Well, Maybe, Mr. Jewish Ginger Resister
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Well, Maybe, Mr. Jewish Ginger Resister
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Maybe, Mr. "Jewish Ginger Resister", if a few more of the Eastern European Jewry, circa 1932, had done things that make you uncomfortable there might not have been 5.2* million dead Jews under Nazism.
*I know many use the number 6 million, but the best analysis I have seen (Timothy Snyder's Bloodlands) uses the number 5.2 Million.
Hs Twitter handle also begs the question-he obviously is "Uncomfortable" with armed resistance-so if the "Shit Hits the Fan"-how much good will his brand of "Resistance" be?
I guess he can talk big on Twitter.
https://twitter.com/JewishResister/stat ... 7644763139
Maybe, Mr. "Jewish Ginger Resister", if a few more of the Eastern European Jewry, circa 1932, had done things that make you uncomfortable there might not have been 5.2* million dead Jews under Nazism.
*I know many use the number 6 million, but the best analysis I have seen (Timothy Snyder's Bloodlands) uses the number 5.2 Million.
Hs Twitter handle also begs the question-he obviously is "Uncomfortable" with armed resistance-so if the "Shit Hits the Fan"-how much good will his brand of "Resistance" be?
I guess he can talk big on Twitter.
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Re: Well, Maybe, Mr. Jewish Ginger Resister
As Solzhenitsyn said (of the Gulag)
>>>>"“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?... The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If...if...We didn't love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation.... We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.”<<<<
But, I am sure such thoughts would make Mr. Jewish Ginger Resister "Uncomfortable."
>>>>"“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?... The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If...if...We didn't love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation.... We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.”<<<<
But, I am sure such thoughts would make Mr. Jewish Ginger Resister "Uncomfortable."
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Re: Well, Maybe, Mr. Jewish Ginger Resister
"Live Free or Die " is not a universal sentiment.
..what country can preserve it’s liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? let them take arms.
~~ Thomas Jefferson
War is where the government tells you who the bad guy is.
Revolution is when you decide that for yourself.
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~~ Thomas Jefferson
War is where the government tells you who the bad guy is.
Revolution is when you decide that for yourself.
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Re: Well, Maybe, Mr. Jewish Ginger Resister
Spock wrote: ↑Thu Feb 17, 2022 9:25 amhttps://twitter.com/JewishResister/stat ... 5244402688
https://twitter.com/JewishResister/stat ... 7644763139
Maybe, Mr. "Jewish Ginger Resister", if a few more of the Eastern European Jewry, circa 1932, had done things that make you uncomfortable there might not have been 5.2* million dead Jews under Nazism.
*I know many use the number 6 million, but the best analysis I have seen (Timothy Snyder's Bloodlands) uses the number 5.2 Million.
Hs Twitter handle also begs the question-he obviously is "Uncomfortable" with armed resistance-so if the "Shit Hits the Fan"-how much good will his brand of "Resistance" be?
I guess he can talk big on Twitter.
Oh Lord! The horror of kids learning responsible gun handling!! If only I had some pearls.
The rest of that Twitter stream is hysterical in its levels of stupidity.
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Re: Well, Maybe, Mr. Jewish Ginger Resister
Is there any reason to go into this other than to annoy people? The six million figure came from testimony at the Nuremberg trials and later the trial of Eichmann. Other historians have reached similar results, some lower and some higher.
I've read similar comments about how "if only the Jews were armed" as an excuse for right wing militia whose intended targets generally include Jews, along with various people with dark skins, for years. The vast majority of those killed in the concentration camps came from other occupied countries (including many Jews who fled Germany to adjacent countries). So to suggest that Jews or anyone in Poland, Austria, Holland, Czechoslovakia, France and all the other occupied countries "done things" circa 1932 is ludicrous. One figure I've heard is that 165,000 German Jews died in the Holocaust, as did nearly three million Polish Jews and over one million Russian Jews. Those other countries had modern armies that couldn't ward off the Nazi invasion. And for the record, Jews did join resistance movements in nearly every occupied country, so they were "doing things."
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Re: Well, Maybe, Mr. Jewish Ginger Resister
Spock, before you comment on Jewish resistance, please reread this post:
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=50009&p=498473
Jews resisted the Nazis in many ways: armed combat (like my cousin), hiding and escaping (and helping others to do so), staying alive in the concentration camps, and in the worst case dying with dignity. In the face of a genocidal tyrant, all of these are heroic. We have no right to judge which is the most appropriate.
