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Lieberman to be McCain's VP choice

#1 Post by Bob Juch » Thu Aug 28, 2008 7:30 am

That's what they say.
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#2 Post by themanintheseersuckersuit » Thu Aug 28, 2008 7:32 am

Not going to happen. The have campaign appearances scheduled on a day Lieberman won't campaign.
Suitguy is not bitter.

feels he represents the many educated and rational onlookers who believe that the hysterical denouncement of lay scepticism is both unwarranted and counter-productive

The problem, then, is that such calls do not address an opposition audience so much as they signal virtue. They talk past those who need convincing. They ignore actual facts and counterargument. And they are irreparably smug.

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#3 Post by NellyLunatic1980 » Thu Aug 28, 2008 7:45 am

Only two things would make next week's Republican Convention exciting:

1. Playing a drinking game during Rudy Giuliani's keynote speech. Take one drink each time Rudy says "September 11th" or "9/11". (Warning: May cause cirrhosis, alcohol poisoning, or death.)

2. Watching the convention floor become apoplectic (sp?) over the nomination of pro-choice, quasi-Democrat Lieberman for running mate.

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#4 Post by SportsFan68 » Thu Aug 28, 2008 7:51 am

Word on the (16th) Street was that McCain would announce his VP pick Friday.
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#5 Post by BigDrawMan » Thu Aug 28, 2008 8:27 am

thats impossible

joe is going to run for the knesset in 2010

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Re: Lieberman to be McCain's VP choice

#6 Post by Sir_Galahad » Thu Aug 28, 2008 8:41 am

Bob Juch wrote:That's what they say.
"They" lie. IMO, that would be poor choice.
"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing" - Edmund Burke

Perhaps the Hokey Pokey IS what it's all about...

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#7 Post by PlacentiaSoccerMom » Thu Aug 28, 2008 8:51 am

NellyLunatic1980 wrote:Only two things would make next week's Republican Convention exciting:

1. Playing a drinking game during Rudy Giuliani's keynote speech. Take one drink each time Rudy says "September 11th" or "9/11". (Warning: May cause cirrhosis, alcohol poisoning, or death.)

2. Watching the convention floor become apoplectic (sp?) over the nomination of pro-choice, quasi-Democrat Lieberman for running mate.
But who else will the rabid right wingers vote for? Obama?

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#8 Post by Bob Juch » Thu Aug 28, 2008 8:57 am

Sir_Galahad wrote:
Bob Juch wrote:That's what they say.
"They" lie. IMO, that would be poor choice.
I think that's a great choice. Of course I'm voting for Obama.

I believe "them". You heard it here first.

I predict that the voter turnout this year will be a record low.
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#9 Post by themanintheseersuckersuit » Thu Aug 28, 2008 9:12 am

Sir_Galahad wrote:
Bob Juch wrote:That's what they say.
"They" lie. IMO, that would be poor choice.
Sadly, the fact that it would be a poor choice, doesn't tell me much about the likelyhood of McCain actually doing it.
Suitguy is not bitter.

feels he represents the many educated and rational onlookers who believe that the hysterical denouncement of lay scepticism is both unwarranted and counter-productive

The problem, then, is that such calls do not address an opposition audience so much as they signal virtue. They talk past those who need convincing. They ignore actual facts and counterargument. And they are irreparably smug.

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#10 Post by NellyLunatic1980 » Thu Aug 28, 2008 9:20 am

PlacentiaSoccerMom wrote:
NellyLunatic1980 wrote:Only two things would make next week's Republican Convention exciting:

1. Playing a drinking game during Rudy Giuliani's keynote speech. Take one drink each time Rudy says "September 11th" or "9/11". (Warning: May cause cirrhosis, alcohol poisoning, or death.)

2. Watching the convention floor become apoplectic (sp?) over the nomination of pro-choice, quasi-Democrat Lieberman for running mate.
But who else will the rabid right wingers vote for? Obama?
You forgot about Bob Barr. He's a true conservative. I'd love to see him get a good hunk of the right-wing vote in a state like, say, Georgia or North Carolina.

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#11 Post by TheCalvinator24 » Thu Aug 28, 2008 9:22 am

I wouldn't put it past McCain to pick Lieberman, but if he does, I believe you can bet your house that Obama wins in November.
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#12 Post by SportsFan68 » Thu Aug 28, 2008 10:13 am

TheCalvinator24 wrote:I wouldn't put it past McCain to pick Lieberman, but if he does, I believe you can bet your house that Obama wins in November.
Bet the ranch on the Avalanche!

Oops, I mean La Casa on Obama!
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#13 Post by Bob Juch » Thu Aug 28, 2008 10:19 am

I just had another "informed" person tell me it's going to be Tom Ridge.

He's fine with me too. :twisted:
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#14 Post by TheCalvinator24 » Thu Aug 28, 2008 10:25 am

If your "informed" contacts are even close to being right, then it appears that somebody needs to sit down with McCain, look him in the eye, and ask, "Do you really want to be President?" Because if you do, stop toying with the idea of a running-mate who will cause a substantial portion of your base to vote third party or just stay home.
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#15 Post by KillerTomato » Thu Aug 28, 2008 10:46 am

If I were the DNC I'd have an ad all ready asking why the person who came in #2 in the Republican primaries wasn't McCain's choice for a running mate (assuming he chooses someone other than Mitt, which is likely. After all, the Elephants ran an ad asking why Hilary wasn't tapped.

