Spell check

[kayrharris]

I make a statement about SPELLING and I get a lecture on grammar???
I never said I was a grammar expert. I am damn good at spelling. Glad I have you something to laugh about as well as keep you busy today. Maybe I even learned something.

[christie1111]

As a copyeditor, I've often heard the following admonition: Avoid using "whomever" unless you are 100% certain of the grammar. When in doubt, just use "whoever." See the Chicago Manual of Style (15th ed.), p. 232. So there.

Works for me!

[silvercamaro]

It's pretty funny that you'll accept only the grammar standards of a fellow Okie.

I was willing to accept the standards of an English teacher whom you may respect.

There are hundreds of internet sites that explain this rule, so I don't know which one would be most credible to you, but the Cliffs Notes site is pretty clear and explicit:
http://www.cliffsnotes.com/WileyCDA/Cli ... 28968.html

Pronoun case in subordinate clause

Who, whom, whoever, whomever. In deciding which case of who you should use in a clause, remember this important rule: The case of the pronoun is governed by the role it plays in its own clause, not by its relation to the rest of the sentence. Choosing the right case of pronoun can be especially confusing because the pronoun may appear to have more than one function. Look at the following sentence.

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They gave the money to whoever presented the winning ticket.

At first, you may be tempted to think whomever rather than whoever should be the pronoun here, on the assumption that it is the object of the preposition to. But in fact the entire clause, not whoever, is the object of the preposition. Refer to the basic rule: The case should be based on the pronoun's role within its own clause. In this clause, whoever is the subject of the verb presented. (A good way to determine the right pronoun case is to forget everything but the clause itself: whoever presented the winning ticket, yes; whomever presented the winning ticket, no.)

The following two sentences show more dramatically how you must focus on the clause rather than the complete sentence in choosing the right pronoun case.

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We asked whomever we saw for a reaction to the play.
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We asked whoever called us to call back later.

In each sentence the clause is the direct object of asked. But in the first sentence, whomever is correct because within its clause it is the object of saw, while in the second sentence, whoever is correct because it is the subject of called.

Okay. I will accept the source you cite, as well as JBG's source, as being credible. I hereby offer my sincere apologies for my grievous error. I shall kick myself in the rear, which I can do with finesse because of intensive Irish dance training.

(I also will ponder whether the rules of grammar have been dumbed down throughout the past century. I'm not saying that they have; I'm just pondering. Please also accept my apologies for that semicolon, as I know there are people who hate all use of those, too.)

signed,
Wrong But At Least I Care

[TheCalvinator24]

I love semi-colons

[TheConfessor]

(I also will ponder whether the rules of grammar have been dumbed down throughout the past century. I'm not saying that they have; I'm just pondering. Please also accept my apologies for that semicolon, as I know there are people who hate all use of those, too.)

Semicolons are fine with me. They just take the place of "and."

signed,
Wrong But At Least I Care

I love people who care. That's more important than being right.

I could do without the mocking from people who don't.

[Bob Juch]

I love semi-colons

So do I; they're much better than full colons. Of course there's Fleet to fix those.

[peacock2121]

(I also will ponder whether the rules of grammar have been dumbed down throughout the past century. I'm not saying that they have; I'm just pondering. Please also accept my apologies for that semicolon, as I know there are people who hate all use of those, too.)

Semicolons are fine with me. They just take the place of "and."

signed,
Wrong But At Least I Care

I love people who care. That's more important than being right.

I could do without the mocking from people who don't.

If, by chance, this was directed at me, I was not mocking. I was being amused. I really meant it when I said the thing about us being able to pick nits about almost anything.

I do think I don't care if it is whoever or whomever.

I do care about a whole lot of other things however.

[peacock2121]

Oh - and Ed, if it was directed at me, I apologize for my tone and my words that you saw and read as mocking. I never intend to mock you, ever.

I do intend to mock others, but never you.

[kayrharris]

I thought it was directed at me. I wasn't mocking either. I'm not really the mocking kind. I was dead serious about learning something. I certainly have more than enough to educate me today, that's for sure.

[peacock2121]

I also wasn't laughing at, I was laughing about.

See.... those two distinctions are something about which I care.

[BeansCat]

peepuls aer funy

it is eezier to get a gud nap then to wory arselvs abowt spelin nd gramre

but mebe its liek wen we grum arselves nd get al the bugs out, is wye peepuls liek to get the gramre rite

catz thinc gramre is oberraitd ennyway - der aer onle a fuw thigns worf sayign, nd dey shud be sed LOWD - feeds me, pets me, nd cleans mi box. nd den feeds me agian.

srsly

[peacock2121]

That really made me laugh!

[AnnieCamaro]

it is eezier to get a gud nap then to wory arselvs abowt spelin nd gramre

but mebe its liek wen we grum arselves nd get al the bugs out, is wye peepuls liek to get the gramre rite

That is why so many more books have been attributed to dogs than have been written by cats. I mean, I like cats, and I've known cats who have proven to be excellent friends, but it's not like I expect to get e-mails from them or anything.

/:P\

[BeansCat]

I mean, I like cats, and I've known cats who have proven to be excellent friends, but it's not like I expect to get e-mails from them or anything.

/:P\

Bee kerful wat u wish fore!

[AnnieCamaro]

I am so excited. I got mail from a cat. I've never gotten mail from a cat before. I answered it.

/:P\