Well, the Trucker Protests Show Us One Thing Anyway
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Re: Well, the Trucker Protests Show Us One Thing Anyway
How much economic damage have the COVID shutdowns caused?
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feels he represents the many educated and rational onlookers who believe that the hysterical denouncement of lay scepticism is both unwarranted and counter-productive
The problem, then, is that such calls do not address an opposition audience so much as they signal virtue. They talk past those who need convincing. They ignore actual facts and counterargument. And they are irreparably smug.
feels he represents the many educated and rational onlookers who believe that the hysterical denouncement of lay scepticism is both unwarranted and counter-productive
The problem, then, is that such calls do not address an opposition audience so much as they signal virtue. They talk past those who need convincing. They ignore actual facts and counterargument. And they are irreparably smug.
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Re: Well, the Trucker Protests Show Us One Thing Anyway
I bet it has a "b"themanintheseersuckersuit wrote: ↑Tue Feb 15, 2022 1:37 pmHow much economic damage have the COVID shutdowns caused?
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Re: Well, the Trucker Protests Show Us One Thing Anyway
How much economic activity was lost because people don't feel safe going out among those determined to remain unvaccinated?themanintheseersuckersuit wrote: ↑Tue Feb 15, 2022 1:37 pmHow much economic damage have the COVID shutdowns caused?
You may have missed this, but the economy is actually doing pretty well right now. Job creation is way up. So are wages. Yes, inflation is high, but we could ease the sting for the people suffering from inflation if Republicans would get on board with restoring the federal payments we were making to parents until the end of the year. Payments, by the way, that every single Republican in Congress voted against. --Bob
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Re: Well, the Trucker Protests Show Us One Thing Anyway
Anyone killed? Again, not addressing the point. Just deflecting.Bob78164 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 15, 2022 1:30 pmI suspect you don't realize that the blockage of the Ambassador Bridge and related protests has already caused a couple of billion (with a "b") dollars in economic damage. That's a REALLY important link between our countries. --Bobflockofseagulls104 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 15, 2022 1:25 pmBob, I would suggest you do some actual research on real life. It would maybe help your credibility a bit.
Maybe start by googling BLM Protest damage, BLM Antifa damage, stuff like that. Maybe go to 'images' if you don't want to read about it, which you probably won't. I know, all these people are right wing fanatics, and they made it up.
I like your use of the phrase 'mostly peaceful'. It says a lot.
https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/o ... -peaceful/
But I know I'm pissing in the wind. I'm not going to lift a finger to convince you of anything. Waste of time. You don't want to educate yourself and stay in your comfort zone, knock yourself out.
The Prime Minister's response? Same as yours. They are brain dead racists. Let's confiscate their money and create emergency powers to break them. We don't need to re-examine our policies. Screw them. We are much smarter, tolerant and virtuous than them. We know what's best.
Which is exactly what they are protesting taken to a higher level.
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Let's ignore the societal, cultural and political ramifications.Bob78164 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 15, 2022 1:47 pmHow much economic activity was lost because people don't feel safe going out among those determined to remain unvaccinated?themanintheseersuckersuit wrote: ↑Tue Feb 15, 2022 1:37 pmHow much economic damage have the COVID shutdowns caused?
You may have missed this, but the economy is actually doing pretty well right now. Job creation is way up. So are wages. Yes, inflation is high, but we could ease the sting for the people suffering from inflation if Republicans would get on board with restoring the federal payments we were making to parents until the end of the year. Payments, by the way, that every single Republican in Congress voted against. --Bob
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Re: Well, the Trucker Protests Show Us One Thing Anyway
Well, it was mainly the downtown core, so. Are there restaurants and nightlife there?
Well, then
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I think it’s a Ttlynn78 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 15, 2022 1:44 pmI bet it has a "b"themanintheseersuckersuit wrote: ↑Tue Feb 15, 2022 1:37 pmHow much economic damage have the COVID shutdowns caused?
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feels he represents the many educated and rational onlookers who believe that the hysterical denouncement of lay scepticism is both unwarranted and counter-productive
The problem, then, is that such calls do not address an opposition audience so much as they signal virtue. They talk past those who need convincing. They ignore actual facts and counterargument. And they are irreparably smug.
feels he represents the many educated and rational onlookers who believe that the hysterical denouncement of lay scepticism is both unwarranted and counter-productive
The problem, then, is that such calls do not address an opposition audience so much as they signal virtue. They talk past those who need convincing. They ignore actual facts and counterargument. And they are irreparably smug.
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Most likely.themanintheseersuckersuit wrote: ↑Tue Feb 15, 2022 1:52 pmI think it’s a Ttlynn78 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 15, 2022 1:44 pmI bet it has a "b"themanintheseersuckersuit wrote: ↑Tue Feb 15, 2022 1:37 pmHow much economic damage have the COVID shutdowns caused?
