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Re: If The Thomas Boy

#26 Post by flockofseagulls104 » Mon Apr 04, 2022 2:35 pm

Bob78164 wrote:
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FYI, the use of the pronoun "it" is deeply offensive to trans people. Not that I think you would, but I would call you out for using n***** to describe an African-American so I am calling you out on this.
Is it as offensive as having others think they need to speak for them? I would suppose trans people are as individual as anyone else; some may take offense while others couldn't care less. I would also suppose that for the most part, they are as capable of speaking up for themselves as any other person.
So by this same reasoning, flock shouldn't weigh in on Don't Say Gay because he has no kids in Florida K-3 classes and the parents of such kids are perfectly capable of speaking for themselves? --Bob
Disney dragged me into it, bob.

I'll wait until you issue a correction, bob. I'm sure I will have to buy several watches to tape.
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Re: If The Thomas Boy

#27 Post by silverscreenselect » Mon Apr 04, 2022 2:43 pm

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Disney dragged me into it, bob.
I can't begin to count the number of arguments that the MyPillow guy has dragged me into.

Oh wait, I can. The answer is zero.
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Re: If The Thomas Boy

#28 Post by flockofseagulls104 » Mon Apr 04, 2022 2:55 pm

My guess as to the staker's post:
He will restate what bob said in different words. He will say that I am somehow hypocritical and bring up some other incident that he had a problem with. He will say that I am a puppet of his newest boogeyman, Tucker Carlson. (At least he's off Hannity. I guess that's progress). And he will take his ubiquitous swipe at me that he thinks is somehow clever.

Am I in the ballpark? I might take a glance this one time and see.
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Re: If The Thomas Boy

#29 Post by flockofseagulls104 » Mon Apr 04, 2022 2:59 pm

Well, not close this time. Of course, he avoided the whole point of my post. But we do have another boogeyman. And I'm still taping my watch.
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Re: If The Thomas Boy

#30 Post by Bob78164 » Mon Apr 04, 2022 3:10 pm

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Hate to disabuse you of false perceptions, but not all repubs do that. You deliberately didn't respond to my comment.
I didn't claim all Republicans do that. I called out flock and (in the past) BiT, who do.
You have expressed your desire to obliterate the party many times. Do I need to search the whole history here? And, I don't recall them, Flock or BiT,supporting your assertion.
I believe the Republican Party deserves political destruction because it's allowed itself to be captured by the anti-American force known as Trumpism. Part of the reason for that capture is that Donny was and is extremely willing to play to the bigots, but that's only part of it.

And yes, BiT is quite clear about his insistence on misgendering the trans. Just as flock is being equally clear about his insistence on misgendering a trans athlete because he doesn't like the rules that allow her to compete. --Bob
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Re: If The Thomas Boy

#31 Post by BackInTex » Mon Apr 04, 2022 3:17 pm

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The more that other people speak up for trans people (or any other marginalized group), the more difficult it is for people like Flock to claim it's just a handful of malcontents with an agenda.
And of course, like the poor minorities, they just aren't capable, right?
So you believe we should just stand silent when we see conduct that is wrong, leaving those who are wronged to wonder whether they have any allies or whether, as they have for so long, they have to fight this battle themselves?

Not gonna happen. I'll call out bigotry wherever I see it. And if the bigots are offended, I really don't care. --Bob
You proudly defended a guy who wanted to publish nude pictures of someone without their consent. That is wrong. it may have been legal, I don’t know, but certainly wrong.

You’re lecturing is laughable.
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Re: If The Thomas Boy

#32 Post by flockofseagulls104 » Mon Apr 04, 2022 3:17 pm

Bob78164 wrote:
Mon Apr 04, 2022 3:10 pm
Beebs52 wrote:
Mon Apr 04, 2022 2:34 pm
Bob78164 wrote:
Mon Apr 04, 2022 2:22 pm
I didn't claim all Republicans do that. I called out flock and (in the past) BiT, who do.
You have expressed your desire to obliterate the party many times. Do I need to search the whole history here? And, I don't recall them, Flock or BiT,supporting your assertion.
I believe the Republican Party deserves political destruction because it's allowed itself to be captured by the anti-American force known as Trumpism. Part of the reason for that capture is that Donny was and is extremely willing to play to the bigots, but that's only part of it.

