Game #164: Out of Order!

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Re: Game #164: Out of Order!

#26 Post by franktangredi » Wed Jan 04, 2017 11:56 am

silverscreenselect wrote:
silverscreenselect wrote:
silverscreenselect wrote:
So, we match Al Capone with Unser to get Al Unser (Jr.) who won the Indy 500 driving for Roger Penske.
Looking over some of the other names, this match probably isn't right.

I think Roger Penske goes with Yenta (Taney) for Roger Taney, best known for the infamous Dred Scott Supreme Court decision.
And here's the Al Capone reference. I should have figured it out immediately when Bugs Bunny was an answer but Al Capone goes with Bugs Bunny and Roman for Bugs Moran, the employer of the gentlemen who were dispatched in the St. Valentine's Day Massacre.
Well, this is a record for finding the Tangredi. I knew this one wasn't going to be hard, but I didn't expect anybody to look at the word list quite this early.

Regarding the above: take a look at the solving directions for an important reminder.

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#27 Post by mellytu74 » Wed Jan 04, 2017 12:08 pm

kroxquo wrote:
mellytu74 wrote: 59. This Hockey Hall of Famer was the first NHL player to play twenty seasons – all of them with the Boston Bruins.

RAY BOURQUE
Bourque played his last season with the Avalanche. Might it be John Bucyk?
then I must have misread the question - because Bourque's first 20 years were with the Bruins.

Can't be Bucyk - he started out with the Red Wings.

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#28 Post by mellytu74 » Wed Jan 04, 2017 12:13 pm

mellytu74 wrote: 9. A species of rabbit is named for this media mogul, who turned 90 in 2016.

RUPERT MURDOCH

Oh for heaven's sake ... Fireball is right. It HAS to be Hefner

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#29 Post by mellytu74 » Wed Jan 04, 2017 12:16 pm

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84. This two-time middleweight champ was scheduled to play himself in the movie Somebody Up There Likes Me, but he was replaced after he knocked out Paul Newman for real.

ROCKY GRAZIANO
This can't be Graziano since Newman played Graziano in the film and if they actually thought of casting Rocky in the lead role, he wouldn't be sparring with Paul Newman.

It could be Tony Zale because the timing is right, and he had a notable fight with Graziano.

It would also match with Citrus (Curtis) and Albert De Salvo for Tony Curtis, who played De Salvo in the movie The Boston Strangler.
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84. This two-time middleweight champ was scheduled to play himself in the movie Somebody Up There Likes Me, but he was replaced after he knocked out Paul Newman for real.

ROCKY GRAZIANO
This can't be Graziano since Newman played Graziano in the film and if they actually thought of casting Rocky in the lead role, he wouldn't be sparring with Paul Newman.

It could be Tony Zale because the timing is right, and he had a notable fight with Graziano.

It would also match with Citrus (Curtis) and Albert De Salvo for Tony Curtis, who played De Salvo in the movie The Boston Strangler.
I completely misread this question.

Yes - TONY ZALE is right. Courtland Shepherd played him.

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#30 Post by mellytu74 » Wed Jan 04, 2017 12:21 pm

18. Following in the footsteps of Judith Anderson and Zoe Caldwell, this Dame became the third actress to win a Tony for playing the same role.

This is DIANA RIGG. the role is Medea

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#31 Post by mellytu74 » Wed Jan 04, 2017 12:27 pm

mellytu74 wrote:
kroxquo wrote:
mellytu74 wrote: 59. This Hockey Hall of Famer was the first NHL player to play twenty seasons – all of them with the Boston Bruins.

RAY BOURQUE
Bourque played his last season with the Avalanche. Might it be John Bucyk?
then I must have misread the question - because Bourque's first 20 years were with the Bruins.

Can't be Bucyk - he started out with the Red Wings.

BUT it is ...

