SSS Game

[silverscreenselect]

All your answers are correct. The Tangredi is literally staring you in the face.

[franktangredi]

I keep coming back to the two Napoleons on the list, one of whom SSS might be significant toward figuring out the Tangredi. That makes it clear that the name "Napoleon" by itself is not significant, or the two would be interchangeable. (Unless the significant word is "Napoleons.") So maybe we should be focusing on either "Bonaparte" or on Napoleon Bonaparte as a person.

James McDonnell and Joel Hyatt are also supposed to be significant, especially the latter. And the answer is supposedly "staring us in the face," which itself may be a clue. Mirrors?

That's all I got so far.

[silverscreenselect]

I keep coming back to the two Napoleons on the list, one of whom SSS might be significant toward figuring out the Tangredi. That makes it clear that the name "Napoleon" by itself is not significant, or the two would be interchangeable. (Unless the significant word is "Napoleons.") So maybe we should be focusing on either "Bonaparte" or on Napoleon Bonaparte as a person.

James McDonnell and Joel Hyatt are also supposed to be significant, especially the latter. And the answer is supposedly "staring us in the face," which itself may be a clue. Mirrors?

That's all I got so far.

There's nothing involved with mirrors. There's literally something in your last consolidation that's practically a giveaway to the Tangredi.

[Pastor Fireball]

The thing about mirrors is that everything is reversed in them. A few of the names on this list contain a name when "you look at it the right way"; that is, look at it backward. "Dole" is contained backward within the letters of "Angelo Dundee". "Leo" is contained backward within "Joel Hyatt". But I can't get 48 names out of this list that way.

[silverscreenselect]

The thing about mirrors is that everything is reversed in them. A few of the names on this list contain a name when "you look at it the right way"; that is, look at it backward. "Dole" is contained backward within the letters of "Angelo Dundee". "Leo" is contained backward within "Joel Hyatt". But I can't get 48 names out of this list that way.

You're giving me too much credit here and heading in the wrong direction. At this rate, you may need a map to find your destination.

[franktangredi]

The thing about mirrors is that everything is reversed in them. A few of the names on this list contain a name when "you look at it the right way"; that is, look at it backward. "Dole" is contained backward within the letters of "Angelo Dundee". "Leo" is contained backward within "Joel Hyatt". But I can't get 48 names out of this list that way.

You're giving me too much credit here and heading in the wrong direction. At this rate, you may need a map to find your destination.

Now that's a clue if I ever saw one.

[mrkelley23]

Stray thoughts which haven't gotten me anywhere, but might trigger someone else:

Ho Chi Minh City is the new name for Saigon, and Lea Salonga played the lead in Miss Saigon.

(Angelo) Dundee is also the name of a city, as is (Henry) Paris. For that matter, so is Piltdown, sort of.

There are lots of smaller words buried in the names of these folks. Eric Lindros played with a (Kelly Tri)PUCK(a).

Lord Haw Haw was played in the movies by (Marion) BARRY Jones.

[silverscreenselect]

I think you're very close, but you're thoughts are a bit too local here; you need to think more globally to figure out the Tangredi. I

[silverscreenselect]

Here's a bonus pair that might help you find the Tangredi. I actually had planned to include these clues in the puzzle, but somewhere along the way they got lost in the shuffle. Solve the clues and then figure out how they match with each other, and you should be able to figure out the Tangredi from there.

A. Operation Oak rescued him from the prison where he was held on Gran Sasso Mountain.

B. When he finally retired, he was the second oldest manager in Major League Baseball history, behind Connie Mack.

[franktangredi]

Here's a bonus pair that might help you find the Tangredi. I actually had planned to include these clues in the puzzle, but somewhere along the way they got lost in the shuffle. Solve the clues and then figure out how they match with each other, and you should be able to figure out the Tangredi from there.

A. Operation Oak rescued him from the prison where he was held on Gran Sasso Mountain.

B. When he finally retired, he was the second oldest manager in Major League Baseball history, behind Connie Mack.

I looked up these answers and I'm not seeing it yet. Maybe if I sleep on it.

