You have no idea they were 'shackled.' It didn't go your way, so obvs, it's flawed.Bob78164 wrote:All we know is that the White House didn't want it to happen. We have no idea what the FBI would have done with the shackles off. --Bobtlynn78 wrote:Clearly they don't think so. Maybe you could advise them.silverscreenselect wrote:
Gee, I don't know, maybe because they are trained interrogators who know how to follow up on lines of questioning and get around evasive non-answers. I guess this means they don't need to question any potential witnesses to any crime as long as that witness had already made a statement about the crime.
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We've been hearing throughout the process that they were shackled. If the Republicans want to prove me wrong, all they need to do is make the report public. Then we can all see for ourselves. They're hiding it because they want to hide what they did.tlynn78 wrote:You have no idea they were 'shackled.' It didn't go your way, so obvs, it's flawed.Bob78164 wrote:All we know is that the White House didn't want it to happen. We have no idea what the FBI would have done with the shackles off. --Bobtlynn78 wrote:
Clearly they don't think so. Maybe you could advise them.
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"We've been hearing..." Did you hear that from the report authors?Bob78164 wrote:We've been hearing throughout the process that they were shackled. If the Republicans want to prove me wrong, all they need to do is make the report public. Then we can all see for ourselves. They're hiding it because they want to hide what they did.tlynn78 wrote:You have no idea they were 'shackled.' It didn't go your way, so obvs, it's flawed.Bob78164 wrote:All we know is that the White House didn't want it to happen. We have no idea what the FBI would have done with the shackles off. --Bob
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Good for you.Bob78164 wrote:So has a retired Justice. --Bob
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From Time magazine. Among other sources.tlynn78 wrote:"We've been hearing..." Did you hear that from the report authors?Bob78164 wrote:We've been hearing throughout the process that they were shackled. If the Republicans want to prove me wrong, all they need to do is make the report public. Then we can all see for ourselves. They're hiding it because they want to hide what they did.tlynn78 wrote:
You have no idea they were 'shackled.' It didn't go your way, so obvs, it's flawed.
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Prove me wrong. Don't forget to cite the pages of the report supporting your position when you do so. --Bob
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Cite this, sweetie. I don't have to prove anything to you, and neither does Kavanaugh.Bob78164 wrote:From Time magazine. Among other sources.tlynn78 wrote:"We've been hearing..." Did you hear that from the report authors?Bob78164 wrote:We've been hearing throughout the process that they were shackled. If the Republicans want to prove me wrong, all they need to do is make the report public. Then we can all see for ourselves. They're hiding it because they want to hide what they did.
They may get away with it for the moment. But not forever. --Bob
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Not until the House Judiciary Committee uses its subpoena power to begin a real investigation. Which should be the first order of business on January 3. In the meantime, anyone who thinks this farce of an investigation was inadequate should vote Democratic. Because otherwise Republicans, spurred on by their primary voters (the only ones most Congressional Republicans are actually worried about) will continue to hide the truth from the American people, and we deserve better. --Bobtlynn78 wrote:Cite this, sweetie. I don't have to prove anything to you, and neither does Kavanaugh.Bob78164 wrote:From Time magazine. Among other sources.tlynn78 wrote:
"We've been hearing..." Did you hear that from the report authors?
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Righteous! Rock on dude.Bob78164 wrote:Not until the House Judiciary Committee uses its subpoena power to begin a real investigation. Which should be the first order of business on January 3. In the meantime, anyone who thinks this farce of an investigation was inadequate should vote Democratic. Because otherwise Republicans, spurred on by their primary voters (the only ones most Congressional Republicans are actually worried about) will continue to hide the truth from the American people, and we deserve better. --Bobtlynn78 wrote:Cite this, sweetie. I don't have to prove anything to you, and neither does Kavanaugh.Bob78164 wrote:From Time magazine. Among other sources.
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I got a-plenty. But it does no good. 'Cause you'll trot out hannity for the 1,000,000the stupid time.silverscreenselect wrote:A sure sign that Flock has no way to respond to a thread is when he trots out his Jon Ossoff shtick for the 100th unfunny time.flockofseagulls104 wrote: And Jon Ossoff will be appointed Minister of the Good and Holy.
