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#1 Post by Spock » Sun Apr 28, 2019 5:50 pm

Saw this in one of my farm magazines.

AOC was recommending that people eat less meat to help the environment and that breakfast is probably the easiest meal to skip meat and that she just will have a banana and yogurt.

Um, apparently her environmental accounting system doesn't include the fact that her banana had to travel thousands of miles to get to her; not to mention whatever other environmental impacts that banana plantations have in 3rd world countries.

Fair is Fair-consider the environmental impacts of both alternatives.

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#2 Post by jarnon » Sun Apr 28, 2019 6:50 pm

Politically a healthy New York apple is a better choice. Maybe she just likes bananas.
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#3 Post by Ritterskoop » Sun Apr 28, 2019 8:28 pm

Mom and I eat half a banana before our 5ks; even if you don't feel like eating, you can slurp down four bites of a small banana. There is no chewing or hardly any tasting. It's Nature's perfect food.

But boy, I love me some apples (not before a race, though; the acid is too harsh), and have gotten addicted to those Honeycrisp jobbers. They used to cost $4/lb but now it's $1.79 or some such. Produce guy said at first there were not as many farmers but now everyone is on board, so the supply is greater. I'm sure they are terrible bad for me with the sugar, but the crispy crunch is more satisfying than any apple variety I've ever had.

AOC cracks me up; more to the point, it cracks me up that people keep asking her anything, and then being surprised at her answers. It's not unlike feeding a troll (I am NOT calling her a troll; I'm saying ... don't feed the trolls, is what I'm saying). If you stop asking her stuff, she won't be on the front page every day, freaking people out. She is one of hundreds of representatives. If her ideas are kooky, they won't pass. End of story.
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#4 Post by Bob Juch » Sun Apr 28, 2019 8:40 pm

Ritterskoop wrote:AOC cracks me up; more to the point, it cracks me up that people keep asking her anything, and then being surprised at her answers. It's not unlike feeding a troll (I am NOT calling her a troll; I'm saying ... don't feed the trolls, is what I'm saying). If you stop asking her stuff, she won't be on the front page every day, freaking people out. She is one of hundreds of representatives. If her ideas are kooky, they won't pass. End of story.
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#5 Post by BackInTex » Sun Apr 28, 2019 9:22 pm

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Ritterskoop wrote:AOC cracks me up; more to the point, it cracks me up that people keep asking her anything, and then being surprised at her answers. It's not unlike feeding a troll (I am NOT calling her a troll; I'm saying ... don't feed the trolls, is what I'm saying). If you stop asking her stuff, she won't be on the front page every day, freaking people out. She is one of hundreds of representatives. If her ideas are kooky, they won't pass. End of story.
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#6 Post by silverscreenselect » Sun Apr 28, 2019 9:43 pm

Here's the article about her comments, which were obviously made at least two months ago:
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez recently visited a school in Queens where a student asked the New York congresswoman her recommendations about how to combat climate change. “Skip disposable razors and switch to safety razors,” Ocasio-Cortez advised. “Give your tummy a break! Skip meat and dairy for a meal—easiest is breakfast; I do banana and peanut butter.” Ocasio-Cortez followed up with several other suggestions, telling students to shop at thrift stores, to use public transit, and to bring reusable bags on grocery shopping trips. Last month, Ocasio-Cortez took to Instagram to reveal that her favorite milk choices are plant-based varieties, stating, “I’m very into oat milk right now which, in my opinion, is the best of all the milks after cashew milk.”
So, as usually happens with AOC, those who oppose her search through everything she says to find one phrase in an entire address that they can blow out of proportion to try to make a point. So, she's trying to get children to eat more healthy meals and start being environmentally conscious. I notice you didn't mention that in your little diatribe against her.

If people see how she handles herself in Congressional hearings, you'll see that she is quite sharp and quick on her feet and that usually every time one of these manufactured controversies plays out, she winds up getting the better of those nitwits who try to bring her down.

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#7 Post by Ritterskoop » Sun Apr 28, 2019 10:31 pm

If a thing is in a monthly magazine, it stands to reason that it is a tad out of date, newswise. It's not cool to pick on that Spock's story is not from yesterday.

And you know, not that I will be defending Spock most days, but I would hardly refer to his opening post as a diatribe. That implies far more heft than this post had.

