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#126 Post by silverscreenselect » Thu Feb 17, 2022 10:31 am

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You don't get the word "freedom". Not withstanding your assumption you know little about, no one is required to take those medicines.
We've never had absolute freedom in this country, especially in matters of health and safety. Hundreds of drugs have been pulled from the market or banned in the first place. Try finding thalidomide anywhere. And every state requires certain vaccines for children and in some cases for certain adults. And almost every state requires people to use safety belts and many require motorcycle helmets.
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#127 Post by Bob Juch » Thu Feb 17, 2022 10:56 am

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BackInTex wrote:
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You don't get the word "freedom". Not withstanding your assumption you know little about, no one is required to take those medicines.
We've never had absolute freedom in this country, especially in matters of health and safety. Hundreds of drugs have been pulled from the market or banned in the first place. Try finding thalidomide anywhere. And every state requires certain vaccines for children and in some cases for certain adults. And almost every state requires people to use safety belts and many require motorcycle helmets.
Thalidomide is still available; it's prescribed for certain diseases, such as multiple myeloma, just not to pregnant women.
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#128 Post by Bob Juch » Thu Feb 17, 2022 11:01 am

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Are you responsible for the vaccine injuries, or suffering caused by the suppression of treatments like HCQ and Ivermectin or the lack of push for Vitamin D?
You mean is he responsible for the injuries and deaths prevented by keeping these ineffective and sometimes-dangerous "treatments" from being misused? I guess Bob would need to answer that for himself.

Me, I'd credit the FDA, and if memory serves, it made the key decisions prior to the change in Administration so I can't even take credit for voting for the candidate who put the responsible officials in place. --Bob
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Bob, the 'responsible officials' are not appointed or beholden to any elected official. They are part of the Washington DC bureaucracy, who are beholden mostly to themselves and to the continuity and growth of their 'missions'. They don't go away. They just grow. You need to grok that.
It's what has been called 'The Swamp'. One recent President grokked it. They fought back. Hard. And they won.... for now.
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#129 Post by flockofseagulls104 » Thu Feb 17, 2022 1:54 pm

Well here we go. Congratulations, Canada!

The government (ie: Trudeau) has started freezing bank accounts, credit cards, etc of individual people it has put on a list. And the banks are cooperating. (According to this and other reports). I guess it's OK for a central authority to confiscate the property of citizens they deem undesirable. (where did they do that before?) Just wait until YOU become undesirable. By that time, who knows what powers they will have given themselves?

Do you really want to become a dictatorship?

We can get there too, if Bob#s gets his wish of one party rule.

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#130 Post by flockofseagulls104 » Thu Feb 17, 2022 2:10 pm

Oh. I found it!

Hard to find. Probably censored from google and Youtube. Probably soon to be taken off of twitter, too.

Bob's one party rule at work. He must be proud.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1491861446971445259
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#131 Post by Bob78164 » Thu Feb 17, 2022 3:00 pm

flockofseagulls104 wrote:
Thu Feb 17, 2022 1:54 pm
Well here we go. Congratulations, Canada!

The government (ie: Trudeau) has started freezing bank accounts, credit cards, etc of individual people it has put on a list. And the banks are cooperating. (According to this and other reports). I guess it's OK for a central authority to confiscate the property of citizens they deem undesirable. (where did they do that before?) Just wait until YOU become undesirable. By that time, who knows what powers they will have given themselves?

Do you really want to become a dictatorship?

We can get there too, if Bob#s gets his wish of one party rule.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... ency-edict
Motions to withdraw from committee aren’t debatable on the floor so she got more leeway than she was entitled to. She’s welcome to debate the motion itself in committee. Nothing nefarious going on here, except perhaps for the Republicans deliberately flouting procedural rules designed to ensure that the body can get its work done.

And I don’t remember you complaining when Michigan Republicans a few years back refused even to take a roll call vote. —Bob
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#132 Post by silverscreenselect » Thu Feb 17, 2022 3:15 pm

flockofseagulls104 wrote:
Thu Feb 17, 2022 1:54 pm
Do you really want to become a dictatorship?
No, that's why I support the Democratic party as opposed to the Donald Trump autocratic party.

I don't know anything about Canadian law on this matter. I do know that in the United States, federal and most state law enforcement authorities can seize property if they suspect it's involved in criminal activity. It's called civil forfeiture and it's primarily been used to seize vehicles or cash suspected in drug cases. If it's seized, in many states, it's up to the property owners to prove that the property was not involved in any such activity. The laws do vary from state to state. New Mexico, Nebraska, and North Carolina have banned the practice. To be fair, both left-wing and some right-wing groups oppose the practice, but many law enforcement agencies view it as a valuable enforcement tool. Since most of the money goes to law enforcement agencies, it's also a very lucrative practice for the agencies that employ it.

