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silverscreenselect · #76 Post by **silverscreenselect** » Thu May 22, 2008 8:08 am

mrkelley23 wrote:Maybe this will help lead us to the Tangredi, if it's not it.

Mike SHANNON and CLYDE Tombaugh both have names that correspond to rivers in the UK.

Don CHERRY, Lauren HOLLY, and John BIRCH all could refer to types of trees.

Kenneth MARS and Suzanne VEGA refer to heavenly bodies.

Zach WHEAT and John HAY refer to grasses

And so forth.

I haven't been doing much on this, but I would point out that the instructions indicate that some of the answers are used twice in differenct capacities. Shannon and Clyde, for example, are both rivers, but if that is the way of linking them up than each would be used in the same capacity. It's more probable that the Tangredi involves matching a first name with a last name that is determined by performing some operation on the last name of another person. If that's the case, people with common first names (John, Mike) are far more likely on the list for something about their last name, while people with less common first names (Zach, Dara) might be there to match up with a last name.

mrkelley23 · #77 Post by **mrkelley23** » Thu May 22, 2008 12:37 pm

silverscreenselect wrote:
mrkelley23 wrote:Maybe this will help lead us to the Tangredi, if it's not it.

Mike SHANNON and CLYDE Tombaugh both have names that correspond to rivers in the UK.

Don CHERRY, Lauren HOLLY, and John BIRCH all could refer to types of trees.

Kenneth MARS and Suzanne VEGA refer to heavenly bodies.

Zach WHEAT and John HAY refer to grasses

And so forth.
I haven't been doing much on this, but I would point out that the instructions indicate that some of the answers are used twice in differenct capacities. Shannon and Clyde, for example, are both rivers, but if that is the way of linking them up than each would be used in the same capacity. It's more probable that the Tangredi involves matching a first name with a last name that is determined by performing some operation on the last name of another person. If that's the case, people with common first names (John, Mike) are far more likely on the list for something about their last name, while people with less common first names (Zach, Dara) might be there to match up with a last name.

OR people with two interesting names (like Flora Purim) might be used twice, once for their first name and once for their last name.

LILY Tomlin and Charlie ROSE are both flowers, BTW.

Weyoun · #78 Post by **Weyoun** » Thu May 22, 2008 1:15 pm

This is my thought. I like the idea of matching flowers together, etc. But it's not really *Tangredi.* Tangredi would be connecting Flora (Purim) to the flowers. Tangredi would be finding an anagram in another word that spells out GRAIN, so we could match it with Hay, or RIVER to pair it with Clyde or Shannon. There just doesn't seem to be enough random words in here to pair them off based on these ideas we're tossing out.

mellytu74 · #79 Post by **mellytu74** » Fri May 23, 2008 9:15 am

There's a lot of possible first names as last names, too -- Ross, Bartholomew, Miranda, Grant, Jordan.

But probably not enough to be significant.

And I still think that GroganGame as one word might give us a clue that we just aren't seeing.

mrkelley23 · #80 Post by **mrkelley23** » Mon May 26, 2008 8:27 am

On the one unsolved clue:

I think it's the bridge section of WYWUAS that's the allusion. "Fate is kind, she brings to those who love the sweet fulfillment of etc. etc." It's the three note signature of "those who love" and "fulfillment of" that remind me of some classical piece, but I can't quite come up with it!

I'm wanting to say one of the Russians, but I have no rational basis for that.

mrkelley23 · #81 Post by **mrkelley23** » Mon May 26, 2008 8:44 am

Also, since it is a GroganGame, I was playing around with anagrams, and noticed not only how many anagrammable words there are, but how many of them can form words with the letter combination RE in them. TORRES becomes RESORT, TURNER becomes RETURN, PORTER becomes REPORT, etc.

Here are some of the other stray thoughts I have had -- maybe they'll jog something loose in someone else's head:

Some of the names suggest landmarks: Eiffel TOWER, PIKE's peak, Garden of EDEN, GRANT's Tomb,

Purim is a Jewish holiday that is celebrated in the month of ADAR, and we have DARA Torres on the list.

Henry (not Helen) FIELDING wrote Tom (not Paula) JONES.

Lots of names that are not only words, as someone else pointed out, but words that have easy opposites, or other paired words, like white/black, east/west, war/peace, Monday/Friday, etc.

