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Hi from Lyn Payne

#1 Post by LynPayne » Sun Nov 04, 2007 9:20 am

Hi, it's really me. :)

So sorry about the Bored problem you guys had. You sure are lucky writers save everything they write, so I've re-pasted my original message to you at the end of this one. ;)

Thanks so much to everyone here for all of the warm welcomes and wishes. This is obviously a very friendly and helpful group. I'll try to drop by and play with you whenever I get a chance. Right now, I'm looking at weeks ahead of me filled with zillions of writing projects, deadlines, and jangling phones. But before I make that my final answer, I want to share something I adore that I think you will all like:

Go to www.bbc.co.uk/radio4 and click on the pink button for "Comedy/Quizzes" and listen to audiocasts of the BBC quiz show "Brain of Britain." It comes on once a week, and the questions are very like those found in Millionaire's and Jeopardy!s upper levels. Most are not Brit-specific, and I think the information would be very helpful to anyone studying for a U.S. quiz show. Plus it's great fun, with lots of dry wit and humour [sic], especially when the Brits try to figure out American pop culture questions. :)

With all my best to all of you on the Bored,
Lyn

And here's my original post:

Hi, Guys!

So, I was googling myself, and POW! I see the lovely remarks on this bored. Thanks so much to everyone for all the kind words about my Millionaire appearance. It's especially flattering considering that I recognize several of your names from Quiz Show Fameland. I'm thrilled that you think I gave you good TV. ;)

Our mutual friend Leszek is indeed a gentleman, a scholar, and an all-around fabulous person to have in your corner, and I want to publicly thank him for being there for me. The reason he took so long to answer that ^%$#@ cat question was entirely because of me: We'd already strategized how we'd do it, but I couldn't spell "cat." ;)

And I also want to thank the wonderful Bob Harris, whose lovely comments on his blog I treasure, and to whose knowledge of "The Compleat Angler" I owe my Jeopardy! Waterloo. :)

Since this is a group that will appreciate the particulars, here you go:

About the aforementioned ^&*$@# cat question: Linguistically, I knew it had to be Egypt, since "Caffre" I associate with Africa and Egypt, and I think it's related to the highly derogatory term "kaffir" used to refer to African peoples. I also knew that cats were worshipped in Egypt, the whole nine yards. But there were a couple of problems for me here:

1) I was the last person to play that day, and I'd spent the day in the green room watching person after person (whose shows won't air until later, since for obvious reasons they bumped me up to November) get the most foul, strange and unnatural questions at the $16K, $25K, and I think even $8K levels. None of us in the green room knew them, and we were a well-rounded bunch. I can't mention the content, since those shows haven't aired, but they felt so wrong and so complicated for those levels to me. If you watched Brian Cervantez, whose show aired Nov. 2, he had a $4K question that flummoxed me in the same way--it just seemed way too complicated for that level. (Brian, by the way, is an extremely bright guy and incredibly sweet, and I hurt right along with him when he made that mathematical miscalculation and went back to $1K--that's the kind of thing I paranoidedly tried to avoid doing, hence my cat fiasco.) Several of these questions dealt with words I'd never heard of, and to a writer that made them seem really extreme. I was already leery of questions at this level, since my strengths are for the literary/historical/humanities questions that tend to appear higher. So I had thoroughly convinced myself to expect some real zingers on the way to $25K.

2) Since I knew I'd likely have an easier ride after $25K than before, my pre-planned strategy was to do whatever I had to do to get to that anchor, and know that anything after that was extra. That included burning off all my lifelines if that's what it took.

3) I'm a low-paid writer, I have two kids, and the love of money being the root of all evil, I had to make absolutely sure I stayed in the game.

Had the cat question appeared at $4K, I would have said Egypt without hesitation--but at $8K, even though I knew that's what it logically had to be, I'd never specifically heard of a Caffre cat, and I just couldn't risk it being something such as: Rome conquered Egypt and took over the name to identify an Egyptian breed brought to Rome. Or it could be a Chinese term I'd just never encountered. -- I actually did have enough sense to rule out the Aztecs. :)

I knew I might need the audience at $16 or $25K for one of those off-the-wall pop culture questions, and I feared the 50/50 would leave Rome and Egypt, so I had only one option left: Have someone google it.
Which really was a mediocre way to play, since I wasted the brilliant Leszek at $8K. I agonized (in footage the show edited out) and at one point basically said, Oh this is just stupid, I'm going to say Egypt ... but I couldn't bring myself to say "Final Answer."

The horrible part is that I had to wait overnight for the show to be continued, and I wandered about Manhattan and Brooklyn calling myself an idiot and thinking I was completely out of the running for anything great.

But, as Scarlett O'Hara said: Tomorrow is another day.

And the Lyn Payne questions kept coming and coming...

And I really also wasted my 50/50 on the Georgia question, since I could almost picture the map exactly, but thinking now that I stood no chance to come anywhere near the million, I decided to go for a lot more caution than the question warranted. (Maybe someone just moved Chechnya and didn't tell me?)