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The fact that I never said "[t]hey are brain dead racists" (or anything like that) leaves me more than a little skeptical that you have your facts right about what Prime Minister Trudeau said. I don't think the protestors are brain-dead racists. I think they're selfish pricks.flockofseagulls104 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 15, 2022 1:49 pmThe Prime Minister's response? Same as yours. They are brain dead racists. Let's confiscate their money and create emergency powers to break them. We don't need to re-examine our policies. Screw them. We are much smarter, tolerant and virtuous than them. We know what's best.
Which is exactly what they are protesting taken to a higher level.
In any event, what the Canadian protests are doing is the classic definition of bullying. The protestors are in a decided minority in their views so they can't prevail via the democratic process. Knowing this, they're attempting to cause pain in order to bully their opponents into submission. I'm glad it doesn't appear to be working. --Bob
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You pesky fact-thrower, you.
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Hope you're not working right now. Cooler heads and all.Weyoun wrote: ↑Tue Feb 15, 2022 1:19 pmBTW the REALITY of the situation is that the VACCINE IS SAFE and BIDEN HAD WAY MORE VOTES.
So while BLM was reckless and counterproductive to do what they did, they did have the REALITY that black guys are getting shot by cops way too much to say it’s simple bad luck.
So that’s one thing going for them those truckers should look into.
Honk!
Well, then
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Or protesting being bullied because the bullies have all the power. And, as you can see, the real bullies don't want to even think about giving up one inch of their power. They'll use even power more to prevent that. And once they get it, they will never give it up. That's how it has always worked throughout history, as our founding fathers knew well.Bob78164 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 15, 2022 1:54 pmThe fact that I never said "[t]hey are brain dead racists" (or anything like that) leaves me more than a little skeptical that you have your facts right about what Prime Minister Trudeau said. I don't think the protestors are brain-dead racists. I think they're selfish pricks.flockofseagulls104 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 15, 2022 1:49 pmThe Prime Minister's response? Same as yours. They are brain dead racists. Let's confiscate their money and create emergency powers to break them. We don't need to re-examine our policies. Screw them. We are much smarter, tolerant and virtuous than them. We know what's best.
Which is exactly what they are protesting taken to a higher level.
In any event, what the Canadian protests are doing is the classic definition of bullying. The protestors are in a decided minority in their views so they can't prevail via the democratic process. Knowing this, they're attempting to cause pain in order to bully their opponents into submission. I'm glad it doesn't appear to be working. --Bob
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Very little by 3/28/20 73-year-old diabetic Tom Hanks and his wife Rita had returned to the USA having recovered from C-19 and my nieces were 2 weeks past their return from the last Spring Break Caribbean Cruise with no one reporting illness. The Navy hospital ship Comfort leftBob78164 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 15, 2022 1:47 pmHow much economic activity was lost because people don't feel safe going out among those determined to remain unvaccinated?themanintheseersuckersuit wrote: ↑Tue Feb 15, 2022 1:37 pmHow much economic damage have the COVID shutdowns caused?
You may have missed this, but the economy is actually doing pretty well right now. Job creation is way up. So are wages. Yes, inflation is high, but we could ease the sting for the people suffering from inflation if Republicans would get on board with restoring the federal payments we were making to parents until the end of the year. Payments, by the way, that every single Republican in Congress voted against. --Bob
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The problem, then, is that such calls do not address an opposition audience so much as they signal virtue. They talk past those who need convincing. They ignore actual facts and counterargument. And they are irreparably smug.
feels he represents the many educated and rational onlookers who believe that the hysterical denouncement of lay scepticism is both unwarranted and counter-productive
The problem, then, is that such calls do not address an opposition audience so much as they signal virtue. They talk past those who need convincing. They ignore actual facts and counterargument. And they are irreparably smug.
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Re: Well, the Trucker Protests Show Us One Thing Anyway
So just to be clear, you assume they're in the minority and you're okay with other minority protests, just not this one. Assuming they're in the minority and all.Bob78164 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 15, 2022 1:54 pmThe fact that I never said "[t]hey are brain dead racists" (or anything like that) leaves me more than a little skeptical that you have your facts right about what Prime Minister Trudeau said. I don't think the protestors are brain-dead racists. I think they're selfish pricks.flockofseagulls104 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 15, 2022 1:49 pmThe Prime Minister's response? Same as yours. They are brain dead racists. Let's confiscate their money and create emergency powers to break them. We don't need to re-examine our policies. Screw them. We are much smarter, tolerant and virtuous than them. We know what's best.
Which is exactly what they are protesting taken to a higher level.
In any event, what the Canadian protests are doing is the classic definition of bullying. The protestors are in a decided minority in their views so they can't prevail via the democratic process. Knowing this, they're attempting to cause pain in order to bully their opponents into submission. I'm glad it doesn't appear to be working. --Bob
Well, then
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If the vaccines were safe and effective, why didn’t the shutdowns end and why should the vaccinated fear the unvaccinated?
