We've never had absolute freedom in this country, especially in matters of health and safety. Hundreds of drugs have been pulled from the market or banned in the first place. Try finding thalidomide anywhere. And every state requires certain vaccines for children and in some cases for certain adults. And almost every state requires people to use safety belts and many require motorcycle helmets.
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Thalidomide is still available; it's prescribed for certain diseases, such as multiple myeloma, just not to pregnant women.silverscreenselect wrote: ↑Thu Feb 17, 2022 10:31 amWe've never had absolute freedom in this country, especially in matters of health and safety. Hundreds of drugs have been pulled from the market or banned in the first place. Try finding thalidomide anywhere. And every state requires certain vaccines for children and in some cases for certain adults. And almost every state requires people to use safety belts and many require motorcycle helmets.
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The Senate on Tuesday narrowly confirmed Dr. Robert Califf as commissioner of the Food and Drug Administration.flockofseagulls104 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 16, 2022 10:47 pmMaybe you shouldn't put so much faith in the FDA.Bob78164 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 16, 2022 7:35 pmYou mean is he responsible for the injuries and deaths prevented by keeping these ineffective and sometimes-dangerous "treatments" from being misused? I guess Bob would need to answer that for himself.themanintheseersuckersuit wrote: ↑Wed Feb 16, 2022 7:26 pmAre you responsible for the vaccine injuries, or suffering caused by the suppression of treatments like HCQ and Ivermectin or the lack of push for Vitamin D?
Me, I'd credit the FDA, and if memory serves, it made the key decisions prior to the change in Administration so I can't even take credit for voting for the candidate who put the responsible officials in place. --Bob
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Bob, the 'responsible officials' are not appointed or beholden to any elected official. They are part of the Washington DC bureaucracy, who are beholden mostly to themselves and to the continuity and growth of their 'missions'. They don't go away. They just grow. You need to grok that.
It's what has been called 'The Swamp'. One recent President grokked it. They fought back. Hard. And they won.... for now.
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Well here we go. Congratulations, Canada!
The government (ie: Trudeau) has started freezing bank accounts, credit cards, etc of individual people it has put on a list. And the banks are cooperating. (According to this and other reports). I guess it's OK for a central authority to confiscate the property of citizens they deem undesirable. (where did they do that before?) Just wait until YOU become undesirable. By that time, who knows what powers they will have given themselves?
Do you really want to become a dictatorship?
We can get there too, if Bob#s gets his wish of one party rule.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... ency-edict
The government (ie: Trudeau) has started freezing bank accounts, credit cards, etc of individual people it has put on a list. And the banks are cooperating. (According to this and other reports). I guess it's OK for a central authority to confiscate the property of citizens they deem undesirable. (where did they do that before?) Just wait until YOU become undesirable. By that time, who knows what powers they will have given themselves?
Do you really want to become a dictatorship?
We can get there too, if Bob#s gets his wish of one party rule.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... ency-edict
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Oh. I found it!
Hard to find. Probably censored from google and Youtube. Probably soon to be taken off of twitter, too.
Bob's one party rule at work. He must be proud.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1491861446971445259
Hard to find. Probably censored from google and Youtube. Probably soon to be taken off of twitter, too.
Bob's one party rule at work. He must be proud.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1491861446971445259
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Motions to withdraw from committee aren’t debatable on the floor so she got more leeway than she was entitled to. She’s welcome to debate the motion itself in committee. Nothing nefarious going on here, except perhaps for the Republicans deliberately flouting procedural rules designed to ensure that the body can get its work done.flockofseagulls104 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 17, 2022 1:54 pmWell here we go. Congratulations, Canada!
The government (ie: Trudeau) has started freezing bank accounts, credit cards, etc of individual people it has put on a list. And the banks are cooperating. (According to this and other reports). I guess it's OK for a central authority to confiscate the property of citizens they deem undesirable. (where did they do that before?) Just wait until YOU become undesirable. By that time, who knows what powers they will have given themselves?
Do you really want to become a dictatorship?
