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SportsFan68
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by SportsFan68 » Wed Apr 30, 2008 9:05 am
I'm sending $10 to Loovle (that's how my brother says it's pronounced) and want my messenger to plunk it down on the winner -- not the favorite, the favorite never wins.
Who will be the winner? All opinions welcome.
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by MarleysGh0st » Wed Apr 30, 2008 9:14 am
SportsFan68 wrote: Who will be the winner? All opinions welcome.
No idea. I'll copy off of Nathan's answer.

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by tanstaafl2 » Wed Apr 30, 2008 9:34 am
Don't know if he will win but I was impressed with Colonel John at the Santa Anita Derby and it appears he has had no problem with the transition from "fake" dirt to the real thing. He seems to be the big favorite at the moment.
A lot of buzz about Big Brown of course and some talk about a big underdog, Cowboy Cal.
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by silvercamaro » Wed Apr 30, 2008 9:49 am
If you want to avoid the favorite, stay away from Colonel John, who seems to be beloved by a variety of racing writers.
I looked up the entire field of names to see if any of the horses qualified for overwhelming support under the Mother Murphy Method of picking horses. That involves looking for an entry that contains the name of or a reference to any dance or dancer. None of the 20 Derby entries qualifies this year for a sure-fire lock. One horse does seem to have a peripheral connection, however, so I would put my own money on. . .
Denis of Cork.
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by hermillion » Wed Apr 30, 2008 9:52 am
Ah, yes! The Okie horse!
Run, Denis, run . . .
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by ulysses5019 » Wed Apr 30, 2008 9:57 am
I think the fastest horse will win.
I believe in the usefulness of useless information.
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by silvercamaro » Wed Apr 30, 2008 10:00 am
hermillion wrote:Ah, yes! The Okie horse!
Run, Denis, run . . .
I had no idea that he was an Oklahoma horse. "The method" goes only by the names, so I save a lot of time by not having to look up facts and previous finishes. I paid more attention to that sort of thing a few years back, when Wayne Lucas (a big name among trainers) had a breeding/training farm about two miles from me. I would drive Tigger by the fence every spring, as she loved to watch the new colts.
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by peacock2121 » Wed Apr 30, 2008 10:12 am
ulysses5019 wrote:I think the fastest horse will win.
I think it will be the one who loves his jockey the most.
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by TheCalvinator24 » Wed Apr 30, 2008 10:12 am
tanstaafl2 wrote:Don't know if he will win but I was impressed with Colonel John at the Santa Anita Derby and it appears he has had no problem with the transition from "fake" dirt to the real thing. He seems to be the big favorite at the moment.
A lot of buzz about Big Brown of course and some talk about a big underdog, Cowboy Cal.
How could you not put money on Cowboy Cal?
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by peacock2121 » Wed Apr 30, 2008 10:14 am
PlacentiaSoccerMom wrote:The black horse.
You need to go to rehab.
I have been getting into some interesting conversations with people when I tell them this. I think I might need to let people in on our household joke that started last year when I was in rehab with my m-i-l.
Everybody needs rehab.
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by PlacentiaSoccerMom » Wed Apr 30, 2008 10:17 am
peacock2121 wrote:PlacentiaSoccerMom wrote:The black horse.
You need to go to rehab.
I have been getting into some interesting conversations with people when I tell them this. I think I might need to let people in on our household joke that started last year when I was in rehab with my m-i-l.
Everybody needs rehab.
I meant this type of horse. I think that black horses are pretty.

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by Bob Juch » Wed Apr 30, 2008 10:49 am
SportsFan68 wrote:I'm sending $10 to Loovle (that's how my brother says it's pronounced) and want my messenger to plunk it down on the winner -- not the favorite, the favorite never wins.
Who will be the winner? All opinions welcome.
I've got to go with Colonel John
at this time.
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by MarleysGh0st » Wed Apr 30, 2008 11:22 am
TheCalvinator24 wrote: How could you not put money on Cowboy Cal?
I thought he might be your favorite!

