Former president jokes that migrants should fight

[kroxquo]

But he actually said this. That’s the thing. This isn’t derangement syndrome or some media fabrication. He actually said this - in fact, he was so impressed with that he repeated it.

I find the doddering confusion of Biden to be concerning, but at least he doesn’t wanna turn our country into some kind of bloodsport.

Right. In what reality is that going to happen? IT WAS A JOKE, DOC. Maybe not a very funny one. Maybe in the same category of what travis does, but a joke. Are you so disassociated from reality you can't see that? The obvious answer is yes.

You are correct. It was a joke. A completely immature and racist joke at the expense of people who are fleeing desperately horrific conditions in their home countries. It was a joke. A joke that was completely inappropriate for someone aspiring to the dignity of the highest office in the land. He has a history of making such jokes - like mocking reporters who are physically disabled. But the types of jokes a person tells can tell a lot about a person's character. Kind of like making jokes about building concentration camps for people who don't share your political views.

[silverscreenselect]

It was a joke. A completely immature and racist joke at the expense of people who are fleeing desperately horrific conditions in their home countries. It was a joke. A joke that was completely inappropriate for someone aspiring to the dignity of the highest office in the land. He has a history of making such jokes - like mocking reporters who are physically disabled. But the types of jokes a person tells can tell a lot about a person's character.

Whenever something like this happens, I think back to John McCain in 2008 at a campaign event when a supporter said she couldn't trust Obama because he was an Arab.

McCain grabbed the microphone from her, cutting her off. “No, ma’am,” he said. “He’s a decent family man [and] citizen that just I just happen to have disagreements with on fundamental issues, and that’s what the campaign’s all about. He’s not [an Arab].”

That was John McCain's finest moment. And it's a moment you're unlikely to see again in the foreseeable future at any Republican campaign event. But John McCain was an American hero who "earned" Trump's ridicule by being captured in a war Trump and his daddy pulled all the strings they could to avoid. The descent of the Reepublcan party from a principled conservative party represented by men like Dwight Eisenhower and John McCain to what we have today is a sad spectacle.

[BackInTex]

It was a joke. A completely immature and racist joke at the expense of people who are fleeing desperately horrific conditions in their home countries. It was a joke. A joke that was completely inappropriate for someone aspiring to the dignity of the highest office in the land. He has a history of making such jokes - like mocking reporters who are physically disabled. But the types of jokes a person tells can tell a lot about a person's character.

Whenever something like this happens, I think back to John McCain in 2008 at a campaign event when a supporter said she couldn't trust Obama because he was an Arab.

McCain grabbed the microphone from her, cutting her off. “No, ma’am,” he said. “He’s a decent family man [and] citizen that just I just happen to have disagreements with on fundamental issues, and that’s what the campaign’s all about. He’s not [an Arab].”

That was John McCain's finest moment. And it's a moment you're unlikely to see again in the foreseeable future at any Republican campaign event. But John McCain was an American hero who "earned" Trump's ridicule by being captured in a war Trump and his daddy pulled all the strings they could to avoid. The descent of the Reepublcan party from a principled conservative party represented by men like Dwight Eisenhower and John McCain to what we have today is a sad spectacle.

And John McCain lost.

[Weyoun]

It was a joke. A completely immature and racist joke at the expense of people who are fleeing desperately horrific conditions in their home countries. It was a joke. A joke that was completely inappropriate for someone aspiring to the dignity of the highest office in the land. He has a history of making such jokes - like mocking reporters who are physically disabled. But the types of jokes a person tells can tell a lot about a person's character.

Whenever something like this happens, I think back to John McCain in 2008 at a campaign event when a supporter said she couldn't trust Obama because he was an Arab.

McCain grabbed the microphone from her, cutting her off. “No, ma’am,” he said. “He’s a decent family man [and] citizen that just I just happen to have disagreements with on fundamental issues, and that’s what the campaign’s all about. He’s not [an Arab].”

That was John McCain's finest moment. And it's a moment you're unlikely to see again in the foreseeable future at any Republican campaign event. But John McCain was an American hero who "earned" Trump's ridicule by being captured in a war Trump and his daddy pulled all the strings they could to avoid. The descent of the Reepublcan party from a principled conservative party represented by men like Dwight Eisenhower and John McCain to what we have today is a sad spectacle.

And John McCain lost.

Trump has never won a majority of the electorate, so….

[BackInTex]

Whenever something like this happens, I think back to John McCain in 2008 at a campaign event when a supporter said she couldn't trust Obama because he was an Arab.



