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#251 Post by silverscreenselect » Thu May 02, 2024 10:57 am

flockofseagulls104 wrote:
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Based on the reaction of people like trollboy to MTG's opinion, that alone shows she is making a valid point.
The claim that "the Jews" were responsible for the crucifixion has been used by bigots and anti-semites for centuries to justify all sorts of persecution against Jews. Members of Congress should not be repeating this trope. You shouldn't either, but you've repeatedly demonstrated that you have no common sense or understanding of history other than what Donald Trump tells you.
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#252 Post by BackInTex » Thu May 02, 2024 12:19 pm

silverscreenselect wrote:
Thu May 02, 2024 10:57 am
flockofseagulls104 wrote:
Thu May 02, 2024 9:06 am
Based on the reaction of people like trollboy to MTG's opinion, that alone shows she is making a valid point.
The claim that "the Jews" were responsible for the crucifixion has been used by bigots and anti-semites for centuries to justify all sorts of persecution against Jews. Members of Congress should not be repeating this trope. You shouldn't either, but you've repeatedly demonstrated that you have no common sense or understanding of history other than what Donald Trump tells you.
Well, they kind of were. But it was God's plan and will, and Jesus himself was a Jew. And he had to die, so if anything, Christians should be thanking the Jews. But neither persecuting or thanking them for Jesus' death is remotely proper. It happened, just as planned.
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#253 Post by flockofseagulls104 » Thu May 02, 2024 4:01 pm

silverscreenselect wrote:
Thu May 02, 2024 10:57 am
flockofseagulls104 wrote:
Thu May 02, 2024 9:06 am
Based on the reaction of people like trollboy to MTG's opinion, that alone shows she is making a valid point.
The claim that "the Jews" were responsible for the crucifixion has been used by bigots and anti-semites for centuries to justify all sorts of persecution against Jews. Members of Congress should not be repeating this trope. You shouldn't either, but you've repeatedly demonstrated that you have no common sense or understanding of history other than what Donald Trump tells you.
I doubt there are many Christians involved in the current pro-Hamas, anti-Israel, truly anti-Semetic protests going on as we speak. It is primarily leftists like yourself. And most of them are useful idiots who don't even know any of the issues.
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#254 Post by Weyoun » Thu May 02, 2024 5:41 pm

flockofseagulls104 wrote:
Thu May 02, 2024 4:01 pm
silverscreenselect wrote:
Thu May 02, 2024 10:57 am
flockofseagulls104 wrote:
Thu May 02, 2024 9:06 am
Based on the reaction of people like trollboy to MTG's opinion, that alone shows she is making a valid point.
The claim that "the Jews" were responsible for the crucifixion has been used by bigots and anti-semites for centuries to justify all sorts of persecution against Jews. Members of Congress should not be repeating this trope. You shouldn't either, but you've repeatedly demonstrated that you have no common sense or understanding of history other than what Donald Trump tells you.
I doubt there are many Christians involved in the current pro-Hamas, anti-Israel, truly anti-Semetic protests going on as we speak. It is primarily leftists like yourself. And most of them are useful idiots who don't even know any of the issues.
FWIW American evangelicals are pro-Israel to the point it gives them a blindspot.

While many evangelicals - because they are conspiracy minded fools - like MTG, they would probably differ with MTG on the Space Lasers.

MTG, who by all accounts is now just a whore with laundered money, isn’t overtly religious, but she is conspiratorialist, so her being anti Semitic is not surprising

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#255 Post by Beebs52 » Thu May 02, 2024 5:43 pm

How do you define evangelicals?
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#256 Post by flockofseagulls104 » Thu May 02, 2024 8:17 pm

Weyoun wrote:
Thu May 02, 2024 5:41 pm
flockofseagulls104 wrote:
Thu May 02, 2024 4:01 pm
silverscreenselect wrote:
Thu May 02, 2024 10:57 am


The claim that "the Jews" were responsible for the crucifixion has been used by bigots and anti-semites for centuries to justify all sorts of persecution against Jews. Members of Congress should not be repeating this trope. You shouldn't either, but you've repeatedly demonstrated that you have no common sense or understanding of history other than what Donald Trump tells you.
I doubt there are many Christians involved in the current pro-Hamas, anti-Israel, truly anti-Semetic protests going on as we speak. It is primarily leftists like yourself. And most of them are useful idiots who don't even know any of the issues.
FWIW American evangelicals are pro-Israel to the point it gives them a blindspot.

While many evangelicals - because they are conspiracy minded fools - like MTG, they would probably differ with MTG on the Space Lasers.