We can get there too, if Bob#s gets his wish of one party rule.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... ency-edict
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No, that's why I support the Democratic party as opposed to the Donald Trump autocratic party.
I don't know anything about Canadian law on this matter. I do know that in the United States, federal and most state law enforcement authorities can seize property if they suspect it's involved in criminal activity. It's called civil forfeiture and it's primarily been used to seize vehicles or cash suspected in drug cases. If it's seized, in many states, it's up to the property owners to prove that the property was not involved in any such activity. The laws do vary from state to state. New Mexico, Nebraska, and North Carolina have banned the practice. To be fair, both left-wing and some right-wing groups oppose the practice, but many law enforcement agencies view it as a valuable enforcement tool. Since most of the money goes to law enforcement agencies, it's also a very lucrative practice for the agencies that employ it.
So, thanks for waking up to a practice that violates civil rights that's been around for decades.
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This is not happening because they are merely protesting or what they are protesting about.flockofseagulls104 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 17, 2022 1:54 pmWell here we go. Congratulations, Canada!
The government (ie: Trudeau) has started freezing bank accounts, credit cards, etc of individual people it has put on a list. And the banks are cooperating. (According to this and other reports). I guess it's OK for a central authority to confiscate the property of citizens they deem undesirable. (where did they do that before?) Just wait until YOU become undesirable. By that time, who knows what powers they will have given themselves?
Do you really want to become a dictatorship?
We can get there too, if Bob#s gets his wish of one party rule.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... ency-edict
What if, because of a mandate, someone just camped out on your street and blocked the road and called it a protest?
Is it a dictatorship if the police clear that person out? Or just restoring social order?
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What if peeps camped out, blocking roads, without a mandate? What's the diff? Happened a lot here the last couple years. Lotsa statutes to govern all that that weren't enforced.Weyoun wrote: ↑Thu Feb 17, 2022 3:47 pmThis is not happening because they are merely protesting or what they are protesting about.flockofseagulls104 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 17, 2022 1:54 pmWell here we go. Congratulations, Canada!
The government (ie: Trudeau) has started freezing bank accounts, credit cards, etc of individual people it has put on a list. And the banks are cooperating. (According to this and other reports). I guess it's OK for a central authority to confiscate the property of citizens they deem undesirable. (where did they do that before?) Just wait until YOU become undesirable. By that time, who knows what powers they will have given themselves?
Do you really want to become a dictatorship?
We can get there too, if Bob#s gets his wish of one party rule.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... ency-edict
What if, because of a mandate, someone just camped out on your street and blocked the road and called it a protest?
Is it a dictatorship if the police clear that person out? Or just restoring social order?
Well, then
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Fix the facts for youflockofseagulls104 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 17, 2022 1:54 pmWell here we go. Congratulations, Canada!
The government (ie: Trudeau) has started freezing bank accounts, credit cards, etc of individual people who have donated to a proven insurrectionist organization And the banks are following the legal requirements .(According to this and other reports). I guess it's OK for a central authority to confiscate the property of citizens who have openly defied police instructions and threatened local citizens. (where did they do that before?) Just wait until YOU become undesirable. By that time, who knows what powers they will have given themselves?
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What about Canada's weird draconian efforts seem normal to you?
Well, then
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Do you consider the laws passed by states such as Florida authorizing drivers to drive through protestors, bowling them over like so many duckpins, to be draconian? --Bob
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https://slate.com/business/2021/04/driv ... licans.amp
There is the "if your life was in danger" thing. State's rights etc. Not a federal crackdown on private bank accts, etc. I'm sure individual cases of running down would be adjudicated properly.
There is the "if your life was in danger" thing. State's rights etc. Not a federal crackdown on private bank accts, etc. I'm sure individual cases of running down would be adjudicated properly.