So, had I not burned off those two, what would have happened? I'd have had them for the million dollar question, halved the choices, asked the audience, and finally phoned Leszek. He's told me since that he wouldn't have known it without a google, but I'm sure he could have done it with only two choices. The problem is, that unless those 30 seconds gave him time to find it in a source I considered iron-clad, there was no way I'd have risked answering anyway. So it might not have mattered. But, yes, it will always haunt me.

It was truly a great experience and a life-changing amount of money, and the publicity has been lots of fun. And Meredith is an absolute joy, professional, completely genuine, and as kind to the contestants as she seems when you watch at home.

If you want to see a couple of interviews my local TV station did with me, one after the first day of play and the other after the second, go to www.wftv.com and scroll down to the "IWitness" section. There I explain a bit of what I just told you.

When I did Jeop! and when I did Millionaire, my philosophy :) was always to play my own game, not someone else's. I had to strategize and think my way through that stack in a way that was unique to me. The best advice I can give you guys is to do the same. You really must know yourself, plan ahead, prepare as best you can, and be very comfortable playing the game only you can play--I did, so I don't regret a minute of it.


XOXO,
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#2 Post by silvercamaro » Sun Nov 04, 2007 9:30 am

Welcome to the Bored*, Lyn. You were a superb contestant, who was fun to watch. Enjoy your winnings!




*If you're wondering, that "Bored" is one of several intentional misspellings you may discover around here.

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#3 Post by ulysses5019 » Sun Nov 04, 2007 9:31 am

Hi......and no, this is not Leszek.....but he was my PAF when I was on the show. Congratulations on your appearance and welcome to the bored (sic).
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#4 Post by peacock2121 » Sun Nov 04, 2007 10:06 am

Great to have you come and share your thoughts and mindset and especially advice with us.

Congratulations on running your stack!

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#5 Post by lilyvonschtupp26 » Sun Nov 04, 2007 10:23 am

Hi Lyn,

I have been in the same boat and replayed my stack in my head, over and over again. I think you did the only thing you could do. You had to get to the point where you could SEE the million dollar question.

You played beautifully.

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#6 Post by SportsFan68 » Sun Nov 04, 2007 10:31 am

An excellent report and an excellent game, Lyn. Thanks for stopping by.
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#7 Post by PlacentiaSoccerMom » Sun Nov 04, 2007 10:35 am

Congratulations on doing so well on the show.

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#8 Post by thguy65 » Sun Nov 04, 2007 11:10 am

Thanks for sharing your experience with us. It was great to watch you play the game so well. Enjoy the big fat check!

Tim H. (another previous Leszek beneficiary).

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#9 Post by Bob78164 » Sun Nov 04, 2007 12:11 pm

Congratulations, Lyn, and welcome to the Bored! We hope you stick around.

One thing I should mention. It is entirely possible that your thread will receive comments from a Merry Man called MyBigFatFabulousBrain. Please be aware that those comments are intended to send up know-it-all commentators, not the contestants. --Bob
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#10 Post by Bob Juch » Sun Nov 04, 2007 12:27 pm

Congratulations! We hope you'll hang around here!

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#11 Post by kayrharris » Sun Nov 04, 2007 2:02 pm

Glad you found us and took the time to give us details of your experience.

Congratulations on a job well done.

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#12 Post by MarleysGh0st » Sun Nov 04, 2007 2:31 pm

Welcome, Lyn, and thanks for that behind-the-scenes report!

And please stick around. You'll find a lot of us--those who have been on the show and those who haven't (yet)--who understand the highs and lows of the game show experience better than anyone.
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#13 Post by Shade » Sun Nov 04, 2007 3:24 pm

Congratulations Lyn, I truly enjoyed watching you. It was the best episode of WWTBAM since Ogi Ogas. I hope you get an invitation to Grand Slam, I think you'd be great on it considering you've been on Jeopardy and Millionaire.

I liked how you called any question you knew or you were able to figure out "Lyn Payne questions" that made me smile :)

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#14 Post by moonie » Sun Nov 04, 2007 6:41 pm

Lyn

Just a note to say CONGRATULATIONS on your wonderful appearance and experience, something that will last a lifetime (besides all that loot).


Your strategy was so well thought-out, a great backstory indeed (we all love backstories around here!).

Hope you stick around.
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#15 Post by hermillion » Sun Nov 04, 2007 6:52 pm

Welcome to the Bored, Lyn! You played a terrific game, and your written account was a great read.

I hope you stick around to play with us. You'll be a great addition.!
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#16 Post by mellytu74 » Sun Nov 04, 2007 6:55 pm

LynPayne -

Welcome aboard. Stay awhile. A fine job on the show.

The Boyfriend remembered you from Jeopardy and was rooting for you -- "the lady, she knows so much stuff," was the exact phrase.

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#17 Post by gsabc » Sun Nov 04, 2007 7:53 pm

Adding my congratulations, Lyn, and offering the advice my father gave me on buying and selling stock which also applies here:

"Never look back." Make your decision and don't look back at the might-have-beens.