Your post was much more painful than Whoopi Goldberg's ignorant comment, since it was made by someone with deep knowledge of history and a friend. Please, David, don't use the Shoah to make a political point.
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=50009&p=498473
Jews resisted the Nazis in many ways: armed combat (like my cousin), hiding and escaping (and helping others to do so), staying alive in the concentration camps, and in the worst case dying with dignity. In the face of a genocidal tyrant, all of these are heroic. We have no right to judge which is the most appropriate.
Your post was much more painful than Whoopi Goldberg's ignorant comment, since it was made by someone with deep knowledge of history and a friend. Please, David, don't use the Shoah to make a political point.
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Re: Well, Maybe, Mr. Jewish Ginger Resister
I’m sorry. Who do these kids in Wyoming need to snipe?
If we’re talking about giving them a skill that will help them down the road, like math or sewing, sure. This would help you if you joined the military. We need soldiers to defend the country.
But my suspicion is that this is anti government nuttery.
Spock implicitly endorses this, suggesting that this is a tool needed to prevent another holocaust.
FYI. No one wants to take your land. No one wants to take all of your money. It’s Wyoming. It’s crazy cold there during the winter. Great to visit, but no one’s rushing to move there, unless it’s to Jackson, and that’s outside the price point of most of the nutters.
If we’re talking about giving them a skill that will help them down the road, like math or sewing, sure. This would help you if you joined the military. We need soldiers to defend the country.
But my suspicion is that this is anti government nuttery.
Spock implicitly endorses this, suggesting that this is a tool needed to prevent another holocaust.
FYI. No one wants to take your land. No one wants to take all of your money. It’s Wyoming. It’s crazy cold there during the winter. Great to visit, but no one’s rushing to move there, unless it’s to Jackson, and that’s outside the price point of most of the nutters.
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Re: Well, Maybe, Mr. Jewish Ginger Resister
Snipers and nutters do not use air rifles, doc!Weyoun wrote: ↑Thu Feb 17, 2022 1:22 pmI’m sorry. Who do these kids in Wyoming need to snipe?
If we’re talking about giving them a skill that will help them down the road, like math or sewing, sure. This would help you if you joined the military. We need soldiers to defend the country.
But my suspicion is that this is anti government nuttery.
Spock implicitly endorses this, suggesting that this is a tool needed to prevent another holocaust.
FYI. No one wants to take your land. No one wants to take all of your money. It’s Wyoming. It’s crazy cold there during the winter. Great to visit, but no one’s rushing to move there, unless it’s to Jackson, and that’s outside the price point of most of the nutters.
Kids learning how to hunt do, though.
A child of five would understand this. Send someone to fetch a child of five.
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Re: Well, Maybe, Mr. Jewish Ginger Resister
.Estonut wrote: ↑Thu Feb 17, 2022 5:30 pmSnipers and nutters do not use air rifles, doc!Weyoun wrote: ↑Thu Feb 17, 2022 1:22 pmI’m sorry. Who do these kids in Wyoming need to snipe?
If we’re talking about giving them a skill that will help them down the road, like math or sewing, sure. This would help you if you joined the military. We need soldiers to defend the country.
But my suspicion is that this is anti government nuttery.
Spock implicitly endorses this, suggesting that this is a tool needed to prevent another holocaust.
FYI. No one wants to take your land. No one wants to take all of your money. It’s Wyoming. It’s crazy cold there during the winter. Great to visit, but no one’s rushing to move there, unless it’s to Jackson, and that’s outside the price point of most of the nutters.
Kids learning how to hunt do, though.
There you go now with those pesky facts.
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Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities. -Voltaire
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Re: Well, Maybe, Mr. Jewish Ginger Resister
The recent biography of Robert Smalls is titled Be Free or Die. Smalls is the slave who escaped Charleston Harbor with his family by commandeering a steamship loaded with Confederate cannons and turning the ship and the cannons over to the US Navy. He is eventually became a member of the US Congress. The biography is very good.
Suitguy is not bitter.
feels he represents the many educated and rational onlookers who believe that the hysterical denouncement of lay scepticism is both unwarranted and counter-productive
The problem, then, is that such calls do not address an opposition audience so much as they signal virtue. They talk past those who need convincing. They ignore actual facts and counterargument. And they are irreparably smug.
feels he represents the many educated and rational onlookers who believe that the hysterical denouncement of lay scepticism is both unwarranted and counter-productive
The problem, then, is that such calls do not address an opposition audience so much as they signal virtue. They talk past those who need convincing. They ignore actual facts and counterargument. And they are irreparably smug.