Well, then
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Except that the standard (as described in these articles) isn't "your life is actually in danger." It's not even, "you reasonably believed your life was in danger." It's "you believed (reasonably or not) that your life was in danger."Beebs52 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 17, 2022 5:07 pmhttps://slate.com/business/2021/04/driv ... licans.amp
There is the "if your life was in danger" thing. State's rights etc. Not a federal crackdown on private bank accts, etc. I'm sure individual cases of running down would be adjudicated properly.
What could possibly go wrong? --Bob
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Omg. What could ever possibly go wrong ever? Vapidity.Bob78164 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 17, 2022 5:38 pmExcept that the standard (as described in these articles) isn't "your life is actually in danger." It's not even, "you reasonably believed your life was in danger." It's "you believed (reasonably or not) that your life was in danger."Beebs52 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 17, 2022 5:07 pmhttps://slate.com/business/2021/04/driv ... licans.amp
There is the "if your life was in danger" thing. State's rights etc. Not a federal crackdown on private bank accts, etc. I'm sure individual cases of running down would be adjudicated properly.
What could possibly go wrong? --Bob
Well, then
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Which is more likely - someone use this law as an excuse to run over a black guy, or a vaccine mandate lead to Another Holocaust?Beebs52 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 17, 2022 5:48 pmOmg. What could ever possibly go wrong ever? Vapidity.Bob78164 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 17, 2022 5:38 pmExcept that the standard (as described in these articles) isn't "your life is actually in danger." It's not even, "you reasonably believed your life was in danger." It's "you believed (reasonably or not) that your life was in danger."Beebs52 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 17, 2022 5:07 pmhttps://slate.com/business/2021/04/driv ... licans.amp
There is the "if your life was in danger" thing. State's rights etc. Not a federal crackdown on private bank accts, etc. I'm sure individual cases of running down would be adjudicated properly.
What could possibly go wrong? --Bob
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Trayvon Martin’s family would disagree with you.Beebs52 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 17, 2022 5:07 pmhttps://slate.com/business/2021/04/driv ... licans.amp
There is the "if your life was in danger" thing. State's rights etc. Not a federal crackdown on private bank accts, etc. I'm sure individual cases of running down would be adjudicated properly.
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That's right. All protests involve running over black people. I forget.Weyoun wrote: ↑Thu Feb 17, 2022 6:10 pmWhich is more likely - someone use this law as an excuse to run over a black guy, or a vaccine mandate lead to Another Holocaust?Beebs52 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 17, 2022 5:48 pmOmg. What could ever possibly go wrong ever? Vapidity.Bob78164 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 17, 2022 5:38 pmExcept that the standard (as described in these articles) isn't "your life is actually in danger." It's not even, "you reasonably believed your life was in danger." It's "you believed (reasonably or not) that your life was in danger."
What could possibly go wrong? --Bob
Well, then
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And this has what to do with confiscating bank accts? Again, are you on break or something? I'm sure you're a great doc and have never accused you of anything else. So, you can take my braying, as opposed to tgirl's, as a giant I'm so sorry you're misguided. Please focus.Weyoun wrote: ↑Thu Feb 17, 2022 6:11 pmTrayvon Martin’s family would disagree with you.Beebs52 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 17, 2022 5:07 pmhttps://slate.com/business/2021/04/driv ... licans.amp
There is the "if your life was in danger" thing. State's rights etc. Not a federal crackdown on private bank accts, etc. I'm sure individual cases of running down would be adjudicated properly.
Well, then
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Beebs52 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 17, 2022 3:53 pmWhat if peeps camped out, blocking roads, without a mandate? What's the diff? Happened a lot here the last couple years. Lotsa statutes to govern all that that weren't enforced.Weyoun wrote: ↑Thu Feb 17, 2022 3:47 pmThis is not happening because they are merely protesting or what they are protesting about.flockofseagulls104 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 17, 2022 1:54 pmWell here we go. Congratulations, Canada!
The government (ie: Trudeau) has started freezing bank accounts, credit cards, etc of individual people it has put on a list. And the banks are cooperating. (According to this and other reports). I guess it's OK for a central authority to confiscate the property of citizens they deem undesirable. (where did they do that before?) Just wait until YOU become undesirable. By that time, who knows what powers they will have given themselves?
