Hillary offers to be VP!

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Bob Juch · #1 Post by **Bob Juch** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 3:10 pm

The fat lady has really left the building.

ulysses5019 · #2 Post by **ulysses5019** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 3:14 pm

Bob Juch wrote:The fat lady has really left the building.

Heck, I'll offer to be VP. And I won't leave the building.

hf_jai · #3 Post by **hf_jai** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 5:15 pm

Some people will believe anything the corporate news media tells them.

Do you really think Hillary would offer to be VP if she didn't already have the job? And do you really believe for a minute Obama has given her the job?

This is more AP bullshit, probably from some unnamed and unconfirmed source if not made up out of thin air.

Ritterskoop · #4 Post by **Ritterskoop** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 6:06 pm

hf_jai wrote:Some people will believe anything the corporate news media tells them.

Do you really think Hillary would offer to be VP if she didn't already have the job? And do you really believe for a minute Obama has given her the job?

This is more AP bullshit, probably from some unnamed and unconfirmed source if not made up out of thin air.

Is Reuters Canada more trustworthy?

http://ca.reuters.com/article/topNews/i ... 2020080603

or The Guardian:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/ju ... arackobama

I looked for non-U.S. sources in case that helps. I find AP pretty much trustworthy but maybe this will work better if you don't like them.

I don't mean that snarky, for real.

#5 Post by **Bob78164** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 6:15 pm

hf_jai wrote:Some people will believe anything the corporate news media tells them.

Do you really think Hillary would offer to be VP if she didn't already have the job? And do you really believe for a minute Obama has given her the job?

This is more AP bullshit, probably from some unnamed and unconfirmed source if not made up out of thin air.

As I understand it, the current story is that she was asked (I think by Nita Lowry), at either a meeting or conference call of New York's Democratic congressional representatives, whether she would accept the vice presidential spot if it were offered to her. Her campaign says that her answer was that she'd do whatever she was asked to help the ticket win in November. --Bob

Ritterskoop · #6 Post by **Ritterskoop** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 6:17 pm

Bob78164 wrote: Her campaign says that her answer was that she'd do whatever she was asked to help the ticket win in November. --Bob

This is not news, in my estimation. She has been saying this for a while. Not specifically about the VP part, but she and Obama have both said they would campaign for the other, once it is decided.

hf_jai · #7 Post by **hf_jai** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 6:30 pm

Ritterskoop wrote:
Bob78164 wrote: Her campaign says that her answer was that she'd do whatever she was asked to help the ticket win in November. --Bob
This is not news, in my estimation. She has been saying this for a while. Not specifically about the VP part, but she and Obama have both said they would campaign for the other, once it is decided.

This I'll buy. The other was worded to make her sound like a 15yo waiting for an invitation to the dance.

I didn't check the overseas links you gave me, but is there any reason to assume they aren't using AP as their source? Or the same source as AP? I really don't trust much of any of the news media anymore, but AP has been particularly bad since Rupert Murdoch and Sam Zell joined their board of directors.

#8 Post by **Bob78164** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 6:54 pm

hf_jai wrote:Some people will believe anything the corporate news media tells them.

Do you really think Hillary would offer to be VP if she didn't already have the job? And do you really believe for a minute Obama has given her the job?

This is more AP bullshit, probably from some unnamed and unconfirmed source if not made up out of thin air.

Here's the key part of the wire service story:

AP wrote:Clinton's remarks came in response to a question from Democratic Rep. Nydia Velazquez, who said she believed the best way for Obama to win key voting blocs, including Hispanics, would be for him to choose Clinton as his running mate.

"I am open to it," Clinton replied, if it would help the party's prospects in November. Her direct quote was described by two lawmakers who spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak for Clinton.

--Bob

Ritterskoop · #9 Post by **Ritterskoop** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 7:11 pm

hf_jai wrote:
This I'll buy. The other was worded to make her sound like a 15yo waiting for an invitation to the dance.

I didn't check the overseas links you gave me, but is there any reason to assume they aren't using AP as their source? Or the same source as AP? I really don't trust much of any of the news media anymore, but AP has been particularly bad since Rupert Murdoch and Sam Zell joined their board of directors.

I skimmed through them, and it sounded to me like they and AP all heard the same conversation.

I see Fox News as often too far right, and the NY Times sometimes as too far left, but I have thus far been able to trust AP. But I mostly don't read hard news except Time magazine, so I am not the best judge. Also I trust people pretty far. I had not realized AP had a management change, though. Worth keeping an eye out.

BackInTex · #10 Post by **BackInTex** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 6:59 am

I think it would be suicide (literally) for Obama to accept Hillary as his VP.

Not accusing anybody of anything, but throughout the Clinton's political career there have been a number of convenient deaths. Perhaps they are just lucky.

BigDrawMan · #11 Post by **BigDrawMan** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 7:46 am

i dont think bill will pass the background check, especially with the new horndog allegations coming out.
If true. I am glad to see he has upped his standards.Gina Gershon is a big improvement from Monica.

NellyLunatic1980 · #12 Post by **NellyLunatic1980** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 8:32 am

BackInTex wrote:I think it would be suicide (literally) for Obama to accept Hillary as his VP.

Not accusing anybody of anything, but throughout the Clinton's political career there have been a number of convenient deaths. Perhaps they are just lucky.

I, for one, don't trust Hillary to be VP cuz she's just power-hungry enough to do something that would make her become president. There sure as hell ain't a single Republican who is nuts/evil enough to assassinate Obama cuz that would make her president.

wintergreen48 · #13 Post by **wintergreen48** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 9:16 am

NellyLunatic1980 wrote: I, for one, don't trust Hillary to be VP cuz she's just power-hungry enough to do something that would make her become president. There sure as hell ain't a single Republican who is nuts/evil enough to assassinate Obama cuz that would make her president.

Conspiracy types suggested that this is why Nixon picked Agnew for his VP.

Your power-hungry comment is interesting. It seems to me, sometimes, that one reason to disqualify someone for the Presidency is that he/she really really really wants it (all too often, for the wrong reasons); I'd much rather have a President who is doing it because he/she has to (like Washington), or who is called to it because the times require it (like Lincoln).

ne1410s · #14 Post by **ne1410s** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 7:30 pm

I wouldn't mind an "elitist" being President. Eight years of Gomer Pyle is quite enough.

BackInTex · #15 Post by **BackInTex** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 7:43 pm

ne1410s wrote:I wouldn't mind an "elitist" being President. Eight years of Gomer Pyle is quite enough.

I agree, and the eight years after Gomer haven't been so good either. Well, the firs 8 months were O.K.

sunflower · #16 Post by **sunflower** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 7:46 pm

I'm tired of even thinking about it. I feel defeated. I'll vote for whichever candidate will lower gas prices. I paid $4.39/gallon today.

ne1410s · #17 Post by **ne1410s** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 7:46 pm

I agree, and the eight years after Gomer haven't been so good either. Well, the firs 8 months were O.K.

My bad. I always get Gomer and Goober mixed up...

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