I think if some of y'all on the extremes would stop responding to each other, a ton of this shit would go away, and that would be a good thing. We could talk about anything else, like does anyone ever try a day without social media, or what does anyone recommend to do on an October trip to Nashville?

You know. Normal people shit. Like that.
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#8 Post by Estonut » Mon Apr 29, 2019 2:27 am

silverscreenselect wrote:If people see how she handles herself in Congressional hearings, you'll see that she is quite sharp and quick on her feet and that usually every time one of these manufactured controversies plays out, she winds up getting the better of those nitwits who try to bring her down.
Every clip I've seen of her during Congressional hearings looks like she's asking scripted questions. Any follow-up is met with wide-eyed stares from her. Can you provide a clip showing her being "quite sharp and quick on her feet?" Can you provide a clip of her "getting the better" of anyone?
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#9 Post by silverscreenselect » Mon Apr 29, 2019 3:04 am

Estonut wrote: Every clip I've seen of her during Congressional hearings looks like she's asking scripted questions.
And who do you think scripts her questions? She prepares for those hearings to make the points she wants to make, unlike a lot of others who just seem to muddle around until their time is up.
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#10 Post by Beebs52 » Mon Apr 29, 2019 6:04 am

Ritterskoop wrote:If a thing is in a monthly magazine, it stands to reason that it is a tad out of date, newswise. It's not cool to pick on that Spock's story is not from yesterday.

And you know, not that I will be defending Spock most days, but I would hardly refer to his opening post as a diatribe. That implies far more heft than this post had.

I think if some of y'all on the extremes would stop responding to each other, a ton of this shit would go away, and that would be a good thing. We could talk about anything else, like does anyone ever try a day without social media, or what does anyone recommend to do on an October trip to Nashville?

You know. Normal people shit. Like that.
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#11 Post by tlynn78 » Mon Apr 29, 2019 8:41 am

Ritterskoop wrote:If a thing is in a monthly magazine, it stands to reason that it is a tad out of date, newswise. It's not cool to pick on that Spock's story is not from yesterday.

And you know, not that I will be defending Spock most days, but I would hardly refer to his opening post as a diatribe. That implies far more heft than this post had.

I think if some of y'all on the extremes would stop responding to each other, a ton of this shit would go away, and that would be a good thing. We could talk about anything else, like does anyone ever try a day without social media, or what does anyone recommend to do on an October trip to Nashville?

You know. Normal people shit. Like that.

One of my favorite trips was to Nashvile (and surrounding environs) one gorgeous October! Get thee to Sevierville and go ZORBING!!! So. Much. Fun!!! The trees, the colors, Grand Ol' Opry, of course, and there was an absolutely fabulous crafts fair in Asheville (just up the mountain from Sevierville. Plus, if it's your jam, Dollywood is in Sevierville, as well.
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#12 Post by SportsFan68 » Mon Apr 29, 2019 10:39 pm

Ritterskoop wrote:Mom and I eat half a banana before our 5ks; even if you don't feel like eating, you can slurp down four bites of a small banana. There is no chewing or hardly any tasting. It's Nature's perfect food.

But boy, I love me some apples (not before a race, though; the acid is too harsh), and have gotten addicted to those Honeycrisp jobbers. They used to cost $4/lb but now it's $1.79 or some such. Produce guy said at first there were not as many farmers but now everyone is on board, so the supply is greater. I'm sure they are terrible bad for me with the sugar, but the crispy crunch is more satisfying than any apple variety I've ever had.

AOC cracks me up; more to the point, it cracks me up that people keep asking her anything, and then being surprised at her answers. It's not unlike feeding a troll (I am NOT calling her a troll; I'm saying ... don't feed the trolls, is what I'm saying). If you stop asking her stuff, she won't be on the front page every day, freaking people out. She is one of hundreds of representatives. If her ideas are kooky, they won't pass. End of story.
About a million years ago (OK, a couple decades), I would get horrific leg and foot cramps several times a week until I started eating half a banana every day. I bet it helps Skoop and Skoop's mom the same way.

As for Honeycrisps -- now there is nature's perfect food. I discovered them around 2005 or so on the recommendation of a co-worker. I googled them and discovered they were first developed in the early 1960s and was furious -- how dare they keep this delicious secret from me?