[littlebeast13]

Here's a bonus pair that might help you find the Tangredi. I actually had planned to include these clues in the puzzle, but somewhere along the way they got lost in the shuffle. Solve the clues and then figure out how they match with each other, and you should be able to figure out the Tangredi from there.

A. Operation Oak rescued him from the prison where he was held on Gran Sasso Mountain.

B. When he finally retired, he was the second oldest manager in Major League Baseball history, behind Connie Mack.

A. is Benito Mussolini and B. is Jack McKeon. The only association I can make between these two is that McKeon was the manager of the Padres at the time Benito Santiago was one of their star players. Santiago would fit in with all of the map and global clues SSS is dropping, but it seems a bit of a stretch...

If world cities is the theme, then maybe Joel Hyatt (Whose firm inspired the movie Philadelphia) would match with longtime Flyer Eric Lindros....

lb13

[franktangredi]

Here's a bonus pair that might help you find the Tangredi. I actually had planned to include these clues in the puzzle, but somewhere along the way they got lost in the shuffle. Solve the clues and then figure out how they match with each other, and you should be able to figure out the Tangredi from there.

A. Operation Oak rescued him from the prison where he was held on Gran Sasso Mountain.

B. When he finally retired, he was the second oldest manager in Major League Baseball history, behind Connie Mack.

A. is Benito Mussolini and B. is Jack McKeon. The only association I can make between these two is that McKeon was the manager of the Padres at the time Benito Santiago was one of their star players. Santiago would fit in with all of the map and global clues SSS is dropping, but it seems a bit of a stretch...

If world cities is the theme, then maybe Joel Hyatt (Whose firm inspired the movie Philadelphia) would match with longtime Flyer Eric Lindros....

lb13

I didn't know that about Hyatt. That may fit in with the suggestion made earlier about Lea Salonga (Miss Saigon) and Ho Chi Minh.

[silverscreenselect]

Your answers to the bonus clues are correct. You are closer than you realize to putting this together. You've got two other pairings partially solved (besides the bonus clues) and just need to take that one last step. Keep in mind that the links for all the pairs work exactly the same way and it's something you can easily sum up in one sentence.

[franktangredi]

Your answers to the bonus clues are correct. You are closer than you realize to putting this together. You've got two other pairings partially solved (besides the bonus clues) and just need to take that one last step. Keep in mind that the links for all the pairs work exactly the same way and it's something you can easily sum up in one sentence.

Believe me, I haven't given up, though I've been too busy to give it a lot of attention today. I'll probably feel like an idiot when the a-ha moment comes. But I'll be perfectly happy if somebody else gets there first.

[mellytu74]

Your answers to the bonus clues are correct. You are closer than you realize to putting this together. You've got two other pairings partially solved (besides the bonus clues) and just need to take that one last step. Keep in mind that the links for all the pairs work exactly the same way and it's something you can easily sum up in one sentence.

Believe me, I haven't given up, though I've been too busy to give it a lot of attention today. I'll probably feel like an idiot when the a-ha moment comes. But I'll be perfectly happy if somebody else gets there first.

Ditto. I've looked and played around with some stuff but won't have the real time to devote until after work today.

[silverscreenselect]

I honestly didn't think this puzzle would prove that difficult, but I seem to have driven everyone away. I guess when they were slapped with a tough puzzle, they took it and liked it.

[franktangredi]

I honestly didn't think this puzzle would prove that difficult, but I seem to have driven everyone away. I guess when they were slapped with a tough puzzle, they took it and liked it.

There's a clue in here.

[mrkelley23]

I honestly didn't think this puzzle would prove that difficult, but I seem to have driven everyone away. I guess when they were slapped with a tough puzzle, they took it and liked it.

There's a clue in here.

I hadn't realized it until you pointed it out, but this is a play on the line from Maltese Falcon. Bogart to Elisha Cook, Jr. The big thing is that Cook's characters name is Cairo. So the world cities thing is looking more and more likely.

