U.S. Tourist Drugged, Robbed, Killed by Train in Italy

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U.S. Tourist Drugged, Robbed, Killed by Train in Italy

#1 Post by themanintheseersuckersuit » Mon May 26, 2008 2:04 pm

They have some pretty vicious trains in Italy.

Its a sad story but the headline caught my eye.
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#2 Post by sunflower » Mon May 26, 2008 2:38 pm

You have to know, especially there, people aren't looking to give you anything for free. I was in Italy last summer and after paying 5 Euros for a 20 oz diet coke, and then on top of it, having the clerk attempt to give me the wrong change (shorting me), you know you're not getting a free cappucino!!

It's a really sad story and overall I think Italy is a safe country to travel in. I went with my family but rented my own car and explored Rome, Florence, Pisa and other areas on my own without a problem. You just have to be careful and smart, no matter where you're traveling.

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#3 Post by Bob Juch » Mon May 26, 2008 2:53 pm

sunflower wrote:You have to know, especially there, people aren't looking to give you anything for free. I was in Italy last summer and after paying 5 Euros for a 20 oz diet coke, and then on top of it, having the clerk attempt to give me the wrong change (shorting me), you know you're not getting a free cappucino!!

It's a really sad story and overall I think Italy is a safe country to travel in. I went with my family but rented my own car and explored Rome, Florence, Pisa and other areas on my own without a problem. You just have to be careful and smart, no matter where you're traveling.
I'm glad I don't drink Coke!

Just watch out for those killer trains.
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#4 Post by PlacentiaSoccerMom » Mon May 26, 2008 3:33 pm

Diet coke was really expensive when I went to Italy in 2001. If I wasn't addicted, I wouldn't have bought it. :)

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Re: U.S. Tourist Drugged, Robbed, Killed by Train in Italy

#5 Post by etaoin22 » Mon May 26, 2008 5:29 pm

themanintheseersuckersuit wrote:They have some pretty vicious trains in Italy.

Its a sad story but the headline caught my eye.

yeh, that parallel structure is jarring.

What is interesting is that the list of headlines from that source includes several which are worse or more misleading.

Woman Wakes After Heart Stopped, Rigor Mortis Set In


No, it didnt,or she didn't, one of the two.


Cargo Plane Splits in Two on Runway Before Takeoff in Belgium

No, it didnt. It split in two off the runway after the takeoff. (which did not take off...)
Interestingly, only the second loss of a 747 airframe by being driven off the end of the runway, in nearly 40 years. Similar one in Atlantic Canada, a little known cargo carrier a couple of years ago.

Report: Titanic Discovery Was Cold War Cover-Up

No, it wasn't. To begin with, it should be "Discovery of Titanic", not "Titanic Discovery", which is ambiguous; in fact, that mission was completly above board, as it were. The successful previous examination of nuclear submarine debris fields is at least somewhat new news.
It was not though have been "covered up", it just was never made fully public. Suggest "Robosub Discovery of Titanic Preceded by Secret Missions".

Suspect Shoots Bride, Groom During Wedding Ceremony .

I can just barely tolerate this, but when a malefactor commits an act of nastiness in plain view, there is more than suspicion involved, and different wording should be used. Perhaps "Bride and Groom Shot During Wedding Ceremony", or "Unknown man shoots bride and groom during wedding"

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Re: U.S. Tourist Drugged, Robbed, Killed by Train in Italy

#6 Post by John Rocker » Mon May 26, 2008 6:02 pm

themanintheseersuckersuit wrote:They have some pretty vicious trains in Italy.

You can't even ^*(#&^@ travel abroad without running into the scum of the earth on trains! What a sad ^@#*( situation!

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#7 Post by sunflower » Mon May 26, 2008 6:03 pm

It wasn't really about the train...the train was just coincidental, at least that's how it sounds from the story. It sounds like he was drugged in/near a cafe and then because he was drugged, managed to get hit by a train? At least that's how I read it.

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#8 Post by littlebeast13 » Mon May 26, 2008 6:06 pm

sunflower wrote:It wasn't really about the train...the train was just coincidental, at least that's how it sounds from the story. It sounds like he was drugged in/near a cafe and then because he was drugged, managed to get hit by a train? At least that's how I read it.

Whoever wrote the headline though was an idiot.

Either that, or the train was a liberal....

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#9 Post by themanintheseersuckersuit » Mon May 26, 2008 6:54 pm

The headline been changed to something innocuous now, but I was getting a Thomas the Tank Engine on meth vibe.
Suitguy is not bitter.

feels he represents the many educated and rational onlookers who believe that the hysterical denouncement of lay scepticism is both unwarranted and counter-productive

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#10 Post by earendel » Tue May 27, 2008 6:05 am

themanintheseersuckersuit wrote:They have some pretty vicious trains in Italy.

Its a sad story but the headline caught my eye.
This isn't exactly what I want to hear about with two sons abroad and using the rails to get from place to place.
"Elen sila lumenn omentielvo...A star shines on the hour of our meeting."

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Re: U.S. Tourist Drugged, Robbed, Killed by Train in Italy

#11 Post by sunflower » Tue May 27, 2008 7:20 am

earendel wrote:
themanintheseersuckersuit wrote:They have some pretty vicious trains in Italy.

Its a sad story but the headline caught my eye.
This isn't exactly what I want to hear about with two sons abroad and using the rails to get from place to place.
They should be fine, as long as they don't take candy from strangers...

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#12 Post by earendel » Tue May 27, 2008 7:33 am

sunflower wrote:
earendel wrote:
themanintheseersuckersuit wrote:They have some pretty vicious trains in Italy.

Its a sad story but the headline caught my eye.
This isn't exactly what I want to hear about with two sons abroad and using the rails to get from place to place.
They should be fine, as long as they don't take candy from strangers...
I'm sure they won't, but worrying is part of the parental job description, even though they are full-grown adults.
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#13 Post by marrymeflyfree » Tue May 27, 2008 8:50 am

sunflower wrote:I was in Italy last summer and after paying 5 Euros for a 20 oz diet coke....

Forget the cokes...peroni is cheaper.


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