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Look for a college football rule change
During an otherwise unmemorable ACC Championship game, Pitt quarterback Kenny Pickett pulled off a "trick play" that's already become controversial. As he ran downfield on a scramble, he raised his arm and bent his knees as if he was going to slide. The Wake Forest defender a yard away pulled up and Pickett immediately accelerated for a long touchdown run. Later he admitted that he had practiced that play before. There is no penalty for doing what Pickett did, but if he had slid and a WF defender hit him, it would have been a 15 yard penalty. Look for rules officials to address this in the offseason.
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Re: Look for a college football rule change
I saw this on EFB.silverscreenselect wrote: ↑Sun Dec 05, 2021 9:31 amDuring an otherwise unmemorable ACC Championship game, Pitt quarterback Kenny Pickett pulled off a "trick play" that's already become controversial. As he ran downfield on a scramble, he raised his arm and bent his knees as if he was going to slide. The Wake Forest defender a yard away pulled up and Pickett immediately accelerated for a long touchdown run. Later he admitted that he had practiced that play before. There is no penalty for doing what Pickett did, but if he had slid and a WF defender hit him, it would have been a 15 yard penalty. Look for rules officials to address this in the offseason.
I think the rule should be something similar to the intent of the balk rule in baseball where if the pitcher makes a move that would give runners the impression he is beginning his pitch thus signaling to them they can run if they want.
For college football, once the QB provides any indication he is beginning a slide, the ball is dead at that point as that is the "beginning" of the slide. Had he continued with the slide, the spot where the motions he made would or should have been where they spot the ball.
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Re: Look for a college football rule change
Easier just to make it a penalty to fake a slide. On a real slide the ball should be dead at its spot when the QB hits the turf. --BobBackInTex wrote: ↑Sun Dec 05, 2021 10:42 amI saw this on EFB.silverscreenselect wrote: ↑Sun Dec 05, 2021 9:31 amDuring an otherwise unmemorable ACC Championship game, Pitt quarterback Kenny Pickett pulled off a "trick play" that's already become controversial. As he ran downfield on a scramble, he raised his arm and bent his knees as if he was going to slide. The Wake Forest defender a yard away pulled up and Pickett immediately accelerated for a long touchdown run. Later he admitted that he had practiced that play before. There is no penalty for doing what Pickett did, but if he had slid and a WF defender hit him, it would have been a 15 yard penalty. Look for rules officials to address this in the offseason.
I think the rule should be something similar to the intent of the balk rule in baseball where if the pitcher makes a move that would give runners the impression he is beginning his pitch thus signaling to them they can run if they want.
For college football, once the QB provides any indication he is beginning a slide, the ball is dead at that point as that is the "beginning" of the slide. Had he continued with the slide, the spot where the motions he made would or should have been where they spot the ball.
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Somehow, the Patriots will lose a draft pick over this.
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I disagree, and I may be splitting hairs with you but, I think the ball should be dead where/when the defense is supposed to back off (just like when a player steps out of bounds). Once a quarterback gives up the play, initiates the slide, the ball should be dead, otherwise the will start working on how to "surf their slides" to get an additional yard or two..Bob78164 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 05, 2021 11:21 amEasier just to make it a penalty to fake a slide. On a real slide the ball should be dead at its spot when the QB hits the turf. --BobBackInTex wrote: ↑Sun Dec 05, 2021 10:42 amI saw this on EFB.silverscreenselect wrote: ↑Sun Dec 05, 2021 9:31 amDuring an otherwise unmemorable ACC Championship game, Pitt quarterback Kenny Pickett pulled off a "trick play" that's already become controversial. As he ran downfield on a scramble, he raised his arm and bent his knees as if he was going to slide. The Wake Forest defender a yard away pulled up and Pickett immediately accelerated for a long touchdown run. Later he admitted that he had practiced that play before. There is no penalty for doing what Pickett did, but if he had slid and a WF defender hit him, it would have been a 15 yard penalty. Look for rules officials to address this in the offseason.
I think the rule should be something similar to the intent of the balk rule in baseball where if the pitcher makes a move that would give runners the impression he is beginning his pitch thus signaling to them they can run if they want.
For college football, once the QB provides any indication he is beginning a slide, the ball is dead at that point as that is the "beginning" of the slide. Had he continued with the slide, the spot where the motions he made would or should have been where they spot the ball.
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Slides are supposed to be feet-first and the play currently ends as soon as the QB's derriere makes contact with the ground, so in practice I don't think that's a problem. I think it's harder to judge when the quarterback "initiates" the slide than it is to figure out the ball's location when the quarterback makes contact with the ground. --BobBackInTex wrote: ↑Sun Dec 05, 2021 12:41 pmI disagree, and I may be splitting hairs with you but, I think the ball should be dead where/when the defense is supposed to back off (just like when a player steps out of bounds). Once a quarterback gives up the play, initiates the slide, the ball should be dead, otherwise the will start working on how to "surf their slides" to get an additional yard or two.Bob78164 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 05, 2021 11:21 amEasier just to make it a penalty to fake a slide. On a real slide the ball should be dead at its spot when the QB hits the turf. --BobBackInTex wrote: ↑Sun Dec 05, 2021 10:42 amI saw this on EFB.