So, thanks for waking up to a practice that violates civil rights that's been around for decades.
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#133 Post by Weyoun » Thu Feb 17, 2022 3:47 pm

flockofseagulls104 wrote:
Thu Feb 17, 2022 1:54 pm
Well here we go. Congratulations, Canada!

The government (ie: Trudeau) has started freezing bank accounts, credit cards, etc of individual people it has put on a list. And the banks are cooperating. (According to this and other reports). I guess it's OK for a central authority to confiscate the property of citizens they deem undesirable. (where did they do that before?) Just wait until YOU become undesirable. By that time, who knows what powers they will have given themselves?

Do you really want to become a dictatorship?

We can get there too, if Bob#s gets his wish of one party rule.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... ency-edict
This is not happening because they are merely protesting or what they are protesting about.

What if, because of a mandate, someone just camped out on your street and blocked the road and called it a protest?

Is it a dictatorship if the police clear that person out? Or just restoring social order?

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#134 Post by Beebs52 » Thu Feb 17, 2022 3:53 pm

Weyoun wrote:
Thu Feb 17, 2022 3:47 pm
flockofseagulls104 wrote:
Thu Feb 17, 2022 1:54 pm
Well here we go. Congratulations, Canada!

The government (ie: Trudeau) has started freezing bank accounts, credit cards, etc of individual people it has put on a list. And the banks are cooperating. (According to this and other reports). I guess it's OK for a central authority to confiscate the property of citizens they deem undesirable. (where did they do that before?) Just wait until YOU become undesirable. By that time, who knows what powers they will have given themselves?

Do you really want to become a dictatorship?

We can get there too, if Bob#s gets his wish of one party rule.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... ency-edict
This is not happening because they are merely protesting or what they are protesting about.

What if, because of a mandate, someone just camped out on your street and blocked the road and called it a protest?

Is it a dictatorship if the police clear that person out? Or just restoring social order?
What if peeps camped out, blocking roads, without a mandate? What's the diff? Happened a lot here the last couple years. Lotsa statutes to govern all that that weren't enforced.
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#135 Post by a1mamacat » Thu Feb 17, 2022 4:09 pm

flockofseagulls104 wrote:
Thu Feb 17, 2022 1:54 pm
Well here we go. Congratulations, Canada!

The government (ie: Trudeau) has started freezing bank accounts, credit cards, etc of individual people who have donated to a proven insurrectionist organization And the banks are following the legal requirements .(According to this and other reports). I guess it's OK for a central authority to confiscate the property of citizens who have openly defied police instructions and threatened local citizens. (where did they do that before?) Just wait until YOU become undesirable. By that time, who knows what powers they will have given themselves?


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#136 Post by Beebs52 » Thu Feb 17, 2022 4:54 pm

What about Canada's weird draconian efforts seem normal to you?
Well, then

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#137 Post by Bob78164 » Thu Feb 17, 2022 4:57 pm

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What about Canada's weird draconian efforts seem normal to you?
Do you consider the laws passed by states such as Florida authorizing drivers to drive through protestors, bowling them over like so many duckpins, to be draconian? --Bob
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#138 Post by Beebs52 » Thu Feb 17, 2022 5:07 pm

https://slate.com/business/2021/04/driv ... licans.amp

There is the "if your life was in danger" thing. State's rights etc. Not a federal crackdown on private bank accts, etc. I'm sure individual cases of running down would be adjudicated properly.
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#139 Post by Bob78164 » Thu Feb 17, 2022 5:38 pm

Beebs52 wrote:
Thu Feb 17, 2022 5:07 pm
https://slate.com/business/2021/04/driv ... licans.amp

There is the "if your life was in danger" thing. State's rights etc. Not a federal crackdown on private bank accts, etc. I'm sure individual cases of running down would be adjudicated properly.
Except that the standard (as described in these articles) isn't "your life is actually in danger." It's not even, "you reasonably believed your life was in danger." It's "you believed (reasonably or not) that your life was in danger."

What could possibly go wrong? --Bob
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#140 Post by Beebs52 » Thu Feb 17, 2022 5:48 pm

Bob78164 wrote:
Thu Feb 17, 2022 5:38 pm
Beebs52 wrote:
Thu Feb 17, 2022 5:07 pm
https://slate.com/business/2021/04/driv ... licans.amp

There is the "if your life was in danger" thing. State's rights etc. Not a federal crackdown on private bank accts, etc. I'm sure individual cases of running down would be adjudicated properly.
Except that the standard (as described in these articles) isn't "your life is actually in danger." It's not even, "you reasonably believed your life was in danger." It's "you believed (reasonably or not) that your life was in danger."