And yes, BiT is quite clear about his insistence on misgendering the trans. Just as flock is being equally clear about his insistence on misgendering a trans athlete because he doesn't like the rules that allow her to compete. --Bob
Yes bob, I was very clear on that. If he wants to use his XY chromosomes and post-pubescent body to compete against bio-women, he deserves scorn. If he truly believes he wants to live his life as a woman, he should give up the opportunity to compete athletically against biological females. But I believe he had an agenda, and it is enabled by people like you. You give NO THOUGHT to the young girls who he is hurting. He made that choice. So I don't respect HIM or his wishes.

And you, being an e-bigot, make the same mistake over and over by thinking that Trump or any of his supporters have any sympathy for White Supremacists. You have no standing to call anyone else a bigot.
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#33 Post by Bob78164 » Mon Apr 04, 2022 3:20 pm

BackInTex wrote:
Mon Apr 04, 2022 3:17 pm
Bob78164 wrote:
Mon Apr 04, 2022 1:58 pm
tlynn78 wrote:
Mon Apr 04, 2022 1:52 pm
And of course, like the poor minorities, they just aren't capable, right?
So you believe we should just stand silent when we see conduct that is wrong, leaving those who are wronged to wonder whether they have any allies or whether, as they have for so long, they have to fight this battle themselves?

Not gonna happen. I'll call out bigotry wherever I see it. And if the bigots are offended, I really don't care. --Bob
You proudly defended a guy who wanted to publish nude pictures of someone without their consent. That is wrong. it may have been legal, I don’t know, but certainly wrong.
What are you talking about? --Bob
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#34 Post by silverscreenselect » Mon Apr 04, 2022 3:44 pm

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If he wants to use his XY chromosomes and post-pubescent body to compete against bio-women, he deserves scorn.
Well, she followed all the NCAA eligibility rules. And once again, you, based on nothing whatsoever other than your preconceived prejudices, have determined that she has an unfair advantage over other women.
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#35 Post by silverscreenselect » Mon Apr 04, 2022 3:47 pm

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And you, being an e-bigot, make the same mistake over and over by thinking that Trump or any of his supporters have any sympathy for White Supremacists.
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#36 Post by Bob Juch » Mon Apr 04, 2022 3:55 pm

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I would also suppose that for the most part, they are as capable of speaking up for themselves as any other person.
The more that other people speak up for trans people (or any other marginalized group), the more difficult it is for people like Flock to claim it's just a handful of malcontents with an agenda.
You may be right, but some folks, and I think you may be in the group, speak up just because of faux lib guilt, past transgressions, "old white man savior complex", etc, eh?
No, it's because I was bullied when I was a child so now since I'm able, I go after bullies.
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#37 Post by Beebs52 » Mon Apr 04, 2022 3:59 pm

Bob78164 wrote:
Mon Apr 04, 2022 3:10 pm
Beebs52 wrote:
Mon Apr 04, 2022 2:34 pm
Bob78164 wrote:
Mon Apr 04, 2022 2:22 pm
I didn't claim all Republicans do that. I called out flock and (in the past) BiT, who do.
You have expressed your desire to obliterate the party many times. Do I need to search the whole history here? And, I don't recall them, Flock or BiT,supporting your assertion.
I believe the Republican Party deserves political destruction because it's allowed itself to be captured by the anti-American force known as Trumpism. Part of the reason for that capture is that Donny was and is extremely willing to play to the bigots, but that's only part of it.

And yes, BiT is quite clear about his insistence on misgendering the trans. Just as flock is being equally clear about his insistence on misgendering a trans athlete because he doesn't like the rules that allow her to compete. --Bob
And most dems are cool with incremental socialism, communism, etc, and are an anti-American cabal. You must be tons of fun at a party.
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#38 Post by flockofseagulls104 » Mon Apr 04, 2022 4:06 pm

Here's some links for the e-bigots to NOT read and to ignore. Of course, that won't stop them from criticizing their content. Because they personally know transgender people and they assume I don't, so they know a lot better than me or anyone else about this topic.

https://sportsscientists.com/2019/03/on ... dvantages/

https://thefederalist.com/2019/08/08/st ... njections/

This last one summarizes a study published by the Journal of Medical Ethics. I have no idea whether the Journal of Medical Ethics is a bonafide publication. But just by being mentioned by me it is probably some right-wing hate group rag written by a group of nazis or something. But if you wish to make sure the Federalist is summarizing the report accurately, you can link to the actual study, but it looks like it'll cost you $40. Just sayin....
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#39 Post by BackInTex » Mon Apr 04, 2022 4:11 pm

Bob78164 wrote:
Mon Apr 04, 2022 3:20 pm
BackInTex wrote:
Mon Apr 04, 2022 3:17 pm
Bob78164 wrote:
Mon Apr 04, 2022 1:58 pm
So you believe we should just stand silent when we see conduct that is wrong, leaving those who are wronged to wonder whether they have any allies or whether, as they have for so long, they have to fight this battle themselves?

