The president is calling for congressmen to be murdered

[Weyoun]

Sure, but it’s other people who are wacko. He’s not a crazy demented fool, no sir.

Let’s not lose site of other things.

Today the CDC announced an impossible to prove statement, that we can’t show that vaccines don’t cause autism. Such stuff is meant to kill people.

Oh, and back channels, not involving either Ukraine or Europe, are trying to arrange for Ukraine to surrender even more territory to Russia in exchange for peace.

And, apparently, we will just never get October employment numbers.

I’m sure some parents were separated from their kids by government forces also, but that’s mundane at this point.

Shove your autopens up your asses.

[flockofseagulls104]

No, he ain't. Just to be clear: seditious Democrat members of Congress called for a military coup against our Constitution. If tried and found guilty of such, the penalty is death. That's just the truth of the matter.

If you're going to post shit like that, PROVE IT and be accurate.
Otherwise, just shove it.

[silverscreenselect]

No, he ain't. Just to be clear: seditious Democrat members of Congress called for a military coup against our Constitution. If tried and found guilty of such, the penalty is death.

The Democratic Representatives and Senators, who were all military veterans, including former astronaut Mark Kelly, the Senator from Arizona, issued a statement reminding the military:

The threats to our Constitution aren't just coming from abroad, but from right here at home. Our laws are clear. You can refuse illegal orders. No one has to carry out orders that violate the law or our Constitution.

Retired service members are subject to the UCMJ. However, sedition requires "intent to cause the overthrow or destruction of lawful civil authority." What Kelly and the others said can't by any stretch of the imagination be deemed an intent to cause the overthrow or destruction of lawful civil authority. And members of the military are not required to obey unlawful orders. In fact, obeying unlawful orders is no defense to criminal prosecution. Lt. William Calley is probably the best-known example of that.

Article 90 [of the UCMJ], which covers the rules over "Willfully Disobeying Superior Commissioned Officer," explicitly prohibits orders that "without such a valid military purpose, interfere with private rights or personal affairs."

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/militar ... =127725085

Flock, you might be better served if you actually read and understood what you are citing, rather than blindly cutting and pasting what someone on Twitter tells you to.

[flockofseagulls104]

So, SSS, explain to me what the hell this video clip was about. What frickin illegal order were they referring to?

This bullshit has to stop. Maybe holding someone at long last accountable would help. I'm at the point that considering charging these farging iceholes with treason might not be a bad idea.

[jarnon]

Hypothetical situations where this could occur: Soldiers are ordered to use tear gas on peaceful protestors in violation of a court order. Military pilots illegally fly ICE detainees out of the country. More far-fetched, and I pray it never happens: In a confrontation with local law enforcement, troops are ordered to shoot.

[silverscreenselect]

I'm at the point that considering charging these farging iceholes with treason might not be a bad idea.

Once again, you demonstrate that you have no idea what treason is in the legal sense. I've probably explained this to you a dozen times. If you don't know what a word means, don't use it because you think it sounds neat.

[tlynn78]

Hypothetical situations where this could occur: Soldiers are ordered to use tear gas on peaceful protestors in violation of a court order. Military pilots illegally fly ICE detainees out of the country. More far-fetched, and I pray it never happens: In a confrontation with local law enforcement, troops are ordered to shoot.

Ah yes, the "make shit up then get mad about it" tactic; another step in the Left's plan to go full-on stupid.

[flockofseagulls104]

I'm at the point that considering charging these farging iceholes with treason might not be a bad idea.

Once again, you demonstrate that you have no idea what treason is in the legal sense. I've probably explained this to you a dozen times. If you don't know what a word means, don't use it because you think it sounds neat.

Got a lot of nerve saying that after what your mutta fargin iceholes did with j6.

[flockofseagulls104]

Hypothetical situations where this could occur: Soldiers are ordered to use tear gas on peaceful protestors in violation of a court order. Military pilots illegally fly ICE detainees out of the country. More far-fetched, and I pray it never happens: In a confrontation with local law enforcement, troops are ordered to shoot.

Ah yes, the "make shit up then get mad about it" tactic; another step in the Left's plan to go full-on stupid.

Plan? It's been on display for awhile.

[silverscreenselect]

Got a lot of nerve saying that after what your mutta fargin iceholes did with j6.

The next time a large mob of antifa activists storm the Capitol steps, you can talk to me about that.

[tlynn78]

Hypothetical situations where this could occur: Soldiers are ordered to use tear gas on peaceful protestors in violation of a court order. Military pilots illegally fly ICE detainees out of the country. More far-fetched, and I pray it never happens: In a confrontation with local law enforcement, troops are ordered to shoot.

Ah yes, the "make shit up then get mad about it" tactic; another step in the Left's plan to go full-on stupid.

Plan? It's been on display for awhile.

I didn't say it was a SECRET plan...

