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Charlie Kirk has been shot

#1 Post by BackInTex » Wed Sep 10, 2025 1:19 pm

Conservative commentator Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University event
Conservative commentator Charlie Kirk was shot on Wednesday at an event at Utah Valley University in Orem, Utah, Fox News reported, citing a spokesperson for the influential ally of U.S. President Donald Trump.
"Charlie Kirk has been shot at Utah Valley University. Condition unknown," the spokesperson told Fox, which reported that Kirk had been taken to a hospital.
Video of the incident circulating on social media showed Kirk addressing a large outdoor crowd when a loud crack that sounded like a gunshot rang out. Kirk can be seen briefly moving his hand to his neck as he falls off his chair, sending the attendees running.
Alledged shooter is in custody.
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#2 Post by Beebs52 » Wed Sep 10, 2025 2:46 pm

According to cbs news breakin he died.
Well, then

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#3 Post by jarnon » Wed Sep 10, 2025 3:01 pm

Donald J. Trump wrote:The Great, and even Legendary, Charlie Kirk, is dead. No one understood or had the Heart of the Youth in the United States of America better than Charlie. He was loved and admired by ALL, especially me, and now, he is no longer with us. Melania and my Sympathies go out to his beautiful wife Erika, and family. Charlie, we love you!
Law enforcement has not confirmed this, so keep praying for Kirk. Also, police have questioned people on the scene but has not identified anyone as a suspect.
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#4 Post by Beebs52 » Wed Sep 10, 2025 3:17 pm

It's confirmed by many sources
Well, then

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#5 Post by Bob78164 » Wed Sep 10, 2025 3:32 pm

BackInTex wrote:
Wed Sep 10, 2025 1:19 pm
Alledged shooter is in custody.
Stories I've seen say that there's still an active search for the shooter, who was apparently about 200 yards away. --Bob
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#6 Post by Weyoun » Wed Sep 10, 2025 3:34 pm

Just awful. Things are worse every day.

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#7 Post by Beebs52 » Wed Sep 10, 2025 3:53 pm

Weyoun wrote:
Wed Sep 10, 2025 3:34 pm
Just awful. Things are worse every day.
You need to work on your sarcasm. Not vitriol.
Well, then

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#8 Post by BackInTex » Wed Sep 10, 2025 4:29 pm

Bob78164 wrote:
Wed Sep 10, 2025 3:32 pm
BackInTex wrote:
Wed Sep 10, 2025 1:19 pm
Alledged shooter is in custody.
Stories I've seen say that there's still an active search for the shooter, who was apparently about 200 yards away. --Bob
I saw that. The original article said they had a suspect in custody. Hopefully they will catch the coward alive.
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#9 Post by Beebs52 » Wed Sep 10, 2025 4:41 pm

Someone was talked to about obstruction of justice
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#10 Post by Weyoun » Wed Sep 10, 2025 4:44 pm

Beebs52 wrote:
Wed Sep 10, 2025 3:53 pm
Weyoun wrote:
Wed Sep 10, 2025 3:34 pm
Just awful. Things are worse every day.
You need to work on your sarcasm. Not vitriol.
I wasn't being sarcastic, or vitriolic. It's sad, and I am sure the next murder will use this to justify itself.

"Fuck off" is being vitriolic.

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#11 Post by Beebs52 » Wed Sep 10, 2025 4:54 pm

Weyoun wrote:
Wed Sep 10, 2025 4:44 pm
Beebs52 wrote:
Wed Sep 10, 2025 3:53 pm
Weyoun wrote:
Wed Sep 10, 2025 3:34 pm
Just awful. Things are worse every day.
You need to work on your sarcasm. Not vitriol.
I wasn't being sarcastic, or vitriolic. It's sad, and I am sure the next murder will use this to justify itself.