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#16 Post by TheCalvinator24 » Thu Aug 28, 2008 10:51 am

KillerTomato wrote:If I were the DNC I'd have an ad all ready asking why the person who came in #2 in the Republican primaries wasn't McCain's choice for a running mate (assuming he chooses someone other than Mitt, which is likely. After all, the Elephants ran an ad asking why Hilary wasn't tapped.

I think politics just sucks.
What makes you say Mitt came in #2?

Mike Huckabee got more delegates than Romney.

Romney would be another stupid choice, btw.
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#17 Post by gsabc » Thu Aug 28, 2008 10:57 am

I can't see Mitt getting the nod as VP. Cabinet position, yes, Treasury or Commerce. But too slick, too many position changes and still too offensive to many of the core GOPers to be a helpful VP choice.
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#18 Post by sunflower » Thu Aug 28, 2008 11:02 am

I think it all depends what their strategy is. Are they trying to align fully with Republicans and hope that enough will vote to beat the Democrats?

Or are they hoping to schmooze enough of the Hillary-loving Democrats away with quasi-Democrat Lieberman? And hope there isn't too much collateral damage in the way of Republicans jumping ship because of it?

I don't know what they will do or why. I will wait and see. I loved Hillary and that was an easy sell. As a dedicated Lieberman supporter here in CT, it would be tough. I am a registered democrat who seriously dislikes Obama and what some call his "Paris Hilton approach" to politics. So if they're trying to sway me, Lieberman is the only thing that will come close.

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#19 Post by NellyLunatic1980 » Thu Aug 28, 2008 11:11 am

The rumor is that the McCain camp is going to leak the running mate's name just before Obama's acceptance speech tonight. Just like the Obama camp, the McCain camp is gonna capitalize on the latest technology in their announcement. You can get the VP nomination by either Pony Express or telegraph.

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#20 Post by Bob Juch » Thu Aug 28, 2008 11:14 am

sunflower wrote:I think it all depends what their strategy is. Are they trying to align fully with Republicans and hope that enough will vote to beat the Democrats?

Or are they hoping to schmooze enough of the Hillary-loving Democrats away with quasi-Democrat Lieberman? And hope there isn't too much collateral damage in the way of Republicans jumping ship because of it?

I don't know what they will do or why. I will wait and see. I loved Hillary and that was an easy sell. As a dedicated Lieberman supporter here in CT, it would be tough. I am a registered democrat who seriously dislikes Obama and what some call his "Paris Hilton approach" to politics. So if they're trying to sway me, Lieberman is the only thing that will come close.
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#21 Post by NellyLunatic1980 » Thu Aug 28, 2008 11:19 am

sunflower wrote:I am a registered democrat who seriously dislikes Obama and what some call his "Paris Hilton approach" to politics.
He's showing off his vagina to get votes?

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#22 Post by sunflower » Thu Aug 28, 2008 11:20 am

NellyLunatic1980 wrote:
sunflower wrote:I am a registered democrat who seriously dislikes Obama and what some call his "Paris Hilton approach" to politics.
He's showing off his vagina to get votes?
Well that just made me laugh out loud...people stared...it was great! :lol:

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#23 Post by Tocqueville3 » Thu Aug 28, 2008 11:29 am

NellyLunatic1980 wrote:
sunflower wrote:I am a registered democrat who seriously dislikes Obama and what some call his "Paris Hilton approach" to politics.
He's showing off his vagina to get votes?
Nelly owes me new keyboard and he might need to come over here and get Olivia to go back down for her nap because I was laughing too loud.

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#24 Post by nitrah55 » Thu Aug 28, 2008 11:29 am

This is from the NYTimes "Caucus" blog:

SEDONA, Ariz. – Tea-leaf alert! It turns out that the Saturday rally in Senator John McCain’s roll-out tour of a vice-presidential running mates will take place in the early evening. Could it be a clue, given that one of the finalists on Mr. McCain’s shortlist, Senator Joseph I. Lieberman, is an Orthodox Jew who does not work on the Sabbath?

Doors to the rally, at a stadium in Washington, Pa., are supposed to open at 3 p.m. Sundown is not scheduled until 7:55 p.m. It would be a long time to ask people to wait – but the campaign has scheduled John Rich, a country music star, as a warm up act.

Only time will tell….
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#25 Post by KillerTomato » Thu Aug 28, 2008 12:00 pm

TheCalvinator24 wrote:
KillerTomato wrote:If I were the DNC I'd have an ad all ready asking why the person who came in #2 in the Republican primaries wasn't McCain's choice for a running mate (assuming he chooses someone other than Mitt, which is likely. After all, the Elephants ran an ad asking why Hilary wasn't tapped.

I think politics just sucks.
What makes you say Mitt came in #2?

Mike Huckabee got more delegates than Romney.

Romney would be another stupid choice, btw.

Huck got more delegates (270 - 189), but Mitt got more votes (4,525,036 - 4,179,514).
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