Aubrey Victor "Dit" Clapper

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#32 Post by silverscreenselect » Wed Jan 04, 2017 12:49 pm

franktangredi wrote:
Regarding the above: take a look at the solving directions for an important reminder.
Frank noted that 40 of the names are used twice, so we can match up Al Unser and Roger Penske after all.
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#33 Post by mellytu74 » Wed Jan 04, 2017 12:57 pm

61. The official NASA mission log noted that “not since Adam has any human known such solitude” as this astronaut.

I do believe this is MICHAEL COLLINS during Apollo 11

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#34 Post by mellytu74 » Wed Jan 04, 2017 1:02 pm

29. ROBINSON CANO + Source = Robinson Crusoe + 87. DANIEL DAFOE

Second use of Dafoe

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#35 Post by mellytu74 » Wed Jan 04, 2017 1:10 pm

73. This chemist may be considered one of the architects of the modern world thanks to his invention of polyoxybenzylmethylenglycolanhydride in 1907.

As Mr. K said, a fancy name for plastic. I just realized this is Bakelite.

LEO BAEKELAND

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#36 Post by mellytu74 » Wed Jan 04, 2017 1:26 pm

19. This English chemist shared the Nobel Prize with two Americans for their work in discovering fullerenes.

HAROLD KROTO.

I admit I looked this up because I thought that #72 might be Harold MacMillan but I think we need a newer vintage on that answer.

Anyway.... Mr. K had me thinking. Mercer wrote the lyrics but Harold ARLEN (Renal) wrote the music.

19. HAROLD KROTO + Renal = Harold Arlen + 40. JOHNNY MERCER

Which I believe is the second use of Mercer

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#37 Post by silverscreenselect » Wed Jan 04, 2017 1:41 pm

Hugh Hefner + Salon (Sloan) = Hugh Sloan, a Watergate figure working for the campaign to re-elect Richard Nixon.
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#38 Post by mellytu74 » Wed Jan 04, 2017 1:56 pm

silverscreenselect wrote:Hugh Hefner + Salon (Sloan) = Hugh Sloan, a Watergate figure working for the campaign to re-elect Richard Nixon.
83. Following what has become an annual tradition, Carnegie Hall will hold a concert this month honoring this mezzo-soprano on her 83rd birthday.

Is this MARILYN HORNE? Because...No More! doesn't = Moreno. It equals Monroe.

Who would go with Hugh Hefner

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#39 Post by mellytu74 » Wed Jan 04, 2017 2:20 pm

Tony Zale's other best-known fight was again Marcel Cerdan with Edith Paif (Cerdan's lover) praying in the audience.

10. MARCEL DUCHAMPS + Dancer = Marcel Cerdan + 84. TONY ZALE

Second use of Zale

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#40 Post by mellytu74 » Wed Jan 04, 2017 2:38 pm

mrkelley23 wrote: 14. A 2001 survey of economists named him the second most popular economist of the 20th century – behind the man whose “naïve” theories he devoted his life to opposing – but he said his proudest achievement was his role in ending the U.S. military draft.

I would guess Keynes and Friedman are the two most popular economists of the 20th century -- but I'm not sure which this clue describes.
Uncle Miltie called him Uncle Fultie.

14. MILTON FRIEDMAN + Rebel = Milton Berle + 62. FULTON SHEEN

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#41 Post by silverscreenselect » Wed Jan 04, 2017 2:46 pm

Clifford Odets + Virgin (Irving) = Clifford Irving, author of the bogus Autobiography of Howard Hughes
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#42 Post by mellytu74 » Wed Jan 04, 2017 2:49 pm

25. LES PAUL + Spain = Les Aspin who was Secretary of Defense under 1. BILL CLINTON

I have to go back to work now.

Really.

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#43 Post by jarnon » Wed Jan 04, 2017 5:04 pm

I got to this game late, and most of the answers I know have already been given. Here are a few leftovers.

12. The nationalist movement founded by this activist in 1831 inspired such later groups as Young Germany and the Young Turks; he himself lived to see its chief goal achieved, though not exactly in the way he wanted.
GIUSEPPE MAZZINI

26. He was General Secretary of his nation’s Communist party from 1953 to 1968. Then came the Spring.
ANTONÍN NOVOTNÝ

46. His appointment was confirmed by the thinnest margin of any U.S. Supreme Court justice of the 20th century.
CLARENCE THOMAS