[flockofseagulls104]

Got a lot of nerve saying that after what your mutta fargin iceholes did with j6.

The next time a large mob of antifa activists storm the Capitol steps, you can talk to me about that.

It's like talking to a brick wall with people like you. It is now apparently obvious that the whole J6 thing was a setup from the start. How many FBI plants were there in that crowd, SSS? Why did they claim there were none? Why did Ray Epps escape the political prisoner status that so many who did NOTHING that day were subjected to? Why so many LIES about who was killed that day? Why has Ashley Babbit's killer escaped any punishment? Why did Pelosi refuse the National Guard? WHY DO PEOPLE LIKE YOU JUST IGNORE THIS EVIDENCE? I submit it's for the same reason you ignore the evidence that the 2020 election might not have been the most accurate and secure election on the face of the planet, and censored, cancelled, prosecuted, jailed and took shots at anyone who questioned that narrative.

If you are going to debate something, at least take your head out of the sand and address legitimate points and evidence that have been presented instead of starting from scratch every time.

[flockofseagulls104]

The threats to our Constitution aren't just coming from abroad, but from right here at home. Our laws are clear. You can refuse illegal orders. No one has to carry out orders that violate the law or our Constitution.

Retired service members are subject to the UCMJ. However, sedition requires "intent to cause the overthrow or destruction of lawful civil authority." What Kelly and the others said can't by any stretch of the imagination be deemed an intent to cause the overthrow or destruction of lawful civil authority. And members of the military are not required to obey unlawful orders. In fact, obeying unlawful orders is no defense to criminal prosecution. Lt. William Calley is probably the best-known example of that.

First of all, SSS, you know as well as I do that this video by these elected representatives was directed at, and meant to disparage, one person. President Donald J. Trump.

The case of Lt. William Calley was one officer going off the deep end, either misinterpreting his orders or deliberately killing indiscriminately. He was held accountable. He was tried and served the sentence that was handed down to him. He died in Florida last year.

These democrat representatives are advising individual soldiers or military officers to take it upon themselves to decide whether to obey orders. Are they all to consult a damn lawyer to advise them on legality of every order they are given? This is advocating chaos at the least, sedition in the form of advocating the overiding of lawful military authority at the most. But that's what you democrats do nowadays. All in the name of your one and only platform: Trump is the devil.

As for calling for people to be murdered? Stop calling us nazis, fascists, white supremacists, etc then maybe we can talk.

[silverscreenselect]

It is now apparently obvious that the whole J6 thing was a setup from the start. How many FBI plants were there in that crowd, SSS?

Let me see if I have this straight. All these people were FBI plants.



Flock your ability for self-delusion keeps growing day by day.

I submit it's for the same reason you ignore the evidence that the 2020 election might not have been the most accurate and secure election on the face of the planet,

You mean the same evidence that 60 courts have chosen to ignore.

[flockofseagulls104]

It is now apparently obvious that the whole J6 thing was a setup from the start. How many FBI plants were there in that crowd, SSS?

Let me see if I have this straight. All these people were FBI plants.



Flock your ability for self-delusion keeps growing day by day.

I submit it's for the same reason you ignore the evidence that the 2020 election might not have been the most accurate and secure election on the face of the planet,

You mean the same evidence that 60 courts have chosen to ignore.

Exactly. They have decided to ignore the evidence. Somehow the only people that have "standing" to be in court on any election integrity issue don't live on earth. You should know this since you live in Fulton County GA, the most corrupt place in the country.

[Weyoun]

A quick update. Our secretary of defense, Kegsbreath, ordered our military to swing back by and shoot people bobbing up and down in the water.

That would be a war crime, but we knew that, because we also all immediately knew what those Congressfolks were talking about when they said that soldiers should make sure they don’t obey illegal orders (we have not gotten to the point yet to where the secretary of defense has instructed our troops to shoot Americans, yet).

Happy holidays

[Beebs52]

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... narco-boat
Maybe not true. Must check sources dude.

[silverscreenselect]

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... narco-boat
Maybe not true. Must check sources dude.

Wow! Hegseth denies giving orders that might constitute an international war crime. He must be innocent.

[Weyoun]

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... narco-boat
Maybe not true. Must check sources dude.

Lol. Okay.

Maybe Kegsbreath can tell us about how mirrors work next:

https://www.threads.com/@keithedwards/p ... oto-if-you

[flockofseagulls104]

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... narco-boat
Maybe not true. Must check sources dude.

Wow! Hegseth denies giving orders that might constitute an international war crime. He must be innocent.

Wow! The Washington Post found some unnamed, anonymous source to accuse the Trump Administration of some heinous crime or other. What day is it?

[silverscreenselect]

Wow! The Washington Post found some unnamed, anonymous source to accuse the Trump Administration of some heinous crime or other. What day is it?