These days, with the demise of Winesaps, Jonathans, and McIntoshes (OK, McIntoshes will still show up in the fall) from grocery stores, Honeycrisps plus Granny Smiths and Galas for SteelersFan are the only apples that make it from store to CasaSprots. We have a Baldwin tree in the back yard, but we rarely get apples. Those warm early spring days come along and fool the tree into producing blossoms, then three week later, zap! A hard frost, and all the applies (and apricots) are gone.

Everybody in the county did get apples last year. Here's hoping for a repeat -- and for apricots too!
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#13 Post by Bob78164 » Tue Apr 30, 2019 12:36 am

Estonut wrote:
silverscreenselect wrote:If people see how she handles herself in Congressional hearings, you'll see that she is quite sharp and quick on her feet and that usually every time one of these manufactured controversies plays out, she winds up getting the better of those nitwits who try to bring her down.
Every clip I've seen of her during Congressional hearings looks like she's asking scripted questions. Any follow-up is met with wide-eyed stares from her. Can you provide a clip showing her being "quite sharp and quick on her feet?" Can you provide a clip of her "getting the better" of anyone?
She does better -- a lot better -- than most of the lawyers in my experience who try to take a deposition. It is my professional opinion that she's already quite good at questioning, and I expect she'll only get better. --Bob
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#14 Post by silverscreenselect » Tue Apr 30, 2019 3:07 am

Bob78164 wrote:
Estonut wrote:
silverscreenselect wrote:If people see how she handles herself in Congressional hearings, you'll see that she is quite sharp and quick on her feet and that usually every time one of these manufactured controversies plays out, she winds up getting the better of those nitwits who try to bring her down.
Every clip I've seen of her during Congressional hearings looks like she's asking scripted questions. Any follow-up is met with wide-eyed stares from her. Can you provide a clip showing her being "quite sharp and quick on her feet?" Can you provide a clip of her "getting the better" of anyone?
She does better -- a lot better -- than most of the lawyers in my experience who try to take a deposition. It is my professional opinion that she's already quite good at questioning, and I expect she'll only get better. --Bob
I'd also guess that most lawyers in your experience don't have a right-wing noise machine hovering over every word they say looking for some little slip-up they can turn into one of their manufactured rants about how naive or wacky they are. The more time they spend going after her, the worse they look to everyone who isn't already in the tank for Trump.
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silverscreenselect wrote:
Bob78164 wrote:
Estonut wrote:Every clip I've seen of her during Congressional hearings looks like she's asking scripted questions. Any follow-up is met with wide-eyed stares from her. Can you provide a clip showing her being "quite sharp and quick on her feet?" Can you provide a clip of her "getting the better" of anyone?
She does better -- a lot better -- than most of the lawyers in my experience who try to take a deposition. It is my professional opinion that she's already quite good at questioning, and I expect she'll only get better. --Bob
I'd also guess that most lawyers in your experience don't have a right-wing noise machine hovering over every word they say looking for some little slip-up they can turn into one of their manufactured rants about how naive or wacky they are. The more time they spend going after her, the worse they look to everyone who isn't already in the tank for Trump.
The noise machine is trying to paint her as stupid. I've been saying for quite a while that anyone who buys into that narrative just isn't paying attention to the evidence. --Bob
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#16 Post by BackInTex » Tue Apr 30, 2019 12:58 pm

Bob78164 wrote:
silverscreenselect wrote:
Bob78164 wrote:She does better -- a lot better -- than most of the lawyers in my experience who try to take a deposition. It is my professional opinion that she's already quite good at questioning, and I expect she'll only get better. --Bob
I'd also guess that most lawyers in your experience don't have a right-wing noise machine hovering over every word they say looking for some little slip-up they can turn into one of their manufactured rants about how naive or wacky they are. The more time they spend going after her, the worse they look to everyone who isn't already in the tank for Trump.
The noise machine is trying to paint her as stupid. I've been saying for quite a while that anyone who buys into that narrative just isn't paying attention to the evidence. --Bob
She is that, and ignorant at the same time. Just watch her "grill" the big bank heads about student loans.
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#17 Post by Bob78164 » Tue Apr 30, 2019 1:25 pm

BackInTex wrote:
Bob78164 wrote:
silverscreenselect wrote:
I'd also guess that most lawyers in your experience don't have a right-wing noise machine hovering over every word they say looking for some little slip-up they can turn into one of their manufactured rants about how naive or wacky they are. The more time they spend going after her, the worse they look to everyone who isn't already in the tank for Trump.
The noise machine is trying to paint her as stupid. I've been saying for quite a while that anyone who buys into that narrative just isn't paying attention to the evidence. --Bob
She is that, and ignorant at the same time. Just watch her "grill" the big bank heads about student loans.
You are mistaking disagreement with your preferred positions with stupidity and ignorance.

