Mr. K, Do Libertarians give awards?

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Mr. K, Do Libertarians give awards?

#1 Post by themanintheseersuckersuit » Sun Aug 17, 2008 3:23 pm

If so juror Thomas Eddlem deserves some kind of nomination.
Suitguy is not bitter.

feels he represents the many educated and rational onlookers who believe that the hysterical denouncement of lay scepticism is both unwarranted and counter-productive

The problem, then, is that such calls do not address an opposition audience so much as they signal virtue. They talk past those who need convincing. They ignore actual facts and counterargument. And they are irreparably smug.

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#2 Post by TheConfessor » Sun Aug 17, 2008 4:08 pm

I'm sure the defendant appreciated the juror getting himself kicked off the jury so the guilty verdict could be rubber stamped by an alternate, instead of hanging in against the other 11 jurors to prevent a guilty verdict.

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#3 Post by TheCalvinator24 » Sun Aug 17, 2008 4:32 pm

TheConfessor wrote:I'm sure the defendant appreciated the juror getting himself kicked off the jury so the guilty verdict could be rubber stamped by an alternate, instead of hanging in against the other 11 jurors to prevent a guilty verdict.
Well, that would just have resulted in another trial.

Not sure how this will play out in the Federal Courts, but I'm pretty sure that in Texas State courts, the Judge removing a Juror under these circumstances would result in a reversal and the order of a New Trial.
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#4 Post by mrkelley23 » Sun Aug 17, 2008 7:22 pm

Very interesting. I'm also glad to see that Indiana is one of those states where jury nullification is clearly spelled out as a possibility in jury trials.

And the man's argument is classic Libertarianism (Capital intended). I'm not real comfortable with the national party's stance on across-the-board legalization of all drugs, so I can't say I would've done what he did. But I can admire it.
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