What undecided voters care about

[jarnon]

FACT SHEET: Biden-⁠Harris Administration Launches New Effort to Crack Down on Everyday Headaches and Hassles That Waste Americans’ Time and Money

Things like gym memberships that are impossible to cancel, and unhelpful customer service recordings and chatbots.

Trump, to his credit, has battled pet peeves like restrictions on incandescent light bulbs, inadequate water pressure in showers and toilets, and windmills that kill birds. Sometimes he blames them on environmentalism run amok. The problem is that his life of luxury makes him unaware of problems that regular Americans face.

This initiative can appeal to voters who don’t follow politics and want government to address their everyday concerns.

[Beebs52]

These are all lovely things that the candidates can't fix. I WANT AN AGENT.

Oh please.

[flockofseagulls104]

This is Kamala's plan.

She is playing to and counting on the ignorance of the average democrat. Once again, they will do something that will cause extensive damage in the long run for short-term political gain.

Price controls DON''T WORK. They never have and never will. These companies work on a margin. The MARKET controls prices. To do what Kamala's handlers propose will inevitably lead to food shortages. They always have and they always will. Anyone who thinks this is a good idea is a FOOL!

And by even proposing this. Harris confirms that she is a fool.

[flockofseagulls104]

Here's a likely outcome of Price controls on groceries.

1. The government announces that grocery retailers aren’t allowed to raise prices.

2. Grocery stores, which operate on 1-2% net margins, can’t survive if their suppliers raise prices. So the government announces that food producers (Kraft Heinz, ConAgra, Tyson, Hormel, et. al.) also aren’t allowed to raise prices.

3. Not all grocery stores are created equal. Stores in lower-income areas make less money than those in higher-income areas, as the former disproportionately sell lower-margin prepackaged foods (“center of the store”) instead of higher-margin fresh products like meat (“perimeter of the store”). Because stores in lower-income areas aren’t able to cover overhead (remember, even if their wholesale costs are fixed, their labor, utilities, insurance, and other operating expenses aren’t fixed… yet), grocery chains start to shut them down. Food deserts in rural areas and in low-income urban areas alike become worse.

4. Meanwhile, margins for food producers are also quickly eroding. Their primary costs (ingredients, energy, and labor) aren’t fixed, and their shrinking gross profits leave less cash flow available to cover overhead, maintain facilities, and reinvest in additional production capacity.

5. Grocery chains, which have finite shelf space, start to repurpose their stores (those they didn’t have to shut down, I should say) to sell more non-price-controlled items—everything from nutrition supplements to kitchenware to apparel—and less price-controlled food products. Your local Kroger or Safeway starts to look and feel more like a Walmart.

6. Food producers stop making products with lower margins. Grocery chain start competing with each other to secure inventory. Since they can’t compete by offering stronger prices (remember, producers aren’t allowed to raise prices here, and, even if they could, grocery chains no longer have the gross profit to bear price increases), they compete on things like payment terms.

7. Small grocery chains start to shut down entirely, or get sold to larger chains like Kroger. In addition to not being able to cover fixed costs, a major reason for this is because they can no longer reliably secure delivery of products, due to producers prioritizing sales to larger customers, which are able to leverage their stronger balance sheets to offer superior payment terms.

8. Smaller food producers—which typically sell via distributors, rather than directly to grocery chains—start to go out of business. Because these producers have an additional step their value chains, and because they have lower volumes over which to spread their fixed costs, their cost structure is inherently disadvantaged compared to major food producers. When grocery stores aren’t able to raise prices, cutting product costs becomes all the more important, and deprioritizing purchases from smaller producers is an easy way to do so.

9. As supply chains break down, lines start to form outside grocery stores every morning. Cities assign police officers to patrol store parking lots, and food producers draft contingency plans to assign armed escorts to delivery trucks.

10. The federal government announces a program to issue block grants for states to purchase and operate shuttered grocery stores. The USDA also seizes closed-down production facilities.

11. The government announces that prices for all key food costs—corn, wheat, cattle, energy, etc.—are also now fixed, to stop “profiteers” from gouging the now-government-operated food industry.

12. Shockingly, the government struggles to operate one of the most complex industries on the planet. The entire food supply chain starts imploding.

13. Communism, mass starvation, and the end of America quickly ensue.

Apply for your ration card now.

[flockofseagulls104]

Oh, some more evidence that this administration is lying to you.

But you're happy to believe the lies. Cause Kamala is joyful, I guess.

[earendel]

Oh, some more evidence that this administration is lying to you.

But you're happy to believe the lies. Cause Kamala is joyful, I guess.

