So why IS he pardoning them?
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So why IS he pardoning them?
I'm not Weyoun, so I will see if I can get a response to this.
For someone who is supposed to be big on law and order he is pardoning criminals right and left, Democrats and Republicans alike. The common denominator seems to be corruption, which is something he admires no matter who is doing it.
For someone who is supposed to be big on law and order he is pardoning criminals right and left, Democrats and Republicans alike. The common denominator seems to be corruption, which is something he admires no matter who is doing it.
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Re: So why IS he pardoning them?
Well, first of all, this is a question driven solely by TDS. Funny, none of you asked that of the 4245 pardons and commutations, including retroactive pardons for crimes not discovered or charged yet, given by Biden's autopen in his 4 years. Compare that to Trump's 238 so far. Or Obama's 1927.elwoodblues wrote: ↑Thu Dec 04, 2025 6:23 pmI'm not Weyoun, so I will see if I can get a response to this.
For someone who is supposed to be big on law and order he is pardoning criminals right and left, Democrats and Republicans alike. The common denominator seems to be corruption, which is something he admires no matter who is doing it.
A lot are to people WRONGLY convicted using the FACE Act: People put in jail for protesting abortions. Then there's the pardoning of the political prisoners of Pelosi's pet J6 project. Most of the rest were victims of lawfare, as this administration sees it. I think that is why he pardoned Cuellar and his wife, even though they are democrats. Cuellar criticized Biden's immigration policy, and he was suddenly targeted. That covers a lot of them. If you really want to know, look them up yourself. We all know the reason you are asking. Try finding a more rewarding hobby.
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Re: So why IS he pardoning them?
Trump has pardoned or granted clemency to over 1600 people just this year. He pardoned 238 in his first term, which is where you got your number, you fucking idiot. A large number of people with Biden had their sentences commuted, not pardoned, you fucking idiot. I didn't read the rest of your post since you couldn't get that much correct.flockofseagulls104 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 04, 2025 7:44 pmWell, first of all, this is a question driven solely by TDS. Funny, none of you asked that of the 4245 pardons and commutations, including retroactive pardons for crimes not discovered or charged yet, given by Biden's autopen in his 4 years. Compare that to Trump's 238 so far. Or Obama's 1927.elwoodblues wrote: ↑Thu Dec 04, 2025 6:23 pmI'm not Weyoun, so I will see if I can get a response to this.
For someone who is supposed to be big on law and order he is pardoning criminals right and left, Democrats and Republicans alike. The common denominator seems to be corruption, which is something he admires no matter who is doing it.
A lot are to people WRONGLY convicted using the FACE Act: People put in jail for protesting abortions. Then there's the pardoning of the political prisoners of Pelosi's pet J6 project. Most of the rest were victims of lawfare, as this administration sees it. I think that is why he pardoned Cuellar and his wife, even though they are democrats. Cuellar criticized Biden's immigration policy, and he was suddenly targeted. That covers a lot of them. If you really want to know, look them up yourself. We all know the reason you are asking. Try finding a more rewarding hobby.
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Re: So why IS he pardoning them?
Not a big fan of pardons, whoever is issuing them, except in very specific circumstances. Unfortunately, given the degree to which the "Biden" administration weaponized our justice system, and the commensurate backlash, I dont see them going away any time soon.elwoodblues wrote: ↑Thu Dec 04, 2025 6:23 pmI'm not Weyoun, so I will see if I can get a response to this.
For someone who is supposed to be big on law and order he is pardoning criminals right and left, Democrats and Republicans alike. The common denominator seems to be corruption, which is something he admires no matter who is doing it.
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Re: So why IS he pardoning them?
Biden commuted many sentences for offenses that wouldn’t be a jailable crime today, like smoking weed. Trump’s done that too.
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Re: So why IS he pardoning them?
It's not that he admires corruption. He admires the possible paybacks he gets for pardoning corruption.elwoodblues wrote: ↑Thu Dec 04, 2025 6:23 pmThe common denominator seems to be corruption, which is something he admires no matter who is doing it.
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Re: So why IS he pardoning them?
Are you by chance referring to the political prisoners who injured about 150 police during the J6 attack?flockofseagulls104 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 04, 2025 7:44 pmThen there's the pardoning of the political prisoners of Pelosi's pet J6 project.
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Re: So why IS he pardoning them?
No, I am not. I am referring to the hundreds of people that were caught in a sting operation by dozens of FBI and other swamp plants in the crowd, like Ray Epps, urging people to enter the Capitol. And who were then sentenced by corrupt judges to outrageously harsh sentences. Those are the ones I am referring to. These are the ones that were pardoned by President Trump.silverscreenselect wrote: ↑Thu Dec 04, 2025 10:10 pmAre you by chance referring to the political prisoners who injured about 150 police during the J6 attack?flockofseagulls104 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 04, 2025 7:44 pmThen there's the pardoning of the political prisoners of Pelosi's pet J6 project.
Two of them got especially harsh sentences: Ashley Babbitt and Roseanne Boyland. The people who killed them got off pretty much scot free.
I was answering the question posed by Elwood. No need to inject your TDS here. We are all aware of it, thanks.
