TFG doubles down on praise of Putin

[Bob78164]

I know it's a stretch for you, Bobbo, but:
A. you don't get to say what I "must" do or not do, feel or not feel.
B. People of the same political affiliation can disagree on some matters and not others.

Not everyone walks in lock-step with members of their party. I know, I know, don't let the concept pop your brain, boo.

I'm a Democrat. For us, party discipline is a largely unknown concept. As you would know if you ever read news sources not named Fox.

But how the hell does ANYONE oppose on the floor of the House a resolution supporting Ukraine? --Bob

Exactly. I don't support them. What's your point.

Tgirl did support one of the three. Explicitly. Here on this Bored. --Bob

[tlynn78]

I'm a Democrat. For us, party discipline is a largely unknown concept. As you would know if you ever read news sources not named Fox.

But how the hell does ANYONE oppose on the floor of the House a resolution supporting Ukraine? --Bob

Exactly. I don't support them. What's your point.

Tgirl did support one of the three. Explicitly. Here on this Bored. --Bob

Sweet Jesus. Show me, Bobbo, where I explicitly said I support Rosendale, and every one of his votes, now and forever.
I was wrong about my truck driver analogy. Truck drivers are useful and valuable contributors to society. You guys are more like pigeons, who strut around shitting on everything, because you have nothing better in your lives to do.

[tlynn78]

Exactly. I don't support them. What's your point.

Tgirl did support one of the three. Explicitly. Here on this Bored. --Bob

Sweet Jesus. Show me, Bobbo, where I explicitly said I support Rosendale, and every one of his votes, now and forever.
I was wrong about my truck driver analogy. Truck drivers are useful and valuable contributors to society. You guys are more like pigeons, who strut around shitting on everything, because you have nothing better in your lives to do.

I did a admittedly quick search. The below is the text of the only other mention I can find of Rosendale outside this thread:

"Per usual post election day, I'm confused by Montana's purpleness.
How does Gianforte (R) won with a comfortable 25,049 vote lead, but Rosendale (R) lost to Tester by 15,318. It's weird to me that Rosendale didn't get at least as many votes as Gianforte, especially given that Rosendale didn't 'bodyslam' anyone.
Closer to home, we will have two new judicial departments in the new year, and in one, the winner (D-although listed on the ballot as non-partisan; most everyone knows who's D and who's R) in one department has a comfortable 7700 vote lead over the R candidate (both good attorneys who would do a good job), but in the other race, the Dem is leading the R by only 59 votes. where did those 7700 voters go, who went Dem in the other department? The (D) candidate is a much stronger candidate, in my opinion, and I just can't figure where her support went. Just weird."

You're a pigeon, with a rich fantasy life. Bless your heart.

[Bob78164]

Exactly. I don't support them. What's your point.

Tgirl did support one of the three. Explicitly. Here on this Bored. --Bob

Sweet Jesus. Show me, Bobbo, where I explicitly said I support Rosendale, and every one of his votes, now and forever.
I was wrong about my truck driver analogy. Truck drivers are useful and valuable contributors to society. You guys are more like pigeons, who strut around shitting on everything, because you have nothing better in your lives to do.

Are you claiming you didn't support the Republican nominee for Montana's only House seat? Are you saying that you won't support his reelection bid? Because I'm pretty sure the simple fact that he'll run with an R after his name means that you will. Hell, you supported a confessed criminal for that seat, and then for Governor, for exactly the same reason. There is literally nothing a Republican could do that could get you not to vote for him.

And if you (and others like you) are going to support his reelection bid, then yes, you're supporting his votes by failing to impose any consequences for them. --Bob

[Beebs52]

Bob. Seriously.

[tlynn78]

Tgirl did support one of the three. Explicitly. Here on this Bored. --Bob

Sweet Jesus. Show me, Bobbo, where I explicitly said I support Rosendale, and every one of his votes, now and forever.
I was wrong about my truck driver analogy. Truck drivers are useful and valuable contributors to society. You guys are more like pigeons, who strut around shitting on everything, because you have nothing better in your lives to do.

