It IS a crisis

[BackInTex]

So now you're going from the lie that Democrats support "post-birth abortion" so the worse lie that Democrats "revel in it"?

They do revel in abortion up to the moment of birth, unless you don't consider lighting One World Trade Center pink as reveling. I consider it reveling.

So any celebration of women's rights constitutes reveling in abortion? The nineteenth century is calling. It wants its attitudes back. --Bob

The tower wasn't lit to celebrate women being able to vote, drive, open a bank account, marry, or anything but the expansion of them to be able to abort up to birth. So no, they weren't celebrating women's rights, just one, abortion. But they already had that, the "up to birth" part was the big change, thus the celebration was for it.

[silverscreenselect]

Ah yes, the ubiquitous "Well, just kill them before (or shortly after) birth since the Repubs won't fund them for life" argument. That's a winner.

The Democrats do have the winning arguments on abortion and health care (and climate change for good measure):

Poll: More Americans see Democratic positions on climate, health care, abortion as 'in the mainstream'

If you're wondering how the Democrats picked up 40 seats in the House last November, it wasn't by shouting "impeach Trump." They campaigned on the issues that matter to the American public and promoted positions that the public approves of. If the Republicans want to continue backing themselves into corners on these issues, they can expect the same results in 2020.

[Estonut]

So now you're going from the lie that Democrats support "post-birth abortion" so the worse lie that Democrats "revel in it"?

They do revel in abortion up to the moment of birth, unless you don't consider lighting One World Trade Center pink as reveling. I consider it reveling.

So any celebration of women's rights constitutes reveling in abortion? The nineteenth century is calling. It wants its attitudes back.

"Women's rights?" Except for female babies, I guess!

[silverscreenselect]

So no, they weren't celebrating women's rights, just one, abortion. But they already had that, the "up to birth" part was the big change, thus the celebration was for it.

Here's what Fact Check has to say. The Act, passed by the new Democratic majorities in the New York legislature, removed a number of the harsh restrictions Republicans had placed on abortions over the years.

The RHA permits abortions when — according to a medical professional’s “reasonable and good faith professional judgment based on the facts of the patient’s case” — “the patient is within twenty-four weeks from the commencement of pregnancy, or there is an absence of fetal viability, or the abortion is necessary to protect the patient’s life or health.”

In other words, women may choose to have an abortion prior to 24 weeks; pregnancies typically range from 38 to 42 weeks. After 24 weeks, such decisions must be made with a determination that there is an “absence of fetal viability” or that the procedure is “necessary to protect the patient’s life or health.” That determination must be made by a “health care practitioner licensed, certified, or authorized” under state law, “acting within his or her lawful scope of practice.” Previously, abortions after 24 weeks were justified only in cases where the mother’s life was at risk — which was inconsistent with a part of the Roe decision, as we explain later.

https://www.factcheck.org/2019/02/addre ... rtion-law/

What these women were "reveling" in was the removal of a whole host of restrictions Republican legislators had placed on them over the years.

[BackInTex]

What these women were "reveling" in was the removal of a whole host of restrictions on getting an abortion Republican legislators had placed on them over the years.

So you agree they were reveling in abortion. Good.

[Bob78164]

So no, they weren't celebrating women's rights, just one, abortion. But they already had that, the "up to birth" part was the big change, thus the celebration was for it.

Here's what Fact Check has to say. The Act, passed by the new Democratic majorities in the New York legislature, removed a number of the harsh restrictions Republicans had placed on abortions over the years.

I think you're mistaken about that part. I think the statute that was replaced predated Roe v. Wade. The Democratic majority updated the law in anticipation of the probability that the Court will overrule Roe in the near future.

And yes, transferring control of women's bodies from the government to the women themselves is something to celebrate. --Bob

[BackInTex]

So no, they weren't celebrating women's rights, just one, abortion. But they already had that, the "up to birth" part was the big change, thus the celebration was for it.

Here's what Fact Check has to say. The Act, passed by the new Democratic majorities in the New York legislature, removed a number of the harsh restrictions Republicans had placed on abortions over the years.

I think you're mistaken about that part. I think the statute that was replaced predated Roe v. Wade. The Democratic majority updated the law in anticipation of the probability that the Court will overrule Roe in the near future.