#82 Post by **Bob78164** » Mon May 26, 2008 1:16 pm

mrkelley23 wrote:Also, since it is a GroganGame, I was playing around with anagrams, and noticed not only how many anagrammable words there are, but how many of them can form words with the letter combination RE in them. TORRES becomes RESORT, TURNER becomes RETURN, PORTER becomes REPORT, etc.

For what it's worth, note also that each of these words is also a word without the "re." --Bob

NellyLunatic1980 · #83 Post by **NellyLunatic1980** » Thu May 29, 2008 12:47 pm

mrkelley23 wrote:On the one unsolved clue:

I think it's the bridge section of WYWUAS that's the allusion. "Fate is kind, she brings to those who love the sweet fulfillment of etc. etc." It's the three note signature of "those who love" and "fulfillment of" that remind me of some classical piece, but I can't quite come up with it!

I'm wanting to say one of the Russians, but I have no rational basis for that.

To me, the first "three-note signature" that pops into my head is Johann Pachelbel's "Canon in D Minor".

It's not much, but it's all I have in an attempt to get somewhere in this Grogan.

smilergrogan · #84 Post by **smilergrogan** » Thu May 29, 2008 1:38 pm

Here's an expanded version of the unsolved clue. I am confident that someone will get the Tangredi soon.

70. This composer's best-loved work is alluded to in the melody of "When You Wish Upon a Star"; the piece also appears in the title of a Tony-nominated play (and in the play itself), but the 1991 film adaptation dropped the name of the piece in shortening the play's title.

Catfish · #85 Post by **Catfish** » Thu May 29, 2008 1:50 pm

smilergrogan wrote:Here's an expanded version of the unsolved clue. I am confident that someone will get the Tangredi soon.

70. This composer's best-loved work is alluded to in the melody of "When You Wish Upon a Star"; the piece also appears in the title of a Tony-nominated play (and in the play itself), but the 1991 film adaptation dropped the name of the piece in shortening the play's title.

Debussy?

mellytu74 · #86 Post by **mellytu74** » Thu May 29, 2008 2:39 pm

Catfish wrote:
smilergrogan wrote:Here's an expanded version of the unsolved clue. I am confident that someone will get the Tangredi soon.

70. This composer's best-loved work is alluded to in the melody of "When You Wish Upon a Star"; the piece also appears in the title of a Tony-nominated play (and in the play itself), but the 1991 film adaptation dropped the name of the piece in shortening the play's title.
Debussy?

Makes sense - Frankie & Johnny in the Claire deLune.

#87 Post by **littlebeast13** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 5:18 am

So, what's the status here after 3 weeks? This thread's been idle for 6 days.

With the QoD back in action, we need a resolution of some kind to this game so we can unsticky it...

Mr. Grogan? Players?

NellyLunatic1980 · #88 Post by **NellyLunatic1980** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 5:50 am

I conceded this Grogan a long time ago. It hurt my brain too much.

mrkelley23 · #89 Post by **mrkelley23** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 3:03 pm

I'd sure like to keep working on it, but I haven't been able to come up with anything better than what I've posted so far. I know it's a pain with the QoD running, but there's no other game currently running, so the most stickies we should have at any one time is four, or so, right? I don't think that's too unreasonable, unless we get another game going.

franktangredi · #90 Post by **franktangredi** » Thu Jun 05, 2008 6:47 am

mrkelley23 wrote:I'd sure like to keep working on it, but I haven't been able to come up with anything better than what I've posted so far. I know it's a pain with the QoD running, but there's no other game currently running, so the most stickies we should have at any one time is four, or so, right? I don't think that's too unreasonable, unless we get another game going.

I have a game ready, but I am not going to post it until this one is solved.

franktangredi · #91 Post by **franktangredi** » Thu Jun 05, 2008 7:00 am

Smiler has implied that it is significant that so many of the names are also words or place names. We need 37 sets, and I’ve identified 39 possible words/places, so it certainly seems feasible.

He’s also said that he didn’t include an Associated Words list because that would give it away. I’m wondering if that means that the words and place names ARE the Associated Words list in some way.

Anywhere, here’s my list of possible words or place names that can be culled from the clues. Complete consolidation follows.

4. Fielding
5. Jordan
6. Sherwood
7. Wheat
9. Van
10. White
11. Cherry
12. Fox
17. Mars
19. Lily
20. Birch
21. Buddy
21. Holly
22. Spade
28. Baker
29. Rose
31. Jack
32. London
34. Mike
35. Rice
37. Pope
38. Ginger
40. Wren
44. Monday
49. Prince
50. Purim
51. Bunker
52. Tower
54. Pound
58. Key
65. Grant
67. Bobby
68. Marble
71. Pike
72. Saint
73. Eden
74. Porter
76. Boll
78. Hay

***************************************

Combine the answers to the following 78 questions to make 29 pairs and 8 trios, according to a Tangredi, or principle you must discover. Four answers will be used twice, each in two different capacities.

