I think this forum has jumped the shark

[flockofseagulls104]

All the leftists have is criticisms, insults and complaints about Trump. It is honestly boring, incessantly stupid and childish and I have no interest in addressing any of it.

[silverscreenselect]

All the leftists have is criticisms, insults and complaints about Trump. It is honestly boring, incessantly stupid and childish and I have no interest in addressing any of it.

Translation: Trump has been acting like such a crazy idiot lately that not even Flock can think of ways to explain or justify what he's done.

[kroxquo]

All the leftists have is criticisms, insults and complaints about Trump. It is honestly boring, incessantly stupid and childish and I have no interest in addressing any of it.

If you can give me anything positive that has come out of this Presidency so far, I'll be happy to talk about it.

[Weyoun]

I am always happy to talk about how idiotic and insane this murderous administration is.

Most are avoiding talking about this terrible war because deep down they know it’s going badly. The only comment by myself here lately to prompt any kind of substantial response was when I noted that Charlie Kirk was actually a deadbeat bullshit artist who couldn’t even hack college or get a productive job.

[flockofseagulls104]

I appreciate all your confirmation.

[tlynn78]

I appreciate all your confirmation.

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[flockofseagulls104]

All the leftists have is criticisms, insults and complaints about Trump. It is honestly boring, incessantly stupid and childish and I have no interest in addressing any of it.

If you can give me anything positive that has come out of this Presidency so far, I'll be happy to talk about it.

If you can think of any possible defense for defunding homeland security in the midst of a conflict with the world's biggest promoter of terrorism, I'd be interested in hearing it. Can you come up with one without referencing Trump? It should be another doozy.

[Weyoun]

All the leftists have is criticisms, insults and complaints about Trump. It is honestly boring, incessantly stupid and childish and I have no interest in addressing any of it.

If you can give me anything positive that has come out of this Presidency so far, I'll be happy to talk about it.

If you can think of any possible defense for defunding homeland security in the midst of a conflict with the world's biggest promoter of terrorism, I'd be interested in hearing it. Can you come up with one without referencing Trump? It should be another doozy.

One argument would be that, if folks are really so worried about terrorism, they would agree to the Democrats demands where things like cameras and a policy of not shooting American citizens are included.

Another argument would be that this talk of terrorism wouldn’t be needed if we didn’t start such a stupid, needless war

[jarnon]

If you can think of any possible defense for defunding homeland security in the midst of a conflict with the world's biggest promoter of terrorism, I'd be interested in hearing it. Can you come up with one without referencing Trump? It should be another doozy.

The military, FBI, CIA and other departments that actually fight the war and terrorism are fully funded. ICE and CBP still have plenty of money from the Bloated Boondoggle Bill. Some agencies like FEMA and TSA are working without pay, and the Democrats have proposed several legislative fixes.

It bothers me more that FBI and Homeland Security agents have been diverted from terrorism investigations, cybersecurity, and other tasks that actually protect us from Iranian threats, so they can round up as many aliens as possible.

[silverscreenselect]

It bothers me more that FBI and Homeland Security agents have been diverted from terrorism investigations, cybersecurity, and other tasks that actually protect us from Iranian threats, so they can round up as many aliens as possible.

Don't forget all the investigations of Democratic politicians and others Trump doesn't like that the FBI is now engaged in.

[flockofseagulls104]

The military, FBI, CIA and other departments that actually fight the war and terrorism are fully funded. ICE and CBP still have plenty of money from the Bloated Boondoggle Bill. Some agencies like FEMA and TSA are working without pay, and the Democrats have proposed several legislative fixes.

Hmm. If ICE still has plenty of money, then what the fuck are the democrats trying to prove? I thought their beef was that ICE was killing innocent god-fearing protesters all over the place and needed to be stopped?
And regardless how the conflict started, we are in it, aren't we? So shouldn't any decent American do everything possible to protect their fellow citizens: from terrorists threatening our airlines or possible disasters? Or do democrats only care about illegal aliens, as they demonstrated at the SOTU? Or maybe it's that they believe TSA and FEMA are just government work programs that really don't do anything important except spend taxpayer money, so they can be weaponized? Which is it? I guess it will take a few more terrorist attacks in this country before the democrats postpone their 'legislative fixes' and start addressing current reality.