The BLS makes periodic adjustments to their statistics - although this one was the largest since 2009. But you need to check your X feed because Trump is claiming that this report "leaked out" so that it wouldn't be released before the election. I don't see how the administration can be said to be lying when the BLS, a Federal agency, put the numbers out.

[flockofseagulls104]

Oh, some more evidence that this administration is lying to you.

But you're happy to believe the lies. Cause Kamala is joyful, I guess.

The BLS makes periodic adjustments to their statistics - although this one was the largest since 2009. But you need to check your X feed because Trump is claiming that this report "leaked out" so that it wouldn't be released before the election. I don't see how the administration can be said to be lying when the BLS, a Federal agency, put the numbers out.

I am not surprised you don't see.

[flockofseagulls104]

What undecided voters should know. You lefties don't care. You agree with her.

[earendel]

Oh, some more evidence that this administration is lying to you.

But you're happy to believe the lies. Cause Kamala is joyful, I guess.

The BLS makes periodic adjustments to their statistics - although this one was the largest since 2009. But you need to check your X feed because Trump is claiming that this report "leaked out" so that it wouldn't be released before the election. I don't see how the administration can be said to be lying when the BLS, a Federal agency, put the numbers out.

I am not surprised you don't see.

So explain it to me, as you would a child. (Galaxy Quest paraphrase)

[flockofseagulls104]

The BLS makes periodic adjustments to their statistics - although this one was the largest since 2009. But you need to check your X feed because Trump is claiming that this report "leaked out" so that it wouldn't be released before the election. I don't see how the administration can be said to be lying when the BLS, a Federal agency, put the numbers out.

I am not surprised you don't see.

So explain it to me, as you would a child. (Galaxy Quest paraphrase)

OK, go run along with BJ and travis. Have fun now, but be careful. And look both ways before you cross the street.

[BackInTex]

The BLS makes periodic adjustments to their statistics - although this one was the largest since 2009. But you need to check your X feed because Trump is claiming that this report "leaked out" so that it wouldn't be released before the election. I don't see how the administration can be said to be lying when the BLS, a Federal agency, put the numbers out.

I really don't think you're that naive, and you are typically non-partisan, though leaning to the left.

But seriously? You don't see how the administration can be said to be lying when the BLS, a Federal agency, put the number out?

Erika L. McEntarfer is the Commissioner of the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics. For most of her career she had been an economic researcher at the U.S. Census Bureau.

McEntarfer was nominated for the BLS post in July, 2023 (current administraion), and confirmed to the position by the U.S. Senate in January, 2024.[1][2][3] She started in the position on January 31, 2024.

She's a Biden appointee.

[earendel]

The BLS makes periodic adjustments to their statistics - although this one was the largest since 2009. But you need to check your X feed because Trump is claiming that this report "leaked out" so that it wouldn't be released before the election. I don't see how the administration can be said to be lying when the BLS, a Federal agency, put the numbers out.

I really don't think you're that naive, and you are typically non-partisan, though leaning to the left.

But seriously? You don't see how the administration can be said to be lying when the BLS, a Federal agency, put the number out?

Which number? The one they originally released, or the one they released this week? And I say "released", not "leaked", as Trump accused. The figures are based on an algorithm which is adjusted periodically. And surely such a downturn in the job numbers isn't a good look for the Democrats,

[flockofseagulls104]

The BLS makes periodic adjustments to their statistics - although this one was the largest since 2009. But you need to check your X feed because Trump is claiming that this report "leaked out" so that it wouldn't be released before the election. I don't see how the administration can be said to be lying when the BLS, a Federal agency, put the numbers out.

I really don't think you're that naive, and you are typically non-partisan, though leaning to the left.

But seriously? You don't see how the administration can be said to be lying when the BLS, a Federal agency, put the number out?

Which number? The one they originally released, or the one they released this week? And I say "released", not "leaked", as Trump accused. The figures are based on an algorithm which is adjusted periodically. And surely such a downturn in the job numbers isn't a good look for the Democrats,

The dems have shown a decided lack of interest in numbers and facts. They have 'joy'!

[earendel]

I really don't think you're that naive, and you are typically non-partisan, though leaning to the left.

But seriously? You don't see how the administration can be said to be lying when the BLS, a Federal agency, put the number out?

Which number? The one they originally released, or the one they released this week? And I say "released", not "leaked", as Trump accused. The figures are based on an algorithm which is adjusted periodically. And surely such a downturn in the job numbers isn't a good look for the Democrats,

The dems have shown a decided lack of interest in numbers and facts. They have 'joy'!

Which has nothing to do with the original statement you made about the government lying because of the job numbers being revised.

