Game #162: Songwich

[mrkelley23]

Okay, I've found three examples that work. This could be a bastard to work out, but I think I've got it, or mostly it.

There are two songs that we use part of the title for, plus one group that has another song that we use as part of the title, and the fourth is a group that had a hit with the song whose title we made. Examples:

82. GAMES without frontiers + 76. Barbra Streisand (PEOPLE) + 91. Let the music PLAY = GAMES PEOPLE PLAY (15. Alan Parsons Project)

83. Heart (ALONE) + 36. I just fall in love AGAIN + 42. Act NATURALLY = ALONE AGAIN (NATURALLY) (20. Gilbert O’Sullivan)

22. SWEET baby james + 38. Fleetwood Mac (DREAMS) + 86. Memories ARE MADE OF THIS = SWEET DREAMS (ARE MADE OF THIS) (64. Eurythmics)

[mellytu74]

85. STOP + 39. U2 (IN THE NAME OF) + 10. LOVE + 33. THE SUPREMES

28. CATCH A + FALLING (STILL NEED WHERE THIS COMES FROM) + 76. STAR + 16. PERRY COMO

[littlebeast13]

28. CATCH A + FALLING (STILL NEED WHERE THIS COMES FROM) + 76. STAR + 16. PERRY COMO

Montell Jordan had a song called "Falling" (and in full disclosure, I did look that up... I know it's early, but who knew he wasn't a OHW?), so the sandwich song is #45...

28. CATCH A + 45. Montell Jordan (FALLING) + 76. STAR + 16. PERRY COMO

[littlebeast13]

I was initially read mrk's explanation of the Tangredi wrong, because this was the first song I found when I went back and looked and was confused as to why we already had two "Time" songs. Ahhhhh....

53. OLD + 15. Alan Parsons Project (TIME) + 34. ROCK AND ROLL = 71. Bob Seger

[franktangredi]

One small refinement is all you need to nail this down. That refinement will make it easier to make the songwiches by narrowing down the possibilities.

I had a feeling the 'aha' moment was coming fairly soon. Well done!

[littlebeast13]

One more, and I may come back to this late, late tonight...

3. BLACK + 48. The Cars (MAGIC) + 60. WOMAN = 63. Santana

[Pastor Fireball]

One small refinement is all you need to nail this down. That refinement will make it easier to make the songwiches by narrowing down the possibilities.

I had a feeling the 'aha' moment was coming fairly soon. Well done!

The refinement should be that the formula for making our quartets should always be this:

bread + filling + bread = songwich

where:

-- "bread" = a word or words from one of the songs on the list
-- "filling" = a different and complete song title by one of the artists on the list

That means this match:

83. Heart (ALONE) + 36. I just fall in love AGAIN + 42. Act NATURALLY = ALONE AGAIN (NATURALLY) (20. Gilbert O’Sullivan)

won't work because the "filling" is in the beginning rather than in the middle. We have to put it like this instead:

97. ALONE at Last + AGAIN (Janet Jackson? Lenny Kravitz?) + 42. Act NATURALLY = ALONE AGAIN (NATURALLY) (20. Gilbert O’Sullivan)

[mellytu74]

One small refinement is all you need to nail this down. That refinement will make it easier to make the songwiches by narrowing down the possibilities.

I had a feeling the 'aha' moment was coming fairly soon. Well done!

The refinement should be that the formula for making our quartets should always be this:

bread + filling + bread = songwich

where:

-- "bread" = a word or words from one of the songs on the list
-- "filling" = a different and complete song title by one of the artists on the list

That means this match:

83. Heart (ALONE) + 36. I just fall in love AGAIN + 42. Act NATURALLY = ALONE AGAIN (NATURALLY) (20. Gilbert O’Sullivan)

won't work because the "filling" is in the beginning rather than in the middle. We have to put it like this instead:

97. ALONE at Last + AGAIN (Janet Jackson? Lenny Kravitz?) + 42. Act NATURALLY = ALONE AGAIN (NATURALLY) (20. Gilbert O’Sullivan)

AND, since we're going for one word - it also tosses out Stop in the Name of Love.

[littlebeast13]

One small refinement is all you need to nail this down. That refinement will make it easier to make the songwiches by narrowing down the possibilities.

I had a feeling the 'aha' moment was coming fairly soon. Well done!

The refinement should be that the formula for making our quartets should always be this:

bread + filling + bread = songwich

where:

-- "bread" = a word or words from one of the songs on the list
-- "filling" = a different and complete song title by one of the artists on the list

That means this match:

83. Heart (ALONE) + 36. I just fall in love AGAIN + 42. Act NATURALLY = ALONE AGAIN (NATURALLY) (20. Gilbert O’Sullivan)

won't work because the "filling" is in the beginning rather than in the middle. We have to put it like this instead:

97. ALONE at Last + AGAIN (Janet Jackson? Lenny Kravitz?) + 42. Act NATURALLY = ALONE AGAIN (NATURALLY) (20. Gilbert O’Sullivan)

AND, since we're going for one word - it also tosses out Stop in the Name of Love.

