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#51 Post by PlacentiaSoccerMom » Fri May 09, 2008 6:39 pm

mrkelley23 wrote:
PlacentiaSoccerMom wrote:I got an email from Hillary's campain today.

Please welcome back to Orange County
America's Next President
Senator Hillary Clinton


The date is May 15th. Tickets range in price from $250 to $2,300.
Is there such a thing as a Freudian misspelling?
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#52 Post by ulysses5019 » Fri May 09, 2008 6:56 pm

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MarleysGh0st wrote:
PlacentiaSoccerMom wrote:I got an email from Hillary's campain today.

Please welcome back to Orange County
America's Next President
Senator Hillary Clinton


The date is May 15th. Tickets range in price from $250 to $2,300.
How many tickets are you buying? Front row or the cheap seats? :)
Who does she think she is, Hannah Montana?

You mean Hillary posed for Vanity Fair? How soon did the magazine go out of business?
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#53 Post by wbtravis007 » Sat May 10, 2008 1:08 pm

PlacentiaSoccerMom wrote:I got an email from Hillary's campain today.

Please welcome back to Orange County
America's Next President
Senator Hillary Clinton


The date is May 15th. Tickets range in price from $250 to $2,300.
I guess she's not worried about the remaining primaries, and is looking ahead to try to make sure that she gets California in the general.

I guess it's also possible that she's trying to pay herself back.

Anyway, I think it's probably one of the two.

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#54 Post by Jeemie » Sat May 10, 2008 6:49 pm

NellyLunatic1980 wrote:You know what footage I would pay cash money to see on the teevee machine? John McSame together with everybody's favorite treasonous ex-Marine, Ollie North. North would trump Wright, Ayers, and Rezko combined.
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#55 Post by Jeemie » Sun May 11, 2008 9:24 am

silverscreenselect wrote:...(excluding MI and FL which don't count and apparently aren't needed in the general election)...
Hey- maybe if Hillary had spoken up in December, instead of agreeing to the DNC's stupid "solution" regarding these states back then, it wouldn't be such a pickle for the Dems.

So Hillary is just as culpable...since she was ready to turn her back on Florida and Michigan (until, of course, it became apparent that she NEEDED them).
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#56 Post by ToLiveIsToFly » Wed May 14, 2008 3:41 pm

Hardly anything close to an authoritative source, and speculation anyway, but dailykos thinks Edwards will endorse Obama tonight.

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/ ... 948/515690

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#57 Post by mrkelley23 » Wed May 14, 2008 3:43 pm

I like hfjai's idea -- make Wes Clark the VP candidate. Let Hillary have JPS's seat on the bench. She's more suited to that role, anyway, IMHO.
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#58 Post by NellyLunatic1980 » Thu May 15, 2008 3:55 am

mrkelley23 wrote:I like hfjai's idea -- make Wes Clark the VP candidate. Let Hillary have JPS's seat on the bench. She's more suited to that role, anyway, IMHO.
Or maybe Hillary can replace Harry Reid as Senate Majority Leader. That should have Republican senators running around wetting their pants three times a day--Black president, female Speaker of the House, and the WWOTW Hillary as Senate Leader.

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#59 Post by TheCalvinator24 » Thu May 15, 2008 6:47 am

NellyLunatic1980 wrote:
mrkelley23 wrote:I like hfjai's idea -- make Wes Clark the VP candidate. Let Hillary have JPS's seat on the bench. She's more suited to that role, anyway, IMHO.
Or maybe Hillary can replace Harry Reid as Senate Majority Leader. That should have Republican senators running around wetting their pants three times a day--Black president, female Speaker of the House, and the WWOTW Hillary as Senate Leader.
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#60 Post by starfish1113 » Thu May 15, 2008 6:55 am

TheCalvinator24 wrote:
NellyLunatic1980 wrote:
mrkelley23 wrote:I like hfjai's idea -- make Wes Clark the VP candidate. Let Hillary have JPS's seat on the bench. She's more suited to that role, anyway, IMHO.
Or maybe Hillary can replace Harry Reid as Senate Majority Leader. That should have Republican senators running around wetting their pants three times a day--Black president, female Speaker of the House, and the WWOTW Hillary as Senate Leader.
The vast majority of Republicans couldn't care less about the race of the President or the sex of the Speaker of the House.
Rec to Cal.

Nelly's implication that if you don't support Obama or Clinton or Pelosi you must be racist or sexist (rather than merely having policy differences) is one that I see all too often these days.