It bothers me more that FBI and Homeland Security agents have been diverted from terrorism investigations, cybersecurity, and other tasks that actually protect us from Iranian threats, so they can round up as many aliens as possible.

It bothered me for several years why biden and those running his administration deliberately let everyone and his brother into this country (an estimated 10 to 20 million) without any vetting at all. And that includes many Iranian 'refugees'. And these are only the ones we know about. So, your complaining about Iranian threats should have been made a few years ago along with those of us who raised that concern.

So you guys really need to get real. No, it wasn't us, or Israel who started this. It was the regime that in 1979 stormed our embassy and took hostages. Then imposed a hardline islamist dictatorship on the Iranian people. And who invented the concept of suicide bombers and unfocused terror and exported this heinous hatred worldwide until we accept these undeniably EVIL acts as 'normal'. And look at the seesaw of how we dealt with this regime, which daily proclaimed 'Death to America', between conservative and democrat administrations. One administration shipped them billions of dollars of cash. Others sanctioned the shit out of them until they were almost ready to collapse. Whose frickin side are you on? No matter who or how this conflict started, we are in it now. Who are you going to support? Us or them? Or does your overiding hatred of trump overrule everything else?

[silverscreenselect]

Whose frickin side are you on? No matter who or how this conflict started, we are in it now. Who are you going to support? Us or them?

What exactly does supporting "us" mean? Sitting around waiting for Trump and/or Hegseth to decide they've done enough winning? We entered this war with no clearly defined objectives and no consulting with Congress. Trump's goals for this war seem to change from day to day. Since we don't know what our goals or strategy are, we can't tell to what extent we are actually "winning" the war. Cartainly, Iran is in a better position today that they were one week ago, with the Strait of Hormuz closed and addiitional economic pressure imposed on the U.S. Opposing the way this war has been conducted does not mean supporting Iran. It means demanding a constitutionally required degree of explanation and accountability from our leadership.

[flockofseagulls104]

Whose frickin side are you on? No matter who or how this conflict started, we are in it now. Who are you going to support? Us or them?

What exactly does supporting "us" mean? Sitting around waiting for Trump and/or Hegseth to decide they've done enough winning? We entered this war with no clearly defined objectives and no consulting with Congress. Trump's goals for this war seem to change from day to day. Since we don't know what our goals or strategy are, we can't tell to what extent we are actually "winning" the war. Cartainly, Iran is in a better position today that they were one week ago, with the Strait of Hormuz closed and addiitional economic pressure imposed on the U.S. Opposing the way this war has been conducted does not mean supporting Iran. It means demanding a constitutionally required degree of explanation and accountability from our leadership.

What does US mean to you?

The objectives and the strategy of this action are clear to anyone with a rational mind.

Consulting with congress? Surely you are shitting me. Half of congress doesn't even know what a woman is and most of those don't even know how to spell Iran, and you want them to be consulted?

Opposing the way this war has been conducted does not mean supporting Iran.

How do you want to conduct it other than generally and vaguely opposing it? (without referencing trump)

[silverscreenselect]

Consulting with congress? Surely you are shitting me. Half of congress doesn't even know what a woman is and most of those don't even know how to spell Iran, and you want them to be consulted?

It's not that I want Congress to be consulted. It's that the Constitution requires them to be consulted and agree before waging war, so we don't have Presidents sending the army off wherever they want on a whim. I'm guessing the Founding Fathers trusted George Washington more than some of the people in Congress but they still put in that requirement as part of the separation of powers doctrine.

At least Bush presented evidence of WMD in Iraq (mistaken as it turned out) and got Congressional approval before we went to war in 2003.