The "Democratic Socialists" (AKA Communists) in Minnesota...

[Spock]

really do want to take all of the land in Minnesota, and (just to satisfy Weyoun) this obviously included both white and non-white communists.

As the "Democratic Socialists" (aka Communists) basically control the largest cities in the state and are starting to make inroads in the inner-ring suburbs-one of the guys at Powerline blog dug into their stated policies and such.

https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/ ... agenda.php

He found the usual stuff that you would expect, but he was surprised to find the prominence of one area:

>>>"But I was surprised by the prominence of the “Decolonize the Settler State of Minnesota” agenda. It appears as Demand No. 1. Demand No. 2 reads,

"Return of land: Return land to First Nations, starting with expropriating State, Federal, and large private holdings, with the return of the rest of the land as soon as possible."<<<<

I am guessing it would be hard to get the federal lands for awhile-and "expropriating" private lands is a little more problematic under the takings clause, but they can play games with the state land.

I guess, under the "Democratic Socialist" (AKA Communist) agenda, goodbye beloved state parks and the vast acreages that have been donated to the state for wildlife conservation.

BTW-for those who say that this could never happen-the Walz Administration has already given a state park to the indians and has played games with other acreages as well.

And as they make clear-they are going to go after private lands as hard as they can.

[silverscreenselect]

As the "Democratic Socialists" (aka Communists) basically control the largest cities in the state and are starting to make inroads in the inner-ring suburbs-one of the guys at Powerline blog dug into their stated policies and such.

Three members of the 67 member Minnesota State Senate identify as DSA members and two members of the 134 House of Representatives. According to their records, the Twin Cities DSA has a membership of about 2500 (which may include anyone who showed up for a meeting, and signed a form) over 16 counties. The population of Minneapolis alone is 430,000 and St. Paul is 310,000. They don't "control" anything except a website where they can post outrageous demands that sound good as rallying points but won't go anywhere if they actually gain enough power to be a factor in state politics.

What has really energized the DSA and other left-wing organizations in Minnesota was the ICE violence and murders this winter (which you and Powerline conveniently omit to discuss in your survey of Minnesota politics). The increase in size of the DSA and similar organizations is a direct reaction to those excesses.

[flockofseagulls104]

Hey, look what trump did today!!!!

[Spock]

As the "Democratic Socialists" (aka Communists) basically control the largest cities in the state and are starting to make inroads in the inner-ring suburbs-one of the guys at Powerline blog dug into their stated policies and such.

Three members of the 67 member Minnesota State Senate identify as DSA members and two members of the 134 House of Representatives. According to their records, the Twin Cities DSA has a membership of about 2500 (which may include anyone who showed up for a meeting, and signed a form) over 16 counties. The population of Minneapolis alone is 430,000 and St. Paul is 310,000. They don't "control" anything except a website where they can post outrageous demands that sound good as rallying points but won't go anywhere if they actually gain enough power to be a factor in state politics.

What has really energized the DSA and other left-wing organizations in Minnesota was the ICE violence and murders this winter (which you and Powerline conveniently omit to discuss in your survey of Minnesota politics). The increase in size of the DSA and similar organizations is a direct reaction to those excesses.

Not a thread about Trump-This is a thread about your buddies-the "Democratic Socialists" (AKA Communists) who want to "EXPROPRIATE" 100% of the land in Minnesota.

And as I said in my original post in this thread their influence obviously extends farther than their actual membership on paper as the Walz Administration already gave a state park to the Indians and has been playing games with thousands of other acres in state forests and such.

[wbtravis007]

really do want to take all of the land in Minnesota, and (just to satisfy Weyoun) this obviously included both white and non-white communists.

As the "Democratic Socialists" (aka Communists) basically control the largest cities in the state and are starting to make inroads in the inner-ring suburbs-one of the guys at Powerline blog dug into their stated policies and such.

https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/ ... agenda.php

He found the usual stuff that you would expect, but he was surprised to find the prominence of one area:

>>>"But I was surprised by the prominence of the “Decolonize the Settler State of Minnesota” agenda. It appears as Demand No. 1. Demand No. 2 reads,

"Return of land: Return land to First Nations, starting with expropriating State, Federal, and large private holdings, with the return of the rest of the land as soon as possible."<<<<

I am guessing it would be hard to get the federal lands for awhile-and "expropriating" private lands is a little more problematic under the takings clause, but they can play games with the state land.

I guess, under the "Democratic Socialist" (AKA Communist) agenda, goodbye beloved state parks and the vast acreages that have been donated to the state for wildlife conservation.

BTW-for those who say that this could never happen-the Walz Administration has already given a state park to the indians and has played games with other acreages as well.

And as they make clear-they are going to go after private lands as hard as they can.

I’d bet $500,000 that you’ve received more than that in Federal subsidies. Is being on the dole like that an example of socialism at work?

[elwoodblues]

We are starting to see the word "communist" thrown around a lot. Is "socialist" no longer an effective scare word?

[Spock]

We are starting to see the word "communist" thrown around a lot. Is "socialist" no longer an effective scare word?