[flockofseagulls104]

Which number? The one they originally released, or the one they released this week? And I say "released", not "leaked", as Trump accused. The figures are based on an algorithm which is adjusted periodically. And surely such a downturn in the job numbers isn't a good look for the Democrats,

The dems have shown a decided lack of interest in numbers and facts. They have 'joy'!

Which has nothing to do with the original statement you made about the government lying because of the job numbers being revised.

You don't think our government has been lying to us? About a great many things?

[earendel]

The dems have shown a decided lack of interest in numbers and facts. They have 'joy'!

Which has nothing to do with the original statement you made about the government lying because of the job numbers being revised.

You don't think our government has been lying to us? About a great many things?

You originally said that the BLS statistics were an example of the government lying to us. I tried to argue to the contrary with respect to that particular claim. That's not to say that the government doesn't lie. ALL governments lie; it's in their nature.

[tlynn78]

Which has nothing to do with the original statement you made about the government lying because of the job numbers being revised.

You don't think our government has been lying to us? About a great many things?

You originally said that the BLS statistics were an example of the government lying to us. I tried to argue to the contrary with respect to that particular claim. That's not to say that the government doesn't lie. ALL governments lie; it's in their nature.

Google that "strength through joy" slogan, Ear.

[flockofseagulls104]

Which has nothing to do with the original statement you made about the government lying because of the job numbers being revised.

You don't think our government has been lying to us? About a great many things?

You originally said that the BLS statistics were an example of the government lying to us. I tried to argue to the contrary with respect to that particular claim. That's not to say that the government doesn't lie. ALL governments lie; it's in their nature.

So now you're picking up on another one of the deflection techniques. Picking a small minute point to wind out on, avoiding the main point.

Ear, the democrat puppet campaign has been trumpeting that they are 'job creators'. Never mind the fact that most of the jobs they have 'created' have been part time and government jobs and recovering some of the jobs that were lost due to the bogus, disastrous shutdowns that were imposed.

Now it's been found that the numbers that they were touting were wrong. Very much wrong. Are they going to correct their statements? Of course not. They will never do so. They will probably double down because they know the media conglomerate will never question them like they do anything and every word that trump does or says.
I have no way of knowing if they tried to hide it and it leaked. But I would not be surprised. My question is why did it take them so long to catch their error? There seems to be a whole lot of things going on (errors, unsolved cases, missing information, silence about important issues, etc etc) with this administration that have never happened before.

[Beebs52]

You don't think our government has been lying to us? About a great many things?

You originally said that the BLS statistics were an example of the government lying to us. I tried to argue to the contrary with respect to that particular claim. That's not to say that the government doesn't lie. ALL governments lie; it's in their nature.

Google that "strength through joy" slogan, Ear.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strength_Through_Joy

Don't they vet sayings, mantras etc before releasing them?

[kroxquo]

You originally said that the BLS statistics were an example of the government lying to us. I tried to argue to the contrary with respect to that particular claim. That's not to say that the government doesn't lie. ALL governments lie; it's in their nature.

Google that "strength through joy" slogan, Ear.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strength_Through_Joy

Don't they vet sayings, mantras etc before releasing them?

As far as I know, she never used the phrase "strength through joy." That has been ascribed to her by Conservative outlets like the Washington Times. Admittedly, I did not watch any of the DNC (or the RNC for that matter) so if you can show me an example of her using that phrase I will retract this.

[Beebs52]

We need Kamala Harris, the president of joy, to lead us.”
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/21/us/p ... peech.html

Clinton. Granted "strenghth" isn't in there, but if you basically google Germany, Stalin, Mao they're all about joy. Just saying.

[Weyoun]

We need Kamala Harris, the president of joy, to lead us.”
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/21/us/p ... peech.html

Clinton. Granted "strenghth" isn't in there, but if you basically google Germany, Stalin, Mao they're all about joy. Just saying.

That’s right. The person who talks about joy is totalitarian, but the one actually campaigning on rounding up people and putting them into camps is not

[Beebs52]

You are um I dunno, wandering a bit. But that's okay.

[tlynn78]

I wonder what undecideds think of the gangs of illegals taking over apartment complexes in Aurora and Chicago.

[Beebs52]

We need Kamala Harris, the president of joy, to lead us.”
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/21/us/p ... peech.html

Clinton. Granted "strenghth" isn't in there, but if you basically google Germany, Stalin, Mao they're all about joy. Just saying.

That’s right. The person who talks about joy is totalitarian, but the one actually campaigning on rounding up people and putting them into camps is not

Rounding up people, like peeps who cross the border illegally and who have been "rounded up" for years? Where have you been? I know. Joy is such an uplifting mantra. Write a dystopian book why don't you. You're amusing.