You played a great game. The vast majority of players never get to see the $1MM question, so you're in an elite group. Stick around and become a regular along with the other half- and full-millionaires and other winners who frequent the Bored (and the hopefuls, including myself, waiting for our turn in the hot seat). We occasionally have our arguments and hissy fits, but we don't bite. Not hard, anyway.
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Rats!

#18 Post by earendel » Mon Nov 05, 2007 6:36 am

Sorry I missed what Lyn had to say - would anyone care to recap her comments on using the PAF so early?
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Re: Hi from Lyn Payne

#19 Post by themanintheseersuckersuit » Mon Nov 05, 2007 6:54 am

LynPayne wrote: I sincerely apologize. I hope the other moderators will be careful to avoid this pitfall. I have taken a strong hands off policy on editing other people's posts, so it is embarrassing to unintentionally become the worst offender.

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feels he represents the many educated and rational onlookers who believe that the hysterical denouncement of lay scepticism is both unwarranted and counter-productive

The problem, then, is that such calls do not address an opposition audience so much as they signal virtue. They talk past those who need convincing. They ignore actual facts and counterargument. And they are irreparably smug.

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#20 Post by kayrharris » Mon Nov 05, 2007 7:20 am

Didn't she say something about posting the same thing at another forum somewhere? I can't remember what it was though, or else I just made that up. :shock:

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Re: Hi from Lyn Payne

#21 Post by littlebeast13 » Mon Nov 05, 2007 7:25 am

TheConfessor wrote:This post was deleted by mistake. I am terribly sorry. I was merely trying to welcome Lyn to the board and extend my congratulations. I tried to quote part of her post and comment on some of the things she said. When I submitted my reply, I was shocked to see that I had overwritten her original post. Apparently, I accidentally hit the "edit" button instead of the "quote" button, which is right next to it, for all forum moderators. This is very easy to do without realizing it.

If anyone knows how to restore Lyn's original post, or if Lyn can repost her comments, please do.

I sincerely apologize. I hope the other moderators will be careful to avoid this pitfall. I have taken a strong hands off policy on editing other people's posts, so it is embarrassing to unintentionally become the worst offender.

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Unfortunately, I have come close to doing that several times. The edit button is way too close to the Quote button for my comfort....

Then there is also the IP button....

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#22 Post by minimetoo26 » Mon Nov 05, 2007 8:42 am

Okay, so I'm totally confused (I know--big surprise...)

This Lyn Payne says Merry Man, so it's not really Lyn Payne?

And Confessor, being a moderator, tried to reply but accidentally hit edit instead? You guys can do that?

And what about Naomi?

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#23 Post by MarleysGh0st » Mon Nov 05, 2007 8:49 am

minimetoo26 wrote:Okay, so I'm totally confused (I know--big surprise...)

This Lyn Payne says Merry Man, so it's not really Lyn Payne?

And Confessor, being a moderator, tried to reply but accidentally hit edit instead? You guys can do that?

And what about Naomi?
The real Lyn Payne posted a very nice message to us. The Confessor, having the powers of a Moderator, accidentally hit the "Edit" button instead of the "Reply" button to her post, thereby deleting what she had written before he realized it. (The rest of us only see the "Edit" button on our own posts.) I believe he added the Merry Man title, which isn't quite accurate, just to indicate that it's not her own words there, anymore.

Maybe that title should be "Apologetic Moderator".



And I still don't know about Naomi...

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#24 Post by littlebeast13 » Mon Nov 05, 2007 8:50 am

MarleysGh0st wrote:
minimetoo26 wrote:Okay, so I'm totally confused (I know--big surprise...)

This Lyn Payne says Merry Man, so it's not really Lyn Payne?

And Confessor, being a moderator, tried to reply but accidentally hit edit instead? You guys can do that?

And what about Naomi?
The real Lyn Payne posted a very nice message to us. The Confessor, having the powers of a Moderator, accidentally hit the "Edit" button instead of the "Reply" button to her post, thereby deleting what she had written before he realized it. (The rest of us only see the "Edit" button on our own posts.) I believe he added the Merry Man title, which isn't quite accurate, just to indicate that it's not her own words there, anymore.

Maybe that title should be "Apologetic Moderator".



And I still don't know about Naomi...

No, I added the MM title yesterday evening....

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#25 Post by minimetoo26 » Mon Nov 05, 2007 8:52 am

littlebeast13 wrote:
MarleysGh0st wrote:
minimetoo26 wrote:Okay, so I'm totally confused (I know--big surprise...)

This Lyn Payne says Merry Man, so it's not really Lyn Payne?

And Confessor, being a moderator, tried to reply but accidentally hit edit instead? You guys can do that?

And what about Naomi?
The real Lyn Payne posted a very nice message to us. The Confessor, having the powers of a Moderator, accidentally hit the "Edit" button instead of the "Reply" button to her post, thereby deleting what she had written before he realized it. (The rest of us only see the "Edit" button on our own posts.) I believe he added the Merry Man title, which isn't quite accurate, just to indicate that it's not her own words there, anymore.

Maybe that title should be "Apologetic Moderator".



And I still don't know about Naomi...

No, I added the MM title yesterday evening....

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