Are you claiming you didn't support the Republican nominee for Montana's only House seat? Are you saying that you won't support his reelection bid? Because I'm pretty sure the simple fact that he'll run with an R after his name means that you will. Hell, you supported a confessed criminal for that seat, and then for Governor, for exactly the same reason. There is literally nothing a Republican could do that could get you not to vote for him.

And if you (and others like you) are going to support his reelection bid, then yes, you're supporting his votes by failing to impose any consequences for them. --Bob

Lol

[tlynn78]

Bob. Seriously.

Beebs, you can't expect serious from a clown. Don't hold your breath waiting for him to prove his claim about my "explicit" support, as it's demonstrably false.

[flockofseagulls104]

Tgirl did support one of the three. Explicitly. Here on this Bored. --Bob

Sweet Jesus. Show me, Bobbo, where I explicitly said I support Rosendale, and every one of his votes, now and forever.
I was wrong about my truck driver analogy. Truck drivers are useful and valuable contributors to society. You guys are more like pigeons, who strut around shitting on everything, because you have nothing better in your lives to do.

Are you claiming you didn't support the Republican nominee for Montana's only House seat? Are you saying that you won't support his reelection bid? Because I'm pretty sure the simple fact that he'll run with an R after his name means that you will. Hell, you supported a confessed criminal for that seat, and then for Governor, for exactly the same reason. There is literally nothing a Republican could do that could get you not to vote for him.

And if you (and others like you) are going to support his reelection bid, then yes, you're supporting his votes by failing to impose any consequences for them. --Bob

Bob, you have some nerve posting something like this when you've repeatedly stated your support for one-party rule of your state, if not the entire country. Is it possible for you to accept that someone might not agree with you and yet not be an EVIL person?

I read through the house's NON-BINDING resolution, which means less than the paper it's printed on. And I can see at least one point that is legitimately debatable.

(3) backs the continued use of sanctions, in coordination with United States allies and partners, to fully isolate the Putin regime economically for its unprovoked aggression against Ukraine;

Many historians who have been certified as not evil believe that the Allies excessive punishment of Germany after WWI led directly to the rise of Naziism and Hitler. Meant to isolate Germany's government, it mainly hurt the German people and paved the way for someone like Hitler to seize power.

Perhaps, bob, they believe that the use of sanctions would eventually lead to worse consequences. Are they EVIL for having that opinion? What punishment, bob, do you think should be given them?

This is America, bob, and people are entitled to their opinions, especially in Congress. What is evil, bob, is for people like you to defame and demonize anyone who has an opinion that differs from yours. And what borders on psychotic is you trying to transfer that onto tlynn. Truly disgusting, bob.

[Spock]

Sweet Jesus. Show me, Bobbo, where I explicitly said I support Rosendale, and every one of his votes, now and forever.
I was wrong about my truck driver analogy. Truck drivers are useful and valuable contributors to society. You guys are more like pigeons, who strut around shitting on everything, because you have nothing better in your lives to do.

Are you claiming you didn't support the Republican nominee for Montana's only House seat? Are you saying that you won't support his reelection bid? Because I'm pretty sure the simple fact that he'll run with an R after his name means that you will. Hell, you supported a confessed criminal for that seat, and then for Governor, for exactly the same reason. There is literally nothing a Republican could do that could get you not to vote for him.

And if you (and others like you) are going to support his reelection bid, then yes, you're supporting his votes by failing to impose any consequences for them. --Bob

Bob, you have some nerve posting something like this when you've repeatedly stated your support for one-party rule of your state, if not the entire country. Is it possible for you to accept that someone might not agree with you and yet not be an EVIL person?

I read through the house's NON-BINDING resolution, which means less than the paper it's printed on. And I can see at least one point that is legitimately debatable.

(3) backs the continued use of sanctions, in coordination with United States allies and partners, to fully isolate the Putin regime economically for its unprovoked aggression against Ukraine;

Many historians who have been certified as not evil believe that the Allies excessive punishment of Germany after WWI led directly to the rise of Naziism and Hitler. Meant to isolate Germany's government, it mainly hurt the German people and paved the way for someone like Hitler to seize power.

Perhaps, bob, they believe that the use of sanctions would eventually lead to worse consequences. Are they EVIL for having that opinion? What punishment, bob, do you think should be given them?

