Really?????????????????BackInTex wrote:Up to this, I thought you have a pretty good perspective on current political matters.NellyLunatic1980 wrote:You know what footage I would pay cash money to see on the teevee machine? John McSame together with everybody's favorite treasonous ex-Marine, Ollie North. North would trump Wright, Ayers, and Rezko combined.lilyvonschtupp26 wrote:And the democrats are ready with the footage of McCain with G. Gordon Liddy, his good buddy. Wait and see. It's coming.
Gore and Edwards need to end this
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Well, for someone I disagree with 85% of the time I thought he had a pretty good perspective.Appa23 wrote:Really?????????????????BackInTex wrote:Up to this, I thought you have a pretty good perspective on current political matters.NellyLunatic1980 wrote: You know what footage I would pay cash money to see on the teevee machine? John McSame together with everybody's favorite treasonous ex-Marine, Ollie North. North would trump Wright, Ayers, and Rezko combined.

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Re: Gore and Edwards need to end this
I agree that Hillary has virtually no chance of winning the nomination at this point barring some monstrous flareup by Obama before she exits the race. But people are missing the boat on what needs to be done.Buffacuse wrote:One joint press conference endorsing Obama by the two of them and it is over--all the superdelegates break for Obama.
Enough. She cannot win. She needs to exit with class--but exit.
1) Many, many Hillary backers, myself included, are extremely angry over the treatment she has received from Obama, his supporters, the DNC and the mainstream media. If Obama wants to heal any divides, and I don't think he really cares about it, the time to start is now, not after she has been forced figuratively at gunpoint out of a race in which the actual total popular votes are very close between them. When McCain sewed up the nomination after Romney dropped out, you didn't see his supporters screaming for Huckabee to get out of the race, even when he got his clock cleaned in a couple of caucuses. Instead, he began to reach out to them and has done about as good a job as possible at healing the divide in the Republican party.
2) By the same token, the matter of FL and MI need to be settled before rather than after Hillary leaves the race. Sitting 400 bodies at an Obama lovefest at the convention is not what these voters want. It's having their votes count in determining the winner, not being let back in after the decision is over.
3) The right wing has been fairly quiet about all this, but Hillary out of the race due to high pressure tactics will have them turn her into a martyr for Democratic elitism, racial politics and every other unfair tactic they can think of. And John McCain will take full advantage of it by giving a wonderful speech when she drops out lauding her great service to the country and the wonderful campaign she's run.
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Re: Gore and Edwards need to end this
You make it sound like Obama has run the more divisive campaign. Which is hilarious.silverscreenselect wrote:I agree that Hillary has virtually no chance of winning the nomination at this point barring some monstrous flareup by Obama before she exits the race. But people are missing the boat on what needs to be done.Buffacuse wrote:One joint press conference endorsing Obama by the two of them and it is over--all the superdelegates break for Obama.
Enough. She cannot win. She needs to exit with class--but exit.
1) Many, many Hillary backers, myself included, are extremely angry over the treatment she has received from Obama, his supporters, the DNC and the mainstream media. If Obama wants to heal any divides, and I don't think he really cares about it, the time to start is now, not after she has been forced figuratively at gunpoint out of a race in which the actual total popular votes are very close between them. When McCain sewed up the nomination after Romney dropped out, you didn't see his supporters screaming for Huckabee to get out of the race, even when he got his clock cleaned in a couple of caucuses. Instead, he began to reach out to them and has done about as good a job as possible at healing the divide in the Republican party.
2) By the same token, the matter of FL and MI need to be settled before rather than after Hillary leaves the race. Sitting 400 bodies at an Obama lovefest at the convention is not what these voters want. It's having their votes count in determining the winner, not being let back in after the decision is over.
3) The right wing has been fairly quiet about all this, but Hillary out of the race due to high pressure tactics will have them turn her into a martyr for Democratic elitism, racial politics and every other unfair tactic they can think of. And John McCain will take full advantage of it by giving a wonderful speech when she drops out lauding her great service to the country and the wonderful campaign she's run.
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Re: Gore and Edwards need to end this
Whether you think Obama has run a divisive campaign or not, here's a fact of politics. It's up to the winner to reach across to the loser if the winner needs the loser's support. As the Civil War ended, Lincoln realized it was important to bring the South back into the Union on dignified terms they could live with. After his death, that idea went up in smoke and this entire country has paid for the harshness of Reconstruction ever since. The Allies in World War I also decided they could rub Germany's nose into the ground, and the world paid the price for that. It's not a matter of right and wrong. The U.S. could have ground Germany and Japan into the dirt after World War II, but they chose to help rebuild the countries instead and that was the right decision.ToLiveIsToFly wrote:You make it sound like Obama has run the more divisive campaign. Which is hilarious.
John McCain realized this. So far, Obama and has fans have not. The extreme pressure on Hillary to get out is not likely to inspire her fans back into the Democratic column in November. So far Obama has literally and figuratively given the finger to them. Running the clock out on Florida and Michigan is not likely to help Obama's chances in either state.
Even Rep. Clyburn is SC, one of the worst at trotting out the racial card on Obama's behalf, realizes that forcing Hillary out of the race won't help Obama's chances.
There is a big part of me that does hope Hillary gets out of the race soon so that Obama and his supporters can begin to reap what they have sown. It will be fun to watch them whine away about unfair tactics as he gets broadsided over and over.
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Re: Gore and Edwards need to end this
Remind me where the Marshall Plan was implemented before Germany surrendered?silverscreenselect wrote:Whether you think Obama has run a divisive campaign or not, here's a fact of politics. It's up to the winner to reach across to the loser if the winner needs the loser's support. As the Civil War ended, Lincoln realized it was important to bring the South back into the Union on dignified terms they could live with. After his death, that idea went up in smoke and this entire country has paid for the harshness of Reconstruction ever since. The Allies in World War I also decided they could rub Germany's nose into the ground, and the world paid the price for that. It's not a matter of right and wrong. The U.S. could have ground Germany and Japan into the dirt after World War II, but they chose to help rebuild the countries instead and that was the right decision.ToLiveIsToFly wrote:You make it sound like Obama has run the more divisive campaign. Which is hilarious.
John McCain realized this. So far, Obama and has fans have not. The extreme pressure on Hillary to get out is not likely to inspire her fans back into the Democratic column in November. So far Obama has literally and figuratively given the finger to them. Running the clock out on Florida and Michigan is not likely to help Obama's chances in either state.
Even Rep. Clyburn is SC, one of the worst at trotting out the racial card on Obama's behalf, realizes that forcing Hillary out of the race won't help Obama's chances.
There is a big part of me that does hope Hillary gets out of the race soon so that Obama and his supporters can begin to reap what they have sown. It will be fun to watch them whine away about unfair tactics as he gets broadsided over and over.
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Was???BackInTex wrote: Obama buddies with a guy who was a terrorist.
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You'd have a great point if that relationship was with *Osama bin Laden himself.*NellyLunatic1980 wrote:Just out of curiosity, has that supposed relationship been longer and more intimate than the Bush family's relationship with the bin Laden family?tanstaafl2 wrote:Was???BackInTex wrote: Obama buddies with a guy who was a terrorist.
Oops... did I let that slip out?
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I got an unpleasant call from the Colorado Clinton campaign prior to the State Convention next week, unpleasant as in pushy.PlacentiaSoccerMom wrote:I got an email from Hillary's campaign today.
Please welcome back to Orange County
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The date is May 15th. Tickets range in price from $250 to $2,300.

