So, Where Is The Long Thread on Biden and Classified Docs?

[Weyoun]

Curious about how many more "discoveries" it'll take before the excuses run out.

Agreed. It seems like if Trump was really worried about this issue, he would allow federal officials to search all of his facilities, following the good example that Biden has said

[silverscreenselect]

Curious about how many more "discoveries" it'll take before the excuses run out.

Agreed. It seems like if Trump was really worried about this issue, he would allow federal officials to search all of his facilities, following the good example that Biden has said

Also worth noting that Biden let the FBI into his home voluntarily. No search warrant. No subpoena. No fighting the process in court every step of the way.

[tlynn78]

Curious about how many more "discoveries" it'll take before the excuses run out.

Agreed. It seems like if Trump was really worried about this issue, he would allow federal officials to search all of his facilities, following the good example that Biden has said

The federal officials clearly don't feel they need his permission, in case you missed it.

[Bob Juch]

Curious about how many more "discoveries" it'll take before the excuses run out.

Agreed. It seems like if Trump was really worried about this issue, he would allow federal officials to search all of his facilities, following the good example that Biden has said

The federal officials clearly don't feel they need his permission, in case you missed it.

Please cite what you think I missed.

[Bob78164]

Agreed. It seems like if Trump was really worried about this issue, he would allow federal officials to search all of his facilities, following the good example that Biden has said

The federal officials clearly don't feel they need his permission, in case you missed it.

Please cite what you think I missed.

She's pointing out that Donny's properties were searched pursuant to a search warrant, after a federal Magistrate Judge found probable cause that the search would reveal evidence that a crime had been committed. And it's true that when you're attempting to conceal evidence of a crime (such as the refusal to return national defense documents after proper demand), the government can get a judge's approval to search your properties without your permission. --Bob

[Bob Juch]

The federal officials clearly don't feel they need his permission, in case you missed it.

Please cite what you think I missed.

She's pointing out that Donny's properties were searched pursuant to a search warrant, after a federal Magistrate Judge found probable cause that the search would reveal evidence that a crime had been committed. And it's true that when you're attempting to conceal evidence of a crime (such as the refusal to return national defense documents after proper demand), the government can get a judge's approval to search your properties without your permission. --Bob

Maybe I was confused as to who the "he" was.

[Bob78164]

Here is a relatively detailed timeline about what President Biden and his lawyers knew, when they knew it, and what they told the Justice Department. It makes a very clear contrast with Donny's obstructionism and refusal to return documents upon proper demand. --Bob

[tlynn78]

Here is a relatively detailed timeline about what President Biden and his lawyers knew, when they knew it, and what they told the Justice Department. It makes a very clear contrast with Donny's obstructionism and refusal to return documents upon proper demand. --Bob

And who created this 'relatively detailed timeline"?

[Bob78164]

Mike Pence’s turn. —Bob

[silverscreenselect]

Mike Pence’s turn. —Bob

I have a feeling that if you keep going back, you'll probably find a lot of classified documents in the offices/residences of former Presidents/VPs of both parties. This indicates that the system for safeguarding these documents needs significant overhauling. Unfortunately, in today's environment, no one seems interested in doing that. Rather, they want to play gotcha games with each other and set up equivalencies among the various incidents.

[Bob Juch]

Mike Pence’s turn. —Bob

The discovery comes after Pence has repeatedly said he did not have any classified documents in his possession.

[tlynn78]

This story just keeps on giving

[earendel]

Has anyone gone to Mt. Vernon to search for classified documents?

[jarnon]

A question I have is, how do we know how many and what documents were "accidently" left in other places without an FBI raid. That is what's needed, and is the current protocol.

AP source: FBI searched Biden’s former office in November

FBI searches Biden’s Rehoboth home

The FBI apparently agrees that a "search" by a person of interest's lawyers is insufficient. They searched Biden's office back in November and his home shortly after BackInTex's post, and they're at his beach house right now. No need for a "raid" because the Biden team has cooperated with all the searches.

[BackInTex]

A question I have is, how do we know how many and what documents were "accidently" left in other places without an FBI raid. That is what's needed, and is the current protocol.

AP source: FBI searched Biden’s former office in November

FBI searches Biden’s Rehoboth home

The FBI apparently agrees that a "search" by a person of interest's lawyers is insufficient. They searched Biden's office back in November and his home shortly after BackInTex's post, and they're at his beach house right now. No need for a "raid" because the Biden team has cooperated with all the searches.

You and I must have a differnt sense of what cooperating is. Cooperating would have been back in November saying "I have stuff at my home and my beach house. You should look there as well." Cooperating after you've been caught is not cooperating.

Besides, we know the raid was a media stunt intended to harm Trump's image, nothing more.

