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Buy Electric Cars They Said:

#1 Post by Spock » Wed Aug 31, 2022 8:21 pm

It is the wave of th future they said.

I am ROFLMAO.

https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/ ... 1490204679

>>>"BREAKING: California Power Grid Declares Flex Alert, Urges Residents To Not Charge Electric Vehicles & Set Thermostats To 78 Degrees or Higher -"<<<<

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#2 Post by Bob78164 » Wed Aug 31, 2022 8:35 pm

Spock wrote:
Wed Aug 31, 2022 8:21 pm
It is the wave of th future they said.

I am ROFLMAO.

https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/ ... 1490204679

>>>"BREAKING: California Power Grid Declares Flex Alert, Urges Residents To Not Charge Electric Vehicles & Set Thermostats To 78 Degrees or Higher -"<<<<
As one might expect, the headline is bullshit. We are being asked to charge our electric vehicles either before 4:00 p.m. or after 9:00 p.m. in response to a severe heat wave that is anticipated to stress the power system. Death Valley is predicted to record the highest temperature ever recorded on Earth in the month of September.

Our grid is up to the challenge, with some cooperation from our citizens. Now if, like Spock, everyone insists on doing whatever they damn well please when they damn well please, no matter the consequences to those around them, we might have a problem. But I have confidence in my fellow Californians. --Bob
"Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason than that of blindfolded fear." Thomas Jefferson

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#3 Post by jarnon » Wed Aug 31, 2022 8:44 pm

Spock wrote:
Wed Aug 31, 2022 8:21 pm
It is the wave of th future they said.

I am ROFLMAO.

https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/ ... 1490204679

>>>"BREAKING: California Power Grid Declares Flex Alert, Urges Residents To Not Charge Electric Vehicles & Set Thermostats To 78 Degrees or Higher -"<<<<
They can still charge their cars for 19 hours out of 24.

Not as bad as this:

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Re: Buy Electric Cars They Said:

#4 Post by Spock » Thu Sep 01, 2022 9:14 am

How in the Hell is California's Grid going to handle the ever-increasing number of electric cars they are mandating?

California TPTB has announced no sales of non-EV's will be allowed after 2035 or whatever.

So as you jump from 15% EV's or whatever it is today to 75% or whateve- the blackouts will obviously increase-but as we all know-rolling blackouts are a feature (not a bug) of the new "Green World" that we are building.

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#5 Post by BackInTex » Thu Sep 01, 2022 9:58 am

Spock wrote:
Thu Sep 01, 2022 9:14 am
How in the Hell is California's Grid going to handle the ever-increasing number of electric cars they are mandating?

California TPTB has announced no sales of non-EV's will be allowed after 2035 or whatever.

So as you jump from 15% EV's or whatever it is today to 75% or whateve- the blackouts will obviously increase-but as we all know-rolling blackouts are a feature (not a bug) of the new "Green World" that we are building.
More wind farms that kill Eagle and Condors?
Other than that, more fossil fuel generating stations.
I guess you could so more solar, too, but in a state that has twenty pages of red tape to cut down a tree and won't allow hyrdro electric because of a garter, putting up that much solar will certainly have unintentional consequences for some creature(s).


California is doubling down on stupid.
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#6 Post by tlynn78 » Thu Sep 01, 2022 10:15 am

BackInTex wrote:
Thu Sep 01, 2022 9:58 am
Spock wrote:
Thu Sep 01, 2022 9:14 am
How in the Hell is California's Grid going to handle the ever-increasing number of electric cars they are mandating?

California TPTB has announced no sales of non-EV's will be allowed after 2035 or whatever.

So as you jump from 15% EV's or whatever it is today to 75% or whateve- the blackouts will obviously increase-but as we all know-rolling blackouts are a feature (not a bug) of the new "Green World" that we are building.
More wind farms that kill Eagle and Condors?
Other than that, more fossil fuel generating stations.
I guess you could so more solar, too, but in a state that has twenty pages of red tape to cut down a tree and won't allow hyrdro electric because of a garter, putting up that much solar will certainly have unintentional consequences for some creature(s).


