Australian with working visa detained and deported on returning to US from sister’s memorial
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Australian with working visa detained and deported on returning to US from sister’s memorial
It's deeply concerning to see that an Australian citizen holding a valid U.S. working visa was detained and deported upon returning to the U.S. after attending his sister's memorial service. Despite having re-entered the U.S. multiple times on the same visa without issues, he was subjected to harsh treatment by border officials, including derogatory remarks and the statement, "Trump is back in town." This incident highlights the unpredictability and potential harshness of immigration enforcement, even for individuals with valid documentation.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... d-deported
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... d-deported
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Re: Australian with working visa detained and deported on returning to US from sister’s memorial
And you just assume there isn’t more to the story. SMH
Probably 100s if not 1000s of similarly papered Australians come into the US each week with no issue. Why this one single guy your news picks up and reports?
Probably 100s if not 1000s of similarly papered Australians come into the US each week with no issue. Why this one single guy your news picks up and reports?
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Re: Australian with working visa detained and deported on returning to US from sister’s memorial
You mean to tell me that we can't draw conclusions from one example?
Goodness, I guess you must also think that while the death of Laken Riley was a tragedy, it can't be used to support the argument that people can be just disappeared into Salvadoran prisons.
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Re: Australian with working visa detained and deported on returning to US from sister’s memorial
You can draw conlusions from one example all you want. You'll be wrong most of the time. But you're comfortable with that, I know.Weyoun wrote: ↑Sun Apr 13, 2025 9:21 amYou mean to tell me that we can't draw conclusions from one example?
Goodness, I guess you must also think that while the death of Laken Riley wasn't a tragedy, it can't be used to support the argument that people can be just disappeared into Salvadoran prisons.
And, you comparing one man being deported for reasons we don't know (of course you're assuming there is no reason, not even being able to claim your racist skin color rant ) to the proven rape and murder of a woman is pathetic.
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Re: Australian with working visa detained and deported on returning to US from sister’s memorial
It’s not pathetic at all. We have a gentleman from Maryland, who is legally supposed to be here, yet was scooped away with his autistic kid in the backseat of the car, and sent back to the place he was escaping from because of that place was dangerous to him.BackInTex wrote: ↑Mon Apr 14, 2025 6:44 amYou can draw conlusions from one example all you want. You'll be wrong most of the time. But you're comfortable with that, I know.Weyoun wrote: ↑Sun Apr 13, 2025 9:21 amYou mean to tell me that we can't draw conclusions from one example?
Goodness, I guess you must also think that while the death of Laken Riley wasn't a tragedy, it can't be used to support the argument that people can be just disappeared into Salvadoran prisons.
And, you comparing one man being deported for reasons we don't know (of course you're assuming there is no reason, not even being able to claim your racist skin color rant ) to the proven rape and murder of a woman is pathetic.
Given the legal wrangling, I think it’s actually fair to draw a lot of conclusions about this one case, since the Trump administration has essentially said that any one of us can be shipped to El Salvador and nothing can be done, since it’s a foreign policy matter.
The strange thing is, that same administration can arrange for the Tate Brothers to be expedited from Romania, so it’s unclear to me why this guy can’t get pulled out.
So you’re actually correct. It’s not correct for me to simply use this as a single example and say that we can’t draw conclusions, or compare it to an anecdote of your choosing.
In fact, since the Trump administration has made arguments in open court supporting this awful policy, I think we can draw a lot of conclusions about how horrible they are, and how horrible the supporters of administration are.
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Re: Australian with working visa detained and deported on returning to US from sister’s memorial
See, that is where you are wrong.He is not from Maryland, and he is not supposed to be be here.
and yes..."might"BBC wrote:Mr Ábrego García, 29, entered the US from El Salvador illegally as a teenager. In 2019, he was arrested with three other men in Maryland and detained by federal immigration authorities.
He was subsequently granted protection from deportation on the grounds that he might be at risk of persecution from local gangs in his home country.
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Re: Australian with working visa detained and deported on returning to US from sister’s memorial
Thanks for making my point, again. Yes he was arrested after someone said that a bunch of guys were in a gang. But then after being arrested, he was released because he wasn’t in the gang. Or at least there was no evidence of that. That’s awfully important though!BackInTex wrote: ↑Mon Apr 14, 2025 8:40 amSee, that is where you are wrong.He is not from Maryland, and he is not supposed to be be here.
and yes..."might"BBC wrote:Mr Ábrego García, 29, entered the US from El Salvador illegally as a teenager. In 2019, he was arrested with three other men in Maryland and detained by federal immigration authorities.
He was subsequently granted protection from deportation on the grounds that he might be at risk of persecution from local gangs in his home country.
The larger point is, if he was in a gang in 2019, and is not now, what actually is the problem or the danger to anyone?
The even larger point is you’re using words like “might” critically, but if there’s a doubt about something, there’s something called a habeas corpus hearing that can sort out all the doubts. He was denied that.
You carry water for totalitarianism.
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Re: Australian with working visa detained and deported on returning to US from sister’s memorial
By golly, I was in a murderous gang 6 years ago and found Jesus. Yes. Certainly.
Well, then
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Re: Australian with working visa detained and deported on returning to US from sister’s memorial
An informant said I was in a gang six years ago. I was arrested while waiting on a construction job, and my kid was in the backseat of the car when I was nabbed.
I can’t imagine dealing with that scenario as a parent. If he’s a gang member, it must not be a very tough gang.
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https://wset.com/news/nation-world/dhs- ... affic-stopWeyoun wrote: ↑Thu Apr 24, 2025 7:26 amAn informant said I was in a gang six years ago. I was arrested while waiting on a construction job, and my kid was in the backseat of the car when I was nabbed.