This is America, bob, and people are entitled to their opinions, especially in Congress. What is evil, bob, is for people like you to defame and demonize anyone who has an opinion that differs from yours. And what borders on psychotic is you trying to transfer that onto tlynn. Truly disgusting, bob.

You have to forgive him Flock. He is in the process of joining the Ukrainian International Legion to put his beliefs into action. Oh, wait never mind, he puts the bulk of his efforts into an obscure internet message board.

[silverscreenselect]

Many historians who have been certified as not evil believe that the Allies excessive punishment of Germany after WWI led directly to the rise of Naziism and Hitler. Meant to isolate Germany's government, it mainly hurt the German people and paved the way for someone like Hitler to seize power.

Perhaps, bob, they believe that the use of sanctions would eventually lead to worse consequences. Are they EVIL for having that opinion? What punishment, bob, do you think should be given them?

Well, Flock, as usual you are almost 100% wrong. It must take real effort on your part to compose these lengthy diatribes that are completely and utterly wrong on virtually every particular. You are right about sanctioning Germany after World War I, but there is a big difference between sanctioning a defeated enemy in peacetime and sanctioning a warring country to persuade it to cease doing things.

As for Matt Rosendale, I didn't waste time trying to figure out a possibly innocent motive for what he did. I went straight to the horse's mouth.

When you look at this resolution, it literally was giving the president a blank check and a green light to have unlimited spending on military and monetary investments in Ukraine at the exact same time that we have a southern border that is being controlled by the Mexican cartels.

Rosendale and Paul Gosar, who was one of the other two "no" votes on the resolution, sponsored a bill last month that would prohibit further military aid to Ukraine until the southern border wall is finished. They apparently feel that poor immigrants coming into the U.S. to get low-paying jobs is a bigger threat to world peace than Russian tanks killing civilians to help take over an independent country. By the way, here is the text of the House resolution. It starts with a bunch of "whereas"es and then goes on:

Resolved That the House of Representatives—

(1) demands an immediate cease-fire and the full withdrawal of Russian forces from Ukrainian territory;
(2) supports, unequivocally, Ukraine’s sovereignty and territorial integrity;
(3) backs the continued use of sanctions, in coordination with United States allies and partners, to fully isolate the Putin regime economically for its unprovoked aggression against Ukraine;
(4) urges the United States and its allies and partners to deliver additional and immediate defensive security assistance to help Ukraine address the armored, airborne, and other threats Ukraine is currently facing from Russian forces;
(5) commits to continuing to support resistance by the Ukrainian people as long as the Russian Federation continues to violate Ukraine’s sovereignty and territorial integrity;
(6) promises to continue to provide significant additional aid and humanitarian relief to Ukrainian refugees fleeing Russia’s aggression, commends European partners for their efforts to relieve suffering on the ground, and urges the Russian Federation alongside United States allies and partners to guarantee safe passage out of the country;
(7) reaffirms its strong support for the security of United States allies and ironclad commitment to Article 5 of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO);
(8) emphasizes that NATO’s relationship with Ukraine is a matter only for Ukraine and the 30 NATO allies;
(9) pledges to support working with Europe and international partners to bolster Europe’s energy security and reduce its dependence on Russian energy imports;
(10) underscores the importance of maintaining United States energy independence for the benefit of the American people and United States allies;
(11) reiterates that Crimea and the territories illegally controlled by the illegitimate Russian-controlled governments in Donetsk and Luhansk are sovereign Ukrainian territory;
(12) declares that the war in Ukraine, a democratic country, is the frontline of democracy and freedom versus authoritarianism represented by Putin’s Russia;
(13) supports the right of the Russian people to protest, including the current protests against Putin’s unprovoked war against Ukraine, and demands the immediate release of all those who have been unjustly detained in Russia for expressing their desire for peace;
(14) comprehends that strongmen, dictators, and authoritarians are watching the world’s response to Putin’s war against Ukraine and learning lessons for their own aggressive actions domestically and abroad, thereby making a strong and united response important to deter the expansion of territory by the use of military force beyond this crisis;
(15) states unambiguously that it will never recognize or support any illegitimate Russian-controlled leader or government installed through the use of force, and that only the people of Ukraine can choose their leadership through free and fair democratic elections without foreign interference, intervention, or coercion;
(16) commits to ensuring the illegitimate dictator of Belarus, Alexander Lukashenko, is held accountable for permitting the use of Belarusian territory for, and committing Belarusian forces to, Putin’s unprovoked renewed full-scale invasion against Ukraine; and
(17) stands steadfastly, staunchly, proudly, and fervently behind the Ukrainian people in their fight against the authoritarian Putin regime.

