John Edwards endorses Barack Obama

[ne1410s]

From the AP.

Also, the Pope is Catholic. Bears defacate in the woods. Rose Kennedy owned a black dress.

[themanintheseersuckersuit]

That's a "famous name" that probably wouldn't get you on WWTBAM

[silverscreenselect]

Edwards gives his talk to Obama supporters and starts out first by congratulating Hillary for running a historic campaign.

Lots of booing from the crowd.

Exactly how is it that Obama wants to bring Hillary's supporters onboard for the general election?

Moronic Obama supporters will be an issue in a general election campaign against McCain and every time they manage to get on TV making a**holes out of themselves, it's going to drive more voters away from him.

[mrkelley23]

Edwards gives his talk to Obama supporters and starts out first by congratulating Hillary for running a historic campaign.

Lots of booing from the crowd.

Exactly how is it that Obama wants to bring Hillary's supporters onboard for the general election?

Moronic Obama supporters will be an issue in a general election campaign against McCain and every time they manage to get on TV making a**holes out of themselves, it's going to drive more voters away from him.

Did you not watch Hillary's speeches before and after West Virginia?

Every time she tried to say something nice or conciliatory about Obama, there were loud boos.

There are plenty of morons in America.

[themanintheseersuckersuit]

Speaking of America's Moron Quotient

[NellyLunatic1980]

Speaking of America's Moron Quotient

That, I believe, is offensive to actual sex workers.

[themanintheseersuckersuit]

[quote="NellyLunatic1980"
That, I believe, is offensive to actual sex workers.[/quote]

How about real Bros?

[NellyLunatic1980]

That, I believe, is offensive to actual sex workers.

How about real Bros?

Since I am of a multiracial background as Obama is, I will not comment.

[PlacentiaSoccerMom]

Speaking of America's Moron Quotient

I always thought that the nasty word Ho was pluralized as Hos.

So, I think that they are referring to Hillary as a garden implement, which doesn't really make sense.

[Kazoo65]

I got to see the whole speech on live TV-the NBC station from Grand Rapids devoted lots of air time to this story.

They showed picures of people lining up to get into Van Andel Arena (which seats about 12.000 people) before noon. This event was a BIG DEAL in this part of the world. Grand Rapids is a traditionally conversative Republican stronghold.

The speech was really good. He attacked McCain, saying he was going to do the same things GWB is doing. He kept talking about a "wall" that seperates the people from the government, and how when he's President, he's going to tear the wall down.

There was lots of booing when Edwards mentioned Hillary Clinton's name. I wonder how she feels now that she lost a big endorsment. I bet this hurts her campaign.

There was talk about Edwards being the VP nominee (again). I doubt he'd want to do that a second time. We'll see soon enough.

[BackInTex]

I always thought that the nasty word Ho was pluralized as Hos.

So, I think that they are referring to Hillary as a garden implement, which doesn't really make sense.

Maybe Dan Quayle is behind the poster.

[Jeemie]

He kept talking about a "wall" that seperates the people from the government, and how when he's President, he's going to tear the wall down.

Now I know I won't vote for Obama.

I want as many barriers between me and government as possible.

Every time the government tries to "help", it screws things up even more.

I want government to STOP trying to help us!!! We can't take too much more "help".

[NellyLunatic1980]

They showed picures of people lining up to get into Van Andel Arena (which seats about 12.000 people) before noon. This event was a BIG DEAL in this part of the world. Grand Rapids is a traditionally conversative Republican stronghold.

Not just any Republican stronghold, but Gerry Ford territory.

[Bob78164]

I always thought that the nasty word Ho was pluralized as Hos.

So, I think that they are referring to Hillary as a garden implement, which doesn't really make sense.

Obviously they went to the Ken Jennings school of trash talk. --Bob

[Bob78164]

Every time the government tries to "help", it screws things up even more.

Medicare. Social Security. We, as a nation, are far better off with them than without them. And but for government, they wouldn't exist. --Bob

[silverscreenselect]

It's very interesting that a mass email went out last night from Edwards to a lot of Democratic contributors asking for money for one of Edwards' pet projects, a college fund. Either he got these mailing lists from the DNC or from Obama, and from what I've been able to gather, the logistics of this type of emailing so soon after the endorsement would have been pretty sophisticated.

I guess we now know Edwards' asking price.

[MarleysGh0st]

He kept talking about a "wall" that seperates the people from the government, and how when he's President, he's going to tear the wall down.

There goes your cubicle, ear!

[wbtravis007]

I always thought that the nasty word Ho was pluralized as Hos.

So, I think that they are referring to Hillary as a garden implement, which doesn't really make sense.