"Fuck off" is being vitriolic.
I truly thought you were being sarcastic. My apologies.
Unfortunately people rate murders vis a vis whatever they believe in. I see you do that, regardless,sometimes, even if you don't mean it?
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#12 Post by jarnon » Wed Sep 10, 2025 5:18 pm

Beebs52 wrote:
Wed Sep 10, 2025 3:17 pm
It’s confirmed by many sources
Utah officials have confirmed Kirk’s murder. RIP
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#13 Post by tlynn78 » Wed Sep 10, 2025 6:26 pm

jarnon wrote:
Wed Sep 10, 2025 5:18 pm
Beebs52 wrote:
Wed Sep 10, 2025 3:17 pm
It’s confirmed by many sources
Utah officials have confirmed Kirk’s murder. RIP
It sounds like they've got the asshole perp in custody.
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#14 Post by BackInTex » Wed Sep 10, 2025 6:28 pm

And they held and released two suspects so far. None in custody at this time.
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#15 Post by kroxquo » Wed Sep 10, 2025 8:21 pm

jarnon wrote:
Wed Sep 10, 2025 3:01 pm
Donald J. Trump wrote:The Great, and even Legendary, Charlie Kirk, is dead. No one understood or had the Heart of the Youth in the United States of America better than Charlie. He was loved and admired by ALL, especially me, and now, he is no longer with us. Melanie and my Sympathies go out to his beautiful wife Erika, and family. Charlie, we love you!
Law enforcement has not confirmed this, so keep praying for Kirk. Also, police have questioned people on the scene but has not identified anyone as a suspect.
Is that a typo or did he spell his wife's name wrong?
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#16 Post by jarnon » Wed Sep 10, 2025 8:37 pm

kroxquo wrote:
Wed Sep 10, 2025 8:21 pm
jarnon wrote:
Wed Sep 10, 2025 3:01 pm
Donald J. Trump wrote:The Great, and even Legendary, Charlie Kirk, is dead. No one understood or had the Heart of the Youth in the United States of America better than Charlie. He was loved and admired by ALL, especially me, and now, he is no longer with us. Melanie and my Sympathies go out to his beautiful wife Erika, and family. Charlie, we love you!
Law enforcement has not confirmed this, so keep praying for Kirk. Also, police have questioned people on the scene but has not identified anyone as a suspect.
Is that a typo or did he spell his wife's name wrong?
Autocorrect error, sorry. I fixed Erica and missed Melanie.
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#17 Post by Spock » Wed Sep 10, 2025 9:12 pm

Forever glad that I chose to watch the 2024 Election Night newstream with Charlie Kirk and the gang.

It was something special to watch at the time and now has hardened into a diamond in memory.

I was obviously somewhat familiar with Charlie Kirk prior to that-but I really had not paid a lot of attention and I learned a lot at that time.

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#18 Post by Spock » Wed Sep 10, 2025 9:12 pm

Forever glad that I chose to watch the 2024 Election Night newstream with Charlie Kirk and the gang.

It was something special to watch at the time and now has hardened into a diamond in memory.

I was obviously somewhat familiar with Charlie Kirk prior to that-but I really had not paid a lot of attention and I learned a lot at that time.

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#19 Post by flockofseagulls104 » Thu Sep 11, 2025 6:20 am

This is what we lost yesterday.

We will carry on his work.
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#20 Post by jarnon » Thu Sep 11, 2025 8:35 am

flockofseagulls104 wrote:
Thu Sep 11, 2025 6:20 am
This is what we lost yesterday.

We will carry on his work.
I admire Kirk’s devotion to religious morality as the foundation of our society. Any law, no matter how well crafted, can be corrupted if officials disregard the ethics behind it. (Just yesterday, I happened to be thinking that our honest justice system is based not on any amendment, but on the 9th commandment.)

I’m disturbed, though, by Kirk’s reliance on Christian values. While the Founders were overwhelmingly Protestant and relied on the Bible, most religions have similar principles. Even today, judicial candidates who happen to be Muslim are asked if they will base their rulings on Shariah. Jewish college students have to avow that our love of Israel as the Biblical Holy Land doesn’t imply support for Bibi’s atrocities. Since our country was founded, religious liberty, for all faiths, has been as fundamental as any of the morals that Kirk venerates.
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#21 Post by flockofseagulls104 » Thu Sep 11, 2025 9:15 am

This event is sad and tragic, but it brings forward and exposes certain things.

This guy, Matthew Dowd, was a commentator for MSNBC. He was eventually fired yesterday for these remarks he made in reference to the Kirk assassination.

