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I am not making this up.
The former head of President Bush's Council on Bioethics believes- fervently- that eating an ice cream cone in public is an affront to human dignity.
Here's the excerpt from the council's report, written by Leon Kass:
"Worst of all from this point of view are those more uncivilized forms of eating, like licking an ice cream cone--a catlike activity that has been made acceptable in informal America but that still offends those who know eating in public is offensive. ... Eating on the street--even when undertaken, say, because one is between appointments and has no other time to eat--displays [a] lack of self-control: It beckons enslavement to the belly. ... Lacking utensils for cutting and lifting to mouth, he will often be seen using his teeth for tearing off chewable portions, just like any animal. ... This doglike feeding, if one must engage in it, ought to be kept from public view, where, even if we feel no shame, others are compelled to witness our shameful behavior."
Now, I'll grant you there are plenty of people who would be better off if they took a pass on dessert, but don't bioethicists have better things to do than shoot the tires of Good Humor trucks?
Here's the excerpt from the council's report, written by Leon Kass:
"Worst of all from this point of view are those more uncivilized forms of eating, like licking an ice cream cone--a catlike activity that has been made acceptable in informal America but that still offends those who know eating in public is offensive. ... Eating on the street--even when undertaken, say, because one is between appointments and has no other time to eat--displays [a] lack of self-control: It beckons enslavement to the belly. ... Lacking utensils for cutting and lifting to mouth, he will often be seen using his teeth for tearing off chewable portions, just like any animal. ... This doglike feeding, if one must engage in it, ought to be kept from public view, where, even if we feel no shame, others are compelled to witness our shameful behavior."
Now, I'll grant you there are plenty of people who would be better off if they took a pass on dessert, but don't bioethicists have better things to do than shoot the tires of Good Humor trucks?
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Re: I am not making this up.
I'd almost be willing to bet money this is an urban legned. An a legend also.nitrah55 wrote:The former head of President Bush's Council on Bioethics believes- fervently- that eating an ice cream cone in public is an affront to human dignity.
Here's the excerpt from the council's report, written by Leon Kass:
"Worst of all from this point of view are those more uncivilized forms of eating, like licking an ice cream cone--a catlike activity that has been made acceptable in informal America but that still offends those who know eating in public is offensive. ... Eating on the street--even when undertaken, say, because one is between appointments and has no other time to eat--displays [a] lack of self-control: It beckons enslavement to the belly. ... Lacking utensils for cutting and lifting to mouth, he will often be seen using his teeth for tearing off chewable portions, just like any animal. ... This doglike feeding, if one must engage in it, ought to be kept from public view, where, even if we feel no shame, others are compelled to witness our shameful behavior."
Now, I'll grant you there are plenty of people who would be better off if they took a pass on dessert, but don't bioethicists have better things to do than shoot the tires of Good Humor trucks?
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Re: I am not making this up.
I think the damn rappers are to blame.nitrah55 wrote:The former head of President Bush's Council on Bioethics believes- fervently- that eating an ice cream cone in public is an affront to human dignity.
Here's the excerpt from the council's report, written by Leon Kass:
"Worst of all from this point of view are those more uncivilized forms of eating, like licking an ice cream cone--a catlike activity that has been made acceptable in informal America but that still offends those who know eating in public is offensive. ... Eating on the street--even when undertaken, say, because one is between appointments and has no other time to eat--displays [a] lack of self-control: It beckons enslavement to the belly. ... Lacking utensils for cutting and lifting to mouth, he will often be seen using his teeth for tearing off chewable portions, just like any animal. ... This doglike feeding, if one must engage in it, ought to be kept from public view, where, even if we feel no shame, others are compelled to witness our shameful behavior."
Now, I'll grant you there are plenty of people who would be better off if they took a pass on dessert, but don't bioethicists have better things to do than shoot the tires of Good Humor trucks?
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Re: I am not making this up.
more context hereetaoin22 wrote:I'd almost be willing to bet money this is an urban legned. An a legend also.nitrah55 wrote:The former head of President Bush's Council on Bioethics believes- fervently- that eating an ice cream cone in public is an affront to human dignity.
Here's the excerpt from the council's report, written by Leon Kass:
"Worst of all from this point of view are those more uncivilized forms of eating, like licking an ice cream cone--a catlike activity that has been made acceptable in informal America but that still offends those who know eating in public is offensive. ... Eating on the street--even when undertaken, say, because one is between appointments and has no other time to eat--displays [a] lack of self-control: It beckons enslavement to the belly. ... Lacking utensils for cutting and lifting to mouth, he will often be seen using his teeth for tearing off chewable portions, just like any animal. ... This doglike feeding, if one must engage in it, ought to be kept from public view, where, even if we feel no shame, others are compelled to witness our shameful behavior."
Now, I'll grant you there are plenty of people who would be better off if they took a pass on dessert, but don't bioethicists have better things to do than shoot the tires of Good Humor trucks?
Suitguy is not bitter.
feels he represents the many educated and rational onlookers who believe that the hysterical denouncement of lay scepticism is both unwarranted and counter-productive
The problem, then, is that such calls do not address an opposition audience so much as they signal virtue. They talk past those who need convincing. They ignore actual facts and counterargument. And they are irreparably smug.
feels he represents the many educated and rational onlookers who believe that the hysterical denouncement of lay scepticism is both unwarranted and counter-productive
The problem, then, is that such calls do not address an opposition audience so much as they signal virtue. They talk past those who need convincing. They ignore actual facts and counterargument. And they are irreparably smug.