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Bob78164 wrote: In some ways, I envy Rep. Ocasio-Cortez. I really miss the days when I could get people to underestimate me that drastically. I hope she enjoys her ability to take people by surprise while it lasts. --Bob
As long as she remains a female, Hispanic, ex-waitress from the Bronx, Republicans and right-wingers will underestimate her intelligence.
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#19 Post by Beebs52 » Tue Apr 30, 2019 3:02 pm

silverscreenselect wrote:
Bob78164 wrote: In some ways, I envy Rep. Ocasio-Cortez. I really miss the days when I could get people to underestimate me that drastically. I hope she enjoys her ability to take people by surprise while it lasts. --Bob
As long as she remains a female, Hispanic, ex-waitress from the Bronx, Republicans and right-wingers will underestimate her intelligence.
That is one of your more superlatively asshole things you'ved said.
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Bob78164 wrote:
BackInTex wrote:
Bob78164 wrote:The noise machine is trying to paint her as stupid. I've been saying for quite a while that anyone who buys into that narrative just isn't paying attention to the evidence. --Bob
She is that, and ignorant at the same time. Just watch her "grill" the big bank heads about student loans.
You are mistaking disagreement with your preferred positions with stupidity and ignorance.

In some ways, I envy Rep. Ocasio-Cortez. I really miss the days when I could get people to underestimate me that drastically. I hope she enjoys her ability to take people by surprise while it lasts. --Bob
So, you didn't watch her "grill" the big bank heads. I'm not mistaking anything. She was asking (and accusing) the heads about something they had no hand in. She had no clue. And apparently you don't either.
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#21 Post by Bob Juch » Tue Apr 30, 2019 3:34 pm

Poles Are Posting Photos of Themselves Eating Bananas to Protest Government Censorship

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Beebs52 wrote:
silverscreenselect wrote:
Bob78164 wrote: In some ways, I envy Rep. Ocasio-Cortez. I really miss the days when I could get people to underestimate me that drastically. I hope she enjoys her ability to take people by surprise while it lasts. --Bob
As long as she remains a female, Hispanic, ex-waitress from the Bronx, Republicans and right-wingers will underestimate her intelligence.
That is one of your more superlatively asshole things you'ved said.
But you see, there are plenty of Democratic politicians who really are (and demonstrate themselves to be) idiots. (Plenty of Republican politicians too, of course.) She's not one of them, but she's the one being targeted. --Bob
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#23 Post by silverscreenselect » Tue Apr 30, 2019 4:28 pm

Beebs52 wrote:
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Bob78164 wrote: In some ways, I envy Rep. Ocasio-Cortez. I really miss the days when I could get people to underestimate me that drastically. I hope she enjoys her ability to take people by surprise while it lasts. --Bob
As long as she remains a female, Hispanic, ex-waitress from the Bronx, Republicans and right-wingers will underestimate her intelligence.
That is one of your more superlatively asshole things you'ved said.
Then why haven't the Republicans attacked any of the other 40 or so incoming Democratic representatives except Ocasio-Cortez and Ilhan Omar, who like AOC is female and a minority?
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#24 Post by BackInTex » Tue Apr 30, 2019 4:38 pm

silverscreenselect wrote:
Beebs52 wrote:
silverscreenselect wrote:
As long as she remains a female, Hispanic, ex-waitress from the Bronx, Republicans and right-wingers will underestimate her intelligence.
That is one of your more superlatively asshole things you'ved said.
Then why haven't the Republicans attacked any of the other 40 or so incoming Democratic representatives except Ocasio-Cortez and Ilhan Omar, who like AOC is female and a minority?
Because the others are smart enough not to stand up on a social media soapbox and spout extremely stupid, offensive, and divisive things. And the media isn't helping them by propping them up as the future of the party (though I hope the media is right).
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#25 Post by Beebs52 » Tue Apr 30, 2019 5:06 pm

Bob and sss, whatevs.
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