Not gonna happen. I'll call out bigotry wherever I see it. And if the bigots are offended, I really don't care. --Bob
You proudly defended a guy who wanted to publish nude pictures of someone without their consent. That is wrong. it may have been legal, I don’t know, but certainly wrong.
What are you talking about? --Bob
Seriously? Your bio on your firm’s website. I have to assume it’s something your proud as it is 1 of only 10 cases listed.
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#40 Post by BackInTex » Mon Apr 04, 2022 4:17 pm

silverscreenselect wrote:
Mon Apr 04, 2022 3:44 pm
flockofseagulls104 wrote:
Mon Apr 04, 2022 3:17 pm
If he wants to use his XY chromosomes and post-pubescent body to compete against bio-women, he deserves scorn.
Well, she followed all the NCAA eligibility rules. And once again, you, based on nothing whatsoever other than your preconceived prejudices, have determined that she has an unfair advantage over other women.
Well, Kaitlin Jenner and Billy Jean King agree with Flock. Do they have preconceived prejudices?
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#41 Post by Bob78164 » Mon Apr 04, 2022 4:20 pm

BackInTex wrote:
Mon Apr 04, 2022 4:11 pm
Bob78164 wrote:
Mon Apr 04, 2022 3:20 pm
BackInTex wrote:
Mon Apr 04, 2022 3:17 pm
You proudly defended a guy who wanted to publish nude pictures of someone without their consent. That is wrong. it may have been legal, I don’t know, but certainly wrong.
What are you talking about? --Bob
Seriously? Your bio on your firm’s website. I have to assume it’s something your proud as it is 1 of only 10 cases listed.
We were hired after publication by the company's general counsel (a woman, by the way) to defend the company from a post-publication lawsuit. As a lawyer, I have an ethical obligation to zealously defend my client's interests in court without making moral judgments about my client's conduct. It's the job of the other side's lawyer to make the case against my client. It's the job of the Legislature to make moral judgments about what the law should be. That's how the adversary system works, and it doesn't work if either side is pulling their punches because one of the lawyers has a personal issue with the conduct being litigated.

As I've often said in the context of criminal defense work (which I don't do), defense counsel is the Quality Control Department for the criminal justice system. And I really don't think we want a criminal justice system that operates without a Quality Control Department. --Bob
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#42 Post by flockofseagulls104 » Mon Apr 04, 2022 4:22 pm

BackInTex wrote:
Mon Apr 04, 2022 4:17 pm
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Mon Apr 04, 2022 3:44 pm
flockofseagulls104 wrote:
Mon Apr 04, 2022 3:17 pm
If he wants to use his XY chromosomes and post-pubescent body to compete against bio-women, he deserves scorn.
Well, she followed all the NCAA eligibility rules. And once again, you, based on nothing whatsoever other than your preconceived prejudices, have determined that she has an unfair advantage over other women.
Well, Kaitlin Jenner and Billy Jean King agree with Flock. Do they have preconceived prejudices?
Oh, I beg to disagree with you there, stalker. I just posted a few things that are not my preconceived prejudices. Feel free to ignore them.
The NCAA eligibility rules are ignorant and based on political correctness, not on any science. Just like you, they don't know that they don't know what they don't know. They assume they know everything.
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#43 Post by Bob78164 » Mon Apr 04, 2022 4:23 pm

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Bob78164 wrote:
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What are you talking about? --Bob
Seriously? Your bio on your firm’s website. I have to assume it’s something your proud as it is 1 of only 10 cases listed.
We were hired after publication by the company's general counsel (a woman, by the way) to defend the company from a post-publication lawsuit. As a lawyer, I have an ethical obligation to zealously defend my client's interests in court without making moral judgments about my client's conduct. It's the job of the other side's lawyer to make the case against my client. It's the job of the Legislature to make moral judgments about what the law should be. That's how the adversary system works, and it doesn't work if either side is pulling their punches because one of the lawyers has a personal issue with the conduct being litigated.