What could possibly go wrong? --Bob
Omg. What could ever possibly go wrong ever? Vapidity.
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#141 Post by Weyoun » Thu Feb 17, 2022 6:10 pm

Beebs52 wrote:
Thu Feb 17, 2022 5:48 pm
Bob78164 wrote:
Thu Feb 17, 2022 5:38 pm
Beebs52 wrote:
Thu Feb 17, 2022 5:07 pm
https://slate.com/business/2021/04/driv ... licans.amp

There is the "if your life was in danger" thing. State's rights etc. Not a federal crackdown on private bank accts, etc. I'm sure individual cases of running down would be adjudicated properly.
Except that the standard (as described in these articles) isn't "your life is actually in danger." It's not even, "you reasonably believed your life was in danger." It's "you believed (reasonably or not) that your life was in danger."

What could possibly go wrong? --Bob
Omg. What could ever possibly go wrong ever? Vapidity.
Which is more likely - someone use this law as an excuse to run over a black guy, or a vaccine mandate lead to Another Holocaust?

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#142 Post by Weyoun » Thu Feb 17, 2022 6:11 pm

Beebs52 wrote:
Thu Feb 17, 2022 5:07 pm
https://slate.com/business/2021/04/driv ... licans.amp

There is the "if your life was in danger" thing. State's rights etc. Not a federal crackdown on private bank accts, etc. I'm sure individual cases of running down would be adjudicated properly.
Trayvon Martin’s family would disagree with you.

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#143 Post by Beebs52 » Thu Feb 17, 2022 6:14 pm

Weyoun wrote:
Thu Feb 17, 2022 6:10 pm
Beebs52 wrote:
Thu Feb 17, 2022 5:48 pm
Bob78164 wrote:
Thu Feb 17, 2022 5:38 pm
Except that the standard (as described in these articles) isn't "your life is actually in danger." It's not even, "you reasonably believed your life was in danger." It's "you believed (reasonably or not) that your life was in danger."

What could possibly go wrong? --Bob
Omg. What could ever possibly go wrong ever? Vapidity.
Which is more likely - someone use this law as an excuse to run over a black guy, or a vaccine mandate lead to Another Holocaust?
That's right. All protests involve running over black people. I forget.
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#144 Post by Beebs52 » Thu Feb 17, 2022 6:19 pm

Weyoun wrote:
Thu Feb 17, 2022 6:11 pm
Beebs52 wrote:
Thu Feb 17, 2022 5:07 pm
https://slate.com/business/2021/04/driv ... licans.amp

There is the "if your life was in danger" thing. State's rights etc. Not a federal crackdown on private bank accts, etc. I'm sure individual cases of running down would be adjudicated properly.
Trayvon Martin’s family would disagree with you.
And this has what to do with confiscating bank accts? Again, are you on break or something? I'm sure you're a great doc and have never accused you of anything else. So, you can take my braying, as opposed to tgirl's, as a giant I'm so sorry you're misguided. Please focus.
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#145 Post by tlynn78 » Thu Feb 17, 2022 6:47 pm

Beebs52 wrote:
Thu Feb 17, 2022 3:53 pm
Weyoun wrote:
Thu Feb 17, 2022 3:47 pm
flockofseagulls104 wrote:
Thu Feb 17, 2022 1:54 pm
Well here we go. Congratulations, Canada!

The government (ie: Trudeau) has started freezing bank accounts, credit cards, etc of individual people it has put on a list. And the banks are cooperating. (According to this and other reports). I guess it's OK for a central authority to confiscate the property of citizens they deem undesirable. (where did they do that before?) Just wait until YOU become undesirable. By that time, who knows what powers they will have given themselves?

Do you really want to become a dictatorship?

We can get there too, if Bob#s gets his wish of one party rule.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... ency-edict
This is not happening because they are merely protesting or what they are protesting about.

What if, because of a mandate, someone just camped out on your street and blocked the road and called it a protest?

Is it a dictatorship if the police clear that person out? Or just restoring social order?
What if peeps camped out, blocking roads, without a mandate? What's the diff? Happened a lot here the last couple years. Lotsa statutes to govern all that that weren't enforced.