Nowhere in there is a "blank check" or "green light" for limited or unlimited monetary and certainly not military support. Both of those would require Congressional authorization. There are bills bending in Congress right now that would provide additional aid to Ukraine. So this is an attempt by Rosendale to grandstand and call attention to his pet border wall project. He's in good company though. In addition to Gosar and Thomas Massie, he's voting the same way as Belarus, Syria, and North Korea did in the UN.

[silverscreenselect]

You have to forgive him Flock. He is in the process of joining the Ukrainian International Legion to put his beliefs into action. Oh, wait never mind, he puts the bulk of his efforts into an obscure internet message board.

Spock, do you have any more of those spiffy Vladimir Putin recruitment videos you were crowing and gloating over a week ago?

[flockofseagulls104]

Once again. stalker, I assume you are trashing me in some fashion or another.
That post was addressed to bob, not you. Why do you feel it's your duty to respond to every post I make here? Just a rhetorical question, because I don't give a sh*t what your response is. I just ask it on the incredibly remote chance that it will spark you to do some introspection and realize how completely pathetic your stalking really is.

[silverscreenselect]

Why do you feel it's your duty to respond to every post I make here? Just a rhetorical question, because I don't give a sh*t what your response is. I just ask it on the incredibly remote chance that it will spark you to do some introspection and realize how completely pathetic your stalking really is.

Flock, when you post crap and nonsense, whether it's addressed to me, Bob, Weyoun, or anyone, you should be called out on factual misstatements and faulty logic, which show up in almost every one of your posts. Perhaps you should do some instrospection and realize how completely pathetic your sources of information and reasoning processes really are. But of course, you make it a point of saying that you don't really care about something you post at length about before you conveniently adopt the obligatory right-wing doctrine on the issue.

[tlynn78]

Why do you feel it's your duty to respond to every post I make here? Just a rhetorical question, because I don't give a sh*t what your response is. I just ask it on the incredibly remote chance that it will spark you to do some introspection and realize how completely pathetic your stalking really is.

Flock, when you post crap and nonsense, whether it's addressed to me, Bob, Weyoun, or anyone, you should be called out on factual misstatements and faulty logic, which show up in almost every one of your posts. Perhaps you should do some instrospection and realize how completely pathetic your sources of information and reasoning processes really are. But of course, you make it a point of saying that you don't really care about something you post at length about before you conveniently adopt the obligatory right-wing doctrine on the issue.

Oh, the irony.

[Bob78164]

You have to forgive him Flock. He is in the process of joining the Ukrainian International Legion to put his beliefs into action. Oh, wait never mind, he puts the bulk of his efforts into an obscure internet message board.

My explicitly stated position is that it's not worth it to American interests to inject American troops into this war, so I really don't see how you're connecting the dots here. And if you think what I do here is anything remotely close to the bulk of my efforts, then you just haven't been paying attention. Or do you think bills get written and introduced into City Council by themselves? --Bob

[Beebs52]

You have to forgive him Flock. He is in the process of joining the Ukrainian International Legion to put his beliefs into action. Oh, wait never mind, he puts the bulk of his efforts into an obscure internet message board.

My explicitly stated position is that it's not worth it to American interests to inject American troops into this war, so I really don't see how you're connecting the dots here. And if you think what I do here is anything remotely close to the bulk of my efforts, then you just haven't been paying attention. Or do you think bills get written and introduced into City Council by themselves? --Bob

Gosh golly! Yuh, I dint know city councils had international war powers. Course, what would I know after working for the local governmental entity for many years. I am so silly.
Pardon me for interjecting.

[flockofseagulls104]

You have to forgive him Flock. He is in the process of joining the Ukrainian International Legion to put his beliefs into action. Oh, wait never mind, he puts the bulk of his efforts into an obscure internet message board.