That was John McCain's finest moment. And it's a moment you're unlikely to see again in the foreseeable future at any Republican campaign event. But John McCain was an American hero who "earned" Trump's ridicule by being captured in a war Trump and his daddy pulled all the strings they could to avoid. The descent of the Reepublcan party from a principled conservative party represented by men like Dwight Eisenhower and John McCain to what we have today is a sad spectacle.

And John McCain lost.

Trump has never won a majority of the electorate, so….

and the Oilers got a whopping 28% more goals than the Panthers in the NHL finals. Panthers won the championship, so....

[tlynn78]

But he actually said this. That’s the thing. This isn’t derangement syndrome or some media fabrication. He actually said this - in fact, he was so impressed with that he repeated it.

I find the doddering confusion of Biden to be concerning, but at least he doesn’t wanna turn our country into some kind of bloodsport.

He didn't say anything about Hunger Games, you did. He didn't call them bums, you did. But keep lying to yourself. I guess it's less embarrassing than admitting to yourself how easily youve been manipulated.

But he did say we should have this as event on TV and that it would be wildly entertaining. Metaphorically, very little difference between that and the Hunger Games.

And while it may seem crazy to compare that to a fictional event where people died, based on the direction of this country and people like you, I am increasingly wary, and I feel like would surprise me at this point. So please continue to think that I am somehow sympathetic by using words like “bum fights.” But I think you would actually find that stuff entertaining and morally satisfying. So go to hell.

Actually not a big fan of what my dad used to call "wrassle-fightin'" but it is in fact a 'sport' with a very large fan base, including south of the border. Dumbass. Metaphorically, you are completely lost. I get it - you've allowed yourself to be completely gaslit, and if you don't double-down you'd have to admit, if only to yourself, how easily swayed you've been. Bless your heart.

[Weyoun]

And John McCain lost.

Trump has never won a majority of the electorate, so….

and the Oilers got a whopping 28% more goals than the Panthers in the NHL finals. Panthers won the championship, so....

And that was a sample size of seven games, as opposed to McCain’s one election. It is telling that you think his problem, and keep in mind we’re talking about a war hero who served this country well for decades, was that he was not a big enough asshole, and wasn’t willing to spread lies and make insinuations about Arabs.

[BackInTex]

Trump has never won a majority of the electorate, so….

and the Oilers got a whopping 28% more goals than the Panthers in the NHL finals. Panthers won the championship, so....

And that was a sample size of seven games, as opposed to McCain’s one election. It is telling that you think his problem, and keep in mind we’re talking about a war hero who served this country well for decades, was that he was not a big enough asshole, and wasn’t willing to spread lies and make insinuations about Arabs.

Trump's win, and Obama's wins were more like 51 indipendent elections. They were weighted differently but as with sports tournaments, total score doesn't matter. Or maybe a better analogy, as least using football, is total yards don't matter, just points. At any rate, the fact that any elected President didn't get the majority of the elecotarte is incosequential (and bringing it up is just whinning).

[Weyoun]

He didn't say anything about Hunger Games, you did. He didn't call them bums, you did. But keep lying to yourself. I guess it's less embarrassing than admitting to yourself how easily youve been manipulated.

But he did say we should have this as event on TV and that it would be wildly entertaining. Metaphorically, very little difference between that and the Hunger Games.

And while it may seem crazy to compare that to a fictional event where people died, based on the direction of this country and people like you, I am increasingly wary, and I feel like would surprise me at this point. So please continue to think that I am somehow sympathetic by using words like “bum fights.” But I think you would actually find that stuff entertaining and morally satisfying. So go to hell.

Actually not a big fan of what my dad used to call "wrassle-fightin'" but it is in fact a 'sport' with a very large fan base, including south of the border. Dumbass. Metaphorically, you are completely lost. I get it - you've allowed yourself to be completely gaslit, and if you don't double-down you'd have to admit, if only to yourself, how easily swayed you've been. Bless your heart.

Oh, how did I not know? He was trying just trying to win the vote of those from south of the border, who won’t even vote in this election. Just brilliant.

[Weyoun]

and the Oilers got a whopping 28% more goals than the Panthers in the NHL finals. Panthers won the championship, so....

And that was a sample size of seven games, as opposed to McCain’s one election. It is telling that you think his problem, and keep in mind we’re talking about a war hero who served this country well for decades, was that he was not a big enough asshole, and wasn’t willing to spread lies and make insinuations about Arabs.

