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#1 Post by Bob Juch » Fri Jul 19, 2024 12:53 pm

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Early on, police at the scene said the cut was caused by glass. Tom was using an AR-15 rifle, an astonishingly common weapon in the US. The Washington Post reported that there are enough of these rifles for one in twenty Americans, and you can buy them online. However, an injury caused by an AR-15 should cause much more damage than this.

Yet, Trump is widely proclaiming that a bullet "pierced" his ear. As you can see, the ear is intact and not pierced. This injury seems much more typical of a shrapnel wound. However, there were three shots fired; one person was killed, and two were critically wounded. The media has stopped asking questions about it. Why? We want to know why the media has stopped asking questions. Usually, after an event like this, we get detailed reports about the trajectory of each bullet and medical reports. One person was killed, two critically wounded, and all we hear about is Trump's ear? Yet there have been no medical reports about Trump's ear. As for the picture of a bullet speeding towards Trump, the trajectory is wrong; it's too low to have hit Trump's ear. It must have sped past him. So, what caused this injury? We want to know. Is this even real blood? We can't ever believe anything Trump says.

Trump then shows up at the Republican National Convention with a BIG bandage over his ear, even though he had only a small bandaid on it while golfing the day after the incident.

Everyone seems to accept that this was an assassination attempt, partly because Biden and Pelosi have graciously accepted it as such. But what if it wasn't? What if it was a hoax, a lie, like the "Big Lie" of the supposedly stolen election? Biden and Pelosi could have said, "We don't know anything; it's early days yet, let's wait until the FBI finishes their investigation," while making dark insinuations or overt accusations about this being FAKE. In the meantime, Republicans did no such waiting: JD Vance and Rep. Jim Banks (the GOP nominee for the Senate in Indiana) immediately accused Democrats of "shooting Trump."

Here's the thing about Republicans, especially Trump: they often accuse others of what they are doing. You couple that with the fist pump and Trump milking the big white bandage, and it adds up to:

Republicans shot Trump! Well, shot at him, anyway. In his vicinity. But would they be so cavalier about human life? Would they be so vile, so low, to cause some excitement around Trump and make him look like a hero? It does seem odd that the Secret Service "didn't see" the shooter until after he got three shots off.

Of course, maybe they asked young Tom to shoot over everyone's heads.

Here's how it could have gone down: let's say Tom Crooks loved Trump. True fan. And someone reached out to him. We asked him to do this. "We need you. You will save America. You donated $15 to a Dem cause; we saw that we have the record. People will believe this, that the Dems were out to murder President Trump." Tom actually did make that donation: Snopes did an exhaustive fact-check. A Thomas Crooks from his home address donated $15 the day Biden was inaugurated.

You wouldn't want anyone with a real hatred for Trump doing this, not someone who is a good shot with real bullets. Somehow, Tom agreed to go along with it. Young people can be manipulated. Older people too, but young ones especially. And maybe it was even promised to him that he could get out of it, that Trump would be magnanimous and pardon him: young boy and all that misguided youth. There would be a photo op with the Big Man shaking his hand. Forgiveness is divine.

Of course, they would need a true believer to do this. The shooter would have to be a crack shot to make it believable and someone rock solid for Trump—someone who could be flattered.

But then Tom thought he'd make it look really real. He was a good shot, a great shot. Instead of shooting over everyone's heads (which would have been plenty believable; it was so far, after all), Tom thought he would make it really, really close. Maybe even graze Trump's ear. And so the Secret Service had to "blow his head off," which is what one bystander said they did. Or maybe the Secret Service always meant to kill him, no matter what had been promised to him. So he could never, ever talk.
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Re: Conspiracy theory

#2 Post by BackInTex » Fri Jul 19, 2024 1:10 pm

Is this your delusion, AI, or someone else's?
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Re: Conspiracy theory

#3 Post by wbtravis007 » Fri Jul 19, 2024 2:39 pm

BackInTex wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2024 1:10 pm
Is this your delusion, AI, or someone else's?
If you were Roger Stone, or his equivalent in the Biden Administration or campaign, which would be easier for you to pull off?

1. Finding a town anywhere in the country where the people involved in law enforcement were strong Trump supporters and might be willing to help the cause with what could be described as a "dirty trick," and then finding a troubled fool in that town that could be duped into doing something really stupid, and then scheduling a rally at this perfect spot; or

2. Trying to set up a conspiracy that would involve the co-operation of many people to actually attempt to assassinate Trump once the time and place of a rally was announced by the Trump campaign.