My explicitly stated position is that it's not worth it to American interests to inject American troops into this war, so I really don't see how you're connecting the dots here. And if you think what I do here is anything remotely close to the bulk of my efforts, then you just haven't been paying attention. Or do you think bills get written and introduced into City Council by themselves? --Bob

Gosh golly! Yuh, I dint know city councils had international war powers. Course, what would I know after working for the local governmental entity for many years. I am so silly.
Pardon me for interjecting.

Bob is very busy drafting Ukraine supporting non-binding resolutions for several towns in CA. There won't be any evil republicans voting against them because there are none.

[silverscreenselect]

Bob is very busy drafting Ukraine supporting non-binding resolutions for several towns in CA. There won't be any evil republicans voting against them because there are none.

It doesn't take long for Flock and the other right wingers to get past the stage of trying to refute any points Bob or I make and instead resort to increasingly silly and ineffective attempts at humor followed by patting each other on the back for being so clever.

[silverscreenselect]

Or do you think bills get written and introduced into City Council by themselves? --Bob

Bob, I'd be curious to know what sort of bills you've gotten introduced into the City Council. Is this Los Angeles or other municipalities?

And to head off a question, I haven't done that. I have given financial support to various Democratic candidates over the past few years, most recently to Jon Ossoff and Raphael Warnock in the Senate runoffs.

[tlynn78]

Bob is very busy drafting Ukraine supporting non-binding resolutions for several towns in CA. There won't be any evil republicans voting against them because there are none.

It doesn't take long for Flock and the other right wingers to get past the stage of trying to refute any points Bob or I make and instead resort to increasingly silly and ineffective attempts at humor followed by patting each other on the back for being so clever.

Still waiting for Bobbo to counter my refuting of his claim about me re: Rosendale. The humor is just to pass the time while I wait. Not to worry, I'm not holding my breath.

[Bob78164]

Or do you think bills get written and introduced into City Council by themselves? --Bob

Bob, I'd be curious to know what sort of bills you've gotten introduced into the City Council. Is this Los Angeles or other municipalities?

And to head off a question, I haven't done that. I have given financial support to various Democratic candidates over the past few years, most recently to Jon Ossoff and Raphael Warnock in the Senate runoffs.

This one. It took me about eight months of work to get to this point. I figure there's another 5-7 months to go before it becomes law. --Bob

[Bob Juch]

On the current conflict in Ukraine, Donald Trump suggested that the US should take their F22 planes and "put the Chinese flag on them and bomb the shit" out of Russia.

"And then we say, 'China did it, we didn't, China did it!' And then they start fighting with each other, and we sit back and watch."

He also called NATO a "paper tiger" and pondered, "at what point do we say we cannot take this war against humanity. We can't let it happen; we can't let it continue to happen."

On North Korean leader Kim Jong-un, Trump appeared to switch his admiration from the currently globally-derided Vladimir Putin of Russia and instead praised Jong-un.

"Seriously though, he's absolutely the leader of that country," Trump said of the North Korean leader, adding that his military advisors were "sitting at attention" when he talked and "cowered" when he spoke to them. Trump mentioned that one general "stood up so fast" when his leader came into the room, "I want my people to act like that," which got a few laughs in the room.

The real humdinger came via Trump's now-customary mocking of the global climate crisis, which is shooting fish in a barrel when it comes to addressing a room full of Republican party donors. On the rising sea levels, he said, "great, we have more seafront properties," and then joked about the world coming to an end in five years.

[silverscreenselect]

I know Flock won't read this because (a) it's posted by me and (b) it's from the Washington Post, but there's a lot of food for thought here. I've included a link to the full version, but it may be behind the paywall:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/media/20 ... 34e7bef8d9

Putin’s full-scale information war got a key assist from Donald Trump and right-wing media
Thanks to his skills at the influence game, Putin knew how to ‘soften up the enemy’ — and get a swath of the American public cheering for him.