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The problem, then, is that such calls do not address an opposition audience so much as they signal virtue. They talk past those who need convincing. They ignore actual facts and counterargument. And they are irreparably smug.
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The problem, then, is that such calls do not address an opposition audience so much as they signal virtue. They talk past those who need convincing. They ignore actual facts and counterargument. And they are irreparably smug.
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Not bad look{sic] but bad behavior. Not 100% of the time, nothing is 100%.
I guess the fact that black guys are getting shot by black guys at 1000x the rate they are shot by cops is irrelevant to them. Why protest that, or even address the problem?
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What is this work you are talking about? I was just going to mooch off others with a Gofundme and spend all day blocking the roadBeebs52 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 15, 2022 1:54 pmHope you're not working right now. Cooler heads and all.Weyoun wrote: ↑Tue Feb 15, 2022 1:19 pmBTW the REALITY of the situation is that the VACCINE IS SAFE and BIDEN HAD WAY MORE VOTES.
So while BLM was reckless and counterproductive to do what they did, they did have the REALITY that black guys are getting shot by cops way too much to say it’s simple bad luck.
So that’s one thing going for them those truckers should look into.
Honk!
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Great question - but not really what we were talking about.
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I agree. Boosted crowd should do fine. I exercise in a public gym every day without a mask.themanintheseersuckersuit wrote: ↑Tue Feb 15, 2022 2:20 pmIf the vaccines were safe and effective, why didn’t the shutdowns end and why should the vaccinated fear the unvaccinated?
Get vaccinated!
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This would be a great point if these protestors were not clearly aiming to disrupt the lives of everyone else.flockofseagulls104 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 15, 2022 1:49 pmAnyone killed? Again, not addressing the point. Just deflecting.Bob78164 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 15, 2022 1:30 pmI suspect you don't realize that the blockage of the Ambassador Bridge and related protests has already caused a couple of billion (with a "b") dollars in economic damage. That's a REALLY important link between our countries. --Bobflockofseagulls104 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 15, 2022 1:25 pmBob, I would suggest you do some actual research on real life. It would maybe help your credibility a bit.
Maybe start by googling BLM Protest damage, BLM Antifa damage, stuff like that. Maybe go to 'images' if you don't want to read about it, which you probably won't. I know, all these people are right wing fanatics, and they made it up.
I like your use of the phrase 'mostly peaceful'. It says a lot.
https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/o ... -peaceful/
But I know I'm pissing in the wind. I'm not going to lift a finger to convince you of anything. Waste of time. You don't want to educate yourself and stay in your comfort zone, knock yourself out.
The Prime Minister's response? Same as yours. They are brain dead racists. Let's confiscate their money and create emergency powers to break them. We don't need to re-examine our policies. Screw them. We are much smarter, tolerant and virtuous than them. We know what's best.
Which is exactly what they are protesting taken to a higher level.
If it was a peaceful march and Trudeau was stealing their money that would be a big concern.
WEIRD how the libertarians thinks that some folks aren’t entitled to peace, quiet, and access to work, because another crowd wants things to be another way.
I think the vaccinated rate is Canada is north of 85%? So these folks are an absolute (and moral) minority.
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Weyoun, and only weyoun please,
Tell me, what if we woke up tomorrow and everyone in the world was vaccinated. What would be different than today?
Tell me, what if we woke up tomorrow and everyone in the world was vaccinated. What would be different than today?
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What would be your excuse?tlynn78 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 15, 2022 1:34 pmLOL - tell the truth - you have a ten year-old who got ahold of your posting credentials, right? Bless your heart.
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Oh, the irony of you saying this….flockofseagulls104 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 15, 2022 2:02 pmOr protesting being bullied because the bullies have all the power. And, as you can see, the real bullies don't want to even think about giving up one inch of their power. They'll use even power more to prevent that. And once they get it, they will never give it up. That's how it has always worked throughout history, as our founding fathers knew well.Bob78164 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 15, 2022 1:54 pmThe fact that I never said "[t]hey are brain dead racists" (or anything like that) leaves me more than a little skeptical that you have your facts right about what Prime Minister Trudeau said. I don't think the protestors are brain-dead racists. I think they're selfish pricks.flockofseagulls104 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 15, 2022 1:49 pmThe Prime Minister's response? Same as yours. They are brain dead racists. Let's confiscate their money and create emergency powers to break them. We don't need to re-examine our policies. Screw them. We are much smarter, tolerant and virtuous than them. We know what's best.
Which is exactly what they are protesting taken to a higher level.
In any event, what the Canadian protests are doing is the classic definition of bullying. The protestors are in a decided minority in their views so they can't prevail via the democratic process. Knowing this, they're attempting to cause pain in order to bully their opponents into submission. I'm glad it doesn't appear to be working. --Bob
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