New Changes to WWTBAM

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Snaxx · #26 Post by **Snaxx** » Mon Jul 28, 2008 4:03 pm

LastMinuteRequest wrote:
NellyLunatic1980 wrote:I sure hope these "exciting changes" give us more big winners.
Warning: Definitely *not* a spoiler below, but it could be an annoyer...

My impression was that the changes might make it easier to get to the $25,000-$100,000 range than before, but to be honest, I think they make it dramatically less likely that someone will ever get the halfmillion or million.

And who knows... maybe that was their intention? I bet Michael Davies will eventually talk about his motivation.

I thought their goal has been the opposite, to make it harder to reach 25K and to have many $1000-ish winners. This so they could afford to pay out the $250K/500K/1M once in a while. I remember hearing (was it Davies himself) that the problem with much of the first season or two was less the two $1M winners but more too many $64K-range winners drying up the budget. Hence the more difficult $8K-25K questions, the lowering of the $25K-100K prizes, and the STQ available only above 25K.

Maybe they are thinking the time limit will weed out more of the weak, and think the strong will go for the $250K questions in spite of the time limit.

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LastMinuteRequest · #27 Post by **LastMinuteRequest** » Mon Jul 28, 2008 4:12 pm

jacorbett70 wrote:
Maybe they are thinking the time limit will weed out more of the weak, and think the strong will go for the $250K questions in spite of the time limit.

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I have the sneaking suspicion that they might throw out the time limit completely, or else add on more time. Even the strong need time to figure out difficult questions, of the kind others have noted -- "What is the most common presidential first name?" or "Which of the following have not won an Oscar, Emmy, and Grammy?" Who would ever pull the trigger on a big money question like that in 60 seconds?

And I feel like that's what differentiates Millionaire from other quiz shows, like Jeopardy, which emphasize speedy recall. Watching the contestants try to figure it out, and squirm, is a big part of the fun.

#28 Post by **eyégor** » Mon Jul 28, 2008 4:23 pm

My feeling -

If the institute a clock, Millionaire is dead to me. Jeopardy is a much better rapid recall game. The WWTBAM allure has always been the waiting, the weighing, the second guessing.

Add a clock and I wash my hands of it.

Almost makes me glad I didn't waste a day auditioning this year.

Snaxx · #29 Post by **Snaxx** » Mon Jul 28, 2008 4:26 pm

LastMinuteRequest wrote:
jacorbett70 wrote:
Maybe they are thinking the time limit will weed out more of the weak, and think the strong will go for the $250K questions in spite of the time limit.

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I have the sneaking suspicion that they might throw out the time limit completely, or else add on more time. Even the strong need time to figure out difficult questions, of the kind others have noted -- "What is the most common presidential first name?" or "Which of the following have not won an Oscar, Emmy, and Grammy?" Who would ever pull the trigger on a big money question like that in 60 seconds?

And I feel like that's what differentiates Millionaire from other quiz shows, like Jeopardy, which emphasize speedy recall. Watching the contestants try to figure it out, and squirm, is a big part of the fun.

I definitely agree. They are also dealing with potentially life-changing money amounts, and also with loved ones and financial situations that could drive their decision-making.

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AlphaDummy · #30 Post by **AlphaDummy** » Mon Jul 28, 2008 4:43 pm

For my money, one of the most memorable moments to date from the Syndie show was when the college kid recited the Pledge of Allegiance over and over again to count the number of words - and kept coming up with a different total. It was one of the funniest things I had ever seen on the show...and it would never have happened had there been a clock in place.

They had safeguards in place previously - the ability to trim out dead spots and (if need be) The Warning.

We will see...............

MarleysGh0st · #31 Post by **MarleysGh0st** » Mon Jul 28, 2008 5:44 pm

LastMinuteRequest wrote: And I feel like that's what differentiates Millionaire from other quiz shows, like Jeopardy, which emphasize speedy recall. Watching the contestants try to figure it out, and squirm, is a big part of the fun.

Absolutely.

And bantering about the questions, not about what I do for fun or how I want to spend the money or any of those other application questions, is what I've always wanted to do. Any show can chit-chat.