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LOL - good thing the Dems are so straightforward. I mean.Beebs52 wrote:Righteous! Rock on dude.Bob78164 wrote:Not until the House Judiciary Committee uses its subpoena power to begin a real investigation. Which should be the first order of business on January 3. In the meantime, anyone who thinks this farce of an investigation was inadequate should vote Democratic. Because otherwise Republicans, spurred on by their primary voters (the only ones most Congressional Republicans are actually worried about) will continue to hide the truth from the American people, and we deserve better. --Bobtlynn78 wrote:
Cite this, sweetie. I don't have to prove anything to you, and neither does Kavanaugh.
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Wear flowers in your hair. It makes all revolutions sparklier.tlynn78 wrote:LOL - good thing the Dems are so straightforward. I mean.Beebs52 wrote:Righteous! Rock on dude.Bob78164 wrote:Not until the House Judiciary Committee uses its subpoena power to begin a real investigation. Which should be the first order of business on January 3. In the meantime, anyone who thinks this farce of an investigation was inadequate should vote Democratic. Because otherwise Republicans, spurred on by their primary voters (the only ones most Congressional Republicans are actually worried about) will continue to hide the truth from the American people, and we deserve better. --Bob
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The REAL investigation is why Feinstein hid the letter for 2 months while setting Ford up with a completely democrat controlled partisan lawyer, and had it leaked to delay the nomination.Bob78164 wrote:Not until the House Judiciary Committee uses its subpoena power to begin a real investigation. Which should be the first order of business on January 3. In the meantime, anyone who thinks this farce of an investigation was inadequate should vote Democratic. Because otherwise Republicans, spurred on by their primary voters (the only ones most Congressional Republicans are actually worried about) will continue to hide the truth from the American people, and we deserve better. --Bobtlynn78 wrote:Cite this, sweetie. I don't have to prove anything to you, and neither does Kavanaugh.Bob78164 wrote:From Time magazine. Among other sources.
Prove me wrong. Don't forget to cite the pages of the report supporting your position when you do so. --Bob
bob-tel, the guy has had 7 FBI investigations into his background. The first one was right after college. He didn't have trump to shield him then. There were no shackles. (Is that a batphone word? I'll see if I hear it 50 times on the news tonite). If he had ANY history of being a slobbering sex crazed drunk, I think the FBI, unless they are totally incompetent, would have reported it.
The guy has served in several high profile, very sensitive positions since then. The vast majority, if not all, of the people who actually know him and worked with him have publically endorsed him and defended him against this accusation. As far as I know there has not been a hint of any questionable personal behavior against him until a couple weeks ago, and now he is a suddenly a degenerate reprobate.
How many background checks has Dr. Ford had? BJ (I think) has found a questionable list from a questionable source of 31 'lies' of Kavanaugh. There are many inconsistencies in Dr. Ford's testimony. I would make a list, but you will ignore them as we go forward, so why bother?
One of these people is lying or is misremembering. I don't doubt Dr. Ford had something happen to her. But, for what it's worth, and it's not worth much, since I have no say in anything, I don't think it was Kavanaugh.
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Won't happen. They'll be too busy trying to find something to impeach trump for.Bob78164 wrote:Not until the House Judiciary Committee uses its subpoena power to begin a real investigation. Which should be the first order of business on January 3. In the meantime, anyone who thinks this farce of an investigation was inadequate should vote Democratic. Because otherwise Republicans, spurred on by their primary voters (the only ones most Congressional Republicans are actually worried about) will continue to hide the truth from the American people, and we deserve better. --Bobtlynn78 wrote:Cite this, sweetie. I don't have to prove anything to you, and neither does Kavanaugh.Bob78164 wrote:From Time magazine. Among other sources.
Prove me wrong. Don't forget to cite the pages of the report supporting your position when you do so. --Bob
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With the exception of a handful of hotheads, impeaching Trump is not on the radar screen for most Democrats. Certainly not like the ones who keep yelling "lock her up" at the Trump rallies.flockofseagulls104 wrote: They'll be too busy trying to find something to impeach trump for.