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Re: I am not making this up.
I hope he hasn't reproduced.nitrah55 wrote:The former head of President Bush's Council on Bioethics believes- fervently- that eating an ice cream cone in public is an affront to human dignity.
Here's the excerpt from the council's report, written by Leon Kass:
"Worst of all from this point of view are those more uncivilized forms of eating, like licking an ice cream cone--a catlike activity that has been made acceptable in informal America but that still offends those who know eating in public is offensive. ... Eating on the street--even when undertaken, say, because one is between appointments and has no other time to eat--displays [a] lack of self-control: It beckons enslavement to the belly. ... Lacking utensils for cutting and lifting to mouth, he will often be seen using his teeth for tearing off chewable portions, just like any animal. ... This doglike feeding, if one must engage in it, ought to be kept from public view, where, even if we feel no shame, others are compelled to witness our shameful behavior."
Now, I'll grant you there are plenty of people who would be better off if they took a pass on dessert, but don't bioethicists have better things to do than shoot the tires of Good Humor trucks?
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Re: I am not making this up.
Reading SuitDude's reference made me think of Ear's remark about eating in public.themanintheseersuckersuit wrote:more context hereetaoin22 wrote:I'd almost be willing to bet money this is an urban legned. An a legend also.nitrah55 wrote:The former head of President Bush's Council on Bioethics believes- fervently- that eating an ice cream cone in public is an affront to human dignity.
Here's the excerpt from the council's report, written by Leon Kass:
"Worst of all from this point of view are those more uncivilized forms of eating, like licking an ice cream cone--a catlike activity that has been made acceptable in informal America but that still offends those who know eating in public is offensive. ... Eating on the street--even when undertaken, say, because one is between appointments and has no other time to eat--displays [a] lack of self-control: It beckons enslavement to the belly. ... Lacking utensils for cutting and lifting to mouth, he will often be seen using his teeth for tearing off chewable portions, just like any animal. ... This doglike feeding, if one must engage in it, ought to be kept from public view, where, even if we feel no shame, others are compelled to witness our shameful behavior."
Now, I'll grant you there are plenty of people who would be better off if they took a pass on dessert, but don't bioethicists have better things to do than shoot the tires of Good Humor trucks?
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Re: I am not making this up.
All you have to do is Google bioethics and ice cream:etaoin22 wrote:I'd almost be willing to bet money this is an urban legned. An a legend also.nitrah55 wrote:The former head of President Bush's Council on Bioethics believes- fervently- that eating an ice cream cone in public is an affront to human dignity.
Here's the excerpt from the council's report, written by Leon Kass:
"Worst of all from this point of view are those more uncivilized forms of eating, like licking an ice cream cone--a catlike activity that has been made acceptable in informal America but that still offends those who know eating in public is offensive. ... Eating on the street--even when undertaken, say, because one is between appointments and has no other time to eat--displays [a] lack of self-control: It beckons enslavement to the belly. ... Lacking utensils for cutting and lifting to mouth, he will often be seen using his teeth for tearing off chewable portions, just like any animal. ... This doglike feeding, if one must engage in it, ought to be kept from public view, where, even if we feel no shame, others are compelled to witness our shameful behavior."
Now, I'll grant you there are plenty of people who would be better off if they took a pass on dessert, but don't bioethicists have better things to do than shoot the tires of Good Humor trucks?
http://www.tnr.com/story_print.html?id= ... 059cd0bfbd
I am about 25% sure of this.
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Re: I am not making this up.
What link/citation did you use for this, nitrah? [Wow! That was a fast reply!nitrah55 wrote: Here's the excerpt from the council's report, written by Leon Kass:

Wikipedia says the quote is from The Hungry Soul, pp. 148-149. University of Chicago Press, 1994, 1999 but the footnoted link to a transcript of NOW with Bill Moyers doesn't seem to apply.
The full title of that book BTW, is The Hungry Soul: Eating and the Perfecting of Our Nature
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Let me know if you need some help.peacock2121 wrote:Maybe I'll go do it without a baby.minimetoo26 wrote:People like this make the Taliban seem rational. Shameful behavior?
If I still had a baby, I'd go nurse it on his front lawn. Loser.
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If he doesn't, I would.peacock2121 wrote:Sometimes I make what some call 'sex noises' when I am enjoying an ice cream cone.
Bet he'd really love that.
I would, even if he does.
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The quote is authentic.
You can read the cited page full-text on Google Book Search.
He does excuse eating in public at festival, picnic areas, and outdoor restaurants but he also says that you should not watch other people eat.
Kass quotes the Talmud as saying, "Whoever eats in the street or at any public place acts like a dog. " -- (Kiddushin 40b).
I've looked at a couple of translations and this seems to mostly be a section which is about disqualifying someone as a witness. And at least some of it has to do with grabbing the food in the street and eating it.
You can read the cited page full-text on Google Book Search.
He does excuse eating in public at festival, picnic areas, and outdoor restaurants but he also says that you should not watch other people eat.
Kass quotes the Talmud as saying, "Whoever eats in the street or at any public place acts like a dog. " -- (Kiddushin 40b).
I've looked at a couple of translations and this seems to mostly be a section which is about disqualifying someone as a witness. And at least some of it has to do with grabbing the food in the street and eating it.
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Re: I am not making this up.
Now, why would you go and bring context into a good bashing job?themanintheseersuckersuit wrote:more context here
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