Funny, too, how the only doctor whom we know of who has described and treated the ear is Ronnie Jackson.

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#4 Post by BackInTex » Fri Jul 19, 2024 3:06 pm

wbtravis007 wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2024 2:39 pm
BackInTex wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2024 1:10 pm
Is this your delusion, AI, or someone else's?
If you were Roger Stone, or his equivalent in the Biden Administration or campaign, which would be easier for you to pull off?

1. Finding a town anywhere in the country where the people involved in law enforcement were strong Trump supporters and might be willing to help the cause with what could be described as a "dirty trick," and then finding a troubled fool in that town that could be duped into doing something really stupid, and then scheduling a rally at this perfect spot; or

2. Trying to set up a conspiracy that would involve the co-operation of many people to actually attempt to assassinate Trump once the time and place of a rally was announced by the Trump campaign.

Funny, too, how the only doctor whom we know of who has described and treated the ear is Ronnie Jackson.
Not even sure what you're suggesting with the two scenarios. I'm not sure you do either.

How many doctors do you think should treat, and speak out, about the ear. Two, three? What's the number?
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#5 Post by wbtravis007 » Fri Jul 19, 2024 3:14 pm

BackInTex wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2024 3:06 pm
wbtravis007 wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2024 2:39 pm
BackInTex wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2024 1:10 pm
Is this your delusion, AI, or someone else's?
If you were Roger Stone, or his equivalent in the Biden Administration or campaign, which would be easier for you to pull off?

1. Finding a town anywhere in the country where the people involved in law enforcement were strong Trump supporters and might be willing to help the cause with what could be described as a "dirty trick," and then finding a troubled fool in that town that could be duped into doing something really stupid, and then scheduling a rally at this perfect spot; or

2. Trying to set up a conspiracy that would involve the co-operation of many people to actually attempt to assassinate Trump once the time and place of a rally was announced by the Trump campaign.

Funny, too, how the only doctor whom we know of who has described and treated the ear is Ronnie Jackson.
Not even sure what you're suggesting with the two scenarios. I'm not sure you do either.

How many doctors do you think should treat, and speak out, about the ear. Two, three? What's the number?
Not sure what the problem is. Do you not know who Roger Stone is? Anyway, it's not complicated. One is describing a plot by the Trump campaign (the first one) and the other is describing a plot by the Biden campaign (the second one).

The second one, of course, would be something along the lines of what you've seemed to suggest here might have occurred. Feel free, though, to describe that second plot in a different manner if you'd like.

One reliable doctor would be enough for me.

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#6 Post by flockofseagulls104 » Fri Jul 19, 2024 3:25 pm

Oh, man. Stop this lunacy.
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#7 Post by BackInTex » Fri Jul 19, 2024 3:27 pm

wbtravis007 wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2024 3:14 pm
BackInTex wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2024 3:06 pm
wbtravis007 wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2024 2:39 pm


If you were Roger Stone, or his equivalent in the Biden Administration or campaign, which would be easier for you to pull off?

1. Finding a town anywhere in the country where the people involved in law enforcement were strong Trump supporters and might be willing to help the cause with what could be described as a "dirty trick," and then finding a troubled fool in that town that could be duped into doing something really stupid, and then scheduling a rally at this perfect spot; or

2. Trying to set up a conspiracy that would involve the co-operation of many people to actually attempt to assassinate Trump once the time and place of a rally was announced by the Trump campaign.

Funny, too, how the only doctor whom we know of who has described and treated the ear is Ronnie Jackson.
Not even sure what you're suggesting with the two scenarios. I'm not sure you do either.

How many doctors do you think should treat, and speak out, about the ear. Two, three? What's the number?
Not sure what the problem is. Do you not know who Roger Stone is? Anyway, it's not complicated. One is describing a plot by the Trump campaign (the first one) and the other is describing a plot by the Biden campaign (the second one).

The second one, of course, would be something along the lines of what you've seemed to suggest here might have occurred. Feel free, though, to describe that second plot in a different manner if you'd like.

One reliable doctor would be enough for me.
Oh, niether of your plans would work. Both have too many gaps. Glad you aren't in charge of assasinations.