89. He had the largest speaking role in three different plays by William Shakespeare.
SIR JOHN FALSTAFF

99. Speaking of waking up famous, this botanist noted, “When I woke up just after dawn on September 28, 1928, I certainly didn't plan to revolutionize all medicine.” (But he did.)
SIR ALEXANDER FLEMING
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#44 Post by jarnon » Wed Jan 04, 2017 5:06 pm

silverscreenselect wrote:
franktangredi wrote:89. He had the largest speaking role in three different plays by William Shakespeare.
89. This seems a bit too obvious, so I'm not sure if it's right, but Henry VI is actually three separate plays, so it would make sense he had the largest roles in all three.
I just watched The Hollow Crown on PBS, and the King didn't have that many lines in Part 2 & 3. But you have the right era.
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#45 Post by silverscreenselect » Wed Jan 04, 2017 6:15 pm

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26. He was General Secretary of his nation’s Communist party from 1953 to 1968. Then came the Spring.
ANTONÍN NOVOTNÝ

46. His appointment was confirmed by the thinnest margin of any U.S. Supreme Court justice of the 20th century.
CLARENCE THOMAS
Seeing these two answers together practically gave this match away. I just had to find the right associated word.

Antonin Novotny + Calais + Clarence Thomas = Antonin Scalia
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#46 Post by jarnon » Wed Jan 04, 2017 7:30 pm

33. She had the second-longest combined tenure as First Lady and Second Lady of the United States.

Looking up the dates in Wikipedia:
Pat Nixon: 13 years 7 months
Eleanor Roosevelt: 12 years 1 month
Barbara Bush: 12 years
Abigail Adams: 11 years 10 months

Of course, Eleanor was never Second Lady, but Frank could be sneaky. (In the same vein, Norman Mailer and Frank have won 2 Pulitzer Prizes between them.) The "Nixon rule" fails here.
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Game #164: I will consolidate

#47 Post by mellytu74 » Wed Jan 04, 2017 8:33 pm

I just got in the house - I will consolidate.

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#48 Post by SportsFan68 » Wed Jan 04, 2017 8:36 pm

Out of order! Out of order! You're out of order! This whole court is out of order!

I love that scene.
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#49 Post by jarnon » Wed Jan 04, 2017 9:03 pm

This game is moving so fast, a consolidation will help.


Identify the 100 people in the clues below. Then, match two of the names with one of the Associated Words according to a Tangredi, or principle you must discover for yourself. Forty of the names will be used twice, each time in a different capacity.

1. *BILL CLINTON

2. “Hail, true body” is the English translation of the last motet written by this composer. (It has been one of my favorite pieces of music since we played it in All-County Orchestra in 1969.)

3. WILLIAM MAKEPEACE THACKERAY
4. *JACKIE GLEASON

5. In 1984, this track star shared Sportsperson of the Year honors with a female gymnast.
EDWIN MOSES or CARL LEWIS?

6. One of the most prominent 20th century physicists to never win the Nobel Prize, he once told an interviewer, “"My name is not Strangelove. I don't know about Strangelove. I'm not interested in Strangelove.”
WERNER VON BRAUN?

7. DJMQ: He may have been the first – and was certainly the most important – dancer to work with both Twyla Tharp and George Balanchine – in that order.
Another DJMQ appears at #70.

8. JEAN-JACQUES ROUSSEAU
9. **HUGH HEFNER
10. *MARCEL DUCHAMPS
11. J.E.B. STUART
12. GIUSEPPE MAZZINI

13. This leading figure of the Chicago jazz scene was a professional banjoist by the age of sixteen.

14. *MILTON FRIEDMAN

15. The heir of three leading European dynasties, he ruled two empires in the 16th century, but the pressure of constant warfare led him to abdicate and retire to a monastery.

16. LUIGI PIRANDELLO
17. SID LUCKMAN
18. DIANA RIGG
19. *HAROLD KROTO
20. ANNE BOLEYN
21. **AL CAPONE
22. *JAMES BOND

23. An expert in Italian cuisine, this chef won James Beard awards for Best New Restaurant of 1998, Best Chef in New York City in 2002, and Best Restaurateur in 2008.
MARIO BATALI?

24. CLAUDE HOPKINS
25. *LES PAUL
26. *ANTONÍN NOVOTNÝ

27. One of the philosophical architects of German Romanticism, he was also he son-in-law of the philosopher Moses Mendelssohn.

28. In addition to winning two Pulitzer Prizes, this distinguished American novelist co-founded an alternative news weekly that itself has won three Pulitzers.
NORMAN MAILER?