Not only not enforced; actively encouraged by "lawmakers" on the left, and cheered by lefties here. But that's diiiifffferent...
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#146 Post by Weyoun » Thu Feb 17, 2022 7:08 pm

tlynn78 wrote:
Thu Feb 17, 2022 6:47 pm
Beebs52 wrote:
Thu Feb 17, 2022 3:53 pm
Weyoun wrote:
Thu Feb 17, 2022 3:47 pm


This is not happening because they are merely protesting or what they are protesting about.

What if, because of a mandate, someone just camped out on your street and blocked the road and called it a protest?

Is it a dictatorship if the police clear that person out? Or just restoring social order?
What if peeps camped out, blocking roads, without a mandate? What's the diff? Happened a lot here the last couple years. Lotsa statutes to govern all that that weren't enforced.

Not only not enforced; actively encouraged by "lawmakers" on the left, and cheered by lefties here. But that's diiiifffferent...
I don’t disagree. I thought it was hypocritical then to say those gatherings were “safe” but others weren’t.

And encouraging ANY kind of property destruction just gives the other side license to do the same.

What’s your point? Two wrongs make a right? At least you admit you are wrong…

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#147 Post by Weyoun » Thu Feb 17, 2022 7:10 pm

Beebs52 wrote:
Thu Feb 17, 2022 6:19 pm
Weyoun wrote:
Thu Feb 17, 2022 6:11 pm
Beebs52 wrote:
Thu Feb 17, 2022 5:07 pm
https://slate.com/business/2021/04/driv ... licans.amp

There is the "if your life was in danger" thing. State's rights etc. Not a federal crackdown on private bank accts, etc. I'm sure individual cases of running down would be adjudicated properly.
Trayvon Martin’s family would disagree with you.
And this has what to do with confiscating bank accts? Again, are you on break or something? I'm sure you're a great doc and have never accused you of anything else. So, you can take my braying, as opposed to tgirl's, as a giant I'm so sorry you're misguided. Please focus.
You posted an article about Florida’s “let’s drive over black people” law, which has enough holes in it to justify all sorts of homicides - just like what happened to Trayvon Martin.

Please focus!

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#148 Post by Beebs52 » Thu Feb 17, 2022 7:12 pm

Weyoun wrote:
Thu Feb 17, 2022 7:10 pm
Beebs52 wrote:
Thu Feb 17, 2022 6:19 pm
Weyoun wrote:
Thu Feb 17, 2022 6:11 pm


Trayvon Martin’s family would disagree with you.
And this has what to do with confiscating bank accts? Again, are you on break or something? I'm sure you're a great doc and have never accused you of anything else. So, you can take my braying, as opposed to tgirl's, as a giant I'm so sorry you're misguided. Please focus.
You posted an article about Florida’s “let’s drive over black people” law, which has enough holes in it to justify all sorts of homicides - just like what happened to Trayvon Martin.

Please focus!
Where. The. Fuck. Does it say drive over black people. You're fucking crazy.
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#149 Post by tlynn78 » Thu Feb 17, 2022 7:14 pm

Weyoun wrote:
Thu Feb 17, 2022 7:10 pm
Beebs52 wrote:
Thu Feb 17, 2022 6:19 pm
Weyoun wrote:
Thu Feb 17, 2022 6:11 pm


Trayvon Martin’s family would disagree with you.
And this has what to do with confiscating bank accts? Again, are you on break or something? I'm sure you're a great doc and have never accused you of anything else. So, you can take my braying, as opposed to tgirl's, as a giant I'm so sorry you're misguided. Please focus.
You posted an article about Florida’s “let’s drive over black people” law, which has enough holes in it to justify all sorts of homicides - just like what happened to Trayvon Martin.

Please focus!
LMAO!! Did you seriously just tell someone else yo focus? Lololol
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#150 Post by flockofseagulls104 » Thu Feb 17, 2022 8:19 pm

Weyoun wrote:
Thu Feb 17, 2022 7:10 pm
Beebs52 wrote:
Thu Feb 17, 2022 6:19 pm
Weyoun wrote:
Thu Feb 17, 2022 6:11 pm


Trayvon Martin’s family would disagree with you.
And this has what to do with confiscating bank accts? Again, are you on break or something? I'm sure you're a great doc and have never accused you of anything else. So, you can take my braying, as opposed to tgirl's, as a giant I'm so sorry you're misguided. Please focus.
You posted an article about Florida’s “let’s drive over black people” law, which has enough holes in it to justify all sorts of homicides - just like what happened to Trayvon Martin.

Please focus!
I think bob and weyoun are actually the same person claiming to have different college degrees.
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