Anyone Know About Flags?
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Anyone Know About Flags?
My neighbor is a WWII veteran of the Army, IIRC. He has always flown the American flag on a flagpole in front of his house. He (or a helper) has recently added a new flag right underneath it. I assumed it was the flag of some veterans group, but was unable to find a Google image of it.
It appears to have:
• White flag with a swallowtail (notch or fork) on the fly end (away from the pole)
• Wide red circle
• A blue shape in the circle with a wide white squiggle across it, perhaps with 3 "waves" in the squiggle
Does anyone know what this might be?
It appears to have:
• White flag with a swallowtail (notch or fork) on the fly end (away from the pole)
• Wide red circle
• A blue shape in the circle with a wide white squiggle across it, perhaps with 3 "waves" in the squiggle
Does anyone know what this might be?
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Re: Anyone Know About Flags?
Sounds like a guidon, but I can't see an Army unit using a white flag.Estonut wrote:My neighbor is a WWII veteran of the Army, IIRC. He has always flown the American flag on a flagpole in front of his house. He (or a helper) has recently added a new flag right underneath it. I assumed it was the flag of some veterans group, but was unable to find a Google image of it.
It appears to have:
• White flag with a swallowtail (notch or fork) on the fly end (away from the pole)
• Wide red circle
• A blue shape in the circle with a wide white squiggle across it, perhaps with 3 "waves" in the squiggle
Does anyone know what this might be?
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Re: Anyone Know About Flags?
Long shot, but could it be some variation on the Chicago Cubs flag, could it?Estonut wrote:My neighbor is a WWII veteran of the Army, IIRC. He has always flown the American flag on a flagpole in front of his house. He (or a helper) has recently added a new flag right underneath it. I assumed it was the flag of some veterans group, but was unable to find a Google image of it.
It appears to have:
• White flag with a swallowtail (notch or fork) on the fly end (away from the pole)
• Wide red circle
• A blue shape in the circle with a wide white squiggle across it, perhaps with 3 "waves" in the squiggle
Does anyone know what this might be?
Or some variant of the Ohio state flag?
I doubt it, because neither seems to match your description very well, and I believe you would be careful with such a description. But maybe.
I also found out while poking around that another name for the swallowtail is "burgee," in case that helps your searching.
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I think a burgee is just triangular.mrkelley23 wrote:Long shot, but could it be some variation on the Chicago Cubs flag, could it?Estonut wrote:My neighbor is a WWII veteran of the Army, IIRC. He has always flown the American flag on a flagpole in front of his house. He (or a helper) has recently added a new flag right underneath it. I assumed it was the flag of some veterans group, but was unable to find a Google image of it.
It appears to have:
• White flag with a swallowtail (notch or fork) on the fly end (away from the pole)
• Wide red circle
• A blue shape in the circle with a wide white squiggle across it, perhaps with 3 "waves" in the squiggle
Does anyone know what this might be?
Or some variant of the Ohio state flag?
I doubt it, because neither seems to match your description very well, and I believe you would be careful with such a description. But maybe.
I also found out while poking around that another name for the swallowtail is "burgee," in case that helps your searching.
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Re: Anyone Know About Flags?
You could always ask himEstonut wrote:My neighbor is a WWII veteran of the Army, IIRC. He has always flown the American flag on a flagpole in front of his house. He (or a helper) has recently added a new flag right underneath it. I assumed it was the flag of some veterans group, but was unable to find a Google image of it.
It appears to have:
• White flag with a swallowtail (notch or fork) on the fly end (away from the pole)
• Wide red circle
• A blue shape in the circle with a wide white squiggle across it, perhaps with 3 "waves" in the squiggle
Does anyone know what this might be?
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Re: Anyone Know About Flags?
If it's down now, it really might have been Cubs support.
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Re: Anyone Know About Flags?