Other local Dems who will be attending the convention said that their Clinton caller was downright rude.

I'm guess that this unpleasantness came from their frustration over Colorado being treated like second banana as a caucus state by the Clinton campaign and how we're now being blamed for letting Obama gain an early lead, which is turning into an insurmountable lead.
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Who does she think she is, Hannah Montana?MarleysGh0st wrote:How many tickets are you buying? Front row or the cheap seats?PlacentiaSoccerMom wrote:I got an email from Hillary's campain today.
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If I had been sent an incentive by the government, I might have considered buying a ticket. The irony would have been amusing.MarleysGh0st wrote:How many tickets are you buying? Front row or the cheap seats?PlacentiaSoccerMom wrote:I got an email from Hillary's campain today.
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How can you compare the two?TheConfessor wrote:Who does she think she is, Hannah Montana?MarleysGh0st wrote:How many tickets are you buying? Front row or the cheap seats?PlacentiaSoccerMom wrote:I got an email from Hillary's campain today.
Please welcome back to Orange County
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The date is May 15th. Tickets range in price from $250 to $2,300.
Hannah Montana seats go for at least twice that.
Enough already. It's my fault! Get over it!
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That'll be $10, please.
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Is there such a thing as a Freudian misspelling?PlacentiaSoccerMom wrote:I got an email from Hillary's campain today.
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I heard you laugh too!starfish1113 wrote:This made me laugh out loud! T, you crack me up!tlynn78 wrote:We had a dinner party once where we cleaned up afterward, basically fell asleep on the couch, got in our jammies and started to brush teeth before our last guest left.......
In her defense, Peaby wasn't finished with her dessert.
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