Trump's win, and Obama's wins were more like 51 indipendent elections. They were weighted differently but as with sports tournaments, total score doesn't matter. Or maybe a better analogy, as least using football, is total yards don't matter, just points. At any rate, the fact that any elected President didn't get the majority of the elecotarte is incosequential (and bringing it up is just whinning).

How about we take a step back. You have seemingly concluded that the reason McCain lost was that he was the reasonable human being, just like the Edmonton Oilers lost because they scored too many goals. Can you show some kind of evidence that McCain’s problem was that he didn’t want Obama tortured alive, and id he just craved more murdering and dehumanization, he would’ve won? I feel like we’ve just gone down this rabbit hole of pointless mathematical comparisons for the wrong reasons

[flockofseagulls104]

I assume, doc, that you are subscriber to the Charlottesville lie, just like our esteemed president. Until you, like snopes reluctantly did, admit that it was one of the first of the innumerable media lies (like this one) about what trump said and what he meant, do like I said at the beginning: give it a rest, man. You are not convincing anyone of anything, except that you are easily manipulated and vocal about your ignorance.

I seem to remember someone, maybe trollboy, suggesting at some time in the past that you were a conservative. LMAO. You are more in the tank than the rest of the leftists on this bored.

[tlynn78]

I assume, doc, that you are subscriber to the Charlottesville lie, just like our esteemed president. Until you, like snopes reluctantly did, admit that it was one of the first of the innumerable media lies (like this one) about what trump said and what he meant, do like I said at the beginning: give it a rest, man. You are not convincing anyone of anything, except that you are easily manipulated and vocal about your ignorance.

I seem to remember someone, maybe trollboy, suggesting at some time in the past that you were a conservative. LMAO. You are more in the tank than the rest of the leftists on this bored.

I mean, per CNN:
“I said, ‘Dana, I have an idea: Why don’t you set up a migrant league of fighters and have your regular league of fighters. And then you have the champion of your league — these are the greatest fighters in the world — fight the champion of the migrants. I think the migrants’ guy might win, that’s how tough they are,”

What, exactly, is 'racist' about that? He doesn't call them bums. He doesn't even call them illegals. Ever heard of Lucha Libra? It's a pretty big deal in Mexico. Trump having dabbled in promoting a time or two, I have no doubt this idea has occurred to him. I suspect the idea would be met with enthusiasm among the migrants.

[silverscreenselect]

Until you, like snopes reluctantly did, admit that it was one of the first of the innumerable media lies (like this one) about what trump said and what he meant

What Snopes said:

For the record, virtually every source that covered the Unite the Right debacle concluded that it was conceived of, led by and attended by white supremacists, and that therefore Trump's characterization was wrong.

The Doc and I were right, as Snopes acknowledges. You and Trump were, are, and will always be wrong.

[tlynn78]

Until you, like snopes reluctantly did, admit that it was one of the first of the innumerable media lies (like this one) about what trump said and what he meant

What Snopes said:

For the record, virtually every source that covered the Unite the Right debacle concluded that it was conceived of, led by and attended by white supremacists, and that therefore Trump's characterization was wrong.

The Doc and I were right, as Snopes acknowledges. You and Trump were, are, and will always be wrong.

Well, that's certainly rational. You've won me over.

[flockofseagulls104]

Until you, like snopes reluctantly did, admit that it was one of the first of the innumerable media lies (like this one) about what trump said and what he meant

What Snopes said:

For the record, virtually every Main Stream Media Conglomerate source that covered the Unite the Right debacle except the ones that reported it fairly concluded that it was conceived of, led by and attended by white supremacists, and that therefore Trump's characterization was wrong.

The Doc and I were right, as Snopes acknowledges. You and Trump were, are, and will always be wrong.

Fixed it for you.

I'm not talking about the neo-Nazis and the white nationalists, because they should be condemned totally. But you had many people in that group other than neo-Nazis and white nationalists, okay?

That is from the full quote, which, somehow, you never take into account or cite. You are fully in the tank.

[silverscreenselect]

But you had many people in that group other than neo-Nazis and white nationalists, okay?

That is from the full quote, which, somehow, you never take into account or cite. You are fully in the tank.

That's the part you don't understand. There were no other people in that group besides the neo-Nazis and white nationalists. There were no "very fine people" on both sides.

You don't seem to be able to comprehend this basic fact.

[BackInTex]

But you had many people in that group other than neo-Nazis and white nationalists, okay?

That is from the full quote, which, somehow, you never take into account or cite. You are fully in the tank.

That's the part you don't understand. There were no other people in that group besides the neo-Nazis and white nationalists. There were no "very fine people" on both sides.