I think the rule should be something similar to the intent of the balk rule in baseball where if the pitcher makes a move that would give runners the impression he is beginning his pitch thus signaling to them they can run if they want.
For college football, once the QB provides any indication he is beginning a slide, the ball is dead at that point as that is the "beginning" of the slide. Had he continued with the slide, the spot where the motions he made would or should have been where they spot the ball.
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NCAA Rules Committee Outlaws Fake Slide After Kenny Pickett's Viral Play
The NCAA Football Oversight committee sent a bulletin to game officials regarding the “fake slide” by Pittsburgh quarterback Kenny Pickett in the ACC championship game, sources told Sports Illustrated's Pat Forde.
Coordinator of officials Steve Shaw instructed officials to blow a play dead in event of a fake slide attempt by a quarterback. Pickett's fancy move that led to a 58-yard touchdown left fans, teams and everyone in-between wondering if it was legal.
"Any time a ball carrier begins, simulates, or fakes a feet-first slide, the ball should be declared dead by the on field officials at that point. The intent of the rule is player safety, and the objective is to give a ball carrier an option to end the play by sliding feet first and to avoid contact," the ruling reads, in part. "To allow the ball carrier to fake a slide would compromise the defense that is being instructed to let up when the ball carrier slides feet first. A fake slide will not be considered reviewable under Rule 12-3-3 – Dead Ball and Loose Ball."
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The NCAA Football Oversight committee sent a bulletin to game officials regarding the “fake slide” by Pittsburgh quarterback Kenny Pickett in the ACC championship game, sources told Sports Illustrated's Pat Forde.
Coordinator of officials Steve Shaw instructed officials to blow a play dead in event of a fake slide attempt by a quarterback. Pickett's fancy move that led to a 58-yard touchdown left fans, teams and everyone in-between wondering if it was legal.
"Any time a ball carrier begins, simulates, or fakes a feet-first slide, the ball should be declared dead by the on field officials at that point. The intent of the rule is player safety, and the objective is to give a ball carrier an option to end the play by sliding feet first and to avoid contact," the ruling reads, in part. "To allow the ball carrier to fake a slide would compromise the defense that is being instructed to let up when the ball carrier slides feet first. A fake slide will not be considered reviewable under Rule 12-3-3 – Dead Ball and Loose Ball."
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That didn't take long.Vandal wrote: ↑Thu Dec 09, 2021 9:36 pmNCAA Rules Committee Outlaws Fake Slide After Kenny Pickett's Viral Play
The NCAA Football Oversight committee sent a bulletin to game officials regarding the “fake slide” by Pittsburgh quarterback Kenny Pickett in the ACC championship game, sources told Sports Illustrated's Pat Forde.
Coordinator of officials Steve Shaw instructed officials to blow a play dead in event of a fake slide attempt by a quarterback. Pickett's fancy move that led to a 58-yard touchdown left fans, teams and everyone in-between wondering if it was legal.
"Any time a ball carrier begins, simulates, or fakes a feet-first slide, the ball should be declared dead by the on field officials at that point. The intent of the rule is player safety, and the objective is to give a ball carrier an option to end the play by sliding feet first and to avoid contact," the ruling reads, in part. "To allow the ball carrier to fake a slide would compromise the defense that is being instructed to let up when the ball carrier slides feet first. A fake slide will not be considered reviewable under Rule 12-3-3 – Dead Ball and Loose Ball."
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Isn't there already a similar rule about a fake fair catch? If not there should be.Vandal wrote: ↑Thu Dec 09, 2021 9:36 pmNCAA Rules Committee Outlaws Fake Slide After Kenny Pickett's Viral Play
The NCAA Football Oversight committee sent a bulletin to game officials regarding the “fake slide” by Pittsburgh quarterback Kenny Pickett in the ACC championship game, sources told Sports Illustrated's Pat Forde.
Coordinator of officials Steve Shaw instructed officials to blow a play dead in event of a fake slide attempt by a quarterback. Pickett's fancy move that led to a 58-yard touchdown left fans, teams and everyone in-between wondering if it was legal.
"Any time a ball carrier begins, simulates, or fakes a feet-first slide, the ball should be declared dead by the on field officials at that point. The intent of the rule is player safety, and the objective is to give a ball carrier an option to end the play by sliding feet first and to avoid contact," the ruling reads, in part. "To allow the ball carrier to fake a slide would compromise the defense that is being instructed to let up when the ball carrier slides feet first. A fake slide will not be considered reviewable under Rule 12-3-3 – Dead Ball and Loose Ball."
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