Do you really want to become a dictatorship?
We can get there too, if Bob#s gets his wish of one party rule.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... ency-edict
What if, because of a mandate, someone just camped out on your street and blocked the road and called it a protest?
Is it a dictatorship if the police clear that person out? Or just restoring social order?
Not only not enforced; actively encouraged by "lawmakers" on the left, and cheered by lefties here. But that's diiiifffferent...
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I don’t disagree. I thought it was hypocritical then to say those gatherings were “safe” but others weren’t.tlynn78 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 17, 2022 6:47 pmBeebs52 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 17, 2022 3:53 pmWhat if peeps camped out, blocking roads, without a mandate? What's the diff? Happened a lot here the last couple years. Lotsa statutes to govern all that that weren't enforced.Weyoun wrote: ↑Thu Feb 17, 2022 3:47 pm
This is not happening because they are merely protesting or what they are protesting about.
What if, because of a mandate, someone just camped out on your street and blocked the road and called it a protest?
Is it a dictatorship if the police clear that person out? Or just restoring social order?
Not only not enforced; actively encouraged by "lawmakers" on the left, and cheered by lefties here. But that's diiiifffferent...
And encouraging ANY kind of property destruction just gives the other side license to do the same.
What’s your point? Two wrongs make a right? At least you admit you are wrong…
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You posted an article about Florida’s “let’s drive over black people” law, which has enough holes in it to justify all sorts of homicides - just like what happened to Trayvon Martin.Beebs52 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 17, 2022 6:19 pmAnd this has what to do with confiscating bank accts? Again, are you on break or something? I'm sure you're a great doc and have never accused you of anything else. So, you can take my braying, as opposed to tgirl's, as a giant I'm so sorry you're misguided. Please focus.Weyoun wrote: ↑Thu Feb 17, 2022 6:11 pmTrayvon Martin’s family would disagree with you.Beebs52 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 17, 2022 5:07 pmhttps://slate.com/business/2021/04/driv ... licans.amp
There is the "if your life was in danger" thing. State's rights etc. Not a federal crackdown on private bank accts, etc. I'm sure individual cases of running down would be adjudicated properly.
Please focus!
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Where. The. Fuck. Does it say drive over black people. You're fucking crazy.Weyoun wrote: ↑Thu Feb 17, 2022 7:10 pmYou posted an article about Florida’s “let’s drive over black people” law, which has enough holes in it to justify all sorts of homicides - just like what happened to Trayvon Martin.Beebs52 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 17, 2022 6:19 pmAnd this has what to do with confiscating bank accts? Again, are you on break or something? I'm sure you're a great doc and have never accused you of anything else. So, you can take my braying, as opposed to tgirl's, as a giant I'm so sorry you're misguided. Please focus.
Please focus!
Well, then
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LMAO!! Did you seriously just tell someone else yo focus? LolololWeyoun wrote: ↑Thu Feb 17, 2022 7:10 pmYou posted an article about Florida’s “let’s drive over black people” law, which has enough holes in it to justify all sorts of homicides - just like what happened to Trayvon Martin.Beebs52 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 17, 2022 6:19 pmAnd this has what to do with confiscating bank accts? Again, are you on break or something? I'm sure you're a great doc and have never accused you of anything else. So, you can take my braying, as opposed to tgirl's, as a giant I'm so sorry you're misguided. Please focus.
Please focus!
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I think bob and weyoun are actually the same person claiming to have different college degrees.Weyoun wrote: ↑Thu Feb 17, 2022 7:10 pmYou posted an article about Florida’s “let’s drive over black people” law, which has enough holes in it to justify all sorts of homicides - just like what happened to Trayvon Martin.Beebs52 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 17, 2022 6:19 pmAnd this has what to do with confiscating bank accts? Again, are you on break or something? I'm sure you're a great doc and have never accused you of anything else. So, you can take my braying, as opposed to tgirl's, as a giant I'm so sorry you're misguided. Please focus.
Please focus!
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