[Former Presidential advisor and Russian expert Fiona] Hill described how Putin, as he reaches for domination, relies heavily on his skills at the influence-and-information game. “What happens in a Russian ‘all-of-society’ war, you soften up the enemy,” she told her interviewer, Maura Reynolds. Hill named some names: “You get the Tucker Carlsons and Donald Trumps doing your job for you.” And now, after a few years of their apologetic rhetoric on behalf of Russia, Putin “has got swaths of the Republican Party” and “masses of the U.S. public saying ‘Good on you, Vladimir Putin,’ or blaming NATO, or blaming the U.S.” for Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, she added.

In addition to the many times that Trump has praised Putin as strong and admirable, while failing to criticize his human rights offenses, our previous president helped the Russian cause in more specific ways. He reportedly argued to fellow world leaders in 2018 that Crimea — the Ukrainian peninsula that Russia invaded and annexed in 2014 — was Russian because, after all, people who live there speak Russian. Carlson, meanwhile, recently wondered on air why Putin is hated by “permanent Washington,” describing Ukraine as “not a democracy” but a “pure client state of the United States State Department.”

In more recent days, Carlson has changed his tune to oppose Putin — while managing to fault Democrats as not sending a clear message about the impending crisis. But, to a large extent, the propaganda mission had already been accomplished. In 2019, Carlson had even asked on the air, “Why shouldn’t I root for Russia, which by the way I am?” (He tried to walk that comment back after it went viral, saying he was only kidding.) Do these pro-Putin messages sink in? No doubt they do, here in the United States and in Russia itself.

Rep. Tom Malinowski (D-N.J.) said that in the run-up to the invasion, his office heard complaints from constituents who watch Carlson and “are upset that we’re not siding with Russia in its threats to invade Ukraine, and who want me to support Russia’s ‘reasonable’ positions.” That Russian state TV has repeatedly played clips of Carlson’s rants, complete with Russian subtitles, is a tribute to just how well-received his rhetoric has been by Putin and his allies.

Laura Ingraham’s show was a big help late last month as she trashed a speech by Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky as “really pathetic” and brought Trump on as a guest. The former president’s analysis: His strongman idol would merely have taken over two regions in eastern Ukraine but went further because “he sees the weakness and the incompetence and the stupidity” of the Biden administration.

The circularity and symbiosis of right-wing media and Russia’s own talking points can be quite remarkable. On Tuesday, former Trump-era assistant treasury secretary Monica Crowley told Fox News’s Jesse Watters that economic sanctions were so severe that “Russia is now being canceled.” Within days, we heard about Russian Foreign Intelligence Director Sergei Naryshkin using the same cancel-culture rhetoric. “The West isn’t simply trying to close off Russia behind a new iron curtain. This is about an attempt to ruin our government — to ‘cancel’ it, as they now say in ‘tolerant’ liberal-fascist circles,” Naryshkin said.

As he tries to deal with ugly truth — images leaking out of Ukraine showing the destruction of civilian neighborhoods — Putin is relying on uglier lies, trying to insist that his military is doing everything it can to avoid civilian deaths. He severely limits truthful information inside Russia and uses politically friendly Americans — and their media magnifiers — to plant propaganda and lead cheers in the West. In the age of real-time video and the relentless presence of social media, controlling the message has became more challenging for Putin. As the estimable Fiona Hill argues, he’s trying to do nothing less than take down the world order and reconstitute the Russian-speaking world as one entity. That’s an ambitious plan. But at least his trusty American apologists laid some groundwork for him.

[flockofseagulls104]

Bob is very busy drafting Ukraine supporting non-binding resolutions for several towns in CA. There won't be any evil republicans voting against them because there are none.

It doesn't take long for Flock and the other right wingers to get past the stage of trying to refute any points Bob or I make and instead resort to increasingly silly and ineffective attempts at humor followed by patting each other on the back for being so clever.

Still waiting for Bobbo to counter my refuting of his claim about me re: Rosendale. The humor is just to pass the time while I wait. Not to worry, I'm not holding my breath.

Another one of the stalker's kneejerk trolls at me revealed to me.
Stalker, you were outed as nothing but a bigoted TDS sufferer in the thread where you passed my test. You really need to re-evaluate.

I responded to bob's irrational post earlier, but I know you don't read or comprehend anything before you respond. So I will repost my reponse to bob here. The reason we 'resort' to humor is because he (and you) never responds to anything that he doesn't have an answer for. He just goes on the attack on a different subject or just arrogantly ignores it and goes right on. (Just like you!) It's like talking to a wall. But a wall that believes it knows everything about everything.

