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Tampa roaring back in Game 2

#1 Post by Jeemie » Thu Oct 23, 2008 7:43 pm

And Philly can't buy a hit with runners in scoring position.

They are now 0-22 with RISP in 1+ games.

This game, for three straight innings, they got a guy to third with 1 out, and couldn't get him home. Three straight times, the batter that came up when they got the runner to third struck out.
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Re: Tampa roaring back in Game 2

#2 Post by Snaxx » Thu Oct 23, 2008 8:26 pm

Jeemie wrote:And Philly can't buy a hit with runners in scoring position.

They are now 0-22 with RISP in 1+ games.

This game, for three straight innings, they got a guy to third with 1 out, and couldn't get him home. Three straight times, the batter that came up when they got the runner to third struck out.
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Re: Tampa roaring back in Game 2

#3 Post by mellytu74 » Thu Oct 23, 2008 9:39 pm

My Phillies have been beyond putrid with runners in scoring positions.

However, sir, exactly how is scoring three run of their four runs on groundouts constitute "roaring" back for the Rays? :D

And not Kerwin Danley's shining hour, either.

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Re: Tampa roaring back in Game 2

#4 Post by littlebeast13 » Thu Oct 23, 2008 9:49 pm

mellytu74 wrote:And not Kerwin Danley's shining hour, either.

Are you sure that wasn't Phil Luckett.....?

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Re: Tampa roaring back in Game 2

#5 Post by Jeemie » Thu Oct 23, 2008 9:54 pm

mellytu74 wrote:My Phillies have been beyond putrid with runners in scoring positions.

However, sir, exactly how is scoring three run of their four runs on groundouts constitute "roaring" back for the Rays? :D

And not Kerwin Danley's shining hour, either.
Yeah- I have to admit I don't know what the heck that was in the 2nd inning.

I've never seen the home plate umpire ring someone up, and then appeal it into a walk before.

And then to miss that HBP on Rollins in the 9th. Potentially, the game could have been tied there in the 9th had Danley gotten both calls right.

And I wrote "roaring back" when it looked like the Rays were ready to explode- it was premature, that is true.
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Re: Tampa roaring back in Game 2

#6 Post by mellytu74 » Thu Oct 23, 2008 9:57 pm

littlebeast13 wrote:
mellytu74 wrote:And not Kerwin Danley's shining hour, either.

Are you sure that wasn't Phil Luckett.....?

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Between the floating strike zone -- which went both ways -- and the bogus walk to Baldelli (AFTER calling the pitch strike three THEN asking Fielding Culbreth at first for help which he cannot do AFTER callingithe pitch strike three) and the non-HBP call in the 9th....

When they interviewed Rays' pitcher David Price, he said it didn't hit him, just his uniform.

Uh, David.....

Actually, as I said in chat the other night, if the Phillies weren't playing, I might be rooting for the Rays because it's such a charming story.

But, the Phillies are playing.

Except when runners are in scoring positions.

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Re: Tampa roaring back in Game 2

#7 Post by mellytu74 » Thu Oct 23, 2008 10:00 pm

Jeemie wrote:
mellytu74 wrote:My Phillies have been beyond putrid with runners in scoring positions.

However, sir, exactly how is scoring three run of their four runs on groundouts constitute "roaring" back for the Rays? :D

And not Kerwin Danley's shining hour, either.
Yeah- I have to admit I don't know what the heck that was in the 2nd inning.

I've never seen the home plate umpire ring someone up, and then appeal it into a walk before.

And then to miss that HBP on Rollins in the 9th. Potentially, the game could have been tied there in the 9th had Danley gotten both calls right.

And I wrote "roaring back" when it looked like the Rays were ready to explode- it was premature, that is true.
Jeemie --

Great timing!

:D

Edited because the person who was writing the same time as I was is Jeemie.
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Re: Tampa roaring back in Game 2

#8 Post by Jeemie » Thu Oct 23, 2008 10:03 pm

According to the rulebook, if Danley called a strike, it cannot be overturned by appeal.

Betcha 10 to 1 Danley's going to say he never called a strike.

Too bad he actually did.
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#9 Post by littlebeast13 » Thu Oct 23, 2008 10:06 pm

Jeemie wrote:According to the rulebook, if Danley called a strike, it cannot be overturned by appeal.

Betcha 10 to 1 Danley's going to say he never called a strike.

Too bad he actually did.
Yep, that's how I remember the rule too....

He'll have to study up on Doug Eddings' defense.....

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#10 Post by mellytu74 » Thu Oct 23, 2008 10:10 pm

According to his arm motion, he did.

And both Joe Buck and McCarver quoted the rulebook, specifiying that he casn't ask for help after he's made the call.

And they said he clearly made the motion for strike three.

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Re: Tampa roaring back in Game 2

#11 Post by Blind Beast » Fri Oct 24, 2008 8:45 am

Bad call? What bad calls? I didn't see any bad calls!
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Re: Tampa roaring back in Game 2

#12 Post by nitrah55 » Fri Oct 24, 2008 9:03 am

A ragged game in many ways, none moreso than the 9-3 double play. Always a pleasure to watch, except for the guy doubled off first kicking himself as they go to commercial.