You don't seem to be able to comprehend this basic fact.

You really believe that? That there was no one, not one person there, who didn't want the statue removed solely for historical purposes? Or do you believe that anyone who didn't want the statute removed is either a neo-Nazi or white nationalist, or both?

[flockofseagulls104]

But you had many people in that group other than neo-Nazis and white nationalists, okay?

That is from the full quote, which, somehow, you never take into account or cite. You are fully in the tank.

That's the part you don't understand. There were no other people in that group besides the neo-Nazis and white nationalists. There were no "very fine people" on both sides.

You don't seem to be able to comprehend this basic fact.

I understand it alright. I know if this was in Atlanta, I might have been there. But you believe me to be a 'not fine' person. And I am 100% certain there were good, law-abiding people in Charlottesville that did not support the idea of taking down that statue. I know you weren't there, and you are taking the word of many equally TDS-suffering people, when you know it was impossible to ascertain what you are claiming.

At the very worst, trump was guilty of not knowing the mindset of everyone there. He doesn't have your skills in knowing everyone's motivations, or the skills in that area of the MSM Conglomerate. But he did categorically state who he condemned. You deliberately ignore that, just like the J6 Starchamber omitted Trump telling the crowd to remain peaceful and later to go home.

BTW, what was the radius of the area in Charlottesville that you claim there was not one fine person in? Can you define that for me? Can you give me a map of everyone in that defined area and designate for me who was 'fine' and who was 'not fine'?

Charlottesville is a closed subject as far as I'm concerned. You can bring it back up, but until you can come up with answers for my previous paragraph, you are pissing in the wind.

[tlynn78]

But he actually said this. That’s the thing. This isn’t derangement syndrome or some media fabrication. He actually said this - in fact, he was so impressed with that he repeated it.

I find the doddering confusion of Biden to be concerning, but at least he doesn’t wanna turn our country into some kind of bloodsport.

Right. In what reality is that going to happen? IT WAS A JOKE, DOC. Maybe not a very funny one. Maybe in the same category of what travis does, but a joke. Are you so disassociated from reality you can't see that? The obvious answer is yes.

You are correct. It was a joke. A completely immature and racist joke at the expense of people who are fleeing desperately horrific conditions in their home countries. It was a joke. A joke that was completely inappropriate for someone aspiring to the dignity of the highest office in the land. He has a history of making such jokes - like mocking reporters who are physically disabled. But the types of jokes a person tells can tell a lot about a person's character. Kind of like making jokes about building concentration camps for people who don't share your political views.

Or claiming most of those who won't vote for Biden are hiding out in the hills practicing and plotting the overthrow of the government? That's just being responsible, right?
Yeah, the mere thought that all those peaceful, poor, well, basically innocent children crossing our border in droves actually being interested in wrestling (not to mention, oh, say, raping and killing innocent Americans) is simply inhuman. Still waiting to hear how it was 'racist.' He didn't call them thugs, bums or even illegals. Or deplorable.

[Beebs52]

In the Spring area in our basic vicinity a 12 yr old was killed by two "undocumented" sorts.
There are also many folks from the mideast, far east coming across the suthren border. Do they, too, deserve asylum?

[tlynn78]

In the Spring area in our basic vicinity a 12 yr old was killed by two "undocumented" sorts.
There are also many folks from the mideast, far east coming across the suthren border. Do they, too, deserve asylum?

I'm sure they were just upset over Trump's suggestion they might like to wrestle professionally.

[Beebs52]

Why, yes. After they trail a 12 year old. Gotta get yer energy up.

[BackInTex]

He didn't call them thugs, bums or even illegals. Or deplorable.

Yes he did. Oh wait, you're talking about Trump. I was thinking you were talking about Doc. My misktake.

[silverscreenselect]

And I am 100% certain there were good, law-abiding people in Charlottesville that did not support the idea of taking down that statue. I know you weren't there, and you are taking the word of many equally TDS-suffering people, when you know it was impossible to ascertain what you are claiming.

So you believe Snopes only when it agrees with you and disbelieve the complete dearth of evidence about any actual "very fine people" being there. And there were law-abiding people in Charlottesville that did not support the idea of taking down that statue. They stayed away from that demonstration because they knew what was going to happen. The people taking part in the demonstration were the neo-Nazis and white supremacists shown in many, many pictures. Funny how there's not a single picture or tweet or Facebook post showing genuine "really fine people" at the demonstration.

Got it.

[Beebs52]

What's your point, again?