Reliable? Do you know something about Ronnie Jackson that the rest of us don't know? Or by reliable, you mean mouthy or gossipy? Not really good qualities for a doctor.
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#8 Post by wbtravis007 » Fri Jul 19, 2024 3:41 pm

BackInTex wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2024 3:27 pm
wbtravis007 wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2024 3:14 pm
BackInTex wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2024 3:06 pm


Not even sure what you're suggesting with the two scenarios. I'm not sure you do either.

How many doctors do you think should treat, and speak out, about the ear. Two, three? What's the number?
Not sure what the problem is. Do you not know who Roger Stone is? Anyway, it's not complicated. One is describing a plot by the Trump campaign (the first one) and the other is describing a plot by the Biden campaign (the second one).

The second one, of course, would be something along the lines of what you've seemed to suggest here might have occurred. Feel free, though, to describe that second plot in a different manner if you'd like.

One reliable doctor would be enough for me.
Oh, niether of your plans would work. Both have too many gaps. Glad you aren't in charge of assasinations.

Reliable? Do you know something about Ronnie Jackson that the rest of us don't know? Or by reliable, you mean mouthy or gossipy? Not really good qualities for a doctor.
Never mind. It appears that my comparison of the two scenarios is just over your head.

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Re: Conspiracy theory

#9 Post by tlynn78 » Fri Jul 19, 2024 4:03 pm

wbtravis007 wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2024 3:41 pm
BackInTex wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2024 3:27 pm
wbtravis007 wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2024 3:14 pm


Not sure what the problem is. Do you not know who Roger Stone is? Anyway, it's not complicated. One is describing a plot by the Trump campaign (the first one) and the other is describing a plot by the Biden campaign (the second one).

The second one, of course, would be something along the lines of what you've seemed to suggest here might have occurred. Feel free, though, to describe that second plot in a different manner if you'd like.

One reliable doctor would be enough for me.
Oh, niether of your plans would work. Both have too many gaps. Glad you aren't in charge of assasinations.

Reliable? Do you know something about Ronnie Jackson that the rest of us don't know? Or by reliable, you mean mouthy or gossipy? Not really good qualities for a doctor.
Never mind. It appears that my comparison of the two scenarios is just over your head.
Sure. That's it. :lol:
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#10 Post by wbtravis007 » Fri Jul 19, 2024 4:29 pm

tlynn78 wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2024 4:03 pm
wbtravis007 wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2024 3:41 pm
BackInTex wrote:
Fri Jul 19, 2024 3:27 pm


Oh, niether of your plans would work. Both have too many gaps. Glad you aren't in charge of assasinations.

Reliable? Do you know something about Ronnie Jackson that the rest of us don't know? Or by reliable, you mean mouthy or gossipy? Not really good qualities for a doctor.
Never mind. It appears that my comparison of the two scenarios is just over your head.
Sure. That's it. :lol:
Yeah. You’re right.

Should have said that it went over his head, in that it’s probably more a matter of him not taking the time to read closely enough to get it, or just being deliberately obtuse about it.

I can see why he chose not to respond to my suggestion that he go ahead and change my scenario #2 in any way to describe more to his liking any plausible plot by Biden or some other leftist force that would be put into place after the announcement of the scheduling of the rally.

Now all of a sudden plausibility is in play for all the people who have been popping off about a conspiracy? Surprise, surprise.

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#11 Post by Spock » Sat Jul 20, 2024 1:44 pm

Well, I did not have everybody suddenly becoming an expert on wound ballistics on my July Bingo Card.

Oh, no-somebody who was spared a fatal headshot by millimeters MIGHT have mischaracterized the wound in the first few days after.

>>>"Yet, Trump is widely proclaiming that a bullet "pierced" his ear. As you can see, the ear is intact and not pierced."<<<

Yeah, it appears intact-if you don't count the big chunk taken out of it.

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#12 Post by Spock » Sat Jul 20, 2024 1:58 pm

>>>"However, an injury caused by an AR-15 should cause much more damage than this."<<<<

No, it shouldn't. It is a rifle bullet that hit a thin body part composed of cartilage, not some magical exploding atomic device.

Other than possibly Weyoun, I am guessing I have seen far more bullet wounds through decades of hunting and farm animal euthanasia than anyone here and most idiots who come up with stories like in the original post.