There will probably be some unanticipated alternate matches, but with any luck everything will clear itself up in the end.

1. Dara Torres
2. George Eastman
3. Jerry Bruckheimer
4. Helen Fielding
5. Barbara Jordan
6. Robert E. Sherwood
7. Zack Wheat
8. John Entwistle
9. Van Morrison
10. William Allen White
11. Don Cherry
12. Terry Fox
13. Bill Freehan
14. Clyde Tombaugh
15. Brian McBride
16. Dionne Warwick
17. Kenneth Mars
18. Malcolm Forbes
19. Lily Tomlin
20. John Birch
21. Buddy Holly
22. Kate Spade
23. Tony Gonzalez
24. Lena Olin
25. Richard Nixon
26. Barbara Walters
27. Carmen Miranda
28. Hobey Baker
29. Charlie Rose
30. Alan Dershowitz
31. Jack Elam
32. Fritz London
33. John Conyers
34. Mike Shannon
35. Condoleezza Rice
36. Gary Coleman
37. Alexander Pope
38. Ginger Rogers
39. Freddie Bartholomew
40. Christopher Wren
41. Margaret Mead
42. Frederick Jackson Turner
43. Steve Wozniak
44. Rick Monday
45. Kim Basinger
46. Henry Hyde
47. Warren Hastings
48. Suzanne Vega
49. Prince
50. Flora Purim
51. Chang & Eng Bunker
52. John Tower
53. Diana Ross
54. Ezra Pound
55. Conway Twitty
56. Tina Weymouth
57. Johnny Carson
58. Francis Scott Key
59. Paula Jones
60. J.R.R. Tolkien
61. James Levine
62. Kevin McHale
63. John Bonham
64. Idi Amin
65. Ulysses S. Grant
66. Jonathan Edwards
67. Bobby Riggs
68. Alice Marble
69. Clarence Thomas
70. Frederic Chopin
71. Zebulon Pike
72. Susan St. James
73. Anthony Eden
74. Katharine Anne Porter
75. Melanie Griffith
77. Josh Bolten
76. Heinrich Boll
78. John Hay

smilergrogan · #92 Post by **smilergrogan** » Thu Jun 05, 2008 9:27 am

Thanks for keeping the game alive. Let's get it solved so Frank can post his next one. All the comments below are reasonable, but where did Chopin come from for #70?

franktangredi wrote:Smiler has implied that it is significant that so many of the names are also words or place names. We need 37 sets, and I’ve identified 39 possible words/places, so it certainly seems feasible.

He’s also said that he didn’t include an Associated Words list because that would give it away. I’m wondering if that means that the words and place names ARE the Associated Words list in some way.

Anywhere, here’s my list of possible words or place names that can be culled from the clues. Complete consolidation follows.

4. Fielding
5. Jordan
6. Sherwood
7. Wheat
9. Van
10. White
11. Cherry
12. Fox
17. Mars
19. Lily
20. Birch
21. Buddy
21. Holly
22. Spade
28. Baker
29. Rose
31. Jack
32. London
34. Mike
35. Rice
37. Pope
38. Ginger
40. Wren
44. Monday
49. Prince
50. Purim
51. Bunker
52. Tower
54. Pound
58. Key
65. Grant
67. Bobby
68. Marble
71. Pike
72. Saint
73. Eden
74. Porter
76. Boll
78. Hay

***************************************

Combine the answers to the following 78 questions to make 29 pairs and 8 trios, according to a Tangredi, or principle you must discover. Four answers will be used twice, each in two different capacities.

There will probably be some unanticipated alternate matches, but with any luck everything will clear itself up in the end.