When I saw your post, I thought, "no way." Looking at the image, it could be a variation. The trouble is that with no wind, the flag droops so nothing is visible, with a slight wind, as we had Friday, it moves and flaps too much to be sure what I'm seeing. I'm hoping for a stronger, sustained wind on Saturday. His flag definitely has a white background with no pinstripes, at least none visible from across the street. To me, the bear part on his flag looks a little flatter and I never noticed the ears at the top. I will look again tomorrow. The part that intrigues me is that I couldn't tell what the blue blob was and the white "squiggle" looked like a curvy triple "W," almost resembling Arabic writing. Looking at the flag you posted, I think it's a possibility, although I don't recall him mentioning any tie to Chicago before.mrkelley23 wrote:Long shot, but could it be some variation on the Chicago Cubs flag, could it?
My mom saw it a day or two ago and thought it was odd that he was flying a flag with a child's face on it. I discounted her observation, as she was a day or two post-cataract removal surgery.
By your capitalization, I think you mean this:mrkelley23 wrote:Or some variant of the Ohio state flag?
This has the same colors and flag shape that I'm seeing, but it is way too busy.
and not this:
Thanks. I tried, but it seems burgees are used more in nautical applications.mrkelley23 wrote:I also found out while poking around that another name for the swallowtail is "burgee," in case that helps your searching.
Thanks for the info, Mr.K!
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Re: Anyone Know About Flags?
As usual, you're wrong. Burgee means an identification flag. Its shape is usually swallow-tailed or triangular.Bob Juch wrote:I think a burgee is just triangular.
Definition of burgee:
Dictionary.COM:
1. a triangular flag or one having a shallow, angular indentation in the fly, forming two tails, used as an identification flag, especially by yachts.
Merriam-Webster:
1: a swallow-tailed flag used especially by ships for signals or identification
2: the usually triangular identifying flag of a yacht club
Three more:
bur·gee
(bər-jē′, bûr′jē)
n.
A small distinguishing flag displayed by a yacht.
[Perhaps from French dialectal bourgeais, shipowner, from Old French burgeis, citizen, from bourg, bourg; see bourg.]
American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fifth Edition. Copyright © 2016 by Houghton Mifflin Harcourt Publishing Company. Published by Houghton Mifflin Harcourt Publishing Company. All rights reserved.
burgee
(ˈbɜːdʒiː)
n
(Nautical Terms) nautical a triangular or swallow-tailed flag flown from the mast of a merchant ship for identification and from the mast of a yacht to indicate its owner's membership of a particular yacht club
[C18: perhaps from French (Jersey dialect) bourgeais shipowner, from Old French borgeis; see bourgeois1, burgess]
Collins English Dictionary – Complete and Unabridged, 12th Edition 2014 © HarperCollins Publishers 1991, 1994, 1998, 2000, 2003, 2006, 2007, 2009, 2011, 2014
bur•gee
(ˈbɜr dʒi, bɜrˈdʒi)
n.
a small nautical flag or pennant, used for identification or as a signal.
[1840–50]
Random House Kernerman Webster's College Dictionary, © 2010 K Dictionaries Ltd. Copyright 2005, 1997, 1991 by Random House, Inc. All rights reserved.
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Re: Anyone Know About Flags?
Thanks! I never would have thought of that!triviawayne wrote:You could always ask himEstonut wrote:My neighbor is a WWII veteran of the Army, IIRC. He has always flown the American flag on a flagpole in front of his house. He (or a helper) has recently added a new flag right underneath it. I assumed it was the flag of some veterans group, but was unable to find a Google image of it.
It appears to have:
• White flag with a swallowtail (notch or fork) on the fly end (away from the pole)
• Wide red circle
• A blue shape in the circle with a wide white squiggle across it, perhaps with 3 "waves" in the squiggle
Does anyone know what this might be?
TBH, I didn't want to bother him. He is getting really frail and needs a walker to get around the house. He has a sunken living room and I didn't want to risk making him fall while answering my ring of the doorbell, just to satisfy my curiosity. I planned to ask him next time I see him outside, but sometimes that might not be for a couple of weeks. People here know all kinds of stuff, so I thought I'd give it a shot here, in the meantime. Mr. Kelley may be on to something.
