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#1 Post by Beebs52 » Thu Jan 12, 2023 3:59 pm

I actually think this may be a dem payout to someone, who is obviously batshit crazy. Voters should be able to rely on at least 50 percent of a candidate's background...
He could be impeached or indicted or...
Would his removal change the house makeup that much?
Well, then

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Re: Santos

#2 Post by Bob78164 » Thu Jan 12, 2023 4:09 pm

Beebs52 wrote:
Thu Jan 12, 2023 3:59 pm
I actually think this may be a dem payout to someone, who is obviously batshit crazy. Voters should be able to rely on at least 50 percent of a candidate's background...
He could be impeached or indicted or...
Would his removal change the house makeup that much?
He could be expelled, but that requires a 2/3 vote of the House. I don't think that will happen unless he's actually convicted of a crime. I was happy to see that several elected Republican officials called on him to resign. It gives me hope that the Republican Party as an institution is starting to reclaim some sense of right and wrong.

The House currently has 222 Republicans and 212 Democrats, with one vacancy to be filled next month in what is widely believed to be a safe Democratic seat. Assuming that's the case, if Santos leaves office, the House would be down to 221 Republicans and 213 Democrats. The seat Santos won is very much a swing seat -- if anything, the Democratic nominee would probably be favored. --Bob
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#3 Post by Beebs52 » Thu Jan 12, 2023 4:51 pm

I noticed you avoided my dem statement.
Well, then

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#4 Post by tlynn78 » Thu Jan 12, 2023 5:19 pm

Beebs52 wrote:
Thu Jan 12, 2023 4:51 pm
I noticed you avoided my dem statement.
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Re: Santos

#5 Post by Bob78164 » Thu Jan 12, 2023 6:21 pm

Beebs52 wrote:
Thu Jan 12, 2023 4:51 pm
I noticed you avoided my dem statement.
Wait. You meant that seriously? I thought you were joking.

No, Democrats were favored to win that seat, and Santos apparently worked the local Republican Party (telling his lies along the way) to get their endorsement. Santos is not a Democratic plant. --Bob
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#6 Post by Beebs52 » Thu Jan 12, 2023 6:32 pm

I dunno
Well, then

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#7 Post by a1mamacat » Thu Jan 12, 2023 7:33 pm

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I dunno
I thought you were joking too. I mean really, a plant would be much more subtle, sabotaging quietly, away from the limelight.
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Re: Santos

#8 Post by Beebs52 » Thu Jan 12, 2023 7:43 pm

a1mamacat wrote:
Thu Jan 12, 2023 7:33 pm
Beebs52 wrote:
Thu Jan 12, 2023 6:32 pm
I dunno
I thought you were joking too. I mean really, a plant would be much more subtle, sabotaging quietly, away from the limelight.
But he'll be gone for sure. He's a nutball.
Well, then

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#9 Post by Bob Juch » Thu Jan 12, 2023 9:20 pm

Beebs52 wrote:
Thu Jan 12, 2023 3:59 pm
Would his removal change the house makeup that much?
No, most of the others are just as crazy.
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#10 Post by jarnon » Thu Jan 12, 2023 10:01 pm

Beebs52 wrote:
Thu Jan 12, 2023 7:43 pm
But he'll be gone for sure. He's a nutball.
He'll probably stay till the next election like Madison Cawthorn.
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#11 Post by BackInTex » Thu Jan 12, 2023 10:28 pm

Bob78164 wrote:
Thu Jan 12, 2023 4:09 pm
It gives me hope that the Republican Party as an institution is starting to reclaim some sense of right and wrong.
Because it puts the Democrats in an advantageous position being the only ones with no sense of right and wrong.
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#12 Post by Weyoun » Fri Jan 13, 2023 6:05 am

Again, if he was some Dem plant, this would’ve been revealed in October, not last month.

The reality is, the local party screwed up

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#13 Post by Bob Juch » Fri Jan 13, 2023 9:21 am

BackInTex wrote:
Thu Jan 12, 2023 10:28 pm
Bob78164 wrote:
Thu Jan 12, 2023 4:09 pm
It gives me hope that the Republican Party as an institution is starting to reclaim some sense of right and wrong.
Because it puts the Democrats in an advantageous position being the only ones with no sense of right and wrong.
Ask Al Franken about that.

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Re: Santos

#14 Post by BackInTex » Fri Jan 13, 2023 9:30 am

Bob Juch wrote:
Fri Jan 13, 2023 9:21 am
BackInTex wrote:
Thu Jan 12, 2023 10:28 pm
Bob78164 wrote:
Thu Jan 12, 2023 4:09 pm
It gives me hope that the Republican Party as an institution is starting to reclaim some sense of right and wrong.
Because it puts the Democrats in an advantageous position being the only ones with no sense of right and wrong.
Ask Al Franken about that.

We have a great sense of right and wrong; that's why we hate TFG.
Let me rephrase. A great sense of right and wrong, but don't care as long as they stay in power. And use the right's sense of morality against them whenever possible.

Harry Reid, when asked about his false McCarthyite acusations about Mitt Romney, “Well, they can call it whatever they want,” Reid said. “Romney didn’t win, did he?”. Pretty much the attitudeof the entire Democrat Party, and most of its supporters. Including you.
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#15 Post by Bob Juch » Fri Jan 13, 2023 9:32 am

BackInTex wrote:
Fri Jan 13, 2023 9:30 am
Bob Juch wrote:
Fri Jan 13, 2023 9:21 am
BackInTex wrote:
Thu Jan 12, 2023 10:28 pm


Because it puts the Democrats in an advantageous position being the only ones with no sense of right and wrong.
Ask Al Franken about that.

