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And another one bites the dust

#1 Post by Bob Juch » Sat Feb 11, 2023 5:16 pm

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WASHINGTON — An American fighter jet, acting on the orders of Prime Minister Justin Trudeau of Canada, shot down another unidentified flying object on Saturday, Canadian and American officials said, in the latest twist of the ongoing drama playing out over the skies of North America.

“I ordered the take down of an unidentified object that violated Canadian airspace,” Mr. Trudeau said in a statement he posted on Twitter. He said an American F-22 with the North American Aerospace Defense Command, which is operated jointly by the United States and Canada, “shot down the object over the Yukon.”

As with the object that President Biden ordered shot down on Friday, officials said they had yet to determine just what was struck with a missile over the Yukon Territory.

Mr. Trudeau said he had spoken with Mr. Biden Saturday afternoon. “Canadian Forces will now recover and analyze the wreckage of the object,” he said in his Twitter post, adding, “Thank you to NORAD for keeping the watch over North America.”

In a statement, NORAD said that it had “positively identified a high-altitude airborne object over Northern Canada” and declined to discuss specifics.

Meanwhile, military troops with U.S. Northern Command were working with Alaska National Guard units, the F.B.I. and local law enforcement in wind, snow and ice to recover the still unidentified flying object that Mr. Biden ordered shot down on Friday, Defense Department officials said Saturday.

With the recovery activities taking place on sea ice, in freezing temperatures and in limited daylight near Deadhorse, Alaska, the service members are being forced to move slowly, adjusting their pace to maintain safety, the officials said.

“We have no further details at this time about the object, including its capabilities, purpose and origin,” the Pentagon said in a statement.

The disclosure on Friday that for the second time in several days, an American F-22 fighter jet had shot down an object in the sky with a Sidewinder missile capped another week of high-altitude tensions between Washington and Beijing, which were stoked by the discovery in late January of a Chinese spy balloon in American skies that was brought down on Feb. 4.

At around 9 p.m. Alaska time on Thursday, American radar picked up an unidentified object entering American airspace. U.S. Northern Command sent an AWACS surveillance aircraft, accompanied by an aerial refueling plane, to track it. Officials said on Friday that they could not tell if the object, which they described as about the size of a tiny car, was a balloon, but it was traveling at an altitude that made it a potential threat to civilian aircraft.

President Biden ordered the object downed “out of an abundance of caution,” said John F. Kirby, a spokesman for the National Security Council, in a press briefing on Friday.

A U.S. official said there were “no affirmative indications of military threat” to people on the ground from the object, which was shot down over the Arctic Ocean near Canada.

Pentagon officials have said that the spy balloon shot down a week ago posed no military threat. Based on that assessment, and out of concern for civilians on the ground who might be harmed by the debris, they counseled against shooting it down over land after it entered American airspace on Jan. 31 over Idaho. The balloon was allowed to make its way to the Atlantic Ocean, where it was brought down off South Carolina. That gave the U.S. military time to study it, including having U-2 spy planes take high-resolution images of the equipment, the officials said.

Northern Command was continuing to carry out recovery of debris from the surveillance balloon on Saturday, the Pentagon statement said.

Mr. Biden, who came under criticism from Republicans for exercising restraint with the balloon episode earlier this month, took more forceful action on Friday with the second flying object. Pentagon officials noted that since it was over water, they were able to easily avoid the dilemma posed by the spy balloon drifting across populated areas.
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#2 Post by silverscreenselect » Sat Feb 11, 2023 6:39 pm

CNN just released some exclusive footage of the incident:

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#3 Post by tlynn78 » Sat Feb 11, 2023 8:19 pm

Great - and instead of Bill Paxton we've got Barney Fife.
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#4 Post by BackInTex » Sat Feb 11, 2023 11:13 pm

It’s a nice admission by the Biden Admin that they made a mistake on the first one.

I appreciate that as a concerned citizen.
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#5 Post by silverscreenselect » Sat Feb 11, 2023 11:29 pm

BackInTex wrote:
Sat Feb 11, 2023 11:13 pm
It’s a nice admission by the Biden Admin that they made a mistake on the first one.