[silverscreenselect]

Besides, we know the raid was a media stunt intended to harm Trump's image, nothing more.

It's impossible for the media, the FBI, the Democrats, or anyone else to harm Trump's image. He does a great job of that all by himself every single day.

[Bob Juch]

Besides, we know the raid was a media stunt intended to harm Trump's image, nothing more.

It's impossible for the media, the FBI, the Democrats, or anyone else to harm Trump's image. He does a great job of that all by himself every single day.

I love his Stormy Daniels admission.

[Bob78164]

A question I have is, how do we know how many and what documents were "accidently" left in other places without an FBI raid. That is what's needed, and is the current protocol.

AP source: FBI searched Biden’s former office in November

FBI searches Biden’s Rehoboth home

The FBI apparently agrees that a "search" by a person of interest's lawyers is insufficient. They searched Biden's office back in November and his home shortly after BackInTex's post, and they're at his beach house right now. No need for a "raid" because the Biden team has cooperated with all the searches.

You and I must have a differnt sense of what cooperating is. Cooperating would have been back in November saying "I have stuff at my home and my beach house. You should look there as well." Cooperating after you've been caught is not cooperating.

Besides, we know the raid was a media stunt intended to harm Trump's image, nothing more.

President Biden wasn't "caught." He self-reported. Eventually someone realized that if there was stuff that shouldn't have been there at his office, it was possible there was stuff that shouldn't have been there at his house. So they looked, and they turned over what they found.

And it turns out he didn't have anything at his beach house. The FBI's search found nothing.

Contrast with Donny, who lied about having it and refused to return stuff he had no right to keep. That's the part that's criminal. --Bob

[tlynn78]

AP source: FBI searched Biden’s former office in November

FBI searches Biden’s Rehoboth home

The FBI apparently agrees that a "search" by a person of interest's lawyers is insufficient. They searched Biden's office back in November and his home shortly after BackInTex's post, and they're at his beach house right now. No need for a "raid" because the Biden team has cooperated with all the searches.

You and I must have a differnt sense of what cooperating is. Cooperating would have been back in November saying "I have stuff at my home and my beach house. You should look there as well." Cooperating after you've been caught is not cooperating.

Besides, we know the raid was a media stunt intended to harm Trump's image, nothing more.

President Biden wasn't "caught." He self-reported. Eventually someone realized that if there was stuff that shouldn't have been there at his office, it was possible there was stuff that shouldn't have been there at his house. So they looked, and they turned over what they found.

And it turns out he didn't have anything at his beach house. The FBI's search found nothing.

Contrast with Donny, who lied about having it and refused to return stuff he had no right to keep. That's the part that's criminal. --Bob

All "due" respect, I'll await the opinion of others on what is criminal.

[jarnon]

The FBI has searched an archive that Biden donated to the University of Delaware in 2012. No classified documents were found.

Looks like special counsel Hur is investigating whether the Biden team's mishandling of documents was a one-time slip-up or a pattern of carelessness.

I get the impression that the Obama administration was completely unprepared for the Trump victory, and as a result the transition was hurried and slipshod. Somebody could write a book about it.

[Bob78164]

You and I must have a differnt sense of what cooperating is. Cooperating would have been back in November saying "I have stuff at my home and my beach house. You should look there as well." Cooperating after you've been caught is not cooperating.

Besides, we know the raid was a media stunt intended to harm Trump's image, nothing more.

President Biden wasn't "caught." He self-reported. Eventually someone realized that if there was stuff that shouldn't have been there at his office, it was possible there was stuff that shouldn't have been there at his house. So they looked, and they turned over what they found.

And it turns out he didn't have anything at his beach house. The FBI's search found nothing.

Contrast with Donny, who lied about having it and refused to return stuff he had no right to keep. That's the part that's criminal. --Bob

All "due" respect, I'll await the opinion of others on what is criminal.

Now you have it. Donny has been indicted in Florida federal court. I believe the indictment includes one or more counts under the Espionage Act. This is separate from the investigation still proceeding regarding his incitement of an insurrection. --Bob

[jarnon]

WOW! FAKE NEWS CNN, THROUGH A LEAK FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF INJUSTICE, HAS JUST REPORTED THAT NO CHARGES WILL BE FILED IN THE (MUCH BIGGER THAN MINE!!!) CROOKED JOE BIDEN DOCUMENTS CASE. WE ARE LIVING IN A VERY CORRUPT COUNTRY!

[jarnon]

Mike Pence’s turn. —Bob

Pence cleared in classified documents investigation, DOJ says

>>> The letter from DOJ's National Security Division [clearing Pence in early June] comes the week before Pence is expected to announce his candidacy for president in 2024. <<<

If DOJ thought this would boost Pence's campaign against Trump, it didn't.