1. Dara Torres
2. George Eastman
3. Jerry Bruckheimer
4. Helen Fielding
5. Barbara Jordan
6. Robert E. Sherwood
7. Zack Wheat
8. John Entwistle
9. Van Morrison
10. William Allen White
11. Don Cherry
12. Terry Fox
13. Bill Freehan
14. Clyde Tombaugh
15. Brian McBride
16. Dionne Warwick
17. Kenneth Mars
18. Malcolm Forbes
19. Lily Tomlin
20. John Birch
21. Buddy Holly
22. Kate Spade
23. Tony Gonzalez
24. Lena Olin
25. Richard Nixon
26. Barbara Walters
27. Carmen Miranda
28. Hobey Baker
29. Charlie Rose
30. Alan Dershowitz
31. Jack Elam
32. Fritz London
33. John Conyers
34. Mike Shannon
35. Condoleezza Rice
36. Gary Coleman
37. Alexander Pope
38. Ginger Rogers
39. Freddie Bartholomew
40. Christopher Wren
41. Margaret Mead
42. Frederick Jackson Turner
43. Steve Wozniak
44. Rick Monday
45. Kim Basinger
46. Henry Hyde
47. Warren Hastings
48. Suzanne Vega
49. Prince
50. Flora Purim
51. Chang & Eng Bunker
52. John Tower
53. Diana Ross
54. Ezra Pound
55. Conway Twitty
56. Tina Weymouth
57. Johnny Carson
58. Francis Scott Key
59. Paula Jones
60. J.R.R. Tolkien
61. James Levine
62. Kevin McHale
63. John Bonham
64. Idi Amin
65. Ulysses S. Grant
66. Jonathan Edwards
67. Bobby Riggs
68. Alice Marble
69. Clarence Thomas
70. Frederic Chopin
71. Zebulon Pike
72. Susan St. James
73. Anthony Eden
74. Katharine Anne Porter
75. Melanie Griffith
77. Josh Bolten
76. Heinrich Boll
78. John Hay

Catfish · #93 Post by **Catfish** » Thu Jun 05, 2008 9:40 am

smilergrogan wrote:Thanks for keeping the game alive. Let's get it solved so Frank can post his next one. All the comments below are reasonable, but where did Chopin come from for #70?

Good question. I believe I answered "Debussy?" and Melly tipped it in.

franktangredi · #94 Post by **franktangredi** » Thu Jun 05, 2008 9:40 am

smilergrogan wrote:Thanks for keeping the game alive. Let's get it solved so Frank can post his next one. All the comments below are reasonable, but where did Chopin come from for #70?

OOPS, THAT WAS PURELY A BRAIN FART. IT'S DEBUSSY, OF COURSE

franktangredi wrote:Smiler has implied that it is significant that so many of the names are also words or place names. We need 37 sets, and I’ve identified 39 possible words/places, so it certainly seems feasible.

He’s also said that he didn’t include an Associated Words list because that would give it away. I’m wondering if that means that the words and place names ARE the Associated Words list in some way.

Anywhere, here’s my list of possible words or place names that can be culled from the clues. Complete consolidation follows.

4. Fielding
5. Jordan
6. Sherwood
7. Wheat
9. Van
10. White
11. Cherry
12. Fox
17. Mars
19. Lily
20. Birch
21. Buddy
21. Holly
22. Spade
28. Baker
29. Rose
31. Jack
32. London
34. Mike
35. Rice
37. Pope
38. Ginger
40. Wren
44. Monday
49. Prince
50. Purim
51. Bunker
52. Tower
54. Pound
58. Key
65. Grant
67. Bobby
68. Marble
71. Pike
72. Saint
73. Eden
74. Porter
76. Boll
78. Hay

***************************************

Combine the answers to the following 78 questions to make 29 pairs and 8 trios, according to a Tangredi, or principle you must discover. Four answers will be used twice, each in two different capacities.

There will probably be some unanticipated alternate matches, but with any luck everything will clear itself up in the end.

1. Dara Torres
2. George Eastman
3. Jerry Bruckheimer
4. Helen Fielding
5. Barbara Jordan
6. Robert E. Sherwood
7. Zack Wheat
8. John Entwistle
9. Van Morrison
10. William Allen White
11. Don Cherry
12. Terry Fox
13. Bill Freehan
14. Clyde Tombaugh
15. Brian McBride
16. Dionne Warwick
17. Kenneth Mars
18. Malcolm Forbes
19. Lily Tomlin
20. John Birch
21. Buddy Holly
22. Kate Spade
23. Tony Gonzalez
24. Lena Olin
25. Richard Nixon
26. Barbara Walters
27. Carmen Miranda
28. Hobey Baker
29. Charlie Rose
30. Alan Dershowitz
31. Jack Elam
32. Fritz London
33. John Conyers
34. Mike Shannon
35. Condoleezza Rice
36. Gary Coleman
37. Alexander Pope
38. Ginger Rogers
39. Freddie Bartholomew
40. Christopher Wren
41. Margaret Mead
42. Frederick Jackson Turner
43. Steve Wozniak
44. Rick Monday
45. Kim Basinger
46. Henry Hyde
47. Warren Hastings
48. Suzanne Vega
49. Prince
50. Flora Purim
51. Chang & Eng Bunker
52. John Tower
53. Diana Ross
54. Ezra Pound
55. Conway Twitty
56. Tina Weymouth
57. Johnny Carson
58. Francis Scott Key
59. Paula Jones
60. J.R.R. Tolkien
61. James Levine
62. Kevin McHale
63. John Bonham
64. Idi Amin
65. Ulysses S. Grant
66. Jonathan Edwards
67. Bobby Riggs
68. Alice Marble
69. Clarence Thomas
70. Claude Debussy
71. Zebulon Pike
72. Susan St. James
73. Anthony Eden
74. Katharine Anne Porter
75. Melanie Griffith
77. Josh Bolten
76. Heinrich Boll
78. John Hay