29. *ROBINSON CANO
30. PRESTON STURGES

31. This Cuban epidemiologist is best remembered for being the first to postulate that a virulent disease was borne by the Aedes aegypti.

32. This peace activist drove an ambulance during the Spanish Civil War and was imprisoned for failing to show up for his draft physical during World War II, but he gained wider fame when he was arrested for his efforts to protest a later war.

33. She had the second-longest combined tenure as First Lady and Second Lady of the United States.
ELEANOR ROOSEVELT or BARBARA BUSH

34. The same year he published The Rules of Sociological Method, he also set up the first department of sociology at any university in Europe.

35. FRANCISCO VÁSQUEZ DE CORONADO

36. Among the biggest stories covered and uncovered by this journalist and columnist were the CIA plot to assassinate Castro, the ITT scandal, the harassment of John Lennon by the Nixon administration, and the Iran-Contra affair.
JACK ANDERSON?

37. *COLIN POWELL
38. *BILLY BIGELOW

39. This German biologist and naturalist coined such terms as ecology, phylogeny, stem cell, and phylum.

40. **JOHNNY MERCER
41. MARY BOLAND

42. This novelist’s 1925 masterpiece is generally considered to have the greatest closing line in the history of American fiction.
F. SCOTT FITZGERALD or ERNEST HEMINGWAY

43. LANCE ARMSTRONG

44. In an 1842 essay, this American thinker defined the philosophical movement of which he was the leading light as “the Saturnalia or excess of Faith; the presentiment of a faith proper to man in his integrity, excessive only when his imperfect obedience hinders the satisfaction of his wish.” Got that?

45. **ROGER PENSKE
46. *CLARENCE THOMAS
47. BILL W.
48. GARY COOPER

49. In 1931, this Wallonian writer published the first of 76 novels featuring the same fictional detective.

50. Laws in spectroscopy, circuit theory, and thermochemistry are named for this 19th century Germany physicist, who also coined the term “black box radiation.”
MAX PLANCK?

51. *ANTONIO PROHIAS

52. His total of 38 Number One hits on the Billboard country music chart is exceeded only by George Strait and Conway Twitty.
GARTH BROOKS, GEORGE JONES, MERLE HAGGARD or RONNIE MILSAP?

53. KYLE ROTE JR.

54. A colleague of Freud, he broke away from the Freudian school of psychoanalysis to form his own school of “individual psychology.” (Sigmund was pissed.)

55. The empress never really had that equine affair, but she did have quite a fling with this general, who fathered two of her children and helped her get rid of her husband.

56. GREG ABBOTT
57. RACHEL HUNTER

58. In a 1974 article, this Nobel Prize-winning chemist first propounded the theory that chlorofluorocarbons contribute to ozone depletion.

59. AUBREY VICTOR "DIT" CLAPPER

60. This metaphysical poet saw Eternity the other night and didn’t even Tweet about it.

61. MICHAEL COLLINS
62. *FULTON SHEEN
63. CAT STEVENS
64. ALFRED HITCHCOCK

65. A lot of people think a news broadcast on October 3, 1983, effectively ended this journalist’s career.
JESSICA SAVITCH?

66. *BUGS BUNNY
67. *DRED SCOTT

68. The goal of the institution he founded in 1919 was, in his words, “to bring together all creative effort into one whole, to reunify all the disciplines of practical art – sculpture, painting, handicrafts, and the crafts – as inseparable components of a new architecture.”
WALTER GROPIUS?

69. *ALBERT DESALVO

70. DJMQ: He was the original choreographer of such classic ballets as La Esmerelda, Ondine, and, of course, Giselle.

71. This general served as Commander-in-Chief of the German army at the outset of World War II, but was forced into retirement after the failure of the Nazi assault on Moscow.

72. He was the last British Prime Minister to have previously served as Chancellor of the Exchequer.
WINSTON CHURCHILL?

73. LEO BAEKELAND
74. *FRANK BEARD
75. *CLIFFORD ODETTS
76. *RAYMOND BERRY
77. *DREW CAREY

78. This archaeologist is best known for unearthing a 9000 year-old Bronze Age palace on an island in the Mediterranean.

79. A student of Martin Luther, this theologian published the first translation of the Pentateuch into Danish.

80. The company he founded in 1906 – and which is still going strong today – was one of the first to include nutritional labels on its products and the very first to offer prizes for children inside its boxes.
WILL KEITH KELLOGG?