Bob, you have some nerve posting something like this when you've repeatedly stated your support for one-party rule of your state, if not the entire country. Is it possible for you to accept that someone might not agree with you and yet not be an EVIL person?

I read through the house's NON-BINDING resolution, which means less than the paper it's printed on. And I can see at least one point that is legitimately debatable.

(3) backs the continued use of sanctions, in coordination with United States allies and partners, to fully isolate the Putin regime economically for its unprovoked aggression against Ukraine;

Many historians who have been certified as not evil believe that the Allies excessive punishment of Germany after WWI led directly to the rise of Naziism and Hitler. Meant to isolate Germany's government, it mainly hurt the German people and paved the way for someone like Hitler to seize power.

Perhaps, bob, they believe that the use of sanctions would eventually lead to worse consequences. Are they EVIL for having that opinion? What punishment, bob, do you think should be given them?

This is America, bob, and people are entitled to their opinions, especially in Congress. What is evil, bob, is for people like you to defame and demonize anyone who has an opinion that differs from yours. And what borders on psychotic is you trying to transfer that onto tlynn. Truly disgusting, bob.

He has not said a word about this. He just changed the subject to his noble efforts writing bills for legislatures completely controlled by his comrades.
Of course, you might have said something about it, but I'm sure it was some personal swipe at me. You are part of the mob that kicks in whenever there's a valid point made against your narrative. Sort of like how they treat conservative speakers at university campuses.

[Bob78164]

It doesn't take long for Flock and the other right wingers to get past the stage of trying to refute any points Bob or I make and instead resort to increasingly silly and ineffective attempts at humor followed by patting each other on the back for being so clever.

Still waiting for Bobbo to counter my refuting of his claim about me re: Rosendale. The humor is just to pass the time while I wait. Not to worry, I'm not holding my breath.

Another one of the stalker's kneejerk trolls at me revealed to me.
Stalker, you were outed as nothing but a bigoted TDS sufferer in the thread where you passed my test. You really need to re-evaluate.

I responded to bob's irrational post earlier, but I know you don't read or comprehend anything before you respond. So I will repost my reponse to bob here. The reason we 'resort' to humor is because he (and you) never responds to anything that he doesn't have an answer for. He just goes on the attack on a different subject or just arrogantly ignores it and goes right on. (Just like you!) It's like talking to a wall. But a wall that believes it knows everything about everything.

Bob, you have some nerve posting something like this when you've repeatedly stated your support for one-party rule of your state, if not the entire country. Is it possible for you to accept that someone might not agree with you and yet not be an EVIL person?

I read through the house's NON-BINDING resolution, which means less than the paper it's printed on. And I can see at least one point that is legitimately debatable.

(3) backs the continued use of sanctions, in coordination with United States allies and partners, to fully isolate the Putin regime economically for its unprovoked aggression against Ukraine;

Many historians who have been certified as not evil believe that the Allies excessive punishment of Germany after WWI led directly to the rise of Naziism and Hitler. Meant to isolate Germany's government, it mainly hurt the German people and paved the way for someone like Hitler to seize power.

Perhaps, bob, they believe that the use of sanctions would eventually lead to worse consequences. Are they EVIL for having that opinion? What punishment, bob, do you think should be given them?

This is America, bob, and people are entitled to their opinions, especially in Congress. What is evil, bob, is for people like you to defame and demonize anyone who has an opinion that differs from yours. And what borders on psychotic is you trying to transfer that onto tlynn. Truly disgusting, bob.

He has not said a word about this. He just changed the subject to his noble efforts writing bills for legislatures completely controlled by his comrades.
Of course, you might have said something about it, but I'm sure it was some personal swipe at me. You are part of the mob that kicks in whenever there's a valid point made against your narrative. Sort of like how they treat conservative speakers at university campuses.

Thinking that punitive sanctions DURING a war are in any way equivalent to punitive sanctions AFTER the war is utter historical illiteracy, which sss already pointed out in this thread. You can be forgiven for that ignorance because you're not in the House of Representatives. If that was Rosendale's excuse, it's his job to know better. --Bob