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Re: So why IS he pardoning them?
Of course, there has never been any evidence successfully presented about those "dozens of FBI and other swamp plants in the crowd" in any of the J6 defendants' trials. And who were then sentenced by corrupt judges to outrageously harsh sentences.flockofseagulls104 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 04, 2025 11:22 pmI am referring to the hundreds of people that were caught in a sting operation by dozens of FBI and other swamp plants in the crowd, like Ray Epps, urging people to enter the Capitol.
No need to inject your TDS here. We are all aware of it, thanks.
But for now, let's just add two more definitions to the flock dictionary. It reads:
We now add:"lawfare" = any legal proceeding or decision with which flock disagrees
"fake news" - any news report flock doesn't like
"kangaroo court" = any court that returns a decision Flock doesn't like.
"technicality" = A fundamental legal principle whose application results in a decision Flock doesn't like.
"Trump derangement syndrome (TDS)" - pointing out unpleasant facts about Donald Trump
"corrupt judge" - any judge who returns a decision Flock doesn't like. Corrupt judges preside over kangaroo courts and often base their decisions on technicalities.
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Re: So why IS he pardoning them?
Central to whitefailure’s Jan 6 fantasies is a belief that people like himself are important. They are not. If you stopped existing tomorrow, I would continue on my way. Your car would be impounded. You add nothing to society except for toxic content and weird beliefs.
This is pretty much the same with the anti-vaccine crowd, they would have us all get polio because they believe that there is some organizing power out there, Bill Gates or something, trying to control them by giving them a shot when they are little babies. It’s not only completely unmoored from fact; it’s also the height of arrogance to think that anybody would want to control about the very mundane lives of these people who move about like cows, grazing on their crap food and staring blankly at crap TikTok, who then have the gall to blame all their health problems on a billionaire, while voting for another billionaire.
In short, no, there was no some massive plot because the FBI wanted to really get Ashli Babbitt
This is pretty much the same with the anti-vaccine crowd, they would have us all get polio because they believe that there is some organizing power out there, Bill Gates or something, trying to control them by giving them a shot when they are little babies. It’s not only completely unmoored from fact; it’s also the height of arrogance to think that anybody would want to control about the very mundane lives of these people who move about like cows, grazing on their crap food and staring blankly at crap TikTok, who then have the gall to blame all their health problems on a billionaire, while voting for another billionaire.
In short, no, there was no some massive plot because the FBI wanted to really get Ashli Babbitt
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Re: So why IS he pardoning them?
Ah, yes. Here we have more fine, adult discourse. Quite the breath of fresh air. Perhaps we can have more once you wipe the spittle from your screen.Weyoun wrote: ↑Fri Dec 05, 2025 7:31 amCentral to whitefailure’s Jan 6 fantasies is a belief that people like himself are important. They are not. If you stopped existing tomorrow, I would continue on my way. Your car would be impounded. You add nothing to society except for toxic content and weird beliefs.
This is pretty much the same with the anti-vaccine crowd, they would have us all get polio because they believe that there is some organizing power out there, Bill Gates or something, trying to control them by giving them a shot when they are little babies. It’s not only completely unmoored from fact; it’s also the height of arrogance to think that anybody would want to control about the very mundane lives of these people who move about like cows, grazing on their crap food and staring blankly at crap TikTok, who then have the gall to blame all their health problems on a billionaire, while voting for another billionaire.
In short, no, there was no some massive plot because the FBI wanted to really get Ashli Babbitt
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Re: So why IS he pardoning them?
Here is just one example. And there is more and more being revealed every day. What about the J6 pipe bomber? What about Ray Epps, SSS? What is your story on him? Why do you ignore things right in front of your face and accept ridiculous explanations for things there is no excuse for? For years you ignore shit and accept the lies you are being told, even after they are revealed unquestionably as lies.silverscreenselect wrote: ↑Fri Dec 05, 2025 4:34 amOf course, there has never been any evidence successfully presented about those "dozens of FBI and other swamp plants in the crowd" in any of the J6 defendants' trials. And who were then sentenced by corrupt judges to outrageously harsh sentences.flockofseagulls104 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 04, 2025 11:22 pmI am referring to the hundreds of people that were caught in a sting operation by dozens of FBI and other swamp plants in the crowd, like Ray Epps, urging people to enter the Capitol.
No need to inject your TDS here. We are all aware of it, thanks.
But for now, let's just add two more definitions to the flock dictionary. It reads:
We now add:"lawfare" = any legal proceeding or decision with which flock disagrees
"fake news" - any news report flock doesn't like
"kangaroo court" = any court that returns a decision Flock doesn't like.
"technicality" = A fundamental legal principle whose application results in a decision Flock doesn't like.
"Trump derangement syndrome (TDS)" - pointing out unpleasant facts about Donald Trump
"corrupt judge" - any judge who returns a decision Flock doesn't like. Corrupt judges preside over kangaroo courts and often base their decisions on technicalities.
There is PLENTY of evidence for everything you and the media lip sync the words "there is no evidence" to. YOU JUST MAKE EXCUSES AND USE LEGAL TECHNICALITIES TO AVOID EVEN LOOKING AT IT, MUCH LESS CONSIDERING IT.