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Re: Anyone Know About Flags?
What's weird is that I'm not sure that it was flying Thursday, but it definitely was flying on Friday (after they had lost).Ritterskoop wrote:If it's down now, it really might have been Cubs support.
He has lights on them, so they fly 24/7, except for the rare occasions we have rain. I don't know if he's still raising and lowering it himself, or if one of his relatives does it. I'll check again on Saturday.
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Re: Anyone Know About Flags?
Can't just walk up to the flag and unfurl it for a peek?Estonut wrote:Thanks! I never would have thought of that!triviawayne wrote:You could always ask himEstonut wrote:My neighbor is a WWII veteran of the Army, IIRC. He has always flown the American flag on a flagpole in front of his house. He (or a helper) has recently added a new flag right underneath it. I assumed it was the flag of some veterans group, but was unable to find a Google image of it.
It appears to have:
• White flag with a swallowtail (notch or fork) on the fly end (away from the pole)
• Wide red circle
• A blue shape in the circle with a wide white squiggle across it, perhaps with 3 "waves" in the squiggle
Does anyone know what this might be?
TBH, I didn't want to bother him. He is getting really frail and needs a walker to get around the house. He has a sunken living room and I didn't want to risk making him fall while answering my ring of the doorbell, just to satisfy my curiosity. I planned to ask him next time I see him outside, but sometimes that might not be for a couple of weeks. People here know all kinds of stuff, so I thought I'd give it a shot here, in the meantime. Mr. Kelley may be on to something.
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Re: Anyone Know About Flags?
You could always ask him[/quote]Thanks! I never would have thought of that!Estonut wrote: Does anyone know what this might be?
TBH, I didn't want to bother him. He is getting really frail and needs a walker to get around the house. He has a sunken living room and I didn't want to risk making him fall while answering my ring of the doorbell, just to satisfy my curiosity. I planned to ask him next time I see him outside, but sometimes that might not be for a couple of weeks. People here know all kinds of stuff, so I thought I'd give it a shot here, in the meantime. Mr. Kelley may be on to something.[/quote]
I think it is a pretty safe bet that somebody who is pretty much a shut-in within their house and flies a flag that probably has some kind of meaning to them - They would welcome a neighbor stopping by to ask about it. I bet it would be interesting for you too. No better day than today to stop by and ask.
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Re: Anyone Know About Flags?
Or you could go to the expert.
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Just wait for a windy day.Estonut wrote:What's weird is that I'm not sure that it was flying Thursday, but it definitely was flying on Friday (after they had lost).Ritterskoop wrote:If it's down now, it really might have been Cubs support.
He has lights on them, so they fly 24/7, except for the rare occasions we have rain. I don't know if he's still raising and lowering it himself, or if one of his relatives does it. I'll check again on Saturday.
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You really need to get another hobby.Estonut wrote:As usual, you're wrong. Burgee means an identification flag. Its shape is usually swallow-tailed or triangular.Bob Juch wrote:I think a burgee is just triangular.
Definition of burgee:
Dictionary.COM:
1. a triangular flag or one having a shallow, angular indentation in the fly, forming two tails, used as an identification flag, especially by yachts.
Merriam-Webster:
1: a swallow-tailed flag used especially by ships for signals or identification
2: the usually triangular identifying flag of a yacht club
Three more:
bur·gee
(bər-jē′, bûr′jē)
n.
A small distinguishing flag displayed by a yacht.
[Perhaps from French dialectal bourgeais, shipowner, from Old French burgeis, citizen, from bourg, bourg; see bourg.]