PlacentiaSoccerMom · #32 Post by **PlacentiaSoccerMom** » Mon Jul 28, 2008 5:59 pm

I feel sorry for anyone who gets on the 3 Generations show, the time limit is going to make it very difficult!

Bob Juch · #33 Post by **Bob Juch** » Mon Jul 28, 2008 6:05 pm

PlacentiaSoccerMom wrote:I feel sorry for anyone who gets on the 3 Generations show, the time limit is going to make it very difficult!

I know some folks who can handle that.

Bob Juch · #34 Post by **Bob Juch** » Mon Jul 28, 2008 6:06 pm

Anyone who is a good NTN player can handle a time clock. Those of us who play on teams have gotten rather good at consulting under pressure.

chad1m · #35 Post by **chad1m** » Mon Jul 28, 2008 6:33 pm

It's definitely possible to play well within a time limit (NTN players, quiz bowlers have proven this), but I just don't think it's necessary for the show. I don't mind the removal/replacing/switching out of lifelines, but the idea that you can take "forever" to think about a question adds so much to the show. Gone now are the "I think it's B final an---, no C, wait A" moments which were unique to the program.

takinover · #36 Post by **takinover** » Mon Jul 28, 2008 7:42 pm

NellyLunatic1980 wrote:I sure hope these "exciting changes" give us more big winners. This show is not called "Who Wants to Win $16,000?" or "Who Wants to Win $50,000?" (no offense to Greyhound, TKO, or anybody else on the Bored who has won those amounts).

This brings back painful memories. I could barely look my banker in the eyes as I asked him to deposit the check

silvercamaro · #37 Post by **silvercamaro** » Mon Jul 28, 2008 7:48 pm

takinover wrote:
NellyLunatic1980 wrote:I sure hope these "exciting changes" give us more big winners. This show is not called "Who Wants to Win $16,000?" or "Who Wants to Win $50,000?" (no offense to Greyhound, TKO, or anybody else on the Bored who has won those amounts).
This brings back painful memories. I could barely look my banker in the eyes as I asked him to deposit the check

LOL! Hey, I have an idea for a whole new game show, with contestants selected exclusively from people who've never been on any other game show. I might call it "Who Wants to Have Delusions of Grandeur? or "Whose Hubris?"

MarleysGh0st · #38 Post by **MarleysGh0st** » Mon Jul 28, 2008 8:04 pm

silvercamaro wrote: LOL! Hey, I have an idea for a whole new game show, with contestants selected exclusively from people who've never been on any other game show. I might call it "Who Wants to Have Delusions of Grandeur? or "Whose Hubris?"

Sign me up!

Do I still need a telegenic personality for that one?

ulysses5019 · #39 Post by **ulysses5019** » Tue Jul 29, 2008 3:10 am

MarleysGh0st wrote:
silvercamaro wrote: LOL! Hey, I have an idea for a whole new game show, with contestants selected exclusively from people who've never been on any other game show. I might call it "Who Wants to Have Delusions of Grandeur? or "Whose Hubris?"
Sign me up!

Do I still need a telegenic personality for that one?

What do you think?

themanintheseersuckersuit · #40 Post by **themanintheseersuckersuit** » Tue Jul 29, 2008 6:51 am

silvercamaro wrote:
takinover wrote:
NellyLunatic1980 wrote:I sure hope these "exciting changes" give us more big winners. This show is not called "Who Wants to Win $16,000?" or "Who Wants to Win $50,000?" (no offense to Greyhound, TKO, or anybody else on the Bored who has won those amounts).
This brings back painful memories. I could barely look my banker in the eyes as I asked him to deposit the check
LOL! Hey, I have an idea for a whole new game show, with contestants selected exclusively from people who've never been on any other game show. I might call it "Who Wants to Have Delusions of Grandeur? or "Whose Hubris?"

[normcrosby] Hey, I resemble that remark![/nc]

Weyoun · #41 Post by **Weyoun** » Tue Jul 29, 2008 8:19 am

Personally, I don't like the picture for phone a friends. I have been on TV enough.