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#13 Post by jarnon » Sat Jul 20, 2024 2:17 pm

It took my entire ear off. The whole ear. But I went to the doctor, and he said, and this is true, he said, you heal faster than anyone I've ever seen. Nobody is healthier than you. And the next day, my ear was growing back, and the doctor said, nobody regrows ears like that, and its a really remarkable thing, regrowing an ear like that, most people can't do it. And I know that, because its not me saying this, its the doctor, its everybody saying, just, you're the best at regrowing ears.
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#14 Post by flockofseagulls104 » Sat Jul 20, 2024 2:38 pm

Since everybody and their sister is speculating on everything, and nobody really knows anything, and we're not likely ever to know anything, let's speculate on this:

Suppose the assassination attempt succeeded. And hundreds of people recorded it on their phones, like we are seeing now. What would have happened? How would everything be explained? What would the official narrative be? Who would be held accountable, if anyone?
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#15 Post by Spock » Sat Jul 20, 2024 3:14 pm

>>>"
But then Tom thought he'd make it look really real. He was a good shot, a great shot. Instead of shooting over everyone's heads (which would have been plenty believable; it was so far, after all), Tom thought he would make it really, really close. Maybe even graze Trump's ear."<<<

The part that impresses me the most is how they planned out Trump's last second turn of the head with "Tom." That took some real Roger Stone planning.

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#16 Post by wbtravis007 » Sat Jul 20, 2024 3:23 pm

Spock wrote:
Sat Jul 20, 2024 3:14 pm
>>>"
But then Tom thought he'd make it look really real. He was a good shot, a great shot. Instead of shooting over everyone's heads (which would have been plenty believable; it was so far, after all), Tom thought he would make it really, really close. Maybe even graze Trump's ear."<<<

The part that impresses me the most is how they planned out Trump's last second turn of the head with "Tom." That took some real Roger Stone planning.
The point is he wasn’t shot, Bwana Sherlock.

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#17 Post by Spock » Sat Jul 20, 2024 3:35 pm

wbtravis007 wrote:
Sat Jul 20, 2024 3:23 pm
Spock wrote:
Sat Jul 20, 2024 3:14 pm
>>>"
But then Tom thought he'd make it look really real. He was a good shot, a great shot. Instead of shooting over everyone's heads (which would have been plenty believable; it was so far, after all), Tom thought he would make it really, really close. Maybe even graze Trump's ear."<<<

The part that impresses me the most is how they planned out Trump's last second turn of the head with "Tom." That took some real Roger Stone planning.
The point is he wasn’t shot, Bwana Sherlock.
WTF????

Oh, yeah that's right-you postulated a few days ago that he has explosives planted in all his extremities so if real gunfire ever went off at an event they could blow off whichever ear/nose/finger/toe was more believable based on where the shooter was.

I hadn't seen the picture in the original post before-but assuming it is not doctored -the wound looked roughly like I expected. Rifle bullet to the ear.
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#18 Post by wbtravis007 » Sat Jul 20, 2024 3:40 pm

Spock wrote:
Sat Jul 20, 2024 3:35 pm
wbtravis007 wrote:
Sat Jul 20, 2024 3:23 pm
Spock wrote:
Sat Jul 20, 2024 3:14 pm
>>>"
But then Tom thought he'd make it look really real. He was a good shot, a great shot. Instead of shooting over everyone's heads (which would have been plenty believable; it was so far, after all), Tom thought he would make it really, really close. Maybe even graze Trump's ear."<<<

The part that impresses me the most is how they planned out Trump's last second turn of the head with "Tom." That took some real Roger Stone planning.
The point is he wasn’t shot, Bwana Sherlock.
WTF????

Oh, yeah that's right-you postulated a few days ago that he has explosives planted in all his extremities so if real gunfire ever went off at an event they could blow off whichever ear/nose/finger/toe was more believable based on where the shooter was.
Nope. The plan was to inflict a minor but bloody cut on the ear somehow— many different ways to do that — or to use fake blood.

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#19 Post by Spock » Sat Jul 20, 2024 3:44 pm

wbtravis007 wrote:
Sat Jul 20, 2024 3:40 pm
Spock wrote:
Sat Jul 20, 2024 3:35 pm
wbtravis007 wrote:
Sat Jul 20, 2024 3:23 pm


The point is he wasn’t shot, Bwana Sherlock.
WTF????