I've been trying to hone in on what the filler songs should be.... but even that's been a chore. fastball has to be here for "The Way", Lonestar's biggest hit was "Amazed" (But I can only come up with "Maybe I'm Amazed, which doesn't fit the pattern), The Commodores would make sense for "Easy" ("Peaceful Easy Feeling" would make sense, but only if most of the match is still in our unknowns), etc. I have found it's hard to think of song titles with a certain word or short phrase in them when what you're looking for is in the middle...

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[franktangredi]

The refinement should be that the formula for making our quartets should always be this:

bread + filling + bread = songwich

where:

-- "bread" = a word or words from one of the songs on the list
-- "filling" = a different and complete song title by one of the artists on the list

That means this match:



won't work because the "filling" is in the beginning rather than in the middle. We have to put it like this instead:

97. ALONE at Last + AGAIN (Janet Jackson? Lenny Kravitz?) + 42. Act NATURALLY = ALONE AGAIN (NATURALLY) (20. Gilbert O’Sullivan)

AND, since we're going for one word - it also tosses out Stop in the Name of Love.

I've been trying to hone in on what the filler songs should be.... but even that's been a chore. fastball has to be here for "The Way", Lonestar's biggest hit was "Amazed" (But I can only come up with "Maybe I'm Amazed, which doesn't fit the pattern), The Commodores would make sense for "Easy" ("Peaceful Easy Feeling" would make sense, but only if most of the match is still in our unknowns), etc. I have found it's hard to think of song titles with a certain word or short phrase in them when what you're looking for is in the middle...

lb13

There is one last refinement to the 'bread' that will make it easier to narrow the matches down. Let me ask it this way. Why is THIS match

53. Old Days + Time (15. The Alan Parsons Project) + 34. The Heart of Rock and Roll = Old Time Rock and Roll (71. Bob Seger)

correct, but not THIS match:

53. Old Days + Time (15. The Alan Parsons Project) + 9. It’s Still Rock and Roll to Me = Old Time Rock and Roll (71. Bob Seger)

[littlebeast13]

AND, since we're going for one word - it also tosses out Stop in the Name of Love.

I've been trying to hone in on what the filler songs should be.... but even that's been a chore. fastball has to be here for "The Way", Lonestar's biggest hit was "Amazed" (But I can only come up with "Maybe I'm Amazed, which doesn't fit the pattern), The Commodores would make sense for "Easy" ("Peaceful Easy Feeling" would make sense, but only if most of the match is still in our unknowns), etc. I have found it's hard to think of song titles with a certain word or short phrase in them when what you're looking for is in the middle...

lb13

There is one last refinement to the 'bread' that will make it easier to narrow the matches down. Let me ask it this way. Why is THIS match

53. Old Days + Time (15. The Alan Parsons Project) + 34. The Heart of Rock and Roll = Old Time Rock and Roll (71. Bob Seger)

correct, but not THIS match:

53. Old Days + Time (15. The Alan Parsons Project) + 9. It’s Still Rock and Roll to Me = Old Time Rock and Roll (71. Bob Seger)

Didn't even realize there were two rock and roll songs!

So we need:

First part of a song title + Alternate song title from an artist + Last part of a song title = Alternate song from an artist!

That means I have to change my Santana match to...

3. BLACK + 48. The Cars (MAGIC) + 94. WOMAN = 63. Santana

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[kerryoakie]

I'm new to this, but jumping in with the pop hits...

56. BABY Imma Want You + (ONE MORE--couldn't find this in the list, but may help solve the unknowns) + either 66. One Moment in TIME or 78. Give Me Just a Little TIME = 11. BRITNEY SPEARS

[franktangredi]

I'm new to this, but jumping in with the pop hits...

56. BABY Imma Want You + (ONE MORE--couldn't find this in the list, but may help solve the unknowns) + either 66. One Moment in TIME or 78. Give Me Just a Little TIME = 11. BRITNEY SPEARS

If one of these titles is corrected, it will make everything else fall into place.

[mrkelley23]

Yeah, the correct title of the Chairmen of the Bored song is "Give Me Just a Little MORE TIME," so we need a "One" song for that match. Three Dog Night?

[littlebeast13]

Yeah, the correct title of the Chairmen of the Bored song is "Give Me Just a Little MORE TIME," so we need a "One" song for that match. Three Dog Night?

I always knee-jerk Three Dog Night as well... but just like the last puzzle that was a component of...


56. BABY + 39. U2 (ONE) + 78. MORE TIME = 11. BRITNEY SPEARS

[mellytu74]

Yeah, the correct title of the Chairmen of the Bored song is "Give Me Just a Little MORE TIME," so we need a "One" song for that match. Three Dog Night?

