Totally misread your statement. Yes. He is crazy. Sorry.Beebs52 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 8:36 pmYou mean IS somewhat unhinged. Right? Like nutso?wbtravis007 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 8:29 pmSorry Saucey, but no go girl here from me.
Risking starting WW3 here would be insane.
I’m not totally comfortable with the assumption that Putin isn’t somewhat unhinged right now.
I think the Biden Administration
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Well, then
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Also should have added that the chances of that are even more remote than Mexico trying to reclaim the Texas territory.wbtravis007 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 8:29 pmSorry Saucey, but no go girl here from me.
Risking starting WW3 here would be insane.
I’m not totally comfortable with the assumption that Putin isn’t somewhat unhinged right now.
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Seriously. My bad.a1mamacat wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 8:42 pmDouble negative usage Beebs. You lost yer grammar?Beebs52 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 8:36 pmYou mean IS somewhat unhinged. Right? Like nutso?wbtravis007 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 25, 2022 8:29 pm
Sorry Saucey, but no go girl here from me.
Risking starting WW3 here would be insane.
I’m not totally comfortable with the assumption that Putin isn’t somewhat unhinged right now.
Well, then
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Vladimir Putin wrote:President Biden's an experienced statesman. He is very different from President Trump.
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be.
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Notice that Ukrainian patriotss are defending their capital instead of attacking it.
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They did just the opposite in 2014 (Revolution of Dignity).
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Are you praising Putin?
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Lest we forget, here's another example of Donald Trump's brilliant use of sarcasm. I'll give Flock an opportunity to explain it away:
Donald Trump 2/24/22 (one day after the invasion began) wrote:Putin is smart. He's taken over a country for $2 worth of sanctions. I'd say that's pretty smart. It is a vast, vast location, a piece of land with lot of people and just walking right in. This would never have happened - never in a million years. I know him very well,
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I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be.
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This analysis seems on the mark to me.
(Footnotes omitted). --BobJonathan V. Last wrote:In the weeks leading up to the Russian invasion, Joe Biden used his administration to loudly and transparently demonstrate that Putin’s irredentist claims were bunk and that the looming invasion was a premeditated act of aggression.
He simultaneously worked — quietly — with NATO and the EU to achieve a larger consensus than there has been on any military matter before the alliance since . . . well, let’s call it a generation.
Biden did not draw lines in the sand. He did not personalize the conflict. He did not turn himself into the star of the show. He did not allow anyone, anywhere, to believe that this was about America.
Since the invasion, Biden has been a full partner with our European allies. He has not pushed them into decisions. He recognized that having a united front was more important than any particular aspect of the response. And after only four days Europe came to the conclusion — on its own — that it would do everything the American foreign policy establishment had wanted. Biden understood that these countries needed to come to the decision to fight back on their own, and not be publicly cajoled into it.
Biden also understood that the EU and NATO are actually very powerful allies and that when they work in concert with the United States, we represent a significant geopolitical force.
At home, by not being publicly domineering, Biden has made it much harder for Republicans to polarize public opinion over Ukraine. Because Joe Biden has not allowed Ukraine to become an issue about Joe Biden. This should make the continued prosecution of Russia more tenable in the short and medium term.
Biden has done all of this — a hawk’s dream response — without escalating the conflict or pushing the West closer to kinetic warfare with Russia.
The West is stronger because of the actions of the Biden administration and Russia is weaker because of them.
The last month has represented America’s best showing in foreign policy in a generation, and this with a president playing a weak hand in a crisis forced on the country.
It would be nice if Biden got some credit for this from the public. He’s only making it look easy.
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My thoughts, exactly.Bob78164 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 2:04 pmThis analysis seems on the mark to me.
(Footnotes omitted). --BobJonathan V. Last wrote:In the weeks leading up to the Russian invasion, Joe Biden used his administration to loudly and transparently demonstrate that Putin’s irredentist claims were bunk and that the looming invasion was a premeditated act of aggression.
He simultaneously worked — quietly — with NATO and the EU to achieve a larger consensus than there has been on any military matter before the alliance since . . . well, let’s call it a generation.
Biden did not draw lines in the sand. He did not personalize the conflict. He did not turn himself into the star of the show. He did not allow anyone, anywhere, to believe that this was about America.
Since the invasion, Biden has been a full partner with our European allies. He has not pushed them into decisions. He recognized that having a united front was more important than any particular aspect of the response. And after only four days Europe came to the conclusion — on its own — that it would do everything the American foreign policy establishment had wanted. Biden understood that these countries needed to come to the decision to fight back on their own, and not be publicly cajoled into it.
