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#1 Post by themanintheseersuckersuit » Mon Apr 28, 2008 6:01 am

Are the Stacks on Syndie BAM harder than Prime TIme BAM?"

Discuss among yourselves
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feels he represents the many educated and rational onlookers who believe that the hysterical denouncement of lay scepticism is both unwarranted and counter-productive

The problem, then, is that such calls do not address an opposition audience so much as they signal virtue. They talk past those who need convincing. They ignore actual facts and counterargument. And they are irreparably smug.

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#2 Post by peacock2121 » Mon Apr 28, 2008 6:05 am

Where is that dead horse being beaten?

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#3 Post by themanintheseersuckersuit » Mon Apr 28, 2008 6:09 am

peacock2121 wrote:Where is that dead horse being beaten?
Nelly's got him in the Hillary thread.
Suitguy is not bitter.

feels he represents the many educated and rational onlookers who believe that the hysterical denouncement of lay scepticism is both unwarranted and counter-productive

The problem, then, is that such calls do not address an opposition audience so much as they signal virtue. They talk past those who need convincing. They ignore actual facts and counterargument. And they are irreparably smug.

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#4 Post by littlebeast13 » Mon Apr 28, 2008 6:09 am

peacock2121 wrote:Where is that dead horse being beaten?

I think he's in here....


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#5 Post by peacock2121 » Mon Apr 28, 2008 6:12 am

themanintheseersuckersuit wrote:
peacock2121 wrote:Where is that dead horse being beaten?
Nelly's got him in the Hillary thread.
He is deader there than here, that is for sure.

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#6 Post by peacock2121 » Mon Apr 28, 2008 6:13 am

littlebeast13 wrote:
peacock2121 wrote:Where is that dead horse being beaten?

I think he's in here....


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#7 Post by gsabc » Mon Apr 28, 2008 6:31 am

No, it just seems that way because we've gotten dumber and more forgetful as we've all gotten older.
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#8 Post by kusch » Mon Apr 28, 2008 7:02 am

themanintheseersuckersuit wrote:Are the Stacks on Syndie BAM harder than Prime TIme BAM?"

Discuss among yourselves
Yes, always have been.

So there, end of today's discussion. Next. :D

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#9 Post by PlacentiaSoccerMom » Mon Apr 28, 2008 7:34 am

themanintheseersuckersuit wrote:Are the Stacks on Syndie BAM harder than Prime TIme BAM?"

Discuss among yourselves
Yes!

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#10 Post by peacock2121 » Mon Apr 28, 2008 7:38 am

How else do we explain the Syndie BAM people here not winning as much as the PT BAM people here?

huh?

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#11 Post by themanintheseersuckersuit » Mon Apr 28, 2008 7:42 am

peacock2121 wrote:How else do we explain the Syndie BAM people here not winning as much as the PT BAM people here?

huh?
There an opening to bring up the Phone Game. :)
Suitguy is not bitter.

feels he represents the many educated and rational onlookers who believe that the hysterical denouncement of lay scepticism is both unwarranted and counter-productive

The problem, then, is that such calls do not address an opposition audience so much as they signal virtue. They talk past those who need convincing. They ignore actual facts and counterargument. And they are irreparably smug.

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#12 Post by peacock2121 » Mon Apr 28, 2008 7:44 am

themanintheseersuckersuit wrote:
peacock2121 wrote:How else do we explain the Syndie BAM people here not winning as much as the PT BAM people here?

huh?
There an opening to bring up the Phone Game. :)
Where is that glue?

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#13 Post by Dead Horse » Mon Apr 28, 2008 7:50 am

peacock2121 wrote:
themanintheseersuckersuit wrote:
peacock2121 wrote:How else do we explain the Syndie BAM people here not winning as much as the PT BAM people here?

huh?
There an opening to bring up the Phone Game. :)
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#14 Post by littlebeast13 » Mon Apr 28, 2008 7:54 am

Dead Horse wrote:
peacock2121 wrote:
themanintheseersuckersuit wrote: There an opening to bring up the Phone Game. :)
Where is that glue?
Give me a little time, what'll be left of me will be available soon...

I miss your original avatar....

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#15 Post by kayrharris » Mon Apr 28, 2008 8:10 am

Yes.
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#16 Post by Bob Juch » Mon Apr 28, 2008 8:47 am

peacock2121 wrote:How else do we explain the Syndie BAM people here not winning as much as the PT BAM people here?

huh?
If you average the Bored members' winnings, I think you will find the SyndiBAM winnings are higher. Of course that's due to one particular winner.