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How many people attacked Al Franken for misconduct before the roof started caving in on him? How about Eliot Spitzer? Eric Schneiderman? Anthony Weiner?flockofseagulls104 wrote:The REAL investigation is why Feinstein hid the letter for 2 months while setting Ford up with a completely democrat controlled partisan lawyer, and had it leaked to delay the nomination.Bob78164 wrote:Not until the House Judiciary Committee uses its subpoena power to begin a real investigation. Which should be the first order of business on January 3. In the meantime, anyone who thinks this farce of an investigation was inadequate should vote Democratic. Because otherwise Republicans, spurred on by their primary voters (the only ones most Congressional Republicans are actually worried about) will continue to hide the truth from the American people, and we deserve better. --Bobtlynn78 wrote:
Cite this, sweetie. I don't have to prove anything to you, and neither does Kavanaugh.
bob-tel, the guy has had 7 FBI investigations into his background. The first one was right after college. He didn't have trump to shield him then. There were no shackles. (Is that a batphone word? I'll see if I hear it 50 times on the news tonite). If he had ANY history of being a slobbering sex crazed drunk, I think the FBI, unless they are totally incompetent, would have reported it.
The guy has served in several high profile, very sensitive positions since then. The vast majority, if not all, of the people who actually know him and worked with him have publically endorsed him and defended him against this accusation. As far as I know there has not been a hint of any questionable personal behavior against him until a couple weeks ago, and now he is a suddenly a degenerate reprobate.
How many background checks has Dr. Ford had? BJ (I think) has found a questionable list from a questionable source of 31 'lies' of Kavanaugh. There are many inconsistencies in Dr. Ford's testimony. I would make a list, but you will ignore them as we go forward, so why bother?
One of these people is lying or is misremembering. I don't doubt Dr. Ford had something happen to her. But, for what it's worth, and it's not worth much, since I have no say in anything, I don't think it was Kavanaugh.
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The big difference here is that federally elected Democrats are calling for impeachment while it is the rally mob everymen yelling 'lock her up'.silverscreenselect wrote:With the exception of a handful of hotheads, impeaching Trump is not on the radar screen for most Democrats. Certainly not like the ones who keep yelling "lock her up" at the Trump rallies.flockofseagulls104 wrote: They'll be too busy trying to find something to impeach trump for.
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There's plenty out there that's worth investigating. But Congressional Republicans have their eyes firmly closed and their ears firmly plugged up. We'll see whether that lasts once a real investigation is under way. --BobBackInTex wrote:The big difference here is that federally elected Democrats are calling for impeachment while it is the rally mob everymen yelling 'lock her up'.silverscreenselect wrote:With the exception of a handful of hotheads, impeaching Trump is not on the radar screen for most Democrats. Certainly not like the ones who keep yelling "lock her up" at the Trump rallies.flockofseagulls104 wrote: They'll be too busy trying to find something to impeach trump for.
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Leaving aside the fact that the Democrats dispute that there were no red flags raised in Kavanaugh's earlier background checks, the fact remains that we have one highly relevant piece of data now that the other six background checks could not have known about, namely Kavanaugh's overall temperament and demeanor and the statements that he made under oath, many of which have been contradicted or shown to be flat out lies. That more than anything is what caused Justice Stevens to change his mind about Kavanaugh.flockofseagulls104 wrote:
bob-tel, the guy has had 7 FBI investigations into his background. The first one was right after college. He didn't have trump to shield him then.
https://www.mypalmbeachpost.com/news/re ... CimtNxpjJ/Stevens, a lifelong Republican who is known for falling on the liberal side of several judicial rulings, praised Kavanaugh and one of his rulings on a political contribution case in the 2014 book “Six Amendments: How and Why We Should Change the Constitution.” At that time, I thought (Kavanaugh) had the qualifications for the Supreme Court should he be selected,” Stevens said. “I’ve changed my views for reasons that have no relationship to his intellectual ability … I feel his performance in the hearings ultimately changed my mind.”