California is doubling down on stupid.
I feel like their ancestors were the ones laughing and dancing their way to the top of the volcano right before they were tossed in...
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#7 Post by Bob78164 » Thu Sep 01, 2022 11:30 am

BackInTex wrote:
Thu Sep 01, 2022 9:58 am
Spock wrote:
Thu Sep 01, 2022 9:14 am
How in the Hell is California's Grid going to handle the ever-increasing number of electric cars they are mandating?

California TPTB has announced no sales of non-EV's will be allowed after 2035 or whatever.

So as you jump from 15% EV's or whatever it is today to 75% or whateve- the blackouts will obviously increase-but as we all know-rolling blackouts are a feature (not a bug) of the new "Green World" that we are building.
More wind farms that kill Eagle and Condors?
Other than that, more fossil fuel generating stations.
I guess you could so more solar, too, but in a state that has twenty pages of red tape to cut down a tree and won't allow hyrdro electric because of a garter, putting up that much solar will certainly have unintentional consequences for some creature(s).


California is doubling down on stupid.
And yet California, currently the world's fifth largest economy, continues to grow. I'm hearing we will overtake Germany for fourth place sometime this year. --Bob
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#8 Post by Estonut » Thu Sep 01, 2022 1:44 pm

Bob78164 wrote:
Thu Sep 01, 2022 11:30 am
BackInTex wrote:
Thu Sep 01, 2022 9:58 am
Spock wrote:
Thu Sep 01, 2022 9:14 am
How in the Hell is California's Grid going to handle the ever-increasing number of electric cars they are mandating?

California TPTB has announced no sales of non-EV's will be allowed after 2035 or whatever.

So as you jump from 15% EV's or whatever it is today to 75% or whateve- the blackouts will obviously increase-but as we all know-rolling blackouts are a feature (not a bug) of the new "Green World" that we are building.
More wind farms that kill Eagle and Condors?
Other than that, more fossil fuel generating stations.
I guess you could so more solar, too, but in a state that has twenty pages of red tape to cut down a tree and won't allow hyrdro electric because of a garter, putting up that much solar will certainly have unintentional consequences for some creature(s).


California is doubling down on stupid.
And yet California, currently the world's fifth largest economy, continues to grow. I'm hearing we will overtake Germany for fourth place sometime this year.
Do you really think everything is peachy here?

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#9 Post by Bob78164 » Thu Sep 01, 2022 2:28 pm

Estonut wrote:
Thu Sep 01, 2022 1:44 pm
Bob78164 wrote:
Thu Sep 01, 2022 11:30 am
BackInTex wrote:
Thu Sep 01, 2022 9:58 am
More wind farms that kill Eagle and Condors?
Other than that, more fossil fuel generating stations.
I guess you could so more solar, too, but in a state that has twenty pages of red tape to cut down a tree and won't allow hyrdro electric because of a garter, putting up that much solar will certainly have unintentional consequences for some creature(s).


California is doubling down on stupid.
And yet California, currently the world's fifth largest economy, continues to grow. I'm hearing we will overtake Germany for fourth place sometime this year.
Do you really think everything is peachy here?

eta "really"
No, but our problems are primarily related to the self-inflicted difficulty of building housing here, which is by far the largest driver of California's affordability issues. --Bob
"Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason than that of blindfolded fear." Thomas Jefferson

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#10 Post by themanintheseersuckersuit » Fri Sep 02, 2022 12:26 pm

Ask not what your windmills and solar farms can do for you, ask what you can do for your windmills and solar farms - Gavin Newsom 2022
Suitguy is not bitter.

feels he represents the many educated and rational onlookers who believe that the hysterical denouncement of lay scepticism is both unwarranted and counter-productive

The problem, then, is that such calls do not address an opposition audience so much as they signal virtue. They talk past those who need convincing. They ignore actual facts and counterargument. And they are irreparably smug.

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#11 Post by jarnon » Sun Feb 12, 2023 9:52 am

Electric vehicle batteries require precious minerals. That old cellphone may be the solution

You have to recycle a lot of cell phones to get enough lithium and cobalt for an EV.

Pull quote >>> Growing interest in EVs has accelerated the push for valuable minerals like cobalt, nickel and lithium that are extracted from overseas mines at heavy environmental and humanitarian costs. <<<

That's an understatement. Here's what's going on in Spock's beloved Africa:

The truth about the Congolese mines where kids are paid $2-a-day to dig for cobalt

It's no surprise that the mines are Chinese owned and operated.
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