As I've often said in the context of criminal defense work (which I don't do), defense counsel is the Quality Control Department for the criminal justice system. And I really don't think we want a criminal justice system that operates without a Quality Control Department. --Bob
And by the way, if you're thinking I had some responsibility for accepting that case, I was at the time a fourth-year associate who was assigned to the case immediately after returning from my honeymoon. And the firm I was working for then turns out to be one of the most (politically) conservative firms in the city, so as you can imagine it wasn't a great fit, and I ended up leaving around the turn of the century. --Bob
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#44 Post by flockofseagulls104 » Mon Apr 04, 2022 4:26 pm

Bob78164 wrote:
Mon Apr 04, 2022 4:23 pm
Bob78164 wrote:
Mon Apr 04, 2022 4:20 pm
BackInTex wrote:
Mon Apr 04, 2022 4:11 pm
Seriously? Your bio on your firm’s website. I have to assume it’s something your proud as it is 1 of only 10 cases listed.
We were hired after publication by the company's general counsel (a woman, by the way) to defend the company from a post-publication lawsuit. As a lawyer, I have an ethical obligation to zealously defend my client's interests in court without making moral judgments about my client's conduct. It's the job of the other side's lawyer to make the case against my client. It's the job of the Legislature to make moral judgments about what the law should be. That's how the adversary system works, and it doesn't work if either side is pulling their punches because one of the lawyers has a personal issue with the conduct being litigated.

As I've often said in the context of criminal defense work (which I don't do), defense counsel is the Quality Control Department for the criminal justice system. And I really don't think we want a criminal justice system that operates without a Quality Control Department. --Bob
And by the way, if you're thinking I had some responsibility for accepting that case, I was at the time a fourth-year associate who was assigned to the case immediately after returning from my honeymoon. And the firm I was working for then turns out to be one of the most (politically) conservative firms in the city, so as you can imagine it wasn't a great fit, and I ended up leaving around the turn of the century. --Bob
That must have been before he became an above-average lawyer.
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#45 Post by BackInTex » Mon Apr 04, 2022 4:29 pm

Bob78164 wrote:
Mon Apr 04, 2022 4:23 pm
Bob78164 wrote:
Mon Apr 04, 2022 4:20 pm
BackInTex wrote:
Mon Apr 04, 2022 4:11 pm
Seriously? Your bio on your firm’s website. I have to assume it’s something your proud as it is 1 of only 10 cases listed.
We were hired after publication by the company's general counsel (a woman, by the way) to defend the company from a post-publication lawsuit. As a lawyer, I have an ethical obligation to zealously defend my client's interests in court without making moral judgments about my client's conduct. It's the job of the other side's lawyer to make the case against my client. It's the job of the Legislature to make moral judgments about what the law should be. That's how the adversary system works, and it doesn't work if either side is pulling their punches because one of the lawyers has a personal issue with the conduct being litigated.

As I've often said in the context of criminal defense work (which I don't do), defense counsel is the Quality Control Department for the criminal justice system. And I really don't think we want a criminal justice system that operates without a Quality Control Department. --Bob
And by the way, if you're thinking I had some responsibility for accepting that case, I was at the time a fourth-year associate who was assigned to the case immediately after returning from my honeymoon. And the firm I was working for then turns out to be one of the most (politically) conservative firms in the city, so as you can imagine it wasn't a great fit, and I ended up leaving around the turn of the century. --Bob
Don’t blame others or you position within the company. Nothing ethics, morals, duty, whatever, says you have to put it up as one of your top 10. You’re proud of it.
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Re: If The Thomas Boy

#46 Post by Bob78164 » Mon Apr 04, 2022 4:40 pm

BackInTex wrote:
Mon Apr 04, 2022 4:29 pm
Bob78164 wrote:
Mon Apr 04, 2022 4:23 pm
Bob78164 wrote:
Mon Apr 04, 2022 4:20 pm
We were hired after publication by the company's general counsel (a woman, by the way) to defend the company from a post-publication lawsuit. As a lawyer, I have an ethical obligation to zealously defend my client's interests in court without making moral judgments about my client's conduct. It's the job of the other side's lawyer to make the case against my client. It's the job of the Legislature to make moral judgments about what the law should be. That's how the adversary system works, and it doesn't work if either side is pulling their punches because one of the lawyers has a personal issue with the conduct being litigated.