And yes, transferring control of women's bodies from the government to the women themselves is something to celebrate. --Bob

Quite trying to dodge the topic. Women had and have control of their bodies. They can poop, have sex, shave or not, floss, get teeth filled, removed or replaced, get tattoos, piercings, and even have have their genitalia modified. There is only one thing about their body that this legislation addresses and that is having an abortion (which affects someone else's body more than theirs). So YES, the celebration was about abortion, and NOTHING else.

Just be honest....for once.

[Bob78164]

Here's what Fact Check has to say. The Act, passed by the new Democratic majorities in the New York legislature, removed a number of the harsh restrictions Republicans had placed on abortions over the years.

I think you're mistaken about that part. I think the statute that was replaced predated Roe v. Wade. The Democratic majority updated the law in anticipation of the probability that the Court will overrule Roe in the near future.

And yes, transferring control of women's bodies from the government to the women themselves is something to celebrate. --Bob

Quite trying to dodge the topic. Women had and have control of their bodies. They can poop, have sex, shave or not, floss, get teeth filled, removed or replaced, get tattoos, piercings, and even have have their genitalia modified. There is only one thing about their body that this legislation addresses and that is having an abortion (which affects someone else's body more than theirs). So YES, the celebration was about abortion, and NOTHING else.

Just be honest....for once.

Given the outright lies that anti-choice advocates insist on propagating, you're in no position to be challenging anyone's honesty.

If you don't want an abortion, don't have one. But I won't stand by idly while you and those like you attempt to compel women to endure nine months of pregnancy that they do not want. This isn't The Handmaid's Tale. --Bob

[flockofseagulls104]

Your party isn't even disguising its support for unlimited abortion, even after birth.

This, of course, is a damned lie. Of course, the Republican Party doesn't seem to have any issue with the numerous post-birth abortions committed in Columbine, Sandy Hook, Las Vegas, Parkland, and scores of other places. At least, it doesn't seem to care enough to actually do something effective about them. --Bob

Right bob-tel. Republicans revel in it. Good analogy. Oh, yeah, they are all racists, too. What else?
(You are one sick puppy).

Thats two posts in a row you've misread. You really are illiterate.

[jarnon]

Back to the border: Trump threatened to close it completely, but decided not to after being reassured that Mexico will crack down on caravans.

Trump tweeted that Kirstjen Nielsen, John Kelly's hand-picked successor, is out as DHS Secretary. CBP Commissioner Kevin McAleenan is the acting secretary.

Acting ICE Director Ronald Vitiello will not be nominated as permanent director. There hasn't been a Senate-confirmed ICE Director since Trump took office.

The Rasputin of the border Stephen Miller remains in charge. (Can you tell that I don't like that guy?)

[silverscreenselect]

Trump tweeted that Kirstjen Nielsen, John Kelly's hand-picked successor, is out as DHS Secretary.

So, by my count that makes 458 people and organizations that Trump blames for the crisis at the border. It's far easier to count the ones he doesn't blame. That would be a grand total of one: Donald Trump.

[Estonut]

So, by my count that makes 458 people and organizations that Trump blames for the crisis at the border.

Well, if you're counting, let's see the list.

[silverscreenselect]

So, by my count that makes 458 people and organizations that Trump blames for the crisis at the border.

Well, if you're counting, let's see the list.

I just won my bet with myself. I bet you would be on here posting pretty much what you said.

[Estonut]

So, by my count that makes 458 people and organizations that Trump blames for the crisis at the border.

Well, if you're counting, let's see the list.

I just won my bet with myself. I bet you would be on here posting pretty much what you said.

And you have the same non-existent proof for that!

[jarnon]

Not to worry, the end of the crisis is at hand.

On June 10th, the United States will impose a 5% Tariff on all goods coming into our Country from Mexico, until such time as illegal migrants coming through Mexico, and into our Country, STOP. The Tariff will gradually increase until the Illegal Immigration problem is remedied, at which time the Tariffs will be removed. Details from the White House to follow.

At least he's consistent. He thinks money can change minds, whether in the Middle East, North Korea or Mexico. And he likes tried-and-true methods, at the risk of being called old-fashioned: wheels, walls, steam catapults, manual aircraft controls, paper ballots, and tariffs. But he's modern on one way: announcing policies on Twitter.