When a party (with significant influence) has a policy of EXPROPRIATING 100% of the land in Minnesota-what part of that is not communistic and is only a scare word?

I also love how SSS always tells us how popular his buddies, the Democratic Socialists (AKA Communists), are, but when somebody digs into the policies that his ilk support, suddenly he gets all legalistic as to how few actual official members there are and such.

[silverscreenselect]

I also love how SSS always tells us how popular his buddies, the Democratic Socialists (AKA Communists), are, but when somebody digs into the policies that his ilk support, suddenly he gets all legalistic as to how few actual official members there are and such.

Could you point out one time I've said how popular the Democratic Socialists are, other than to indicate that they are minimally significant? Alternately, could you point out a policy of theirs that is Communist? HINT: Giving land back to Native Americans may be misguided but it's not Communist.

[Spock]

I also love how SSS always tells us how popular his buddies, the Democratic Socialists (AKA Communists), are, but when somebody digs into the policies that his ilk support, suddenly he gets all legalistic as to how few actual official members there are and such.

Could you point out one time I've said how popular the Democratic Socialists are, other than to indicate that they are minimally significant? Alternately, could you point out a policy of theirs that is Communist? HINT: Giving land back to Native Americans may be misguided but it's not Communist.

The part about giving land backto the Native Americans may not be Communist in and of itself, but the part about "EXPROPRIATING" the land certainly is.

>>>"Return of land: Return land to First Nations, starting with expropriating State, Federal, and large private holdings, with the return of the rest of the land as soon as possible."<<<

What is the definition of "Large Private Holdings?" Is that land which is owned by the Kulaks?

[jarnon]

>>>"Return of land: Return land to First Nations, starting with expropriating State, Federal, and large private holdings, with the return of the rest of the land as soon as possible."<<<

What is the definition of "Large Private Holdings?" Is that land which is owned by the Kulaks?

It’s land owned by Boers. They’re using South Africa as a model. You should recognise it.

[flockofseagulls104]

We are starting to see the word "communist" thrown around a lot. Is "socialist" no longer an effective scare word?

When they themselves tell you who they are, you should believe them. Unless you enjoy looking at the sand you have buried your head in.

Just for historical context, Hitler's Nazis were a fringe group, just like SSS is describing the radical DSAs that are now defeating incumbant established leftist democrats. Neither SSS nor elwood seem to be worried about them or be aware of them, in their TDS tunnel vision. But just like the nazis, these 'democratic socialists' are very much like the 'national socialists' in that they seem to be very much committed and will use any means necessary. The 'Red Rabbits' that Mr. Jenkins refers to could very well evolve into an SS type group.

[Spock]

We are starting to see the word "communist" thrown around a lot. Is "socialist" no longer an effective scare word?

When they themselves tell you who they are, you should believe them. Unless you enjoy looking at the sand you have buried your head in.

Just for historical context, Hitler's Nazis were a fringe group, just like SSS is describing the radical DSAs that are now defeating incumbant established leftist democrats. SSS does not worry about them. But just like the nazis, these 'democratic socialists' are very much like the 'national socialists' in that they seem to be very much committed and will use any means necessary.

Also Elwood is using the "Republicans Pounce" line of argument that is so common in the MSM. It is not a problem that SSS's buddies, the Democratic Socialists (AKA Communists) espouse a Communist policy, in this case 'the expropriation of land. But, it is bad that we noticed it and therefore "Pounced" on it.

[tlynn78]

Hey, look what trump did today!!!!

Pretty spot on representation!

[silverscreenselect]

Also Elwood is using the "Republicans Pounce" line of argument that is so common in the MSM. It is not a problem that SSS's buddies, the Democratic Socialists (AKA Communists) espouse a Communist policy, in this case 'the expropriation of land. But, it is bad that we noticed it and therefore "Pounced" on it.

It is somewhat telling that Republicans can't run on their own record (affordability, Iran, tariffs, ICE raids, the Great American Fair, the ballroom, Trump's billion dollar graft, etc.), or their plans for the next two years (crickets), so their only line of attack is to trot out the worn-out Communist bugaboo that quit being the slightest bit effective about the time the Berlin Wall came down.

We've had one example of actual "Communist" leadership this year and that's Zohran Mamdani in New York. I don't hear anyone criticizing his record these last six months.

[flockofseagulls104]

I don't hear anyone criticizing his record these last six months.

Hard to hear anything when your ears are filled with sand and your brain is fixated on one thing - trump.

[wbtravis007]

Hey, look what trump did today!!!!

Pretty spot on representation!

Y'all might want to go ahead and unclutch the pearls. We still have a little something we like to call the Constitution.

And, while you're at it, I'd recommend relaxing those sphincters a little, too. (Or maybe bigly.)

[earendel]

We are starting to see the word "communist" thrown around a lot. Is "socialist" no longer an effective scare word?

When they themselves tell you who they are, you should believe them. Unless you enjoy looking at the sand you have buried your head in.