81. OLEG CASSINI

82. During her tenure as president of NOW, she engaged in more than 80 debates with Phyllis Schafly over the ERA, but earned the enmity of some members over her advocacy of equal custody rights for men in divorce cases.

83. *MARILYN HORNE
84. **TONY ZALE
85. TSAR NICHOLAS II
86. GEORGE C. SCOTT
87. **DANIEL DEFOE
88. ALESSANDRO VOLTA
89. SIR JOHN FALSTAFF
90. FRANK BOAS
91. *JERRY GARCIA

92. Among third basemen, only Brooks Robinson and George Brett appeared in more consecutive All-Star Games than this Omaha-born Hall of Famer.
EDDIE MATHEWS or WADE BOGGS?

93. NATHANEAL GREENE
94. *HOWARD HUGHES
95. *RALPH FIENNES

96. This philosopher’s magnum opus is divided into three parts – the first part dealing with the nature of God and of man; the second part dealing with morality; and the unfinished third part dealing with Christ and the end of the world.

97. We know that, in 1812, this poet woke up to find himself, but history is silent on whom he woke up next to. (It could have been ANYBODY.)

98. RENOIR
99. SIR ALEXANDER FLEMING
100. *RICHARD NIXON


MATCHES

21. AL CAPONE + UNSER (Nurse) = 45. ROGER PENSKE
37. COLIN POWELL + MOCHRIE (Homeric) = 77. DREW CAREY
84. TONY ZALE + CURTIS (Citrus) = 69. ALBERT DESALVO
45. ROGER PENSKE + TANEY (Yenta) = 67. DRED SCOTT
38. BILLY BIGELOW + GIBBONS (Sobbing) = 74. FRANK BEARD
87. DANIEL DEFOE + CRAIG (Cigar) = 22. JAMES BOND
66. BUGS BUNNY + MORAN (Roman) = 21. AL CAPONE
95. RALPH FIENNES + KRAMDEN (Denmark) = 4. JACKIE GLEASON
40. JOHNNY MERCER + UNITAS (Austin) = 76. RAYMOND BERRY
29. ROBINSON CANO + CRUSOE (Source) = 87. DANIEL DEFOE
19. HAROLD KROTO + ARLEN (Renal) = 40. JOHNNY MERCER
9. HUGH HEFNER + SLOAN (Salon) = 100. RICHARD NIXON
83. MARILYN HORNE + MORENO (No More!) = 9. HUGH HEFNER
10. MARCEL DUCHAMPS + CERDAN (Dancer) = 84. TONY ZALE
14. MILTON FRIEDMAN + BERLE (Rebel) = 62. FULTON SHEEN
75. CLIFFORD ODETTS + IRVING (Virgin) = 94. HOWARD HUGHES
25. LES PAUL + ASPIN (Spain) = 1. BILL CLINTON
26. ANTONÍN NOVOTNÝ + SCALIA (Calais) = 46. CLARENCE THOMAS


PARTIAL MATCHES

BOB? + WEIR (Wire) = 91. JERRY GARCIA
51. ANTONIO PROHIAS + SALIERI (Israeli) = ?


UNMATCHED WORDS

Rap
Ragtime
Car Wash
Grease
Dr. No
Persona
Demons
Phantom
Menace
Beast
Lizards
Deer
Horse
Orca
Great Dane
Lhasa
Paris
Lisbon
Salem
Harlem
Borneo
China
Lakers
Angel
Bruin
Ranger
Diver
Slugger
Oilman
Herald
Subteen
Puritans
Old Men
Darlin’
O. Henry
Lavender
Stew
Red Meats
Red Giant
Comet
Tundra
Vaginal
Clearly
Ode
Romance
Camera
Yoga
Raffle
Not Me!
Hell, Yes!
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#50 Post by jarnon » Wed Jan 04, 2017 9:10 pm

86. GEORGE C. SCOTT + HALAS (Lhasa) = 17. SID LUCKMAN
77. DREW CAREY + PEARSON (Persona) = 36. JACK ANDERSON
28. NORMAN MAILER + BATES (Beast) = 64. ALFRED HITCHCOCK
73. LEO BAEKELAND + SZILARD (Lizards) = 6. not Strangelove
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