I’ll offer you a wager. Let’s say $1000. Between 2019 and 2028, the average annual worldwide temperature as determined by NASA will reach a record high more often than it will reach a record low. If there’s a tie (including 0-0), you win. —Bobthemanintheseersuckersuit wrote:If you correctly identified wasteRitterskoop wrote:We are allowed to try to cut down on waste without being labeled hysterical, right?
An Epitaph for Global Warming Hysteria
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"Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason than that of blindfolded fear." Thomas Jefferson
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By record you mean since 1850 and the end of the little ice age. I'd be willing to bet the satilite record will not be .5C higher in 2028Bob78164 wrote:I’ll offer you a wager. Let’s say $1000. Between 2019 and 2028, the average annual worldwide temperature as determined by NASA will reach a record high more often than it will reach a record low. If there’s a tie (including 0-0), you win. —Bobthemanintheseersuckersuit wrote:If you correctly identified wasteRitterskoop wrote:We are allowed to try to cut down on waste without being labeled hysterical, right?
Suitguy is not bitter.
feels he represents the many educated and rational onlookers who believe that the hysterical denouncement of lay scepticism is both unwarranted and counter-productive
The problem, then, is that such calls do not address an opposition audience so much as they signal virtue. They talk past those who need convincing. They ignore actual facts and counterargument. And they are irreparably smug.
feels he represents the many educated and rational onlookers who believe that the hysterical denouncement of lay scepticism is both unwarranted and counter-productive
The problem, then, is that such calls do not address an opposition audience so much as they signal virtue. They talk past those who need convincing. They ignore actual facts and counterargument. And they are irreparably smug.
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Waste = Plastic items I used only once, like a straw (switching to no straw or a paper one). Still researching the plastic toothbrush situation. Bamboo sounds nice.themanintheseersuckersuit wrote:If you correctly identified wasteRitterskoop wrote:We are allowed to try to cut down on waste without being labeled hysterical, right?
Not putting a few grocery items in a bag if I am going to just carry them from the car into the house and put them away.
Walking or riding a bike or the light rail instead of using gasoline.
I think if these are choices we make ourselves, and don't lecture other people about them, they do not have to be seen as extreme or arrogant or, you guessed it, hysteria (I never did like this thread title, and it just won't go away - it is the longest epitaph ever). I am not making laws, only choices.
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Key word is choices, in non-identified actually manmade global warming situations.Ritterskoop wrote:Waste = Plastic items I used only once, like a straw (switching to no straw or a paper one). Still researching the plastic toothbrush situation. Bamboo sounds nice.themanintheseersuckersuit wrote:If you correctly identified wasteRitterskoop wrote:We are allowed to try to cut down on waste without being labeled hysterical, right?
Not putting a few grocery items in a bag if I am going to just carry them from the car into the house and put them away.
Walking or riding a bike or the light rail instead of using gasoline.
I think if these are choices we make ourselves, and don't lecture other people about them, they do not have to be seen as extreme or arrogant or, you guessed it, hysteria (I never did like this thread title, and it just won't go away - it is the longest epitaph ever). I am not making laws, only choices.
Well, then
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The thing is, sometimes other people have the power to make choices for us, whether we like it or not. That's when government has to step in and decide whose choices will prevail. And if government doesn't act, that makes the decision for us as well.Beebs52 wrote:Key word is choices, in non-identified actually manmade global warming situations.Ritterskoop wrote:Waste = Plastic items I used only once, like a straw (switching to no straw or a paper one). Still researching the plastic toothbrush situation. Bamboo sounds nice.themanintheseersuckersuit wrote: If you correctly identified waste
Not putting a few grocery items in a bag if I am going to just carry them from the car into the house and put them away.
Walking or riding a bike or the light rail instead of using gasoline.
I think if these are choices we make ourselves, and don't lecture other people about them, they do not have to be seen as extreme or arrogant or, you guessed it, hysteria (I never did like this thread title, and it just won't go away - it is the longest epitaph ever). I am not making laws, only choices.
