 05, 2022 4:15 pm
Are you aware that it's true?

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/kamal ... lie-brown/

I think it's vile to promote her as a role model for women.
Are you aware that you just misrepresented the very article you linked? Did you screw up or was it a deliberate lie? Because there’s no middle ground here.
How is it that you imagine so? Please enlighten me.

She slept with her married boss, over twice her age, no Denzel Washington and "Brown did appoint Harris to two political posts in 1994 while he served as Speaker of the California Assembly."
You claimed the link supported your calumny that Vice President Harris got positions for which she wasn't qualified because of her relationship with Brown. It does no such thing. Claiming it does so is a lie.

You claimed that Vice President Harris was "sleeping with the boss." That is a lie. At the time their relationship started, the future Vice President was an assistant district attorney for Alameda County, with no reporting responsibilities whatsoever to then-Speaker Brown.

You claimed that Vice President Harris only got those positions because she was "sleeping with the boss." That is a lie that exposes you as a sexist pig. She got those positions because she is a Hastings-educated lawyer who's damn good at her job and was nonetheless willing to work for a government salary. But it's apparently inconceivable to you that a bright young woman (she was around 30 at the time) could actually deserve the job based on her own merits.

No one even notices when white men get access to job opportunities based on their personal connections. Hell, we expect it and often congratulate them for successfully working the system. Sometimes we even give them titles, like "Ambassador."

Pigs like you, on the other hand, can't seem to help but assume that when it's a woman who gets that access, particularly a woman of color, she couldn't possibly have been qualified for the job based on her own merits. This is emphasized by your claim that Brown was "no Denzel Washington," which clearly states your position that she was in the relationship for transactional reasons. (And I suspect there are plenty of women out there who would have found Brown physically attractive independent of his position.) Believe it or not, you sexist pig, some women don't require movie-star looks.

Why do you care that Brown was married at the time? I suppose you could argue that Brown was behaving poorly toward his wife (although he wasn't, as explained below), but that's got nothing to do with the future Vice President. If there's any blame to be had, it belongs with the married member of the partnership, not the single member.

But there is no blame to be had. As the link points out, although Brown hadn't divorced his then-wife, they'd been separated for about 13 years by the time the future Vice President started dated him. No one made any effort to keep the relationship a secret. So do you think that Brown should have cut off his wife from access to health insurance to satisfy your notions of morality? Or maybe he should have just foregone having a personal life unless she died first.

And before you answer that last question, you should know that one of my sisters did exactly the same thing -- staying married to her estranged husband for approximately a decade so that he could stay on her insurance. She didn't finalize the divorce until she was ready to remarry. --Bob
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Re: The VP

#45 Post by Estonut » Mon Mar 07, 2022 6:27 am

Bob Juch wrote:
Sun Mar 06, 2022 8:58 am
Estonut wrote:
Sun Mar 06, 2022 2:59 am
Bob78164 wrote:
Sat Mar 05, 2022 6:45 pm
Are you aware that you just misrepresented the very article you linked? Did you screw up or was it a deliberate lie? Because there’s no middle ground here.
How is it that you imagine so? Please enlighten me.

She slept with her married boss, over twice her age, no Denzel Washington and "Brown did appoint Harris to two political posts in 1994 while he served as Speaker of the California Assembly."
You apparently don't comprehend: Although Brown was technically still married during the time period that he dated Harris, he had been estranged from his wife Blanche Brown for more than a decade.
I comprehend that technically still married is married. Is that not true?
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Re: The VP

#46 Post by tlynn78 » Mon Mar 07, 2022 8:23 am

Estonut wrote:
Mon Mar 07, 2022 6:27 am
Bob Juch wrote:
Sun Mar 06, 2022 8:58 am
Estonut wrote:
Sun Mar 06, 2022 2:59 am
How is it that you imagine so? Please enlighten me.

She slept with her married boss, over twice her age, no Denzel Washington and "Brown did appoint Harris to two political posts in 1994 while he served as Speaker of the California Assembly."
You apparently don't comprehend: Although Brown was technically still married during the time period that he dated Harris, he had been estranged from his wife Blanche Brown for more than a decade.
I comprehend that technically still married is married. Is that not true?
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Re: The VP

#47 Post by flockofseagulls104 » Mon Mar 07, 2022 9:50 am

Well the distractor certainly is working, isn't it?
It would be nice if the main message of this thread went back to the Stalker being shown for what he is.
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Re: The VP

#48 Post by silverscreenselect » Mon Mar 07, 2022 9:59 am

flockofseagulls104 wrote:
Mon Mar 07, 2022 9:50 am
Well the distractor certainly is working, isn't it?
It would be nice if the main message of this thread went back to the Stalker being shown for what he is.
For someone who claims he ignores me, Flock sure obsesses over me a lot. And the farther along he goes, the more ridiculous and incoherent he gets.
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Re: The VP

#49 Post by BackInTex » Mon Mar 07, 2022 10:30 am

silverscreenselect wrote:
Mon Mar 07, 2022 9:59 am
flockofseagulls104 wrote:
Mon Mar 07, 2022 9:50 am
Well the distractor certainly is working, isn't it?
It would be nice if the main message of this thread went back to the Stalker being shown for what he is.
For someone who claims he ignores me, Flock sure obsesses over me a lot. And the farther along he goes, the more ridiculous and incoherent he gets.
I think you two need to go get a room.
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Re: The VP

#50 Post by flockofseagulls104 » Mon Mar 07, 2022 10:47 am

BackInTex wrote:
Mon Mar 07, 2022 10:30 am
silverscreenselect wrote:
Mon Mar 07, 2022 9:59 am
flockofseagulls104 wrote:
Mon Mar 07, 2022 9:50 am
Well the distractor certainly is working, isn't it?
It would be nice if the main message of this thread went back to the Stalker being shown for what he is.
For someone who claims he ignores me, Flock sure obsesses over me a lot. And the farther along he goes, the more ridiculous and incoherent he gets.
I think you two need to go get a room.
I think the stalker needs to get a life.
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