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#61 Post by Bob78164 » Thu May 15, 2008 10:07 am

NellyLunatic1980 wrote:
mrkelley23 wrote:I like hfjai's idea -- make Wes Clark the VP candidate. Let Hillary have JPS's seat on the bench. She's more suited to that role, anyway, IMHO.
Or maybe Hillary can replace Harry Reid as Senate Majority Leader. That should have Republican senators running around wetting their pants three times a day--Black president, female Speaker of the House, and the WWOTW Hillary as Senate Leader.
Harry Reid has already nixed that idea. I'm pretty sure he's got the votes to make his views stick. --Bob
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#62 Post by Tocqueville3 » Thu May 15, 2008 11:06 am

starfish1113 wrote:
TheCalvinator24 wrote:
NellyLunatic1980 wrote: Or maybe Hillary can replace Harry Reid as Senate Majority Leader. That should have Republican senators running around wetting their pants three times a day--Black president, female Speaker of the House, and the WWOTW Hillary as Senate Leader.
The vast majority of Republicans couldn't care less about the race of the President or the sex of the Speaker of the House.
Rec to Cal.

Nelly's implication that if you don't support Obama or Clinton or Pelosi you must be racist or sexist (rather than merely having policy differences) is one that I see all too often these days.
Absolutely. Most Republicans don't give a flip about race or sex. We care about how conservative you are. It's as simple as that. My in-laws are whiter than white and two of the most conservative people I know. They also voted for Bobby Jindal.

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#63 Post by starfish1113 » Thu May 15, 2008 11:23 am

Speaking of sexist comments:

(CNN) – Barack Obama has personally apologized to a Michigan television reporter for referring to her as "sweetie" as she tried to ask a question.

The comment came earlier Wednesday when WXYZ reporter Peggy Agar asked Obama at a campaign stop, “How are you going to help the American auto workers?”

Obama told Agar to "hold on, sweetie," and said he would address that issue with her later. Agar said she never got an answer to her question.

According to WXYZ, Obama personally left a voice message for Agar Wednesday afternoon, apologizing for both not answering the question and for calling her "sweetie."

"That's a bad habit of mine," Obama said in the message. "I do it sometimes with all kinds of people. I mean no disrespect and so I am duly chastened on that front.

"Feel free to call me back. I expect that my press team will be happy to try to make it up to you whenever we are in Detroit next," he added.

Obama also took some heat in Pennsylvania last month for referring to a factory worker as "sweetie."


Could you imagine the outcry if McCain said this rather than Obama?

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#64 Post by silverscreenselect » Thu May 15, 2008 11:41 am

starfish1113 wrote: Could you imagine the outcry if McCain said this rather than Obama?
Or if McCain or Hillary had referred a black as "boy." Of course, when Bill Clinton referred to Obama as that kid, making a reference to his lack of experience, that was part of the coded Clinton racial talk, just like the "fairy tale" comments and the praising of LBJ for getting the Civil Rights Act passed.

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#65 Post by takinover » Thu May 15, 2008 7:45 pm

Tocqueville3 wrote:
Absolutely. Most Republicans don't give a flip about race or sex. We care about how conservative you are. It's as simple as that.
Alan Keyes can only hope.

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#66 Post by hf_jai » Fri May 16, 2008 7:25 am

silverscreenselect wrote:
starfish1113 wrote: Could you imagine the outcry if McCain said this rather than Obama?
Or if McCain or Hillary had referred a black as "boy." Of course, when Bill Clinton referred to Obama as that kid, making a reference to his lack of experience, that was part of the coded Clinton racial talk, just like the "fairy tale" comments and the praising of LBJ for getting the Civil Rights Act passed.
I had a friend from Iowa (a young guy, late 20s, father of two little girls, white, liberal but not overly left-wing, good heart, politically active), whom I met in the Clark 04 campaign. This guy probably wouldn't know real racism if it hit him in the face, but he tried to tell me (who grew up in GA in the 50s and 60s) that Bill Clinton's "kid" was the same as calling him "boy." This was back before the SC primary, and even then he was saying, I will not vote for Hillary if she wins the nomination because she is running a racist campaign. He was getting this nonsense directly from the Obama people. That's when I knew the game that Obama and Axelrod were going to play.

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#67 Post by 5LD » Fri May 16, 2008 9:41 am

I have called many people I do not know, both male and female, "honey". It is my word to call the kids/husband etc...and it has become such a natural reaction for me it slips out in the check out line when the checker asks me a question or at the soccer game when the assistant coach makes a comment and I ask "What did you say, honey?"

Embarrasing, yes. Do I mean anything by it? No.

Edited to add that my son does the same thing....

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#68 Post by PlacentiaSoccerMom » Fri May 16, 2008 12:16 pm

There was a principal at the girls' school who called everyone "honey" I think that it was because she didn't learn their names.

There are some obnoxious boys in Emma's class and when I deal with them in the library, I call them "sweetie." It confuses them and they usually calm down.

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