As I've often said in the context of criminal defense work (which I don't do), defense counsel is the Quality Control Department for the criminal justice system. And I really don't think we want a criminal justice system that operates without a Quality Control Department. --Bob
And by the way, if you're thinking I had some responsibility for accepting that case, I was at the time a fourth-year associate who was assigned to the case immediately after returning from my honeymoon. And the firm I was working for then turns out to be one of the most (politically) conservative firms in the city, so as you can imagine it wasn't a great fit, and I ended up leaving around the turn of the century. --Bob
Don’t blame others or you position within the company. Nothing ethics, morals, duty, whatever, says you have to put it up as one of your top 10. You’re proud of it.
Again (and without getting into privileged information), you have your facts wrong. Yes, I am proud to have been part of a legal team handling a high-profile First Amendment case based on a post-publication lawsuit. Just as I am proud of my current work defending Haely White against the lawsuit The Abbey filed against her.

Tell me, do you think Viet Nam vets should leave that information off of their resumes if they happened to believe the war was immoral? --Bob
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Re: If The Thomas Boy

#47 Post by tlynn78 » Mon Apr 04, 2022 4:48 pm

Bob78164 wrote:
Mon Apr 04, 2022 4:40 pm
BackInTex wrote:
Mon Apr 04, 2022 4:29 pm
Bob78164 wrote:
Mon Apr 04, 2022 4:23 pm
And by the way, if you're thinking I had some responsibility for accepting that case, I was at the time a fourth-year associate who was assigned to the case immediately after returning from my honeymoon. And the firm I was working for then turns out to be one of the most (politically) conservative firms in the city, so as you can imagine it wasn't a great fit, and I ended up leaving around the turn of the century. --Bob
Don’t blame others or you position within the company. Nothing ethics, morals, duty, whatever, says you have to put it up as one of your top 10. You’re proud of it.
Again (and without getting into privileged information), you have your facts wrong. Yes, I am proud to have been part of a legal team handling a high-profile First Amendment case based on a post-publication lawsuit. Just as I am proud of my current work defending Haely White against the lawsuit The Abbey filed against her.

Tell me, do you think Viet Nam vets should leave that information off of their resumes if they happened to believe the war was immoral? --Bob
You are JUST LIKE a war veteran! Stolen valor is so cool!
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Re: If The Thomas Boy

#48 Post by silverscreenselect » Mon Apr 04, 2022 4:54 pm

flockofseagulls104 wrote:
Mon Apr 04, 2022 3:17 pm
If he wants to use his XY chromosomes and post-pubescent body to compete against bio-women, he deserves scorn.
The NCAA eligibility rules are ignorant and based on political correctness, not on any science.
Let's see. She plays by the rules and deserves scorn because you believe the rules are ignorant.

Got it.
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Re: If The Thomas Boy

#49 Post by Beebs52 » Mon Apr 04, 2022 5:01 pm

tlynn78 wrote:
Mon Apr 04, 2022 4:48 pm
Bob78164 wrote:
Mon Apr 04, 2022 4:40 pm
BackInTex wrote:
Mon Apr 04, 2022 4:29 pm
Don’t blame others or you position within the company. Nothing ethics, morals, duty, whatever, says you have to put it up as one of your top 10. You’re proud of it.
Again (and without getting into privileged information), you have your facts wrong. Yes, I am proud to have been part of a legal team handling a high-profile First Amendment case based on a post-publication lawsuit. Just as I am proud of my current work defending Haely White against the lawsuit The Abbey filed against her.

Tell me, do you think Viet Nam vets should leave that information off of their resumes if they happened to believe the war was immoral? --Bob
You are JUST LIKE a war veteran! Stolen valor is so cool!
Honestly. That is just weird.
Well, then

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Re: If The Thomas Boy

#50 Post by BackInTex » Mon Apr 04, 2022 5:24 pm

silverscreenselect wrote:
Mon Apr 04, 2022 4:54 pm
flockofseagulls104 wrote:
Mon Apr 04, 2022 3:17 pm
If he wants to use his XY chromosomes and post-pubescent body to compete against bio-women, he deserves scorn.
The NCAA eligibility rules are ignorant and based on political correctness, not on any science.
Let's see. She plays by the rules and deserves scorn because you believe the rules are ignorant.

Got it.
Isn’t that what you said Stacy Abrams is doing?

Her opponent played by the rules but she claims the rules were wrong so she should have won?
..what country can preserve it’s liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? let them take arms.
~~ Thomas Jefferson

War is where the government tells you who the bad guy is.
Revolution is when you decide that for yourself.
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