silverscreenselect · #95 Post by **silverscreenselect** » Tue Jun 10, 2008 2:55 pm

Since the Smiler has graced us with his presence, perhaps a bit of a hint might bring this puzzle back from the coldest of cold storage???

franktangredi · #96 Post by **franktangredi** » Wed Jun 18, 2008 2:20 pm

I have not given up on this and still look at it from time to time, but no 'aha' moment is forthcoming. Anybody?

The Smiler has commented that 'all the comments below are reasonable.

franktangredi wrote:Smiler has implied that it is significant that so many of the names are also words or place names. We need 37 sets, and I’ve identified 39 possible words/places, so it certainly seems feasible.

He’s also said that he didn’t include an Associated Words list because that would give it away. I’m wondering if that means that the words and place names ARE the Associated Words list in some way.

Anywhere, here’s my list of possible words or place names that can be culled from the clues. Complete consolidation follows.

4. Fielding
5. Jordan
6. Sherwood
7. Wheat
9. Van
10. White
11. Cherry
12. Fox
17. Mars
19. Lily
20. Birch
21. Buddy
21. Holly
22. Spade
28. Baker
29. Rose
31. Jack
32. London
34. Mike
35. Rice
37. Pope
38. Ginger
40. Wren
44. Monday
49. Prince
50. Purim
51. Bunker
52. Tower
54. Pound
58. Key
65. Grant
67. Bobby
68. Marble
71. Pike
72. Saint
73. Eden
74. Porter
76. Boll
78. Hay

***************************************

Combine the answers to the following 78 questions to make 29 pairs and 8 trios, according to a Tangredi, or principle you must discover. Four answers will be used twice, each in two different capacities.

There will probably be some unanticipated alternate matches, but with any luck everything will clear itself up in the end.

1. Dara Torres
2. George Eastman
3. Jerry Bruckheimer
4. Helen Fielding
5. Barbara Jordan
6. Robert E. Sherwood
7. Zack Wheat
8. John Entwistle
9. Van Morrison
10. William Allen White
11. Don Cherry
12. Terry Fox
13. Bill Freehan
14. Clyde Tombaugh
15. Brian McBride
16. Dionne Warwick
17. Kenneth Mars
18. Malcolm Forbes
19. Lily Tomlin
20. John Birch
21. Buddy Holly
22. Kate Spade
23. Tony Gonzalez
24. Lena Olin
25. Richard Nixon
26. Barbara Walters
27. Carmen Miranda
28. Hobey Baker
29. Charlie Rose
30. Alan Dershowitz
31. Jack Elam
32. Fritz London
33. John Conyers
34. Mike Shannon
35. Condoleezza Rice
36. Gary Coleman
37. Alexander Pope
38. Ginger Rogers
39. Freddie Bartholomew
40. Christopher Wren
41. Margaret Mead
42. Frederick Jackson Turner
43. Steve Wozniak
44. Rick Monday
45. Kim Basinger
46. Henry Hyde
47. Warren Hastings
48. Suzanne Vega
49. Prince
50. Flora Purim
51. Chang & Eng Bunker
52. John Tower
53. Diana Ross
54. Ezra Pound
55. Conway Twitty
56. Tina Weymouth
57. Johnny Carson
58. Francis Scott Key
59. Paula Jones
60. J.R.R. Tolkien
61. James Levine
62. Kevin McHale
63. John Bonham
64. Idi Amin
65. Ulysses S. Grant
66. Jonathan Edwards
67. Bobby Riggs
68. Alice Marble
69. Clarence Thomas
70. Claude Debussy
71. Zebulon Pike
72. Susan St. James
73. Anthony Eden
74. Katharine Anne Porter
75. Melanie Griffith
77. Josh Bolten
76. Heinrich Boll
78. John Hay

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NellyLunatic1980 · #97 Post by **NellyLunatic1980** » Thu Jun 19, 2008 4:25 am

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ...