Here's an example. California just passed a law. I've seen it misdescribed on the Web so I thought I'd clear things up here. Restaurants will be required to stop giving out plastic straws. (There's no law against individuals actually using them, which is the incorrect description I've seen.) The issue isn't so much petroleum usage. It's that way too many of the straws end up in the ocean, where they never break down and end up in the food chain. So restaurants having the choice to give out plastic straws results in my not having the choice to enjoy local seafood that's unaffected by this stuff. --Bob
"Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason than that of blindfolded fear." Thomas Jefferson
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If we all chose to stop using/wasting plastic straws, the government wouldn't need to do anything.
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That's true, but I don't think it's realistic. If the straws are made available, a lot of people will use them. Not necessarily because they have an abiding love for plastic straws, but just because that happens to be what's in front of them. --BobRitterskoop wrote:If we all chose to stop using/wasting plastic straws, the government wouldn't need to do anything.
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The straw in the tortoise was off Costa Rica. Do you control other countries?Bob78164 wrote:That's true, but I don't think it's realistic. If the straws are made available, a lot of people will use them. Not necessarily because they have an abiding love for plastic straws, but just because that happens to be what's in front of them. --BobRitterskoop wrote:If we all chose to stop using/wasting plastic straws, the government wouldn't need to do anything.
Well, then
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California doesn't even control other states. But there's already a lot of plastic crap off the California coast, and I'd like to at least start the process of getting rid of it. In this context, I'm not willing to let the perfect be the enemy of the good. --BobBeebs52 wrote:The straw in the tortoise was off Costa Rica. Do you control other countries?Bob78164 wrote:That's true, but I don't think it's realistic. If the straws are made available, a lot of people will use them. Not necessarily because they have an abiding love for plastic straws, but just because that happens to be what's in front of them. --BobRitterskoop wrote:If we all chose to stop using/wasting plastic straws, the government wouldn't need to do anything.
"Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason than that of blindfolded fear." Thomas Jefferson
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I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be.
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Si fractum non sit, noli id reficere.
Teach a child to be polite and courteous in the home and, when he grows up, he'll never be able to drive in New Jersey.
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Si fractum non sit, noli id reficere.
Teach a child to be polite and courteous in the home and, when he grows up, he'll never be able to drive in New Jersey.
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This one is just for laughs.
There are a couple of reasons for this. Unfortunately, because of the rapidly melting icecaps due to climate change, the sea surface temperatures in the tropical Atlantic are much colder than average. So, all that ice, that literally ice water coming into the Atlantic, keeping things cool. And a developing El Nino may actually increase wind shear, basically, tear apart storms as they come off the coast of Africa— Al Roker
https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/ky ... hurricanes
There are a couple of reasons for this. Unfortunately, because of the rapidly melting icecaps due to climate change, the sea surface temperatures in the tropical Atlantic are much colder than average. So, all that ice, that literally ice water coming into the Atlantic, keeping things cool. And a developing El Nino may actually increase wind shear, basically, tear apart storms as they come off the coast of Africa— Al Roker
https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/ky ... hurricanes
Suitguy is not bitter.
feels he represents the many educated and rational onlookers who believe that the hysterical denouncement of lay scepticism is both unwarranted and counter-productive
The problem, then, is that such calls do not address an opposition audience so much as they signal virtue. They talk past those who need convincing. They ignore actual facts and counterargument. And they are irreparably smug.
feels he represents the many educated and rational onlookers who believe that the hysterical denouncement of lay scepticism is both unwarranted and counter-productive
The problem, then, is that such calls do not address an opposition audience so much as they signal virtue. They talk past those who need convincing. They ignore actual facts and counterargument. And they are irreparably smug.
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Suitguy is not bitter.
feels he represents the many educated and rational onlookers who believe that the hysterical denouncement of lay scepticism is both unwarranted and counter-productive
The problem, then, is that such calls do not address an opposition audience so much as they signal virtue. They talk past those who need convincing. They ignore actual facts and counterargument. And they are irreparably smug.
feels he represents the many educated and rational onlookers who believe that the hysterical denouncement of lay scepticism is both unwarranted and counter-productive
The problem, then, is that such calls do not address an opposition audience so much as they signal virtue. They talk past those who need convincing. They ignore actual facts and counterargument. And they are irreparably smug.
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I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be.
- Douglas Adams (1952 - 2001)
Si fractum non sit, noli id reficere.
Teach a child to be polite and courteous in the home and, when he grows up, he'll never be able to drive in New Jersey.
