Justice Kennedy to retire
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Justice Kennedy to retire
Ooooh boy! Here it comes..... Can the left go more insane than they already are?
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Not good news. The question will be whether Democrats can persuade one of the handful of more moderate Republican senators to hold the line against a hard right Trump choice. (I don't think McCain will be voting on any Supreme Court picks, so the Republicans would need all 50 of the other Republicans to go along). Somwhere, among Collins, Murkowski, Flake, and Corker there may be a bit of a conscience.flockofseagulls104 wrote:Ooooh boy! Here it comes..... Can the left go more insane than they already are?
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I would think he would nominate a swing votey sort like Kennedy.
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Your mindset, along with most of the media, Maxine Waters, and the folks who can't allow someone with differing political views each lunch in peace are the reason Republicans will win in the fall, and in 2020.silverscreenselect wrote:Somwhere, among Collins, Murkowski, Flake, and Corker there may be a bit of a conscience.flockofseagulls104 wrote:Ooooh boy! Here it comes..... Can the left go more insane than they already are?
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I would be very pleasantly surprised if that happens. I expect Donny to nominate another hard right ideologue like Gorsuch. --BobBeebs52 wrote:I would think he would nominate a swing votey sort like Kennedy.
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I feel sorry for anyone who is nominated. The SJW nazis on the left will hound him or her every second of the day, now that Maxine Waters has endorsed that behavior. Do you enjoy being part of that bob-tel? Tell me how you condemn those tactics and how you will do everything in your power to stop it.Bob78164 wrote:I would be very pleasantly surprised if that happens. I expect Donny to nominate another hard right ideologue like Gorsuch. --BobBeebs52 wrote:I would think he would nominate a swing votey sort like Kennedy.
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I guess hard right ideology doesn't allow for this?Bob78164 wrote:I would be very pleasantly surprised if that happens. I expect Donny to nominate another hard right ideologue like Gorsuch. --BobBeebs52 wrote:I would think he would nominate a swing votey sort like Kennedy.
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I do agree that from time to time he'll be willing to depart from other conservatives, probably by insisting on narrow interpretations of criminal statutes and perhaps even by expanding Fourth Amendment protections. But on the cases that will make a real difference in the lives of tens of millions of Americans, I think he'll prove to be a very reliable conservative vote. --BobBeebs52 wrote:I guess hard right ideology doesn't allow for this?Bob78164 wrote:I would be very pleasantly surprised if that happens. I expect Donny to nominate another hard right ideologue like Gorsuch. --BobBeebs52 wrote:I would think he would nominate a swing votey sort like Kennedy.
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I predict that on the first Monday in October the court will have eight members.silverscreenselect wrote:Not good news. The question will be whether Democrats can persuade one of the handful of more moderate Republican senators to hold the line against a hard right Trump choice. (I don't think McCain will be voting on any Supreme Court picks, so the Republicans would need all 50 of the other Republicans to go along). Somwhere, among Collins, Murkowski, Flake, and Corker there may be a bit of a conscience.flockofseagulls104 wrote:Ooooh boy! Here it comes..... Can the left go more insane than they already are?
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Certainly, if he protects the lives of tens of millions of babies, they will consider that a real difference.Bob78164 wrote:I do agree that from time to time he'll be willing to depart from other conservatives, probably by insisting on narrow interpretations of criminal statutes and perhaps even by expanding Fourth Amendment protections. But on the cases that will make a real difference in the lives of tens of millions of Americans, I think he'll prove to be a very reliable conservative vote. --BobBeebs52 wrote:I guess hard right ideology doesn't allow for this?Bob78164 wrote:I would be very pleasantly surprised if that happens. I expect Donny to nominate another hard right ideologue like Gorsuch. --Bob
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How would he protect the lives of millions of babies? Something to do with universal healthcare or food stamps?Appa23 wrote:Certainly, if he protects the lives of tens of millions of babies, they will consider that a real difference.Bob78164 wrote:I do agree that from time to time he'll be willing to depart from other conservatives, probably by insisting on narrow interpretations of criminal statutes and perhaps even by expanding Fourth Amendment protections. But on the cases that will make a real difference in the lives of tens of millions of Americans, I think he'll prove to be a very reliable conservative vote. --BobBeebs52 wrote:
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You mean like this person:flockofseagulls104 wrote: Can the left go more insane than they already are?
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lol - So he's a hard right ideologue, except when he's not. Got it.Bob78164 wrote:I do agree that from time to time he'll be willing to depart from other conservatives, probably by insisting on narrow interpretations of criminal statutes and perhaps even by expanding Fourth Amendment protections. But on the cases that will make a real difference in the lives of tens of millions of Americans, I think he'll prove to be a very reliable conservative vote. --BobBeebs52 wrote:I guess hard right ideology doesn't allow for this?Bob78164 wrote:I would be very pleasantly surprised if that happens. I expect Donny to nominate another hard right ideologue like Gorsuch. --Bob
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tlynn78 wrote:lol - So he's a hard right ideologue, except when he's not. Got it.Bob78164 wrote:I do agree that from time to time he'll be willing to depart from other conservatives, probably by insisting on narrow interpretations of criminal statutes and perhaps even by expanding Fourth Amendment protections. But on the cases that will make a real difference in the lives of tens of millions of Americans, I think he'll prove to be a very reliable conservative vote. --BobBeebs52 wrote:
I guess hard right ideology doesn't allow for this?