I appreciate that as a concerned citizen.
The scenarios were different. And the object today was shot down in Canada by the order of Prime Minister Trudeau.
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#6 Post by silverscreenselect » Sun Feb 12, 2023 3:15 pm

We're now up to four UFOs shot down. This one was over Lake Huron in Michigan. Unlike the last two, which came in from the Arctic over Alaska or northern Canada, this one would have had to have traveled hundreds of miles over U.S. or Canadian airspace to reach Lake Huron. Apparently, some members of Congress were notified that the object was under surveillance before it was shot down.
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#7 Post by Beebs52 » Sun Feb 12, 2023 4:00 pm

Things are weird.
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#8 Post by silverscreenselect » Mon Feb 13, 2023 2:01 pm

More exclusive footage just released.

Another spy balloon came very close to the Super Bowl. This occurred during a commercial break so it's been kept quiet until now.

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#9 Post by Bob Juch » Mon Feb 13, 2023 8:27 pm

I was visiting L.A. when they filmed this.
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#10 Post by silverscreenselect » Mon Feb 13, 2023 11:00 pm

Bob Juch wrote:
Mon Feb 13, 2023 8:27 pm
I was visiting L.A. when they filmed this.
The location footage in Black Sunday was in Miami. There's a chase scene near where my grandmother lived in some older hotels at or near the beach that are now the ritzy South Beach area.

The game was set at the Orange Bowl, and there's a scene where Joe Robbie, owner of the Dolphins at the time, tells the cops that they can't cancel the Super Bowl just because of a credible bomb threat. "That's like cancelling Christmas."

The Thomas Harris (author of Silence of the Lambs) novel is set in New Orleans because the Superdome was under construction at the time. Football games were being played at the open-air Sugar Bowl next door. The Israeli agents use a hook from a crane at the Superdome construction site to hook the blimp and pull it out of the way. When it came time to make the movie, the next Super Bowl in 1976 was being played in Miami, so they changed the location. They shot some scenes during the actual Super Bowl with the actors from the film. The NFL gave them permission to use team names and logos. The scene shown in the clip above was filmed after the Super Bowl, and they brought in several thousand extras to fill the seats in the area near where the blimp came into the stadium. This was in the days before CGI, so they used the actual Goodyear Blimp, with Goodyear's permission. In the book, the blimp is owned by a fictional company.
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#11 Post by jarnon » Tue Feb 14, 2023 9:05 am

silverscreenselect wrote:
Mon Feb 13, 2023 11:00 pm
The location footage in Black Sunday was in Miami. There's a chase scene near where my grandmother lived in some older hotels at or near the beach that are now the ritzy South Beach area.
My grandfather lived in that neighborhood in the early 1970s. I recall old apartment buildings, some in Art Deco style, filled with retired Jews and Cubans who watched Bruno Sammartino on TV and the races at the dog track. I couldn't imagine what the area has become.
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#12 Post by Bob Juch » Tue Feb 14, 2023 10:43 am

silverscreenselect wrote:
Mon Feb 13, 2023 11:00 pm
Bob Juch wrote:
Mon Feb 13, 2023 8:27 pm
I was visiting L.A. when they filmed this.
The location footage in Black Sunday was in Miami. There's a chase scene near where my grandmother lived in some older hotels at or near the beach that are now the ritzy South Beach area.

The game was set at the Orange Bowl, and there's a scene where Joe Robbie, owner of the Dolphins at the time, tells the cops that they can't cancel the Super Bowl just because of a credible bomb threat. "That's like cancelling Christmas."

The Thomas Harris (author of Silence of the Lambs) novel is set in New Orleans because the Superdome was under construction at the time. Football games were being played at the open-air Sugar Bowl next door. The Israeli agents use a hook from a crane at the Superdome construction site to hook the blimp and pull it out of the way. When it came time to make the movie, the next Super Bowl in 1976 was being played in Miami, so they changed the location. They shot some scenes during the actual Super Bowl with the actors from the film. The NFL gave them permission to use team names and logos. The scene shown in the clip above was filmed after the Super Bowl, and they brought in several thousand extras to fill the seats in the area near where the blimp came into the stadium. This was in the days before CGI, so they used the actual Goodyear Blimp, with Goodyear's permission. In the book, the blimp is owned by a fictional company.
Yes, they filmed in Miami and at the Orange Bowl, but also in L.A.: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0075765/lo ... tr_ql_dt_5
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#13 Post by silverscreenselect » Tue Feb 14, 2023 9:45 pm

I attended what's now called a test screening of Black Sunday several months before it actually premiered. Director John Frankenheimer was there and thanked people for attending. They got general feedback from the audience about the film and more detailed info from a few (not including me). I do remember that they changed the final shot of the film.

It's a great thriller that holds up well today. The exact nature of the terrorist threat was eerily prescient of the 9/11 terrorists.
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