I agree that the SyndiBAM questions are harder, however.
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#17 Post by Kazoo65 » Mon Apr 28, 2008 9:01 am

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The questions on SyndiBAM aren't neccessarily harder-although some of them have been quite obscure, like "what was the first name of the defense lawyer in the Roe v. Wade case?" that got asked last season. Who knows that other than someone wlo went to law school? The question earlier this year about the Zonnules of Zinn is another example of obscure trivia that frequently pops up on this show-BTW, there is a book at my library called "Beyond the Zonnules of Zinn". I think of that question every time I see it.

Also, we have seen quite a few (OK, lots of) contestants that don't even make it to the third tier-where you will find the REALLY tough trivia. They get stymied by easier stuff and waste lifelines. Geography is a big stumbling block for many people-we saw several examples last week.

My idea for an online test would help the APs find smarter people that could handle the tougher questions at the top tier. By making the online test more difficult (say using $8k-25k level questions, with the occassional easy one thrown in) you would weed out the people that probably would burn lifelines pre $1K.
The J! test uses the more difficult material (the bottom of the board) for just that purpose.

I think the audition process should focus more on the ability to play the game and less on whether or not the contestant makes "good TV". Give me people who have a good shot at winning the $1M instead of people with perky over the top personalities any day!
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#18 Post by Bob Juch » Mon Apr 28, 2008 9:13 am

Kazoo65 wrote:I think the audition process should focus more on the ability to play the game and less on whether or not the contestant makes "good TV". Give me people who have a good shot at winning the $1M instead of people with perky over the top personalities any day!
You still don't get it: They don't want to give away more money!
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#19 Post by TheCalvinator24 » Mon Apr 28, 2008 9:15 am

Bob Juch wrote:
peacock2121 wrote:How else do we explain the Syndie BAM people here not winning as much as the PT BAM people here?

huh?
If you average the Bored members' winnings, I think you will find the SyndiBAM winnings are higher. Of course that's due to one particular winner.

I agree that the SyndiBAM questions are harder, however.
Are you sure about that?

I'm pretty sure the PrimeTime average would be higher. TheConfessor balances hermillion. Actually, he more than balances because of the escalating bonus he won.
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#20 Post by peacock2121 » Mon Apr 28, 2008 9:51 am

TheCalvinator24 wrote:
Bob Juch wrote:
peacock2121 wrote:How else do we explain the Syndie BAM people here not winning as much as the PT BAM people here?

huh?
If you average the Bored members' winnings, I think you will find the SyndiBAM winnings are higher. Of course that's due to one particular winner.

I agree that the SyndiBAM questions are harder, however.
Are you sure about that?

I'm pretty sure the PrimeTime average would be higher. TheConfessor balances hermillion. Actually, he more than balances because of the escalating bonus he won.
I have not done the math and I would guess that Cal is right.

Maybe we have a job for somebody?

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#21 Post by tanstaafl2 » Mon Apr 28, 2008 10:13 am

Kazoo65 wrote: The question earlier this year about the Zonnules of Zinn is another example of obscure trivia that frequently pops up on this show
Definitely harder, or perhaps more obscure and WGAS-ish, although that particularly one didn't seem so hard to me...

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#22 Post by Bob Juch » Mon Apr 28, 2008 10:57 am

tanstaafl2 wrote:
Kazoo65 wrote: The question earlier this year about the Zonnules of Zinn is another example of obscure trivia that frequently pops up on this show
Definitely harder, or perhaps more obscure and WGAS-ish, although that particularly one didn't seem so hard to me...
It was very easy for me because the ones in my left eye were damaged by the lens implanted after my cataract operation.
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#23 Post by TheConfessor » Mon Apr 28, 2008 12:17 pm

The Fastest Finger questions were much harder in prime time.

The switched questions are much harder on the syndicated show.

Considering that most prime time contestants never reached the hot seat, I assume the average dollars won per contestant were lower in prime time.

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#24 Post by TheCalvinator24 » Mon Apr 28, 2008 12:29 pm

TheConfessor wrote:The Fastest Finger questions were much harder in prime time.

The switched questions are much harder on the syndicated show.

Considering that most prime time contestants never reached the hot seat, I assume the average dollars won per contestant were lower in prime time.
I would only include Hot Seat occupants in the averaging.
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#25 Post by christie1111 » Mon Apr 28, 2008 12:30 pm

Hey, I have a problem with this Subject line anyway.

Since when have we been limited to one subject matter for discussion on any given day?

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