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New Amsterdam - The final episode?

#1 Post by MarleysGh0st » Tue Apr 15, 2008 8:03 am

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It'd be an appropriate ending if the series isn't renewed; Amsterdam will just have to keep on searching as he has been for the last four hundred years. I still think that shaman played a huge, cosmic joke on him with the "find the one" thing. Especially with that "I think the one was at the subway station because I became temporarily dead when she walked by."

Although they've made it clear that Amsterdam has been growing as a person and has had issues to work through (e.g. finally joining AA in 1964), I still found it surprising that he had been a con man as recently as the 1920s. And went from that field directly into being a lawyer, it seems. :twisted:

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Re: New Amsterdam - The final episode?

#2 Post by Rexer25 » Tue Apr 15, 2008 8:04 am

MarleysGh0st wrote:
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It'd be an appropriate ending if the series isn't renewed; Amsterdam will just have to keep on searching as he has been for the last four hundred years. I still think that shaman played a huge, cosmic joke on him with the "find the one" thing. Especially with that "I think the one was at the subway station because I became temporarily dead when she walked by."

Although they've made it clear that Amsterdam has been growing as a person and has had issues to work through (e.g. finally joining AA in 1964), I still found it surprising that he had been a con man as recently as the 1920s. And went from that field directly into being a lawyer, it seems. :twisted:
[Obligatory lawyer joke]I thought that was a natural progression.[/OLJ]
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#3 Post by silverscreenselect » Tue Apr 15, 2008 9:04 am

If, and it's a bit of a stretch to assume there's an if, the show returns, my hunch is that "the one" will be a female version of himself, a woman who's been around for a long time looking for the right man.

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#4 Post by MarleysGh0st » Tue Apr 15, 2008 9:15 am

silverscreenselect wrote:If, and it's a bit of a stretch to assume there's an if, the show returns, my hunch is that "the one" will be a female version of himself, a woman who's been around for a long time looking for the right man.
At least that would give them both lots of time to find each other. Otherwise, if there is only one who can be "the one" and no one else ever was or ever will be "the one" again, those are awfully discouraging odds. She might have been one of the other people on that subway platform and he still might never find her again, even with his police sources and his internet searches that find far more than anyone else can find online...

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#5 Post by earendel » Tue Apr 15, 2008 9:48 am

MarleysGh0st wrote:
silverscreenselect wrote:If, and it's a bit of a stretch to assume there's an if, the show returns, my hunch is that "the one" will be a female version of himself, a woman who's been around for a long time looking for the right man.
At least that would give them both lots of time to find each other. Otherwise, if there is only one who can be "the one" and no one else ever was or ever will be "the one" again, those are awfully discouraging odds. She might have been one of the other people on that subway platform and he still might never find her again, even with his police sources and his internet searches that find far more than anyone else can find online...
First, the comment on last night's episode...
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I agree with Marley that it seems as if Amsterdam has grown during his various "incarnations" but to have been a grifter at such a relatively late stage seems a little out of character. The "long con" was easy to see, and quite frankly I'm surprised that the suspect fell for it, but that's series TV. I also somehow missed the "love connection" between the dead woman and the roommate, but then again I was solo sitting my grandson and he was needing a change during the show.
Now the rest of the story...

Will there be a new season? The Sci-Fi Channel Web site says it's "on the bubble" for renewal. I haven't heard much about the ratings, but it's been up against some stiff competition from the CBS comedies and Deal or No Deal, so there may not be much hope. I'd like to see it return, but if it doesn't, I think the ending was satisfying enough. SSS makes a good point - perhaps John's "one" is someone else like him.[/spoiler]
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#6 Post by tanstaafl2 » Tue Apr 15, 2008 11:30 am

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I can "suspend disbelief", or whatever the appropriate saying was, about his immortality and even his ability to pull off his many and varied careers.

But it seems impossible he can do some of the things he does, know what he knows, say some of the things he says and be relatively cavalier about it all and not get people more suspicious about who he really is.

I suppose it is just a construct for the plot of a 40 minute TV show. But if I had been the Doc for example and I had watched this guy rise from the dead, not once, but twice AND apparently heal a bullet wound through the heart and be up and running at full speed in a matter of a week or two then when he claimed to be immortal I might at least get a little suspicious!

And if he really wanted to convince her he was who he said it would seem easy enough to do with some of his collected artifacts, pictures and the like, not to mention his ever present 60 year old son.

Of course by the end maybe he didn't want to prove it to her since he was still fixated on finding "the one".

I guess I would still like to see it come back. Which means it has almost no chance to do so. But I still think of the two I would prefer "Journeyman" to have gotten a longer shot at building a following.

Meanwhile a show as poorly acted and silly as "Moonlight" appears to have survived as I note new episodes are returning soon. I presume they wouldn't keep making new ones after the strike unless they expected it to be picked up for next year.
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#7 Post by earendel » Tue Apr 15, 2008 11:33 am

tanstaafl2 wrote:
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But it seems impossible he can do some of the things he does, know what he knows, say some of the things he says and be relatively cavalier about it all and not get people more suspicious about who he really is.