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No, it means that he has his idiosyncrasies, the same as every judge.tlynn78 wrote:lol - So he's a hard right ideologue, except when he's not. Got it.
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If he is like every judge, why the negativity? Oh wait, because of who appointed him. I see.silverscreenselect wrote:No, it means that he has his idiosyncrasies, the same as every judge.tlynn78 wrote:lol - So he's a hard right ideologue, except when he's not. Got it.
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Justice Kennedy’s announcement overshadowed two other Washington retirements. House Democratic leader Joe Crowley was primaried by a 28-year-old upstart. And former Nationals star Jayson Werth (who got a World Series ring with the 2008 Phillies) announced that this is his final season in baseball.
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It's not just who appointed him; it's how he got appointed, by Mitch McConnell refusing to hold hearings on Merrick Garland until after the election. Funny that this time around, he's real anxious to hold hearings on this new justice before the next election.BackInTex wrote: If he is like every judge, why the negativity? Oh wait, because of who appointed him. I see.
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We've been through this before. The fact is that even if hearings had been held, he never would have gotten confirmed. So why waste the time and money going through the motions? It is a non-argument, and don't even try to tell me the dems wouldn't have done the same thing if the situation was reversed.silverscreenselect wrote:It's not just who appointed him; it's how he got appointed, by Mitch McConnell refusing to hold hearings on Merrick Garland until after the election. Funny that this time around, he's real anxious to hold hearings on this new justice before the next election.BackInTex wrote: If he is like every judge, why the negativity? Oh wait, because of who appointed him. I see.
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Exactly.BackInTex wrote:If he is like every judge, why the negativity? Oh wait, because of who appointed him. I see.silverscreenselect wrote:No, it means that he has his idiosyncrasies, the same as every judge.tlynn78 wrote:lol - So he's a hard right ideologue, except when he's not. Got it.
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Yes, he would have. There were a number of vulnerable Republican Senators who did not want to vote on the record not to confirm him.flockofseagulls104 wrote:We've been through this before. The fact is that even if hearings had been held, he never would have gotten confirmed. So why waste the time and money going through the motions? It is a non-argument, and don't even try to tell me the dems wouldn't have done the same thing if the situation was reversed.silverscreenselect wrote:It's not just who appointed him; it's how he got appointed, by Mitch McConnell refusing to hold hearings on Merrick Garland until after the election. Funny that this time around, he's real anxious to hold hearings on this new justice before the next election.BackInTex wrote: If he is like every judge, why the negativity? Oh wait, because of who appointed him. I see.
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An article in Slate.com (admittedly a left-leaning publication) says that Kennedy's retirement just made efforts by Democrats to retake the Senate much harder - the opportunity for the president to nominate another justice will motivate the Republican base; the Democrats need to win one of three red states believed to be in play (Arizona, Tennessee and Nevada) and defend five seats in potentially vulnerable states (Florida, Indiana, Missouri, North Dakota and West Virginia).
The article also says that Senate Democrats can't do what Mitch McConnell did since the Republicans hold a majority and there's no judicial filibuster any longer. It's possible, I suppose, that some Republicans not up for re-election (such as Collins and Murkowski) or those retiring (such as Flake and Corker) might not go along with whomever the president nominates.
The article also says that Senate Democrats can't do what Mitch McConnell did since the Republicans hold a majority and there's no judicial filibuster any longer. It's possible, I suppose, that some Republicans not up for re-election (such as Collins and Murkowski) or those retiring (such as Flake and Corker) might not go along with whomever the president nominates.
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The Supreme Court was the main reason I voted for Clinton. Nominating Supreme Court Justices may be the most important thing the President does nowadays, and it should have gotten more attention during the campaign.
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I have always had this Pollyanna view that the Court gets a lot of things right by not hearing the cases, and leaving things up to the lower courts. And then even when they do hear a case, and even when I disagree with them, it just has not seemed like an unmitigated disaster over the long haul. Which is to say, eventually we get things figured out, and reverse things that were deep down wrong.
So I never have gotten all into the upset over the Court and its members and which way they lean, and won't be starting now. In other words, I trust that whoever is nominated and confirmed will be qualified and will do their best. Trusting the system means I can sleep at night. It doesn't mean it's the best position but it's the one I can live with.
So I never have gotten all into the upset over the Court and its members and which way they lean, and won't be starting now. In other words, I trust that whoever is nominated and confirmed will be qualified and will do their best. Trusting the system means I can sleep at night. It doesn't mean it's the best position but it's the one I can live with.
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The Resistance has spread from coast to coast.jarnon wrote:Justice Kennedy’s announcement overshadowed two other Washington retirements. House Democratic leader Joe Crowley was primaried by a 28-year-old upstart.
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Jayson's Phillies teammate Chase Utley is retiring too.jarnon wrote:And former Nationals star Jayson Werth (who got a World Series ring with the 2008 Phillies) announced that this is his final season in baseball.
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