Commentators, Stevens said, have argued that Kavanaugh’s blistering testimony during a Sept. 27 hearing on sexual misconduct allegations demonstrated a potential for political bias should he serve on the Supreme Court. “I think there’s merit to that criticism and I think the senators should really pay attention that,” Stevens said
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There was specific evidence against Franken, Spitzer and especially Weiner. I don't know about Schneiderman, never heard of him.Bob78164 wrote:How many people attacked Al Franken for misconduct before the roof started caving in on him? How about Eliot Spitzer? Eric Schneiderman? Anthony Weiner?flockofseagulls104 wrote:The REAL investigation is why Feinstein hid the letter for 2 months while setting Ford up with a completely democrat controlled partisan lawyer, and had it leaked to delay the nomination.Bob78164 wrote:Not until the House Judiciary Committee uses its subpoena power to begin a real investigation. Which should be the first order of business on January 3. In the meantime, anyone who thinks this farce of an investigation was inadequate should vote Democratic. Because otherwise Republicans, spurred on by their primary voters (the only ones most Congressional Republicans are actually worried about) will continue to hide the truth from the American people, and we deserve better. --Bob
bob-tel, the guy has had 7 FBI investigations into his background. The first one was right after college. He didn't have trump to shield him then. There were no shackles. (Is that a batphone word? I'll see if I hear it 50 times on the news tonite). If he had ANY history of being a slobbering sex crazed drunk, I think the FBI, unless they are totally incompetent, would have reported it.
The guy has served in several high profile, very sensitive positions since then. The vast majority, if not all, of the people who actually know him and worked with him have publically endorsed him and defended him against this accusation. As far as I know there has not been a hint of any questionable personal behavior against him until a couple weeks ago, and now he is a suddenly a degenerate reprobate.
How many background checks has Dr. Ford had? BJ (I think) has found a questionable list from a questionable source of 31 'lies' of Kavanaugh. There are many inconsistencies in Dr. Ford's testimony. I would make a list, but you will ignore them as we go forward, so why bother?
One of these people is lying or is misremembering. I don't doubt Dr. Ford had something happen to her. But, for what it's worth, and it's not worth much, since I have no say in anything, I don't think it was Kavanaugh.
The absence of prior accusations doesn't prove a damn thing. --Bob
No specific evidence against Kavanaugh, only an accusation. Show me the blue dress, bob-tel.
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Eyewitness testimony from the victim is specific evidence. And we need a real FBI investigation, not this apparent sham, to know with any confidence whether corroboration exists. --Bobflockofseagulls104 wrote:There was specific evidence against Franken, Spitzer and especially Weiner. I don't know about Schneiderman, never heard of him.Bob78164 wrote:How many people attacked Al Franken for misconduct before the roof started caving in on him? How about Eliot Spitzer? Eric Schneiderman? Anthony Weiner?flockofseagulls104 wrote:
The REAL investigation is why Feinstein hid the letter for 2 months while setting Ford up with a completely democrat controlled partisan lawyer, and had it leaked to delay the nomination.
bob-tel, the guy has had 7 FBI investigations into his background. The first one was right after college. He didn't have trump to shield him then. There were no shackles. (Is that a batphone word? I'll see if I hear it 50 times on the news tonite). If he had ANY history of being a slobbering sex crazed drunk, I think the FBI, unless they are totally incompetent, would have reported it.
The guy has served in several high profile, very sensitive positions since then. The vast majority, if not all, of the people who actually know him and worked with him have publically endorsed him and defended him against this accusation. As far as I know there has not been a hint of any questionable personal behavior against him until a couple weeks ago, and now he is a suddenly a degenerate reprobate.
How many background checks has Dr. Ford had? BJ (I think) has found a questionable list from a questionable source of 31 'lies' of Kavanaugh. There are many inconsistencies in Dr. Ford's testimony. I would make a list, but you will ignore them as we go forward, so why bother?
One of these people is lying or is misremembering. I don't doubt Dr. Ford had something happen to her. But, for what it's worth, and it's not worth much, since I have no say in anything, I don't think it was Kavanaugh.
The absence of prior accusations doesn't prove a damn thing. --Bob
No specific evidence against Kavanaugh, only an accusation. Show me the blue dress, bob-tel.
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Shamalamadingdong.Bob78164 wrote:Eyewitness testimony from the victim is specific evidence. And we need a real FBI investigation, not this apparent sham, to know with any confidence whether corroboration exists. --Bobflockofseagulls104 wrote:There was specific evidence against Franken, Spitzer and especially Weiner. I don't know about Schneiderman, never heard of him.Bob78164 wrote:How many people attacked Al Franken for misconduct before the roof started caving in on him? How about Eliot Spitzer? Eric Schneiderman? Anthony Weiner?