I suppose it is just a construct for the plot of a 40 minute TV show. But if I had been the Doc for example and I had watched this guy rise from the dead, not once, but twice AND apparently heal a bullet wound through the heart and be up and running at full speed in a matter of a week or two then when he claimed to be immortal I might at least get a little suspicious!

And if he really wanted to convince her he was who he said it would seem easy enough to do with some of his collected artifacts, pictures and the like, not to mention his ever present 60 year old son.

Of course by the end maybe he didn't want to prove it to her since he was still fixated on finding "the one".
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Well, he did try to tell her about Omar but she didn't believe him, any more than she believed anything else he said despite his coming back from the dead twice. I don't know why he didn't show her his collection of souvenirs from the past - newspaper clippings, photos, etc.
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#8 Post by MarleysGh0st » Tue Apr 15, 2008 11:43 am

earendel wrote:
tanstaafl2 wrote:
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But it seems impossible he can do some of the things he does, know what he knows, say some of the things he says and be relatively cavalier about it all and not get people more suspicious about who he really is.

I suppose it is just a construct for the plot of a 40 minute TV show. But if I had been the Doc for example and I had watched this guy rise from the dead, not once, but twice AND apparently heal a bullet wound through the heart and be up and running at full speed in a matter of a week or two then when he claimed to be immortal I might at least get a little suspicious!

And if he really wanted to convince her he was who he said it would seem easy enough to do with some of his collected artifacts, pictures and the like, not to mention his ever present 60 year old son.

Of course by the end maybe he didn't want to prove it to her since he was still fixated on finding "the one".
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Well, he did try to tell her about Omar but she didn't believe him, any more than she believed anything else he said despite his coming back from the dead twice. I don't know why he didn't show her his collection of souvenirs from the past - newspaper clippings, photos, etc.
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When they didn't show us an explicit scene of Amsterdam rising from the dead after the shooting, I thought the show was pulling a fast one on us and that he had simply not suffered a wound beyond the capability of emergency medicine to save him. But with what they said this week--has anyone ever been saved after a bullet perforates the heart? :shock:

And since this was the second medical impossibility the doctor has witnessed, yeah, she shouldn't have let the mystery slide with some casual speculation about his special stem cells or some such thing.

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#9 Post by AnnieCamaro » Tue Apr 15, 2008 11:51 am

MarleysGh0st wrote:
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And since this was the second medical impossibility the doctor has witnessed, yeah, she shouldn't have let the mystery slide with some casual speculation about his special stem cells or some such thing.
What's the big deal? I survive medical impossibilities all the time.

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#10 Post by MarleysGh0st » Tue Apr 15, 2008 11:58 am

AnnieCamaro wrote:
MarleysGh0st wrote:
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And since this was the second medical impossibility the doctor has witnessed, yeah, she shouldn't have let the mystery slide with some casual speculation about his special stem cells or some such thing.
What's the big deal? I survive medical impossibilities all the time.

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Maybe you're "the one", Annie! :D

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#11 Post by peacock2121 » Tue Apr 15, 2008 12:08 pm

I don't want it to be the last one.

Although, I think I have at least 3 more to see.

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#12 Post by earendel » Tue Apr 15, 2008 12:18 pm

MarleysGh0st wrote:
AnnieCamaro wrote:
MarleysGh0st wrote:
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And since this was the second medical impossibility the doctor has witnessed, yeah, she shouldn't have let the mystery slide with some casual speculation about his special stem cells or some such thing.
What's the big deal? I survive medical impossibilities all the time.

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Maybe you're "the one", Annie! :D
Could be - John keeps choosing the same kind of dog. The current one's name is "Thirty-eight". Maybe subconsciously he knows that his "one" is a four-footer.
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#13 Post by MarleysGh0st » Tue Apr 15, 2008 12:23 pm

earendel wrote:
MarleysGh0st wrote:
AnnieCamaro wrote: What's the big deal? I survive medical impossibilities all the time.

/:P\
Maybe you're "the one", Annie! :D
Could be - John keeps choosing the same kind of dog. The current one's name is "Thirty-eight". Maybe subconsciously he knows that his "one" is a four-footer.
Sure, it all makes sense! Do you think that Lenape woman was speaking perfect Dutch to him? When he got confused by all that mumbo-jumbo he thought he heard about "the one", all she was really trying to tell him was "Get a dog!" 8)

But he does need to try different breeds instead of the Rottweilers.

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#14 Post by ghostjmf » Sun Apr 20, 2008 4:28 pm

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Much as I like this show as a guilty pleasure, it didn't make much sense to me, in the episode (last we've seen?) wherein his gun is taken away by his boss, so he goes after the perp with his own pet dog, that he wouldn't have loosed the dog on the guy long before he did. In fact, in the running scenes the dog was behind him; no self-respecting normal dog would let a human appear to outrun them, but a trained "show dog" would.

Either that or this dog has been watching too much "dog whisperer" (Mr. Whisperer says that no-one should let their dog lead them).

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