Just for historical context, Hitler's Nazis were a fringe group, just like SSS is describing the radical DSAs that are now defeating incumbant established leftist democrats. Neither SSS nor elwood seem to be worried about them or be aware of them, in their TDS tunnel vision. But just like the nazis, these 'democratic socialists' are very much like the 'national socialists' in that they seem to be very much committed and will use any means necessary. The 'Red Rabbits' that Mr. Jenkins refers to could very well evolve into an SS type group.

I'm confused. Are the Democratic Socialists Communists or Nazis? They can't be both.

[flockofseagulls104]

We are starting to see the word "communist" thrown around a lot. Is "socialist" no longer an effective scare word?

When they themselves tell you who they are, you should believe them. Unless you enjoy looking at the sand you have buried your head in.

Just for historical context, Hitler's Nazis were a fringe group, just like SSS is describing the radical DSAs that are now defeating incumbant established leftist democrats. Neither SSS nor elwood seem to be worried about them or be aware of them, in their TDS tunnel vision. But just like the nazis, these 'democratic socialists' are very much like the 'national socialists' in that they seem to be very much committed and will use any means necessary. The 'Red Rabbits' that Mr. Jenkins refers to could very well evolve into an SS type group.

I'm confused. Are the Democratic Socialists Communists or Nazis? They can't be both.

Yet they are. Mr. Jenkins will tell you exactly what they are if you bother clicking the links I provided and do a little research for yourself. But as long as your head is in the sand, you can remain safely ignorant and post patronizing and stupid comments like the above.

[flockofseagulls104]

Hmmm, Mr. Jenkins also tells us he is a member of Antifa. I thought that was a made up thing, right? He must be a very confused and busy individual.

[silverscreenselect]

Mr. Jenkins will tell you exactly what they are if you bother clicking the links I provided and do a little research for yourself.

I did some research. From a New York independent theater company website:

David Jenkins is a theater-maker, organizer, and conceptual artist based in Brooklyn (and online). He is a proud founding member of Broken Box Mime Theater and has written and performed with the company since 2011. He has been highly active in NYC independent theater since 2007, originally as a performer and later as a director, writer, and producer. In recent years his conceptual practice has spread from streaming performance to spiritual and entrepreneurial projects. Outside of art he volunteers politically and in the community with NYC-DSA, Tenant Union Flatbush, and more.

https://www.brokenboxmime.com/the-company/david

So, the man whose goal is to turn the United States into a Communist nation is a mime whose source of income is gigs at various independent theater groups in New York. He apparently hasn't updated his website since 2020. Unlike most mimes, he likes to shoot his mouth off and make himself feel important.

The right is so desperate for something they can use to campaign on in the midterm elections that they're resorting to the Red threat. Since there aren't any actual Communists around anymore in anything resembling a position of power, they're stuck trying to elevate wannabes like this guy

[mrkelley23]

I have a question. Can someone please explain to poor little brainwashed and deluded me and my ilk how "Freedom Fuel" gas stations are not communism? Extra points of you can distinguish between them and Mayor Mamdani's grocery store plan.

I won't even ask about the State taking ownership positions in megalomania like NVidia and Amazon.

[jarnon]

I won't even ask about the State taking ownership positions in megalomania like NVidia and Amazon.

From 2009 to 2013, the U.S. Treasury was the majority owner of General Motors.

>>> KIRK: Now look, Krako, we're taking over the whole ball of wax. You co-operate with us and maybe we'll cut you in for a piece of the action.
SPOCKO: A minuscule. A very small piece. <<<

[flockofseagulls104]

Mr. Jenkins will tell you exactly what they are if you bother clicking the links I provided and do a little research for yourself.

I did some research. From a New York independent theater company website:

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Apparently, since 2020 he has devoted himself completely to his anarchistic calling. Probally gets a paycheck from Soros or Elias or some other rich idiot. Nice gig if you can get it.

[flockofseagulls104]

I have a question. Can someone please explain to poor little brainwashed and deluded me and my ilk how "Freedom Fuel" gas stations are not communism? Extra points of you can distinguish between them and Mayor Mamdani's grocery store plan.

I won't even ask about the State taking ownership positions in megalomania like NVidia and Amazon.

Well, it's taken you a long time, but you're finally getting what we conservatives have been pointing out for a long time. The federal government has got their little pointy fingers in a lot of places where they shouldn't be. Now your political party ain't even trying to hide their desire to take over ownership of the private sector. Congratulations.

[silverscreenselect]

The DSA has a total membership of about 120,000 nationwide. It has expanded considerably in the last two years in response to Donald Trump's re-election. To put that in perspective, Turning Point USA has a membership of 1.6 million, over ten times that of the DSA.

Jenkins and the others on the National Committee have full-time jobs and are doing this in their spare time. This isn't exactly a cohesive unit set to turn the United States into a Communist country. And if you look at what's happened in the one location where you could claim a DSA member has gained power, Zohran Mamdani, you'll find a six-month record of non-Communist success.

If you want to worry about something worry about the unprecedented power grab of Donald Trump in his second term. That's a much bigger threat to American democracy than this guy Jenkins and his buddies pontificating in their spare time.