(Sorry, Mr. Fern.)

smilergrogan · #98 Post by **smilergrogan** » Sun Jun 22, 2008 12:50 pm

I hate to see a Tangredi go ungotten, so maybe this addendum to the original game will help:

Answers to the following combine to make two pairs and two triples according to the same Tangredi as in the original game.

79. His political career took off following a successful hostage negotiation with a psychotic who called himself "The Human Bomb"
80. Known for his consistency during 18 major league seasons, he finished second to Johnny Bench for MVP in each of his two best
81. This former world leader was once described as "the man who ran away from the circus to become an accountant"
82. My father attended the Lorain, Ohio high school named for this WWII Chief of Naval Operations and Commander-in-Chief of the U.S. fleet
83. This 1992 Pulitzer Special Citation for Letters winner got his start working for Topp's Bubblegum Co. designing such products as Wacky Packages and Garbage Pail Kids cards
84. This former wife of a former presidential candidate played the sister of a former president in a 1997 film
85. According to a 2007 GQ Magazine survey, she was the subject of “the most influential piece of men’s art of the last 50 years”
86. While in college, this comedian played drums for the Leather Canaries, an early version of Steely Dan
87. He led the NBA in scoring during the 1980s
88. Nicknamed "The Bombardier", this boxer was the winning answer for the most recent millionaire on an English language version of WWTBAM

NellyLunatic1980 · #99 Post by **NellyLunatic1980** » Mon Jun 23, 2008 4:55 am

80. Known for his consistency during 18 major league seasons, he finished second to Johnny Bench for MVP in each of his two best
BILLY WILLIAMS

81. This former world leader was once described as "the man who ran away from the circus to become an accountant"
JOHN MAJOR

82. My father attended the Lorain, Ohio high school named for this WWII Chief of Naval Operations and Commander-in-Chief of the U.S. fleet
ERNEST JOSEPH KING

83. This 1992 Pulitzer Special Citation for Letters winner got his start working for Topp's Bubblegum Co. designing such products as Wacky Packages and Garbage Pail Kids cards
ART SPIEGELMAN

85. According to a 2007 GQ Magazine survey, she was the subject of “the most influential piece of men’s art of the last 50 years”
FARRAH FAWCETT

86. While in college, this comedian played drums for the Leather Canaries, an early version of Steely Dan
CHEVY CHASE

87. He led the NBA in scoring during the 1980s
Could be Michael Jordan, Magic Johnson, or Larry Bird

88. Nicknamed "The Bombardier", this boxer was the winning answer for the most recent millionaire on an English language version of WWTBAM
WILLIAM THOMAS WELLS, who was the gongman in the logo for J. Arthur Rank Films

Weyoun · #100 Post by **Weyoun** » Mon Jun 23, 2008 8:45 am

Nope, the NBA Player is Alex ENGLISH. That weird little factoid always struck me as especially weird.

NellyLunatic1980 wrote:80. Known for his consistency during 18 major league seasons, he finished second to Johnny Bench for MVP in each of his two best
BILLY WILLIAMS

81. This former world leader was once described as "the man who ran away from the circus to become an accountant"
JOHN MAJOR

82. My father attended the Lorain, Ohio high school named for this WWII Chief of Naval Operations and Commander-in-Chief of the U.S. fleet
ERNEST JOSEPH KING

83. This 1992 Pulitzer Special Citation for Letters winner got his start working for Topp's Bubblegum Co. designing such products as Wacky Packages and Garbage Pail Kids cards
ART SPIEGELMAN

85. According to a 2007 GQ Magazine survey, she was the subject of “the most influential piece of men’s art of the last 50 years”
FARRAH FAWCETT

86. While in college, this comedian played drums for the Leather Canaries, an early version of Steely Dan
CHEVY CHASE

87. He led the NBA in scoring during the 1980s
Could be Michael Jordan, Magic Johnson, or Larry Bird

88. Nicknamed "The Bombardier", this boxer was the winning answer for the most recent millionaire on an English language version of WWTBAM
WILLIAM THOMAS WELLS, who was the gongman in the logo for J. Arthur Rank Films

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