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by SportsFan68 » Wed Apr 30, 2008 9:05 pm
Thanks very much to everybody for the dos centavoses!
Cowboy Cal it is, although I flinched a bit. Put the two of them together and you're way too close to a certain unnamed evil football team for me, but the western flair of the Cowboy part won the day.
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by littlebeast13 » Thu May 01, 2008 3:32 am
What are the odds on the Bored's favorite battered horse....?
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by earendel » Thu May 01, 2008 5:38 am
SportsFan68 wrote:I'm sending $10 to Loovle (that's how my brother says it's pronounced) and want my messenger to plunk it down on the winner -- not the favorite, the favorite never wins.
Who will be the winner? All opinions welcome.
Well, after yesterday's "pill pull" for post position, Big Brown has been installed as the early favorite at 3-1 even though he will be starting from the 20th position. (For those in the know, this is the last of the regular starting gate slots - any more than 20 and there's an auxiliary gate. No horse has won coming from the auxiliary gate.) Colonel John is next at 4-1 and Pyro is 6-1. The rest of the field is no better than 15-1. There will be one filly running in the race, Eight Belles; she was scheduled for the Kentucky Oaks (a race second only to the Derby around here, and exclusively for fillies) but drew a terrible position. Her owner had said that if that happened, he'd scratch her from the Oaks and run her in the Derby (for which she was also entered).
"Elen sila lumenn omentielvo...A star shines on the hour of our meeting."
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by MarleysGh0st » Thu May 01, 2008 6:23 am
littlebeast13 wrote:What are the odds on the Bored's favorite battered horse....?
Huh? Is there a horse named Phone Game running?
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by Dead Horse » Thu May 01, 2008 6:27 am
littlebeast13 wrote:What are the odds on the Bored's favorite battered horse....?
lb13
Funny thing, I couldn't get in the race this year. Prolly because I been dead longer than the horses in the Derby have been alive.
Oh well, when the race fans start complaining about the quality of one year's field, that's when I'll make my comeback.
Enough Already
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by littlebeast13 » Thu May 01, 2008 6:27 am
MarleysGh0st wrote:littlebeast13 wrote:What are the odds on the Bored's favorite battered horse....?
Huh? Is there a horse named Phone Game running?
I was referring the MM, of course. Surely he won't let a little something like rigormortis stop his from running in the Derby....
And if we can get a group of BB's to flog him down the track, he'll be a cinch to win!
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by Dead Horse » Thu May 01, 2008 6:53 am
MarleysGh0st wrote:littlebeast13 wrote:What are the odds on the Bored's favorite battered horse....?
Huh? Is there a horse named Phone Game running?
That's funny...Phone Game was one of the aliases(aliai?) I used to run under...along with Question Switcher, hotseatitis, and Hannibal of the Llamas.
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by littlebeast13 » Thu May 01, 2008 6:58 am
Dead Horse wrote:MarleysGh0st wrote:littlebeast13 wrote:What are the odds on the Bored's favorite battered horse....?
Huh? Is there a horse named Phone Game running?
That's funny...Phone Game was one of the aliases(aliai?) I used to run under...along with Question Switcher, hotseatitis, and Hannibal of the Llamas.
Didn't you run two years ago under the name Republican Family Values....?
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by Dead Horse » Thu May 01, 2008 7:07 am
littlebeast13 wrote:Dead Horse wrote:MarleysGh0st wrote:
Huh? Is there a horse named Phone Game running?
That's funny...Phone Game was one of the aliases(aliai?) I used to run under...along with Question Switcher, hotseatitis, and Hannibal of the Llamas.
Didn't you run two years ago under the name Republican Family Values....?
lb13
Nah, I liked the fillies and this stuff called 'beer' too much to run under that handle.
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by gsabc » Thu May 01, 2008 7:08 am
PlacentiaSoccerMom wrote:The black horse.
No, no, no, the one with the curly tail!
Years ago, my folks went to the local track with a group of friends. The guys were miffed when the womenfolk won more money than they did by betting on, among other similar criteria, the horse with the curliest tail.
I just ordered chicken and an egg from Amazon. I'll let you know.