I can’t imagine dealing with that scenario as a parent. If he’s a gang member, it must not be a very tough gang.
Sometimes one has to dig deeper when investigating, as I'm sure you agree with.
Well, then
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Re: Australian with working visa detained and deported on returning to US from sister’s memorial
Of course. Could you direct this to ICE though? They didn’t seem to be aware of this when they grabbed the guy because he was Latin.Beebs52 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 24, 2025 2:09 pmhttps://wset.com/news/nation-world/dhs- ... affic-stopWeyoun wrote: ↑Thu Apr 24, 2025 7:26 amAn informant said I was in a gang six years ago. I was arrested while waiting on a construction job, and my kid was in the backseat of the car when I was nabbed.
I can’t imagine dealing with that scenario as a parent. If he’s a gang member, it must not be a very tough gang.
Sometimes one has to dig deeper when investigating, as I'm sure you agree with.
Though - Grabbing people leaving their kids in the backseat, usually requires a little bit more justification than being the driver of a vehicle four years ago.
Especially when this is getting pulled out this week, as they keep trying to find some reason to keep this guy in a prison.
Oh, and please don’t pussyfoot around this. Let’s say that in 2019 his wife thought about a restraining order and didn’t. Or let’s say he was driving this vehicle in 2022. Why does any of that mean he should go to this hell hole prison in El Salvador?
Even if I grant this story is true, you have absolutely zero ground to stand on based on what’s happening to this guy.
Keep defending the indefensible. These little compromises are what start. Then comes the gassings.
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Re: Australian with working visa detained and deported on returning to US from sister’s memorial
They should simply slap a MAGA hat on these fine upstanding folks - the Left would lose interest real quick.Weyoun wrote: ↑Fri Apr 25, 2025 7:10 amOf course. Could you direct this to ICE though? They didn’t seem to be aware of this when they grabbed the guy because he was Latin.Beebs52 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 24, 2025 2:09 pmhttps://wset.com/news/nation-world/dhs- ... affic-stopWeyoun wrote: ↑Thu Apr 24, 2025 7:26 am
An informant said I was in a gang six years ago. I was arrested while waiting on a construction job, and my kid was in the backseat of the car when I was nabbed.
I can’t imagine dealing with that scenario as a parent. If he’s a gang member, it must not be a very tough gang.
Sometimes one has to dig deeper when investigating, as I'm sure you agree with.
Though - Grabbing people leaving their kids in the backseat, usually requires a little bit more justification than being the driver of a vehicle four years ago.
Especially when this is getting pulled out this week, as they keep trying to find some reason to keep this guy in a prison.
Oh, and please don’t pussyfoot around this. Let’s say that in 2019 his wife thought about a restraining order and didn’t. Or let’s say he was driving this vehicle in 2022. Why does any of that mean he should go to this hell hole prison in El Salvador?
Even if I grant this story is true, you have absolutely zero ground to stand on based on what’s happening to this guy.
Keep defending the indefensible. These little compromises are what start. Then comes the gassings.
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Re: Australian with working visa detained and deported on returning to US from sister’s memorial
Maybe he could have finger tattoos that say C U N T! So many possibilities.tlynn78 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 25, 2025 1:42 pmThey should simply slap a MAGA hat on these fine upstanding folks - the Left would lose interest real quick.Weyoun wrote: ↑Fri Apr 25, 2025 7:10 amOf course. Could you direct this to ICE though? They didn’t seem to be aware of this when they grabbed the guy because he was Latin.
Though - Grabbing people leaving their kids in the backseat, usually requires a little bit more justification than being the driver of a vehicle four years ago.
Especially when this is getting pulled out this week, as they keep trying to find some reason to keep this guy in a prison.
Oh, and please don’t pussyfoot around this. Let’s say that in 2019 his wife thought about a restraining order and didn’t. Or let’s say he was driving this vehicle in 2022. Why does any of that mean he should go to this hell hole prison in El Salvador?
Even if I grant this story is true, you have absolutely zero ground to stand on based on what’s happening to this guy.
Keep defending the indefensible. These little compromises are what start. Then comes the gassings.
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Re: Australian with working visa detained and deported on returning to US from sister’s memorial
If you insist on soiling the Bored, could you at least try for some originality? I guess we can be grateful you seem o have at least temporarily moved on from your anal fixation. I suppose having your head up there fulfills that need.Weyoun wrote: ↑Fri Apr 25, 2025 4:24 pmMaybe he could have finger tattoos that say C U N T! So many possibilities.tlynn78 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 25, 2025 1:42 pmThey should simply slap a MAGA hat on these fine upstanding folks - the Left would lose interest real quick.Weyoun wrote: ↑Fri Apr 25, 2025 7:10 am
Of course. Could you direct this to ICE though? They didn’t seem to be aware of this when they grabbed the guy because he was Latin.
Though - Grabbing people leaving their kids in the backseat, usually requires a little bit more justification than being the driver of a vehicle four years ago.
Especially when this is getting pulled out this week, as they keep trying to find some reason to keep this guy in a prison.
Oh, and please don’t pussyfoot around this. Let’s say that in 2019 his wife thought about a restraining order and didn’t. Or let’s say he was driving this vehicle in 2022. Why does any of that mean he should go to this hell hole prison in El Salvador?
Even if I grant this story is true, you have absolutely zero ground to stand on based on what’s happening to this guy.
Keep defending the indefensible. These little compromises are what start. Then comes the gassings.
To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead. -Thomas Paine
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Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities. -Voltaire
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Re: Australian with working visa detained and deported on returning to US from sister’s memorial
S O I L might work, too
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Re: Australian with working visa detained and deported on returning to US from sister’s memorial
O V A L T I N E
Well, then
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Re: Australian with working visa detained and deported on returning to US from sister’s memorial
Well, there's that...
Well, then