Phillies have serious work to do at home. Casual prediction: Whoever wins Game 3 wins the Series.
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Re: Tampa roaring back in Game 2

#13 Post by Jeemie » Fri Oct 24, 2008 9:10 am

nitrah55 wrote:A ragged game in many ways, none moreso than the 9-3 double play. Always a pleasure to watch, except for the guy doubled off first kicking himself as they go to commercial.

Phillies have serious work to do at home. Casual prediction: Whoever wins Game 3 wins the Series.
But to be tied 1-1 (and if Danley gets those calls right, a serious chance to be up 2-0) after going 1-28 with RISP has got to give the Phils hope. The Rays aren't hitting for spit, either.

And it's supposed to rain on Saturday, so if the game is rained out, the Phillies can bring back Hamels for Game 4, and possibly Game 7 as well.

So Phillies' fans, do your rain dances!!!
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#14 Post by mellytu74 » Fri Oct 24, 2008 9:24 am

Jeemie wrote:
nitrah55 wrote:A ragged game in many ways, none moreso than the 9-3 double play. Always a pleasure to watch, except for the guy doubled off first kicking himself as they go to commercial.

Phillies have serious work to do at home. Casual prediction: Whoever wins Game 3 wins the Series.
But to be tied 1-1 (and if Danley gets those calls right, a serious chance to be up 2-0) after going 1-28 with RISP has got to give the Phils hope. The Rays aren't hitting for spit, either.

And it's supposed to rain on Saturday, so if the game is rained out, the Phillies can bring back Hamels for Game 4, and possibly Game 7 as well.

So Phillies' fans, do your rain dances!!!
The second inning just crystalizes how REALLY crummy the night was for the Phillies.

After a six or seven pitch at-bat, Ryan Howard doubles to lead off the inning. Pat Burrell works a walk, again with a seven or eight pitch at-bat.

Shane Victorino then swings at the first pitch which was at HIS EYES.

The two guys in front of him were making Shields pitch and Victorino swings at the first pitch that wasn't even a good pitch to swing at.

He popped up.

Seriously. TLAF is almost 91 years old. The agita-inducing Phillies are not helping.

Regarding the umpires: For some odd reason, MLB doesn't seem to have ANY umpire accountability.

This isn't just the Phillies' games -- although I see more of them than any other team, of course. I've seen it on the Fox and ESPN games, too.

Ever since Buddy boy, in his infinite wisdom, consolidated the NL and AL umpires (when he got rid of the respective league presidents), the umpiring has been more and more inconsistent. And nothing seems to change.

Ironically, when the umpires' union was Richie Phillips' organization and not the MLB house group it is now, post-season umpires were chosen on their rankings. You're a good ump, you work the post-season. You aren't, you don't.

How interesting it might have been if that were the case now.

One more thing -- I really hope the Rays do get their new stadium. It's like looking at a ballgame played inside the Hindenburg.

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Re: Tampa roaring back in Game 2

#15 Post by Jim Cantore » Fri Oct 24, 2008 9:27 am

Jeemie wrote:
nitrah55 wrote:A ragged game in many ways, none moreso than the 9-3 double play. Always a pleasure to watch, except for the guy doubled off first kicking himself as they go to commercial.

Phillies have serious work to do at home. Casual prediction: Whoever wins Game 3 wins the Series.
But to be tied 1-1 (and if Danley gets those calls right, a serious chance to be up 2-0) after going 1-28 with RISP has got to give the Phils hope. The Rays aren't hitting for spit, either.

And it's supposed to rain on Saturday, so if the game is rained out, the Phillies can bring back Hamels for Game 4, and possibly Game 7 as well.

So Phillies' fans, do your rain dances!!!

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#16 Post by OhTheHumanity » Fri Oct 24, 2008 9:30 am

mellytu74 wrote:One more thing -- I really hope the Rays do get their new stadium. It's like looking at a ballgame played inside the Hindenburg.

Does Fox need a new broadcaster?

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#17 Post by Hell Kitty » Fri Oct 24, 2008 9:32 am

Do the Phillies need a new mascot?

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Re: Tampa roaring back in Game 2

#18 Post by Jeemie » Fri Oct 24, 2008 10:14 am

OhTheHumanity wrote:
mellytu74 wrote:One more thing -- I really hope the Rays do get their new stadium. It's like looking at a ballgame played inside the Hindenburg.

Does Fox need a new broadcaster?
What?

You thought no one would get this reference?

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#19 Post by BigDrawMan » Fri Oct 24, 2008 10:18 am

i cant get into the Series this year, as Baseball ended July 31
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#20 Post by littlebeast13 » Fri Oct 24, 2008 11:21 am

BigDrawMan wrote:i cant get into the Series this year, as Baseball ended July 31

July 31st!?!? I thought the Sid Bream slide occured on October 14th........

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#21 Post by Jeemie » Fri Oct 24, 2008 12:11 pm

littlebeast13 wrote:
BigDrawMan wrote:i cant get into the Series this year, as Baseball ended July 31

July 31st!?!? I thought the Sid Bream slide occured on October 14th........

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OK- now THAT was uncalled for.

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