Maybe Dan Quayle is behind the poster.

I know somebody who likes to hose hos, especially if garter belts and hose are involved.

And, quite a few people like to hose their hoes after belting garters.

[earendel]

He kept talking about a "wall" that seperates the people from the government, and how when he's President, he's going to tear the wall down.

There goes your cubicle, ear!

That explains why my boss was measuring my cubicle - to see how much effort it would take to take down the walls.

Maybe I should paraphrase Ronald Reagan: "Mr. Obama, DON'T tear down these walls!"

[5LD]

SSS:

I got Edward's email last night and everyone I know who received it had given him money or were members of his One Corps Group -- pretty sure it is not what you imply.

AND -- I am not an Obama supporter but you have nearly single handedly made me one with your incessant negative posting about him. I am shocked at the vehement outcries from you (and other Hillary supporters I run into elsewhere) about how McCain would be a better choice than Obama. Grow the freak up. If you're a liberal, support the nominee who most closely aligns with your views. McCain ain't liberal and ain't moderate (despite the way he's characterized in the media). Put your petty feelings aside and do what is right for the country.

[silverscreenselect]

SSS:

I got Edward's email last night and everyone I know who received it had given him money or were members of his One Corps Group -- pretty sure it is not what you imply.

A lot of people who got the email were not Edwards supporters and had never donated money to him or signed up on his websites, etc.

So he got the list from somewhere and he sent the information out the very night he endorses Obama. Maybe a coincidence; maybe not.

As far as Obama's being a progressive, let's just say that he keeps his cards close to the vest. He's very good at getting people to think they'll get whatever agenda they want, but if you look at his actual positions and what he's said from time to time, there's a lot of shifting positions.

Ironically, the Republicans are painting him as an ultra-liberal Bernie Sanders type, which he definitely isn't. I do know that I do want what's best for this country, and electing an inexperienced, race baiting, demagogic hypocrite isn't it.

[wintergreen48]

I do know that I do want what's best for this country, and electing an inexperienced, race baiting, demagogic hypocrite isn't it.

Then why are you supporting Hillary?

[Bob78164]

I do know that I do want what's best for this country, and electing an inexperienced, race baiting, demagogic hypocrite isn't it.

Then why are you supporting Hillary?

Who says brevity is a lost art? --Bob

[Sir_Galahad]

McCain ain't liberal and ain't moderate (despite the way he's characterized in the media).

Well, then, what the heck is he because he sure ain't a conservative!

Someone who promotes the global warming hysteria and is, really, all for doing nothing about the illegal migration problem and has shown no proclivity to reducing government cannot be called a conservative.

[mrkelley23]

McCain ain't liberal and ain't moderate (despite the way he's characterized in the media).

Well, then, what the heck is he because he sure ain't a conservative!

Someone who promotes the global warming hysteria and is, really, all for doing nothing about the illegal migration problem and has shown no proclivity to reducing government cannot be called a conservative.

As always, to paraphrase one of the Conservatives' favorite targets, it depends on what your definition of "conservative" is.

But let's look at your concerns point by point:

"Promotes the global warming hysteria": I guess you're referring to McCain's recent statement that one of his first term goals would be to do the cap-and-trade thing on greenhouse emissions. Is it the fact that he actually has a concrete plan to do something that irritates you? I mean, the whole trade-emissions-credits thing on the open market is the essence of some free-market solutions to air pollution. Notice I am not referencing GW, although I'm sure that McCain mentions such, because he's no dummy as a politician. But the action he's suggesting has been called free market by more than one "conservative."

"all for doing nothing about the immigration problem": McCain actually has a pretty activist record on the immigration problem. You just don't agree with what he wants to do. Since you don't agree, and you're a conservative, then he must not be, right? I'm certainly not a conservative in the modern sense (interesting oxymoron there) but McCain's record on immigration is pretty close to a lot of popular self-described conservatives, including our current commander in chief. Of course, those "conservatives" go running for the hills when there's an election coming. The big difference is that McCain continues to say what he believes on this issue. And by recent standards, you're right, that takes him pretty far out of the conservative movement.

"shown no proclivity for reducing goverment": This one really makes me laugh. Considering that the hero of modern conservatives, Ronald Reagan, expanded government more than any other twentieth century president, and that our current compassionate conservative shattered Ronnie's record, McCain is a ferocious fiscal conservative by comparison. He's on record as being against earmarks, and for all the unintended consequences, the McCain-Feingold bill was supposed to be about reducing one aspect of government.

There's plenty to criticize McCain about, from both sides of the fence. It just strikes me funny that you chose three issues where he actually is on the free-market, fiscal conservative side of things to criticize him for.