[franktangredi]

I honestly didn't think this puzzle would prove that difficult, but I seem to have driven everyone away. I guess when they were slapped with a tough puzzle, they took it and liked it.

There's a clue in here.

I hadn't realized it until you pointed it out, but this is a play on the line from Maltese Falcon. Bogart to Elisha Cook, Jr. The big thing is that Cook's characters name is Cairo. So the world cities thing is looking more and more likely.

Especially since it is actually PETER LORRE who played Joel Cairo, and he's in the puzzle.

[franktangredi]

There's a clue in here.

I hadn't realized it until you pointed it out, but this is a play on the line from Maltese Falcon. Bogart to Elisha Cook, Jr. The big thing is that Cook's characters name is Cairo. So the world cities thing is looking more and more likely.

Especially since it is actually PETER LORRE who played Joel Cairo, and he's in the puzzle.

LEA SALONGA was Miss Saigon
ERNIE KOVACS was one of the Nairobi Trio
TOM HANKS was in Philadelphia
... but I'm not sure we have enough performers here to make this work.

[mellytu74]

I hadn't realized it until you pointed it out, but this is a play on the line from Maltese Falcon. Bogart to Elisha Cook, Jr. The big thing is that Cook's characters name is Cairo. So the world cities thing is looking more and more likely.

Especially since it is actually PETER LORRE who played Joel Cairo, and he's in the puzzle.

LEA SALONGA was Miss Saigon
ERNIE KOVACS was one of the Nairobi Trio
TOM HANKS was in Philadelphia
... but I'm not sure we have enough performers here to make this work.

John Hannah and David Ortiz played for in Boston where poor Charlie was on the MTA, as sung by the Kingston Trio
Harrison Ford played Indiana Jones
Kate Smith is known for God Bless America

I just don't know if there's enough to sustain it

[franktangredi]

Especially since it is actually PETER LORRE who played Joel Cairo, and he's in the puzzle.

LEA SALONGA was Miss Saigon
ERNIE KOVACS was one of the Nairobi Trio
TOM HANKS was in Philadelphia
... but I'm not sure we have enough performers here to make this work.

John Hannah and David Ortiz played for in Boston where poor Charlie was on the MTA, as sung by the Kingston Trio
Harrison Ford played Indiana Jones
Kate Smith is known for God Bless America

I just don't know if there's enough to sustain it

Let's not forget the extra pair SSS gave us as a pair. A. is Benito Mussolini and B. is Jack McKeon. Neither one of them is a performer.

I know nothing about McKeon except what I read on Wikipedia. I know more about Mussolini: Il Duce, fascism, black shirts, etc.

I don't see anything in the names themselves that would obviously pair these two.

[mrkelley23]

McKeon is also famous for managing the Florida Marlins, who at the time were the only MLB team to wear solid black jersey shirts. And sorry about the brain fart on Cairo/Lorre.

[silverscreenselect]

I think that if you look back at all the suggestions people have made, you'll see the pattern emerge (although there are some dead ends and wrong turns (and that's not a clue)). There is a refinement that you will probably spot soon after that which keeps the total number of possibilities for matches at a manageable number. This puzzle, like many of Frank's, involves people who are used in two separate capacities to make the match.

[franktangredi]

I think that if you look back at all the suggestions people have made, you'll see the pattern emerge (although there are some dead ends and wrong turns (and that's not a clue)). There is a refinement that you will probably spot soon after that which keeps the total number of possibilities for matches at a manageable number. This puzzle, like many of Frank's, involves people who are used in two separate capacities to make the match.

I noticed early on that a lot of these people are known by more than one name, but that hasn't helped.

I can't see how ANY of the suggestions made so far goes with the known Mussolini/McKeon match. And I don't know why Melly and myself are the most likely people to get it, as SSS hinted. We are the old movie mavens, but neither Mussolini nor McKeon has any association with old movies. (Well, except for Rod Steiger and MARLIN Brando....)

I have a feeling that, when I or someone else finally gets it, I'm going to want to smack somebody. Probably myself.