- Douglas Adams (1952 - 2001)
Si fractum non sit, noli id reficere.
Teach a child to be polite and courteous in the home and, when he grows up, he'll never be able to drive in New Jersey.
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Another moronic lie from BJ.Bob Juch wrote:Carbon Dioxide Is Shriveling Men’s Balls
https://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/ ... ens-balls/
The author of the article posted by the idiot Juch wrote:IMPORTANT NOTE: My readers are mostly liberals, and believe me, I know what you’re thinking. Those are just two straight lines. The fancy Greek letters in the equation just change the slope and offset of one of them. Correlation doesn’t mean causation. And you’ve provided no causal mechanism at all.
Right. I get it. Now STFU. Do you want to fight climate change or not? If you do, there’s no harm in a little white lie that convinces men their balls are shrinking, is there? If you think about it, it’s one of the few things that might actually get a reaction from conservative white guys. So just go along, OK?"
A child of five would understand this. Send someone to fetch a child of five.
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Bob Juch wrote:Carbon Dioxide Is Shriveling Men’s Balls
https://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/ ... ens-balls/





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FUKUSHIMA – A floating wind turbine built off Fukushima Prefecture to symbolize recovery efforts after the 2011 nuclear disaster will be removed, a government source has said.d-turbine-symbol-tohoku-earthquake-recovery-removed/
https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2018/ ... y-removed/
https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2018/ ... y-removed/
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feels he represents the many educated and rational onlookers who believe that the hysterical denouncement of lay scepticism is both unwarranted and counter-productive
The problem, then, is that such calls do not address an opposition audience so much as they signal virtue. They talk past those who need convincing. They ignore actual facts and counterargument. And they are irreparably smug.
feels he represents the many educated and rational onlookers who believe that the hysterical denouncement of lay scepticism is both unwarranted and counter-productive
The problem, then, is that such calls do not address an opposition audience so much as they signal virtue. They talk past those who need convincing. They ignore actual facts and counterargument. And they are irreparably smug.
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https://thinkprogress.org/house-climate ... f7307c191/
Several Republicans who joined the House Climate Solutions Caucus in the run-up to this year’s midterm elections — ... — lost their bids to return to Congress, according to the latest voting results from Tuesday’s midterm elections.
Even the co-founder of the group, Republican Rep. Carlos Curbelo (FL) couldn’t retain his seat in a midterm election that saw Democrats take firm control of the House of Representatives.
Several Republicans who joined the House Climate Solutions Caucus in the run-up to this year’s midterm elections — ... — lost their bids to return to Congress, according to the latest voting results from Tuesday’s midterm elections.
Even the co-founder of the group, Republican Rep. Carlos Curbelo (FL) couldn’t retain his seat in a midterm election that saw Democrats take firm control of the House of Representatives.
Suitguy is not bitter.
feels he represents the many educated and rational onlookers who believe that the hysterical denouncement of lay scepticism is both unwarranted and counter-productive
The problem, then, is that such calls do not address an opposition audience so much as they signal virtue. They talk past those who need convincing. They ignore actual facts and counterargument. And they are irreparably smug.
feels he represents the many educated and rational onlookers who believe that the hysterical denouncement of lay scepticism is both unwarranted and counter-productive
The problem, then, is that such calls do not address an opposition audience so much as they signal virtue. They talk past those who need convincing. They ignore actual facts and counterargument. And they are irreparably smug.
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Yeah he actually said this.
Obama: "Suddenly America is the largest oil producer, that was me people ... say thank you."
Obama: "Suddenly America is the largest oil producer, that was me people ... say thank you."
Suitguy is not bitter.
feels he represents the many educated and rational onlookers who believe that the hysterical denouncement of lay scepticism is both unwarranted and counter-productive
The problem, then, is that such calls do not address an opposition audience so much as they signal virtue. They talk past those who need convincing. They ignore actual facts and counterargument. And they are irreparably smug.
feels he represents the many educated and rational onlookers who believe that the hysterical denouncement of lay scepticism is both unwarranted and counter-productive
The problem, then, is that such calls do not address an opposition audience so much as they signal virtue. They talk past those who need convincing. They ignore actual facts and counterargument. And they are irreparably smug.
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He did play a significant role in reducing the production in many Middle East countries (e.g. Libya).themanintheseersuckersuit wrote:Yeah he actually said this.
