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Not Tina Fey, isn't Palin ...

#1 Post by dimmzy » Sat Aug 30, 2008 8:06 am

Megan Mullally? Karen on Will & Grace?

And on another note, why is it that conservative women with infants are always working 12-hour a day paid jobs?

--dimmzy, who may just be cranky because she's dog-sitting two sick greyhounds.

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#2 Post by Bob Juch » Sat Aug 30, 2008 8:30 pm

I think Tina Fey looks closest to her.
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Re: Not Tina Fey, isn't Palin ...

#3 Post by Beebs52 » Sat Aug 30, 2008 8:40 pm

dimmzy wrote:Megan Mullally? Karen on Will & Grace?

And on another note, why is it that conservative women with infants are always working 12-hour a day paid jobs?

--dimmzy, who may just be cranky because she's dog-sitting two sick greyhounds.
Maybe they're just trying to make the liberal women with infants who aren't working 12-hour a day paid jobs feel better?

I realize I'm going to be blasted with this. But, Dimz, you must admit, that was a blast-inviter.
Well, then

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#4 Post by dimmzy » Sun Aug 31, 2008 9:58 am

But, Dimz, you must admit, that was a blast-inviter.
I'm not sure I understand your point.

I guess I was thinking that if you're working long hours with an infant, you'd sympathize with working women who DON'T have the advantages you do and you'd be in favor of traditional Democratic platforms (ie, paid parental leave and daycare.)

On the other hand, I admire any woman who goes ahead and has a child with disabilities when she had the option of abortion. She walks the talk there for sure.

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#5 Post by peacock2121 » Sun Aug 31, 2008 10:02 am

dimmzy wrote:
But, Dimz, you must admit, that was a blast-inviter.
I'm not sure I understand your point.

I guess I was thinking that if you're working long hours with an infant, you'd sympathize with working women who DON'T have the advantages you do and you'd be in favor of traditional Democratic platforms (ie, paid parental leave and daycare.)
What advantages do you mean - that she has and others don't?

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#6 Post by silvercamaro » Sun Aug 31, 2008 10:12 am

dimmzy wrote:
I guess I was thinking that if you're working long hours with an infant, you'd sympathize with working women who DON'T have the advantages you do and you'd be in favor of traditional Democratic platforms (ie, paid parental leave and daycare.)
Have I missed something? Have the Republicans been clamoring for new mothers to get back in the rice paddies immediately after the birth?

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#7 Post by wintergreen48 » Sun Aug 31, 2008 10:38 am

dimmzy wrote: I guess I was thinking that if you're working long hours with an infant, you'd sympathize with working women who DON'T have the advantages you do and you'd be in favor of traditional Democratic platforms (ie, paid parental leave and daycare.)

I don't think that conservative women have any objections at all to paid parental leave and daycare.

Unless you mean, government mandated paid parental leave and daycare. That's different.

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#8 Post by Beebs52 » Sun Aug 31, 2008 10:38 am

silvercamaro wrote:
dimmzy wrote:
I guess I was thinking that if you're working long hours with an infant, you'd sympathize with working women who DON'T have the advantages you do and you'd be in favor of traditional Democratic platforms (ie, paid parental leave and daycare.)
Have I missed something? Have the Republicans been clamoring for new mothers to get back in the rice paddies immediately after the birth?
Well, then

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#9 Post by dimmzy » Sun Aug 31, 2008 10:53 am

I don't think that conservative women have any objections at all to paid parental leave and daycare.
But isn't paid parental leave anti-business? Every corporation I know is fighting it tooth and nail. Small businesses here in New York say paid leave would drive them out of business.

Same for daycare. It's VERY expensive to have government-supported daycare. My county just dropped 2,000 families from daycare subsidies because they no longer have the funds.

The county gave the parents two weeks' notice.

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#10 Post by dimmzy » Sun Aug 31, 2008 10:58 am

What advantages do you mean - that she has and others don't?
Being governor, I would assume she could afford quality day care.

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#11 Post by Spock » Sun Aug 31, 2008 11:05 am

I have seen her referred to as having the "Naughty Librarian" look-apparently it is a skit on Craig Ferguson.

Anyway, I am thinking of the bookshop owner (or librarian) in The Big Sleep who entertained Bogie on a rainy day.

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#12 Post by Beebs52 » Sun Aug 31, 2008 12:41 pm

Beebs52 wrote:
silvercamaro wrote:
dimmzy wrote:
I guess I was thinking that if you're working long hours with an infant, you'd sympathize with working women who DON'T have the advantages you do and you'd be in favor of traditional Democratic platforms (ie, paid parental leave and daycare.)
Have I missed something? Have the Republicans been clamoring for new mothers to get back in the rice paddies immediately after the birth?
My post disappeared, except for the quotes part. Anyway, what I'd said was that I agreed with SC's take and didn't understand your initial statement. Therefore, I made a similar odd statement in response.

There are corporations offering paid childcare and most entities offer paid parental leave. At least all the places I've ever worked. I wasn't aware that "conservatives" were all so necessarily anti-that.

Apparently I'm dense and don't understand the nuances...

And now that I've seen Wintergreen's post I must agree with him as well. There is a distinct difference between private industry funding some of these things as opposed to my tax dollar. And if those small businesses around you do go under while offering daycare or any other perk I would question their desire to stay in business. Sometimes tough decisions must be made.
Well, then

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#13 Post by peacock2121 » Sun Aug 31, 2008 3:20 pm

dimmzy wrote:
What advantages do you mean - that she has and others don't?
Being governor, I would assume she could afford quality day care.
You and I must have a different definition of 'advantage'.

Anyone who is 30 + years old, a citizen of the US and lived in Alaska for 5 years can have that job.

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#14 Post by Tocqueville3 » Sun Aug 31, 2008 3:28 pm

I think what dimmzy is trying to say is that Republicans are mean spirited little bastards that don't want women to work so they will stop at nothing to deny them free, government run childcare.

We Republicans just want our women to be home cooking dinner and raisin' babies.

How dare a Republican women manage it all! How dare she quickly rise to success amongst some of the toughest good old boy political circles in the country. How dare she manage home, children and career successfully! And how dare she do it without the free help from the federal government!! The nerve!!

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#15 Post by Beebs52 » Sun Aug 31, 2008 3:36 pm

Tocqueville3 wrote:I think what dimmzy is trying to say is that Republicans are mean spirited little bastards that don't want women to work so they will stop at nothing to deny them free, government run childcare.

We Republicans just want our women to be home cooking dinner and raisin' babies.

How dare a Republican women manage it all! How dare she quickly rise to success amongst some of the toughest good old boy political circles in the country. How dare she manage home, children and career successfully! And how dare she do it without the free help from the federal government!! The nerve!!
You are SO meanspirited.
Well, then

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