The absence of prior accusations doesn't prove a damn thing. --Bob
No specific evidence against Kavanaugh, only an accusation. Show me the blue dress, bob-tel.
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Umm, the witnesses SHE NAMED failed to corroborate any part of her accusations. What makes you think any other corroboration exists?Bob78164 wrote:Eyewitness testimony from the victim is specific evidence. And we need a real FBI investigation, not this apparent sham, to know with any confidence whether corroboration exists.flockofseagulls104 wrote:There was specific evidence against Franken, Spitzer and especially Weiner. I don't know about Schneiderman, never heard of him.Bob78164 wrote:How many people attacked Al Franken for misconduct before the roof started caving in on him? How about Eliot Spitzer? Eric Schneiderman? Anthony Weiner?
The absence of prior accusations doesn't prove a damn thing.
No specific evidence against Kavanaugh, only an accusation. Show me the blue dress, bob-tel.
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Those are the witnesses she believed to be at the party. A thorough investigation would have pinned down the date of the party. A thorough investigation would have talked to her friends -- maybe one of them helped her home, or saw her on her way home. A thorough investigation would have sought to determine whether this group of people was in the habit of using "Killer Qs" to spike drinks. A thorough investigation would have walked her through her memory of the event, repeatedly, in as much detail as possible, in an effort to unearth details that could be used to corroborate or discredit the account. Did she hear about the party from a friend? What, if anything, does that friend remember? A thorough investigation would have followed up with the potential witness who said people knew contemporaneously that something had happened. As far as I know, the FBI made no effort to speak to her. A thorough investigation would have walked Kavanaugh through his memory of the appropriate party, in as much detail as possible, to determine whether he was out of public view for an extended length of time, to determine whether he got drunk at that party, to confirm whether Dr. Blasey Ford was at the party.Estonut wrote:Umm, the witnesses SHE NAMED failed to corroborate any part of her accusations. What makes you think any other corroboration exists?Bob78164 wrote:Eyewitness testimony from the victim is specific evidence. And we need a real FBI investigation, not this apparent sham, to know with any confidence whether corroboration exists.flockofseagulls104 wrote:There was specific evidence against Franken, Spitzer and especially Weiner. I don't know about Schneiderman, never heard of him.
No specific evidence against Kavanaugh, only an accusation. Show me the blue dress, bob-tel.
There's a lot the FBI could have done, and that (using subpoena power) the House Judiciary Committee will be able to do, to get at the truth. Senate Republicans and the White House decided instead to rely on raw power politics. They may have the votes, at least for now. But when you rely on pure power politics to accomplish your goals, with no hint of principle behind them, you don't get to complain when the tables turn and the other side uses every tool available to them to bulldoze you. That includes impeachment power. It includes increasing the size of the Court. It includes controlling the Court's jurisdiction. And I'm sure it includes a bunch of other tactics I haven't yet thought of. --Bob
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Re: Flake Has an Out if He Wants
It exists in Bob's head, and dammit, that should be enough.Estonut wrote:Umm, the witnesses SHE NAMED failed to corroborate any part of her accusations. What makes you think any other corroboration exists?Bob78164 wrote:Eyewitness testimony from the victim is specific evidence. And we need a real FBI investigation, not this apparent sham, to know with any confidence whether corroboration exists.flockofseagulls104 wrote:There was specific evidence against Franken, Spitzer and especially Weiner. I don't know about Schneiderman, never heard of him.
No specific evidence against Kavanaugh, only an accusation. Show me the blue dress, bob-tel.
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Re: Flake Has an Out if He Wants
I hope Kavanaugh gets confirmed. That will ensure a Democrat takeover of both the House and Senate. He'll get impeached along with trump.
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Si fractum non sit, noli id reficere.
Teach a child to be polite and courteous in the home and, when he grows up, he'll never be able to drive in New Jersey.
- Douglas Adams (1952 - 2001)
Si fractum non sit, noli id reficere.
Teach a child to be polite and courteous in the home and, when he grows up, he'll never be able to drive in New Jersey.