Obama: "Suddenly America is the largest oil producer, that was me people ... say thank you."
..what country can preserve it’s liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? let them take arms.
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War is where the government tells you who the bad guy is.
Revolution is when you decide that for yourself.
-- Benjamin Franklin (maybe)
~~ Thomas Jefferson
War is where the government tells you who the bad guy is.
Revolution is when you decide that for yourself.
-- Benjamin Franklin (maybe)
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Dumped on Black Friday. I’m thinking Donny and his enablers were hoping no one would notice. Didn’t work. —Bob
"Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason than that of blindfolded fear." Thomas Jefferson
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Suitguy is not bitter.
feels he represents the many educated and rational onlookers who believe that the hysterical denouncement of lay scepticism is both unwarranted and counter-productive
The problem, then, is that such calls do not address an opposition audience so much as they signal virtue. They talk past those who need convincing. They ignore actual facts and counterargument. And they are irreparably smug.
feels he represents the many educated and rational onlookers who believe that the hysterical denouncement of lay scepticism is both unwarranted and counter-productive
The problem, then, is that such calls do not address an opposition audience so much as they signal virtue. They talk past those who need convincing. They ignore actual facts and counterargument. And they are irreparably smug.
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Re: An Epitaph for Global Warming Hysteria
Suitguy is not bitter.
feels he represents the many educated and rational onlookers who believe that the hysterical denouncement of lay scepticism is both unwarranted and counter-productive
The problem, then, is that such calls do not address an opposition audience so much as they signal virtue. They talk past those who need convincing. They ignore actual facts and counterargument. And they are irreparably smug.
feels he represents the many educated and rational onlookers who believe that the hysterical denouncement of lay scepticism is both unwarranted and counter-productive
The problem, then, is that such calls do not address an opposition audience so much as they signal virtue. They talk past those who need convincing. They ignore actual facts and counterargument. And they are irreparably smug.
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Out of the mouth of a Canadian
Stephen McIntyre
@ClimateAudit
let's give credit where credit is due: as a scientist, Jane Fonda may well rank among the top 1% of US climate scientists.
Stephen McIntyre
@ClimateAudit
let's give credit where credit is due: as a scientist, Jane Fonda may well rank among the top 1% of US climate scientists.
Suitguy is not bitter.
feels he represents the many educated and rational onlookers who believe that the hysterical denouncement of lay scepticism is both unwarranted and counter-productive
The problem, then, is that such calls do not address an opposition audience so much as they signal virtue. They talk past those who need convincing. They ignore actual facts and counterargument. And they are irreparably smug.
feels he represents the many educated and rational onlookers who believe that the hysterical denouncement of lay scepticism is both unwarranted and counter-productive
The problem, then, is that such calls do not address an opposition audience so much as they signal virtue. They talk past those who need convincing. They ignore actual facts and counterargument. And they are irreparably smug.
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Re: An Epitaph for Global Warming Hysteria
Suitguy is not bitter.
feels he represents the many educated and rational onlookers who believe that the hysterical denouncement of lay scepticism is both unwarranted and counter-productive
The problem, then, is that such calls do not address an opposition audience so much as they signal virtue. They talk past those who need convincing. They ignore actual facts and counterargument. And they are irreparably smug.
feels he represents the many educated and rational onlookers who believe that the hysterical denouncement of lay scepticism is both unwarranted and counter-productive
The problem, then, is that such calls do not address an opposition audience so much as they signal virtue. They talk past those who need convincing. They ignore actual facts and counterargument. And they are irreparably smug.
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Re: An Epitaph for Global Warming Hysteria
Suitguy is not bitter.
feels he represents the many educated and rational onlookers who believe that the hysterical denouncement of lay scepticism is both unwarranted and counter-productive
The problem, then, is that such calls do not address an opposition audience so much as they signal virtue. They talk past those who need convincing. They ignore actual facts and counterargument. And they are irreparably smug.
feels he represents the many educated and rational onlookers who believe that the hysterical denouncement of lay scepticism is both unwarranted and counter-productive
The problem, then, is that such calls do not address an opposition audience so much as they signal virtue. They talk past those who need convincing. They ignore actual facts and counterargument. And they are irreparably smug.