MTG, who by all accounts is now just a whore with laundered money, isn’t overtly religious, but she is conspiratorialist, so her being anti Semitic is not surprising
"Who by all accounts"? I don't think that is anywhere near a legitimate statement. Come to look at it, 90% of your statements come out of the depths of left field. Only in your bubble of delusion do they hold any water.
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#257 Post by flockofseagulls104 » Thu May 02, 2024 8:59 pm

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#258 Post by silverscreenselect » Fri May 03, 2024 1:34 am

Weyoun wrote:
Thu May 02, 2024 5:41 pm
FWIW American evangelicals are pro-Israel to the point it gives them a blindspot.
Many evangelicals are pro-Israel because they believe a Jewish state of Israel is a sign of the second coming. Of course, many of those same evangelicals ignore many of the actual teachings of Jesus during his first coming.
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#259 Post by jarnon » Sat May 04, 2024 4:42 pm

In 2022, Boris Johnson introduced the Elections Act requiring photo ID. The law took full effect in local elections last Thursday. Johnson was turned away because he forgot his ID, and returned later to vote.
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#260 Post by Beebs52 » Sat May 04, 2024 5:53 pm

I think some folks are conflating Christian evangelicals with Christian nationalists. Sigh.
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#261 Post by flockofseagulls104 » Sat May 04, 2024 5:53 pm

silverscreenselect wrote:
Fri May 03, 2024 1:34 am
Weyoun wrote:
Thu May 02, 2024 5:41 pm
FWIW American evangelicals are pro-Israel to the point it gives them a blindspot.
Many evangelicals are pro-Israel because they believe a Jewish state of Israel is a sign of the second coming. Of course, many of those same evangelicals ignore many of the actual teachings of Jesus during his first coming.
So, I guess you are the arbiter of the teachings of Jesus now, too?
Maybe you are the second coming?
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#262 Post by flockofseagulls104 » Sat May 04, 2024 5:57 pm

I thought Rutgers University was lost to wokeness beyond any redemption. I stand corrected. There is still a bit of sanity in New Brunswick, NJ.
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#263 Post by jarnon » Sat May 04, 2024 6:12 pm

flockofseagulls104 wrote:
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I thought Rutgers University was lost to wokeness beyond any redemption. I stand corrected. There is still a bit of sanity in New Brunswick, NJ.
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#264 Post by flockofseagulls104 » Sun May 12, 2024 10:20 am

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#265 Post by jarnon » Sun May 12, 2024 11:08 am

Though New Jersey is called a “blue state,” some areas are strongly Republican, like this marina:

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#266 Post by flockofseagulls104 » Sun May 12, 2024 3:46 pm

jarnon wrote:
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Though New Jersey is called a “blue state,” some areas are strongly Republican, like this marina:

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Just another state controlled by the urban democrat machine.
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#267 Post by jarnon » Thu May 23, 2024 2:20 am

Fifty miles away, a famous New Jersey native and Princeton grad flew his own Trump flag.

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#268 Post by BackInTex » Thu May 23, 2024 8:04 am

jarnon wrote:
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Though New Jersey is called a “blue state,” some areas are strongly Republican, like this marina:
That is the same in most blue states. The areas of the states that do most of the necessary economic production (food, energy, etc.) are typically conservative (Republican) but the hubs of non-producers (big inner cities) and producers of "life's luxuries" (entertainment, software, etc.) tend to lean left (Democrat).
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#269 Post by flockofseagulls104 » Thu May 23, 2024 3:48 pm

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#270 Post by jarnon » Thu May 23, 2024 4:25 pm

I watched this video. Ted Cruz accuses a judicial nominee, Sarah Netburn, of having a political agenda when she transferred a transgender convict to a women's prison. He loudly proclaims that the convict had committed rape twice and asks if the other prisoners have the right not to be incarcerated with a 6'2" tall rapist.

As usual, the right-wing media omit most of the facts. The rapes were over 20 years ago. The offender, named Shelby, is now 60 years old and takes female hormones. Shelby has more to fear from the other prisoners, mostly violent criminals themselves, than they have.
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#271 Post by flockofseagulls104 » Thu May 23, 2024 4:46 pm

jarnon wrote:
Thu May 23, 2024 4:25 pm
I watched this video. Ted Cruz accuses a judicial nominee, Sarah Netburn, of having a political agenda when she transferred a transgender convict to a women's prison. He loudly proclaims that the convict had committed rape twice and asks if the other prisoners have the right not to be incarcerated with a 6'2" tall rapist.