Oh, yeah that's right-you postulated a few days ago that he has explosives planted in all his extremities so if real gunfire ever went off at an event they could blow off whichever ear/nose/finger/toe was more believable based on where the shooter was.
Nope. The plan was to inflict a minor but bloody cut on the ear somehow— many different ways to do that — or to use fake blood.
Where does the dead guy and the 2 wounded fit in your scenario? Are they roughly in line with the shooter and Trump?

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#20 Post by Spock » Sat Jul 20, 2024 3:47 pm

Spock wrote:
Sat Jul 20, 2024 3:44 pm
wbtravis007 wrote:
Sat Jul 20, 2024 3:40 pm
Spock wrote:
Sat Jul 20, 2024 3:35 pm


WTF????

Oh, yeah that's right-you postulated a few days ago that he has explosives planted in all his extremities so if real gunfire ever went off at an event they could blow off whichever ear/nose/finger/toe was more believable based on where the shooter was.
Nope. The plan was to inflict a minor but bloody cut on the ear somehow— many different ways to do that — or to use fake blood.
Where does the dead guy and the 2 wounded fit in your scenario? Are they roughly in line with the shooter and Trump?
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#21 Post by wbtravis007 » Sat Jul 20, 2024 5:09 pm

Spock wrote:
Sat Jul 20, 2024 3:47 pm
Spock wrote:
Sat Jul 20, 2024 3:44 pm
wbtravis007 wrote:
Sat Jul 20, 2024 3:40 pm


Nope. The plan was to inflict a minor but bloody cut on the ear somehow— many different ways to do that — or to use fake blood.
Where does the dead guy and the 2 wounded fit in your scenario? Are they roughly in line with the shooter and Trump?
You know what-I don't care-shove your little conspiracy theories up your ass-and GOODBYE-Join SSS and Weyoun on my Foe list as people I refuse to waste any more time on.
Didn’t know there was such a list. Is this a real Foe list or a faux Foe list?

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Re: Conspiracy theory

#22 Post by Beebs52 » Sat Jul 20, 2024 5:25 pm

jarnon wrote:
Sat Jul 20, 2024 2:17 pm
It took my entire ear off. The whole ear. But I went to the doctor, and he said, and this is true, he said, you heal faster than anyone I've ever seen. Nobody is healthier than you. And the next day, my ear was growing back, and the doctor said, nobody regrows ears like that, and its a really remarkable thing, regrowing an ear like that, most people can't do it. And I know that, because its not me saying this, its the doctor, its everybody saying, just, you're the best at regrowing ears.
https://www.threads.net/@whatdoiknow.jr/post/C9fswTdS06

Jarnon, seriously?
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#23 Post by Spock » Sat Jul 20, 2024 6:51 pm

You know, I thought since the FBI rapidly completed its investigation and announced within about 27 minutes that the shooter acted 100% completely alone; I thought that was the way we were going here.

I never dreamed we would be bringing up crackpot Roger Stone theories and absolutely inane arguments about the bullet damage to an ear.

I guess that opens up lots of rabbit holes for people to go down if they want. Fire away.

I will name an area that I would like to know a lot more info on.

Considering that Oswald worked in the depository-thus obviously knew the area.

I am curious about how somebody (the shooter) from 60 miles away on the other side of Pittsburgh became familiar with the rally area.

1)Were there family/friends in the area? Did they vacation up there? etc etc

2) Did he make scouting trips once the rally was announced? His cell phone should be able to place him in the rough area-as with the Idaho student murderer.

3) etc etc

Not one media question (that I have seen) that even touches on the activities of the shooter in the days prior to the shooting. This lack of curiosity is frustrating. If anyone has seen any info on this area-please let me know.

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#24 Post by Weyoun » Sat Jul 20, 2024 8:29 pm

I know actual doctors who were at the scene treating the injured. The injured went to the hospital where I work. This definitely happened.

This is even more stupid than the folks who say that Secret Service was in on it.

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#25 Post by Spock » Sat Jul 20, 2024 9:05 pm

Weyoun wrote:
Sat Jul 20, 2024 8:29 pm
I know actual doctors who were at the scene treating the injured. The injured went to the hospital where I work. This definitely happened.

This is even more stupid than the folks who say that Secret Service was in on it.
I read this for obvious reasons. I figured you were closely involved or knew people who were.

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