We have a great sense of right and wrong; that's why we hate TFG.
Let me rephrase. A great sense of right and wrong, but don't care as long as they stay in power. And use the right's sense of morality against them whenever possible.

Harry Reid, when asked about his false McCarthyite acusations about Mitt Romney, “Well, they can call it whatever they want,” Reid said. “Romney didn’t win, did he?”. Pretty much the attitudeof the entire Democrat Party, and most of its supporters. Including you.
"The right's sense of morality." Where would I find that?
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#16 Post by BackInTex » Fri Jan 13, 2023 9:35 am

Bob Juch wrote:
Fri Jan 13, 2023 9:32 am
BackInTex wrote:
Fri Jan 13, 2023 9:30 am
Bob Juch wrote:
Fri Jan 13, 2023 9:21 am


Ask Al Franken about that.

We have a great sense of right and wrong; that's why we hate TFG.
Let me rephrase. A great sense of right and wrong, but don't care as long as they stay in power. And use the right's sense of morality against them whenever possible.

Harry Reid, when asked about his false McCarthyite acusations about Mitt Romney, “Well, they can call it whatever they want,” Reid said. “Romney didn’t win, did he?”. Pretty much the attitudeof the entire Democrat Party, and most of its supporters. Including you.
"The right's sense of morality." Where would I find that?
Doubt you would acknowlege if it was right in front of you.
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#17 Post by Weyoun » Tue Jan 17, 2023 9:52 am

Turns out Santos has ties to a Russian oligarch. Wild to think that an unqualified very junior House Republican might have ties to Russia!

The Republicans will never be a credible America-first party while these pro-Russian snakes (like Spock) are members.

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#18 Post by BackInTex » Tue Jan 17, 2023 10:24 am

Weyoun wrote:
Tue Jan 17, 2023 9:52 am
Turns out Santos has ties to a Russian oligarch. Wild to think that an unqualified very junior House Republican might have ties to Russia!

The Republicans will never be a credible America-first party while these pro-Russian snakes (like Spock) are members.
So he's channeling Hunter Biden? Seems he wants to be a Democrat. He's make a good one.
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#19 Post by tlynn78 » Tue Jan 17, 2023 12:19 pm

Weyoun wrote:
Tue Jan 17, 2023 9:52 am
Turns out Santos has ties to a Russian oligarch. Wild to think that an unqualified very junior House Republican might have ties to Russia!

The Republicans will never be a credible America-first party while these pro-Russian snakes (like Spock) are members.
Well, thank God we have you and Bobbo to tell us what's credible. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Santos

#20 Post by Weyoun » Tue Jan 17, 2023 1:04 pm

BackInTex wrote:
Tue Jan 17, 2023 10:24 am
Weyoun wrote:
Tue Jan 17, 2023 9:52 am
Turns out Santos has ties to a Russian oligarch. Wild to think that an unqualified very junior House Republican might have ties to Russia!

The Republicans will never be a credible America-first party while these pro-Russian snakes (like Spock) are members.
So he's channeling Hunter Biden? Seems he wants to be a Democrat. He's make a good one.
Yet he’s a Republican.

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#21 Post by Bob Juch » Wed Jan 18, 2023 10:12 am

Navy veteran Richard Osthoff battled PTSD for years with the help of his devoted pit mix Sapphire. When she developed a stomach tumor, Osthoff reached out to Santos' "vet charity," not knowing that the whole thing was a scam. Santos set up a GoFundMe to pay for the scam, raised $3,000, closed the fundraiser and vanished with the money. Osthoff's beloved Sapphire passed away without surgery and the veteran, who was out of work with a broken leg, had to panhandle to pay for her cremation, saying "it was one of the most degrading things I ever had to do."
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#22 Post by Weyoun » Wed Jan 18, 2023 4:17 pm

Bob Juch wrote:
Wed Jan 18, 2023 10:12 am
Navy veteran Richard Osthoff battled PTSD for years with the help of his devoted pit mix Sapphire. When she developed a stomach tumor, Osthoff reached out to Santos' "vet charity," not knowing that the whole thing was a scam. Santos set up a GoFundMe to pay for the scam, raised $3,000, closed the fundraiser and vanished with the money. Osthoff's beloved Sapphire passed away without surgery and the veteran, who was out of work with a broken leg, had to panhandle to pay for her cremation, saying "it was one of the most degrading things I ever had to do."
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#23 Post by silverscreenselect » Wed Jan 18, 2023 11:14 pm

Weyoun wrote:
Wed Jan 18, 2023 4:17 pm
Bob Juch wrote:
Wed Jan 18, 2023 10:12 am
Navy veteran Richard Osthoff battled PTSD for years with the help of his devoted pit mix Sapphire. When she developed a stomach tumor, Osthoff reached out to Santos' "vet charity," not knowing that the whole thing was a scam. Santos set up a GoFundMe to pay for the scam, raised $3,000, closed the fundraiser and vanished with the money. Osthoff's beloved Sapphire passed away without surgery and the veteran, who was out of work with a broken leg, had to panhandle to pay for her cremation, saying "it was one of the most degrading things I ever had to do."
Derp, Hunter Biden.
I think this is the incident that sinks Santos. His large scale financial fraud probably won't register with a lot of people who think that "everybody does it." But taking money that was meant to pay for a veteran's ailing support dog's surgery goes too far for most people.
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