As usual, the right-wing media omit most of the facts. The rapes were over 20 years ago. The offender, named Shelby, is now 60 years old and takes female hormones. Shelby has more to fear from the other prisoners, mostly violent criminals themselves, than they have.
Really, jarnon? You are going to go with that?
The guy has male genitalia. The guy has a history of sexual assaults. Put him in a woman's prison? Because he asked to be put there? Are you as insane as this 'judge'?
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#272 Post by wbtravis007 » Thu May 23, 2024 5:35 pm

I don’t click on these links, but would have bet big money that whatever it is about has nothing to do with any of the 60-ish judges that would be relevant here.

Jarnon’s comment confirmed that.

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#273 Post by flockofseagulls104 » Thu May 23, 2024 6:10 pm

jarnon wrote:
Thu May 23, 2024 4:25 pm
I watched this video. Ted Cruz accuses a judicial nominee, Sarah Netburn, of having a political agenda when she transferred a transgender convict to a women's prison. He loudly proclaims that the convict had committed rape twice and asks if the other prisoners have the right not to be incarcerated with a 6'2" tall rapist.

As usual, the right-wing media omit most of the facts. The rapes were over 20 years ago. The offender, named Shelby, is now 60 years old and takes female hormones. Shelby has more to fear from the other prisoners, mostly violent criminals themselves, than they have.
What facts can possibly have been omitted to make this a rational thing to do?
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#274 Post by silverscreenselect » Thu May 23, 2024 6:30 pm

flockofseagulls104 wrote:
Thu May 23, 2024 6:10 pm
What facts can possibly have been omitted to make this a rational thing to do?
The woman has repeatedly requested gender-affirming surgery (cutting off the male sex organs) and her hormone levels are completely female now. When told she could not get the surgery, she even threatened to cut off her cojones herself. Three wardens and a district judge supported Judge Netburn's opinion. From Judge Netburn's testimony today:
Judge Sarah Netburn wrote:The facts of the case were that the petitioner had last engaged in a contact offense 30 years ago, the petitioner had not engaged in any contact offense. In addition, the medical evidence made clear that for the last five years the petitioner was sober and hormonally entirely a female... The petitioner had engaged in no violence, no physical violence, no sexual violence whatsoever while in custody. All three wardens who supervised the petitioner requested that she be transferred to a women’s facility because of her serious medical needs.

In addition, the Bureau of Prisons’ longtime medical provider testified at a two-day hearing in my courtroom, and recommended the petitioner be transferred because of her serious needs. The Transgender Executive Council, which is the body that makes decisions on behalf of transgender transfer requests, never said that the petitioner could not be transferred and never ever said she couldn’t be transferred because of any risk of violence. The petitioner had reached full female hormone levels before being incarcerated. At the time, the district judge in Indiana requested that she be placed in a women’s facility. Her hormones were entirely female at that point.
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#275 Post by tlynn78 » Thu May 23, 2024 7:19 pm

silverscreenselect wrote:
Thu May 23, 2024 6:30 pm
flockofseagulls104 wrote:
Thu May 23, 2024 6:10 pm
What facts can possibly have been omitted to make this a rational thing to do?
The woman has repeatedly requested gender-affirming surgery (cutting off the male sex organs) and her hormone levels are completely female now. When told she could not get the surgery, she even threatened to cut off her cojones herself. Three wardens and a district judge supported Judge Netburn's opinion. From Judge Netburn's testimony today:
Judge Sarah Netburn wrote:The facts of the case were that the petitioner had last engaged in a contact offense 30 years ago, the petitioner had not engaged in any contact offense. In addition, the medical evidence made clear that for the last five years the petitioner was sober and hormonally entirely a female... The petitioner had engaged in no violence, no physical violence, no sexual violence whatsoever while in custody. All three wardens who supervised the petitioner requested that she be transferred to a women’s facility because of her serious medical needs.

In addition, the Bureau of Prisons’ longtime medical provider testified at a two-day hearing in my courtroom, and recommended the petitioner be transferred because of her serious needs. The Transgender Executive Council, which is the body that makes decisions on behalf of transgender transfer requests, never said that the petitioner could not be transferred and never ever said she couldn’t be transferred because of any risk of violence. The petitioner had reached full female hormone levels before being incarcerated. At the time, the district judge in Indiana requested that she be placed in a women’s facility. Her hormones were entirely female at that point.
Oh ffs. You people are straight up lunatics. How about you house "her" with your daughters? Granddaughters? I mean, since "she's" no danger, right?
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