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Re: So why IS he pardoning them?
It was reported on the news this morning that the pipe bomber thought that the 2020 election was stolen. (I bet you thought he was in favor of Biden because he’s black.)flockofseagulls104 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 05, 2025 9:40 amHere is just one example. And there is more and more being revealed every day. What about the J6 pipe bomber? What about Ray Epps, SSS? What is your story on him? Why do you ignore things right in front of your face and accept ridiculous explanations for things there is no excuse for? For years you ignore shit and accept the lies you are being told, even after they are revealed unquestionably as lies.silverscreenselect wrote: ↑Fri Dec 05, 2025 4:34 amOf course, there has never been any evidence successfully presented about those "dozens of FBI and other swamp plants in the crowd" in any of the J6 defendants' trials. And who were then sentenced by corrupt judges to outrageously harsh sentences.flockofseagulls104 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 04, 2025 11:22 pmI am referring to the hundreds of people that were caught in a sting operation by dozens of FBI and other swamp plants in the crowd, like Ray Epps, urging people to enter the Capitol.
No need to inject your TDS here. We are all aware of it, thanks.
But for now, let's just add two more definitions to the flock dictionary. It reads:
We now add:"lawfare" = any legal proceeding or decision with which flock disagrees
"fake news" - any news report flock doesn't like
"kangaroo court" = any court that returns a decision Flock doesn't like.
"technicality" = A fundamental legal principle whose application results in a decision Flock doesn't like.
"Trump derangement syndrome (TDS)" - pointing out unpleasant facts about Donald Trump
"corrupt judge" - any judge who returns a decision Flock doesn't like. Corrupt judges preside over kangaroo courts and often base their decisions on technicalities.
There is PLENTY of evidence for everything you and the media lip sync the words "there is no evidence" to. YOU JUST MAKE EXCUSES AND USE LEGAL TECHNICALITIES TO AVOID EVEN LOOKING AT IT, MUCH LESS CONSIDERING IT.
So if I’m understanding you correctly, a few years ago, the FBI created this pipe bomber, then refused to investigate him, just so five years later, we could find them and tell us that he thought the election was stolen. They really are careful, clever people at the FBI, aren’t they?
One reason conspiracies fall apart is that they just take way too much effort to make them happen.
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Re: So why IS he pardoning them?
You might want to hold your powder on this one.Weyoun wrote: ↑Fri Dec 05, 2025 10:18 amIt was reported on the news this morning that the pipe bomber thought that the 2020 election was stolen. (I bet you thought he was in favor of Biden because he’s black.)flockofseagulls104 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 05, 2025 9:40 amHere is just one example. And there is more and more being revealed every day. What about the J6 pipe bomber? What about Ray Epps, SSS? What is your story on him? Why do you ignore things right in front of your face and accept ridiculous explanations for things there is no excuse for? For years you ignore shit and accept the lies you are being told, even after they are revealed unquestionably as lies.silverscreenselect wrote: ↑Fri Dec 05, 2025 4:34 am
Of course, there has never been any evidence successfully presented about those "dozens of FBI and other swamp plants in the crowd" in any of the J6 defendants' trials. And who were then sentenced by corrupt judges to outrageously harsh sentences.
But for now, let's just add two more definitions to the flock dictionary. It reads:
We now add:
"Trump derangement syndrome (TDS)" - pointing out unpleasant facts about Donald Trump
"corrupt judge" - any judge who returns a decision Flock doesn't like. Corrupt judges preside over kangaroo courts and often base their decisions on technicalities.
There is PLENTY of evidence for everything you and the media lip sync the words "there is no evidence" to. YOU JUST MAKE EXCUSES AND USE LEGAL TECHNICALITIES TO AVOID EVEN LOOKING AT IT, MUCH LESS CONSIDERING IT.
So if I’m understanding you correctly, a few years ago, the FBI created this pipe bomber, then refused to investigate him, just so five years later, we could find them and tell us that he thought the election was stolen. They really are careful, clever people at the FBI, aren’t they?
One reason conspiracies fall apart is that they just take way too much effort to make them happen.
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Re: So why IS he pardoning them?
Maybe he’s saying that to get sympathy from the FBI. He doesn’t come across as a very honest fellow.
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Re: So why IS he pardoning them?
Central to whitefailure’s Jan 6 fantasies is a belief that people like himself are important. They are not. If you stopped existing tomorrow, I would continue on my way. Your car would be impounded. You add nothing to society except for toxic content and weird beliefs
You are so filthy.
You are so filthy.
Well, then
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Re: So why IS he pardoning them?
Never mind. Not worth it.Beebs52 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 05, 2025 4:53 pmCentral to whitefailure’s Jan 6 fantasies is a belief that people like himself are important. They are not. If you stopped existing tomorrow, I would continue on my way. Your car would be impounded. You add nothing to society except for toxic content and weird beliefs
You are so filthy.
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Re: So why IS he pardoning them?
After consulting the local brain trust, we have determined that Trump pardoned all these crooks because “something Joe Biden.”