He knew absolutely nothing about Charlie Kirk. Charlie Kirk never spoke a hateful word in his life. He was all about speaking to young people and debating them with reason and logic. He would speak to anyone, anywhere, any time on any subject. That's what he did. The hate ALL came from people like Dowd.

Dowd is not an isolated incident. It is all over the democrat party and the legacy media. They are not even trying to hide it anymore. And the hatred people like Dowd have is not limited to Charlie Kirk. Some call it TDS, but it is more than that. For many people in our society, politics has become their religion. We have some of it here on the bored. The most virulent example is Weyoun, who frequently resorts to anger and linguistic violence when he gets frustrated.

I have my opinions, and they are strongly held. But I will try to emulate Charlie Kirk's example from now on, and not resort to name-calling and vitriol. But I will not stand for hypocrisy, and I will stand for what is right and not back down to the utter nonsense and intimidation spouted by the left.
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#22 Post by Bob78164 » Thu Sep 11, 2025 11:45 am

For those (including the person speaking from the Oval Office yesterday) tempted to condemn Democrats or an "out-of-control left" for yesterday's assassination, let's not forget Melissa Hortman.

Or the plot to kidnap Governor Whitmer.

Or January 6. --Bob
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#23 Post by jarnon » Thu Sep 11, 2025 12:39 pm

On MSNBC, Sen. Kelly (who has heartbreaking first-hand knowledge) expressed sympathy and condemned political violence.

Gov. Shapiro (who recently survived a firebomb attack) lowered flags here to half staff for three days. That upset the left.
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#24 Post by flockofseagulls104 » Thu Sep 11, 2025 1:15 pm

Bob78164 wrote:
Thu Sep 11, 2025 11:45 am
For those (including the person speaking from the Oval Office yesterday) tempted to condemn Democrats or an "out-of-control left" for yesterday's assassination, let's not forget Melissa Hortman.

Or the plot to kidnap Governor Whitmer.

Or January 6. --Bob
Well, Bob, we won't forget Butler, PA or Ryan Routh. We won't forget Steve Scalese. We won't forget Ashley Babbit, who was arguably the only one killed on Jan 6, if you classify Rosanne Boyland's death as an overdose. Want to do a tit for tat?

Are you prepared for the riots in multiple cities in response to Charlie's assassination? Don't hold your breath for a George Floyd reaction. We don't do that. You conveniently ignored that President Trump told the crowd to be 'peaceful and patriotic', yet your leaders went so far as to excuse the '6 foot' rule in the Covid lockdown to encourage the 'mostly peaceful' Floyd protests.

What we definitely won't forget is the rhetoric. Being called nazis, facists, threats to YOUR democracy, transphobes, homophobes, xenophobes, etc. The ubiquitous and never-ending race-baiting. That is all BS, and most of you know it, but you go on doing it. Because it makes a big impression on the lunatics and useful idiots on your side of the fence.

There are people cataloging and publishing posts from 'BlueSky' making or suggesting the next 'targets' after Kirk. I showed the unfiltered reaction of Matthew Dowd on MSLSD. How many others with his disgusting mindset did not have the benefit of being on live TV? No, your side does not seem to be under control.

You refuse to debate and resort to the above once your initial argument is refuted. What Charlie Kirk was good at was listening and talking to people who didn't agree with him and getting them to reason with him if they were capable of doing so. Name one person who can do that who represents the democrat party or the left, Bob....
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#25 Post by Bob78164 » Thu Sep 11, 2025 3:12 pm

Quick quiz: Who said, "And why is [David DePape, the man who took a hammer to Paul Pelosi's skull] still in jail? Why has he not been bailed out? By the way, if some amazing patriot out there in San Francisco or the Bay Area wants to be a midterm hero, someone should go and bail this guy out"?

Political violence is completely unacceptable. But this is not someone whose life should be celebrated or held up as an example of anything. He's no martyr. I certainly won't say that he got what he deserved -- no one deserves what happened to him, and again, political violence is completely unacceptable. But I will say he directly contributed to the atmosphere where it was more likely.

Lowering flags to half-staff for him? Awarding him the Medal of Freedom? That turns my stomach. --Bob
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