Biden also understood that the EU and NATO are actually very powerful allies and that when they work in concert with the United States, we represent a significant geopolitical force.
At home, by not being publicly domineering, Biden has made it much harder for Republicans to polarize public opinion over Ukraine. Because Joe Biden has not allowed Ukraine to become an issue about Joe Biden. This should make the continued prosecution of Russia more tenable in the short and medium term.
Biden has done all of this — a hawk’s dream response — without escalating the conflict or pushing the West closer to kinetic warfare with Russia.
The West is stronger because of the actions of the Biden administration and Russia is weaker because of them.
The last month has represented America’s best showing in foreign policy in a generation, and this with a president playing a weak hand in a crisis forced on the country.
It would be nice if Biden got some credit for this from the public. He’s only making it look easy.
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It should be obvious by now that this is Ron DeSantis's fault
Suitguy is not bitter.
feels he represents the many educated and rational onlookers who believe that the hysterical denouncement of lay scepticism is both unwarranted and counter-productive
The problem, then, is that such calls do not address an opposition audience so much as they signal virtue. They talk past those who need convincing. They ignore actual facts and counterargument. And they are irreparably smug.
feels he represents the many educated and rational onlookers who believe that the hysterical denouncement of lay scepticism is both unwarranted and counter-productive
The problem, then, is that such calls do not address an opposition audience so much as they signal virtue. They talk past those who need convincing. They ignore actual facts and counterargument. And they are irreparably smug.
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Sshhhh, if that's the case, they miss out on the little tingle they get when they say, "Trump."themanintheseersuckersuit wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 2:37 pmIt should be obvious by now that this is Ron DeSantis's fault
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I would have preferred leadership being successful as a deterrent. We had that for 4 years. But that’s just me.wbtravis007 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 2:15 pmMy thoughts, exactly.Bob78164 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 2:04 pmThis analysis seems on the mark to me.
(Footnotes omitted). --BobJonathan V. Last wrote:In the weeks leading up to the Russian invasion, Joe Biden used his administration to loudly and transparently demonstrate that Putin’s irredentist claims were bunk and that the looming invasion was a premeditated act of aggression.
He simultaneously worked — quietly — with NATO and the EU to achieve a larger consensus than there has been on any military matter before the alliance since . . . well, let’s call it a generation.
Biden did not draw lines in the sand. He did not personalize the conflict. He did not turn himself into the star of the show. He did not allow anyone, anywhere, to believe that this was about America.
Since the invasion, Biden has been a full partner with our European allies. He has not pushed them into decisions. He recognized that having a united front was more important than any particular aspect of the response. And after only four days Europe came to the conclusion — on its own — that it would do everything the American foreign policy establishment had wanted. Biden understood that these countries needed to come to the decision to fight back on their own, and not be publicly cajoled into it.
Biden also understood that the EU and NATO are actually very powerful allies and that when they work in concert with the United States, we represent a significant geopolitical force.
At home, by not being publicly domineering, Biden has made it much harder for Republicans to polarize public opinion over Ukraine. Because Joe Biden has not allowed Ukraine to become an issue about Joe Biden. This should make the continued prosecution of Russia more tenable in the short and medium term.
Biden has done all of this — a hawk’s dream response — without escalating the conflict or pushing the West closer to kinetic warfare with Russia.
The West is stronger because of the actions of the Biden administration and Russia is weaker because of them.
The last month has represented America’s best showing in foreign policy in a generation, and this with a president playing a weak hand in a crisis forced on the country.
It would be nice if Biden got some credit for this from the public. He’s only making it look easy.
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No, it’s not just you. There are a lot of others who are seemingly otherwise intelligent who are kind of crazy when it comes to him. You know what they say about love being blind, and what not. And Hilz and stuff.BackInTex wrote: ↑Tue Mar 01, 2022 4:27 amI would have preferred leadership being successful as a deterrent. We had that for 4 years. But that’s just me.wbtravis007 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 2:15 pmMy thoughts, exactly.Bob78164 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 28, 2022 2:04 pmThis analysis seems on the mark to me.
(Footnotes omitted). --Bob
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It's funny how those who are most enamored of Trump's ability to deter Putin are the least able to cite anything he did to actually deter the Russian. Unless you believe that Putin was afraid of losing the non-stop stream of fawning admiration that came from Trump for four years. Or slowing down arms shipments to Ukraine. Or trying to pressure Ukraine into launching another investigation into Hunter Biden.
