What would happen if..? (Political scenario)

[NellyLunatic1980]

It would be ironic if McCain chose Hutchinson to be his running mate, given his lifetime record of anti-woman votes.

EDIT: Nudity® removed.

[MarleysGh0st]

The right of an office-holder to resign should not be assumed. In Great Britain, members of the House of Commons do not have such an automatic right (back from the olden tymes, when the Commons had to stand together against the King)

In the case of the VP posited here, I would argue that her actions would be a violation of her oath of office (somewhat different from the Presidential oath, and identical to that taken by cabinet officers), in the sense that choosing to leave so quickly is not a "well and faithful discharge" as has been sworn to be upheld.

Not that I would force someone to be VP who does not wish to do so, but I would want to make it clear that a resignation must be intended as a complete departure from public life.

Well, Sir G seemed to be hinting at some kind of weird conspiracy theory when he asked this hypothetical.

I think anyone with enough stature to be nominated for the office would take the responsibility seriously and would never resign lightly.

[TheCalvinator24]

It's Hutchison.

The Hutchinsons are from Arkansas. Tim & Asa.

[cindy.wellman]

What happens if the person who is elected President dies before s/he takes office? Does the person who was elected VP automatically assume the Presidency in January?

Thanks for asking this question yesterday. I brought it up at dinner last night so that all of us could talk about it.

[Here's Fanny!]

Allen Drury wrote about this back in the 60s. His most famous book was Advise and Consent but he followed it up with a series of books that were "sequals" to A&C, one of which featured the death of a candidate after nomination by the party but before Election Day. Interestingly Preserve and Protect (the book featuring the death of the candidate (the President), ends with the new presidential and vice-presidential candidates at a rally, and one of the two men is assassinated. Drury then wrote TWO sequals, depicting what would have happened based on which man survived - The Promise of Joy and Come Nineveh, Come Tyre.

I read this whole series of Cold War political thrillers when I was a teenager. You, too, ear?

Yeah.

Spoiler

Wikipedia doesn't have entries for Come Nineveh, Come Tyre or The Promise of Joy; was it the latter which had the Soviet Union overthrown, the Chinese Red Army invading Russia, and the U.S. President siding with the new Russian government at the end of the in some manner that wasn't spelled out, but which I guessed to involve launching nukes against those invading Chinese?

Spoiler

Preserve and Protect ended with the candidates at a rally; one was assassinated, the other lived. In Come Nineveh, Come Tyre it was the VP candidate (the governor of California) who survived. He was weak and malleable and throughout the book the Soviet Union pushed him around, even invading Alaska. In the end he and the VP ended up committing suicide and were replaced by the Speaker of the House, who was in bed with the Soviets all along. In The Promise of Joy it was the presidential candidate (a conservative) that survived. The Soviets and the Chinese launched attacks against the US in Africa and elsewhere but the president stood firm and eventually the two Communist nations exchanged nuclear attacks. Both appealed to the US and the UN for mediation after overthrowing their governments and becoming "The United States of Russia" and "The United Chinese Republic". In the end, however, they went back to war, with the Chinese looking as if they were going to win. The US president announced that he would send troops to intervene but didn't say on which side, which was a cliffhanger for the next book (which never came).

Just what exactly IS the statute of limitations on spoilers, anyway?

Hey! Did you hear about the Roman Empire?

Spoiler

It fell.

[andrewjackson]

I read this whole series of Cold War political thrillers when I was a teenager. You, too, ear?

Yeah.

Spoiler

Wikipedia doesn't have entries for Come Nineveh, Come Tyre or The Promise of Joy; was it the latter which had the Soviet Union overthrown, the Chinese Red Army invading Russia, and the U.S. President siding with the new Russian government at the end of the in some manner that wasn't spelled out, but which I guessed to involve launching nukes against those invading Chinese?

Spoiler

Preserve and Protect ended with the candidates at a rally; one was assassinated, the other lived. In Come Nineveh, Come Tyre it was the VP candidate (the governor of California) who survived. He was weak and malleable and throughout the book the Soviet Union pushed him around, even invading Alaska. In the end he and the VP ended up committing suicide and were replaced by the Speaker of the House, who was in bed with the Soviets all along. In The Promise of Joy it was the presidential candidate (a conservative) that survived. The Soviets and the Chinese launched attacks against the US in Africa and elsewhere but the president stood firm and eventually the two Communist nations exchanged nuclear attacks. Both appealed to the US and the UN for mediation after overthrowing their governments and becoming "The United States of Russia" and "The United Chinese Republic". In the end, however, they went back to war, with the Chinese looking as if they were going to win. The US president announced that he would send troops to intervene but didn't say on which side, which was a cliffhanger for the next book (which never came).

Just what exactly IS the statute of limitations on spoilers, anyway?

Hey! Did you hear about the Roman Empire?

Spoiler

It fell.

Awww, man! I had that on my Tivo but I couldn't resist clicking.

I guess that will free up a few hundred years on the hard drive now that I know how it turns out.

[MarleysGh0st]

Just what exactly IS the statute of limitations on spoilers, anyway?

The person who includes a gratuitous spoiler in her sig line is asking this?

[etaoin22]

GOK what is supposed to be spoilage

Spoiler

Troy fell, too

I bought the Chapman version last week -- the on looking into one -- as 2 books in a 3 for $10. I find I can chant much of the versification to Desolation Row.

Spoiler

Odysseus took a long time to get home, as well. Even tho' Ezra Pound and T.S.Eliot were not fighting in the captain's tower.