American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fifth Edition. Copyright © 2016 by Houghton Mifflin Harcourt Publishing Company. Published by Houghton Mifflin Harcourt Publishing Company. All rights reserved.
burgee
(ˈbɜːdʒiː)
n
(Nautical Terms) nautical a triangular or swallow-tailed flag flown from the mast of a merchant ship for identification and from the mast of a yacht to indicate its owner's membership of a particular yacht club
[C18: perhaps from French (Jersey dialect) bourgeais shipowner, from Old French borgeis; see bourgeois1, burgess]
Collins English Dictionary – Complete and Unabridged, 12th Edition 2014 © HarperCollins Publishers 1991, 1994, 1998, 2000, 2003, 2006, 2007, 2009, 2011, 2014
bur•gee
(ˈbɜr dʒi, bɜrˈdʒi)
n.
a small nautical flag or pennant, used for identification or as a signal.
[1840–50]
Random House Kernerman Webster's College Dictionary, © 2010 K Dictionaries Ltd. Copyright 2005, 1997, 1991 by Random House, Inc. All rights reserved.
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Re: Anyone Know About Flags?
If only I were 10 feet taller...triviawayne wrote:Can't just walk up to the flag and unfurl it for a peek?Estonut wrote:Thanks! I never would have thought of that!triviawayne wrote:You could always ask him
TBH, I didn't want to bother him. He is getting really frail and needs a walker to get around the house. He has a sunken living room and I didn't want to risk making him fall while answering my ring of the doorbell, just to satisfy my curiosity. I planned to ask him next time I see him outside, but sometimes that might not be for a couple of weeks. People here know all kinds of stuff, so I thought I'd give it a shot here, in the meantime. Mr. Kelley may be on to something.
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Hobbies generally require investments of time. I can usually prove you wrong in under a minute.Bob Juch wrote:You really need to get another hobby.Estonut wrote:As usual, you're wrong. Burgee means an identification flag. Its shape is usually swallow-tailed or triangular.Bob Juch wrote:I think a burgee is just triangular.
Definition of burgee:
Dictionary.COM:
1. a triangular flag or one having a shallow, angular indentation in the fly, forming two tails, used as an identification flag, especially by yachts.
Merriam-Webster:
1: a swallow-tailed flag used especially by ships for signals or identification
2: the usually triangular identifying flag of a yacht club
Three more:
bur·gee
(bər-jē′, bûr′jē)
n.
A small distinguishing flag displayed by a yacht.
[Perhaps from French dialectal bourgeais, shipowner, from Old French burgeis, citizen, from bourg, bourg; see bourg.]
American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fifth Edition. Copyright © 2016 by Houghton Mifflin Harcourt Publishing Company. Published by Houghton Mifflin Harcourt Publishing Company. All rights reserved.
burgee
(ˈbɜːdʒiː)
n
(Nautical Terms) nautical a triangular or swallow-tailed flag flown from the mast of a merchant ship for identification and from the mast of a yacht to indicate its owner's membership of a particular yacht club
[C18: perhaps from French (Jersey dialect) bourgeais shipowner, from Old French borgeis; see bourgeois1, burgess]
Collins English Dictionary – Complete and Unabridged, 12th Edition 2014 © HarperCollins Publishers 1991, 1994, 1998, 2000, 2003, 2006, 2007, 2009, 2011, 2014
bur•gee
(ˈbɜr dʒi, bɜrˈdʒi)
n.
a small nautical flag or pennant, used for identification or as a signal.
[1840–50]
Random House Kernerman Webster's College Dictionary, © 2010 K Dictionaries Ltd. Copyright 2005, 1997, 1991 by Random House, Inc. All rights reserved.
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Re: Anyone Know About Flags?
Or had a ten-foot pole? --BobEstonut wrote:If only I were 10 feet taller...triviawayne wrote:Can't just walk up to the flag and unfurl it for a peek?Estonut wrote:Thanks! I never would have thought of that!
TBH, I didn't want to bother him. He is getting really frail and needs a walker to get around the house. He has a sunken living room and I didn't want to risk making him fall while answering my ring of the doorbell, just to satisfy my curiosity. I planned to ask him next time I see him outside, but sometimes that might not be for a couple of weeks. People here know all kinds of stuff, so I thought I'd give it a shot here, in the meantime. Mr. Kelley may be on to something.
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I was thinking yacht club when you described the shape. And the 3 squiggly lines might be waves on the blue water.
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