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Suitguy is not bitter.
feels he represents the many educated and rational onlookers who believe that the hysterical denouncement of lay scepticism is both unwarranted and counter-productive
The problem, then, is that such calls do not address an opposition audience so much as they signal virtue. They talk past those who need convincing. They ignore actual facts and counterargument. And they are irreparably smug.
feels he represents the many educated and rational onlookers who believe that the hysterical denouncement of lay scepticism is both unwarranted and counter-productive
The problem, then, is that such calls do not address an opposition audience so much as they signal virtue. They talk past those who need convincing. They ignore actual facts and counterargument. And they are irreparably smug.
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Suitguy is not bitter.
feels he represents the many educated and rational onlookers who believe that the hysterical denouncement of lay scepticism is both unwarranted and counter-productive
The problem, then, is that such calls do not address an opposition audience so much as they signal virtue. They talk past those who need convincing. They ignore actual facts and counterargument. And they are irreparably smug.
feels he represents the many educated and rational onlookers who believe that the hysterical denouncement of lay scepticism is both unwarranted and counter-productive
The problem, then, is that such calls do not address an opposition audience so much as they signal virtue. They talk past those who need convincing. They ignore actual facts and counterargument. And they are irreparably smug.
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Judging by the results in Ukraine so far, that last statement seems very accurate.John Bolton 2/28/22 wrote:In almost every case, the sanctions were imposed with Trump complaining about it, saying we were too hard. The fact is he barely knew where Ukraine was. He once asked John Kelly, his second chief of staff, if Finland were a part of Russia. It's just not accurate to say that Trump's behavior somehow deterred the Russians. I think the evidence is that Russia didn't feel that their military was ready.
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Comments Putin made today to his Security Council (similar to our Cabinet). The more this crisis goes on, the more Putin resembles his good buddy Donald Trump. Both are proving completely divorced from reality. But unfortunately both are still very dangerous.Vladimir Putin 3/3/22 wrote:The special military operation in Ukraine is going according to plan, in strict accordance with the schedule. All tasks are being successfully being carried out.
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I see why TFG admires him.silverscreenselect wrote: ↑Thu Mar 03, 2022 3:17 pmComments Putin made today to his Security Council (similar to our Cabinet). The more this crisis goes on, the more Putin resembles his good buddy Donald Trump. Both are proving completely divorced from reality. But unfortunately both are still very dangerous.Vladimir Putin 3/3/22 wrote:The special military operation in Ukraine is going according to plan, in strict accordance with the schedule. All tasks are being successfully being carried out.
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I forget. Trump isn't president, so your point in real time, not past time, is exactly what? Don't forget your audience. Cause you haven't been paying attention.Bob Juch wrote: ↑Thu Mar 03, 2022 3:29 pmI see why TFG admires him.silverscreenselect wrote: ↑Thu Mar 03, 2022 3:17 pmComments Putin made today to his Security Council (similar to our Cabinet). The more this crisis goes on, the more Putin resembles his good buddy Donald Trump. Both are proving completely divorced from reality. But unfortunately both are still very dangerous.Vladimir Putin 3/3/22 wrote:The special military operation in Ukraine is going according to plan, in strict accordance with the schedule. All tasks are being successfully being carried out.
Well, then
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He could be President again. He could also rile up his base to do a lot of ugly things without being President. Napoleon came back from Elba.
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Oh please.silverscreenselect wrote: ↑Thu Mar 03, 2022 4:12 pmHe could be President again. He could also rile up his base to do a lot of ugly things without being President. Napoleon came back from Elba.
Well, then
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Are you really a lawyer? Your line of questioning is stupid in so many ways:
1) If I'm paying more due to higher inflation, I'd rather it be for stopping Putin than for enriching him.
2) Yes, I am personally willing to bear that price. Is that a penny a gallon or $10 a gallon more? You didn't quantify. Dumb question!
3) Do you think that Spock and I will automatically have the same responses to everything? We may have different experiences, something you, apparently, failed to consider.
4) Do you think Spock has a grandfather who was killed by invading Russian paratroopers?
5) Do you think Spock's family had to flee their country with little more than the clothes on their backs in order to avoid political persecution?
6) Do you think Spock's mother lost her father, her home and her homeland in a 1-month span at the age of 16?
7) Do you think Spock's ancestral homeland is very likely to be the next target if Putin is not stopped in Ukraine?
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