House and Senate committees launch inquiries into reported second strike on alleged drug boat

The top Republican and Democrat on the GOP-led Senate Armed Services Committee said in a statement Friday that the committee was aware of recent reports. “The Committee has directed inquiries to the [Department of Defense], and we will be conducting vigorous oversight to determine the facts related to these circumstances,” Sens. Roger Wicker, R-Miss., and Jack Reed, D-R.I., said in the statement.

The Republican-led House Armed Services Committee followed suit Saturday, with Reps. Mike Rogers, R-Ala., and Adam Smith, D-Wash., issuing a joint statement saying the House Committee is “committed to providing rigorous oversight of the Department of Defense’s military operations in the Caribbean.” “We take seriously the reports of follow-on strikes on boats alleged to be ferrying narcotics in the SOUTHCOM region and are taking bipartisan action to gather a full accounting of the operation in question,” Rogers and Smith wrote.

Some people seem to be taking this seriously.

[jarnon]

Aircraftman 1st Class Abraham (‘Abe’) Grunis (my distant cousin) was an airman of the Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve who died during the Second World War.

He was born the youngest son of Asher and Hannah Grunis. His Polish father, who became the Rabbi of Cardiff, was naturalized in Britain with Abraham on 12 August 1931.

Grunis was captured in 1942 when the Japanese invaded and occupied the island of Java. He died the following year, on 29 November, on board the ‘hell ship’ Suez Maru. The ship, transporting more than 500 Allied sick POWs from work camps on the Moluccas and Ambon, was torpedoed off the Kangean Islands by the American submarine USS Bonefish. Those who survived the sinking were killed in the water by the Japanese minesweeper W.12. There were no survivors.

[flockofseagulls104]

Wow! The Washington Post found some unnamed, anonymous source to accuse the Trump Administration of some heinous crime or other. What day is it?

House and Senate committees launch inquiries into reported second strike on alleged drug boat

The top Republican and Democrat on the GOP-led Senate Armed Services Committee said in a statement Friday that the committee was aware of recent reports. “The Committee has directed inquiries to the [Department of Defense], and we will be conducting vigorous oversight to determine the facts related to these circumstances,” Sens. Roger Wicker, R-Miss., and Jack Reed, D-R.I., said in the statement.

The Republican-led House Armed Services Committee followed suit Saturday, with Reps. Mike Rogers, R-Ala., and Adam Smith, D-Wash., issuing a joint statement saying the House Committee is “committed to providing rigorous oversight of the Department of Defense’s military operations in the Caribbean.” “We take seriously the reports of follow-on strikes on boats alleged to be ferrying narcotics in the SOUTHCOM region and are taking bipartisan action to gather a full accounting of the operation in question,” Rogers and Smith wrote.

Some people seem to be taking this seriously.

Some people take anything said against Trump seriously. They are, for the most part, not serious people. People like you who believe Trump praised white supremacists in Charlottesville and incited an insurrection on Jan 6, and still believe these things and other things too numerous to list despite gobs of contradictory evidence.

[Weyoun]

Wow! The Washington Post found some unnamed, anonymous source to accuse the Trump Administration of some heinous crime or other. What day is it?

House and Senate committees launch inquiries into reported second strike on alleged drug boat

The top Republican and Democrat on the GOP-led Senate Armed Services Committee said in a statement Friday that the committee was aware of recent reports. “The Committee has directed inquiries to the [Department of Defense], and we will be conducting vigorous oversight to determine the facts related to these circumstances,” Sens. Roger Wicker, R-Miss., and Jack Reed, D-R.I., said in the statement.

The Republican-led House Armed Services Committee followed suit Saturday, with Reps. Mike Rogers, R-Ala., and Adam Smith, D-Wash., issuing a joint statement saying the House Committee is “committed to providing rigorous oversight of the Department of Defense’s military operations in the Caribbean.” “We take seriously the reports of follow-on strikes on boats alleged to be ferrying narcotics in the SOUTHCOM region and are taking bipartisan action to gather a full accounting of the operation in question,” Rogers and Smith wrote.

Some people seem to be taking this seriously.

Some people take anything said against Trump seriously. They are, for the most part, not serious people. People like you who believe Trump praised white supremacists in Charlottesville and incited an insurrection on Jan 6, and still believe these things and other things too numerous to list despite gobs of contradictory evidence.

These are Republicans in Congress, like Roger Wicker. He is from Mississippi - hardly the hot bet of communism. Also former Air Force.

[flockofseagulls104]

House and Senate committees launch inquiries into reported second strike on alleged drug boat



Some people seem to be taking this seriously.

Some people take anything said against Trump seriously. They are, for the most part, not serious people. People like you who believe Trump praised white supremacists in Charlottesville and incited an insurrection on Jan 6, and still believe these things and other things too numerous to list despite gobs of contradictory evidence.

These are Republicans in Congress, like Roger Wicker. He is from Mississippi - hardly the hot bet of communism. Also former Air Force.

What, so you consider Congress a hotbed of wisdom?