ACK! I didn't realize I didn't have MORE TIME in there.

My own fault for actually singing as I typed. LOL!!!

And -- harking back to Professor Tangredi's LAST lyric game, I believe the provider of ONE will be Bono and friends, 39. U2

[mellytu74]

Yeah, the correct title of the Chairmen of the Bored song is "Give Me Just a Little MORE TIME," so we need a "One" song for that match. Three Dog Night?

I always knee-jerk Three Dog Night as well... but just like the last puzzle that was a component of...


56. BABY + 39. U2 (ONE) + 78. MORE TIME = 11. BRITNEY SPEARS

Alrighty then!

[littlebeast13]

Yeah, the correct title of the Chairmen of the Bored song is "Give Me Just a Little MORE TIME," so we need a "One" song for that match. Three Dog Night?

ACK! I didn't realize I didn't have MORE TIME in there.

My own fault for actually singing as I typed. LOL!!!

And -- harking back to Professor Tangredi's LAST lyric game, I believe the provider of ONE will be Bono and friends, 39. U2

GMTA.... although that may be scary for one of us!

lb13

[franktangredi]

Yeah, the correct title of the Chairmen of the Bored song is "Give Me Just a Little MORE TIME," so we need a "One" song for that match. Three Dog Night?

ACK! I didn't realize I didn't have MORE TIME in there.

My own fault for actually singing as I typed. LOL!!!

And -- harking back to Professor Tangredi's LAST lyric game, I believe the provider of ONE will be Bono and friends, 39. U2

I tried very hard to make Three Dog Night work, but in order for things to come out even, I had to make some songs do double or triple duty.

[jarnon]

Thursday consolidation:


Game #162: Songwich

Identify the 100 songs in the clues below. (Most are from the pop charts, but we make several excursions elsewhere, including a few notable album cuts.) Then, match them into 45 foursomes according to a Tangredi, or principle you must discover for yourself.

51 songs will be used twice, each time in a different capacity. 13 songs will be used three times, each time in a different capacity. One song will be used four times, each time in a different capacity. Yes, there are four ways a song can be used, though two of them are variations of the same usage. You’ll see, I hope.

At least two of the songs in every foursome are used more than once in the game. In twelve of the foursomes, all four songs are used more than once in the game.

A song cannot be used twice in the same foursome.

Where a song title is relevant, words in parentheses should be treated as part of the title.

Where an artist is relevant, I am usually looking for the original artist. There are a few exceptions where someone else arguably had the definitive and/or most successful version of a song.

I hope this proves an easier nut to crack than the last game. And I do hope those pesky alternate solutions don’t screw things up. Play on!

Tangredi:
First part of title + Alternate song title from artist + Last part of title = Alternate song title from artist

Matches:
82. GAMES Without Frontiers + PEOPLE (76. Barbra Streisand) + 91. Let the Music PLAY = 15. Alan Parsons Project
22. SWEET Baby James + DREAMS (38. Fleetwood Mac) + 86. Memories ARE MADE OF THIS = 64. Eurythmics
28. CATCH A Wave + FALLING (45. Montell Jordan) + 76. I'm the Greatest STAR = 16. Perry Como
53. OLD Days + TIME (15. Alan Parsons Project) + 34. The Heart of ROCK AND ROLL = 71. Bob Seger
3. BLACK or White + MAGIC (48. The Cars) + 94. Just Like a WOMAN = 63. Santana
56. BABY, I'ma Want You + ONE (39. U2) + 78. Give Me Just a Little MORE TIME = 11. Britney Spears


1. HELLO, GOOD-BYE - THE BEATLES
2. DO YOU KNOW THE WAY TO SAN JOSE? – DIONNE WARWICK
*3. BLACK OR WHITE - MICHAEL JACKSON
4. EVERY MORNING - SUGAR RAY
5. WEEKEND IN NEW ENGLAND – BARRY MANILOW
6. BEHIND CLOSED DOORS - CHARLIE RICH
7. WORKING ON THE HIGHWAY – BRUCE SPRINGSTEEN
8. I WILL REMEMBER YOU - SARAH McLACHLAN
9. IT'S STILL ROCK AND ROLL TO ME - BILLY JOEL
10. '65 LOVE AFFAIR - PAUL DAVIS
*11. WOMANIZER - BRITNEY SPEARS
12. I WANT TO BE WANTED – BRENDA LEE
13. WHEN I COME AROUND - GREEN DAY
14. YOU GOT IT - ROY ORBISON
**15. EYE IN THE SKY - ALAN PARSONS PROJECT
*16. AND I LOVE YOU SO – PERRY COMO
17. FERRY ACROSS THE MERSEY – GERRY AND THE PACEMAKERS
18. MAKES ME WONDER - MAROON 5
19. TIRED OF BEING ALONE - AL GREEN
20. CLAIRE – GILBERT O’SULLIVAN
21. THE MOST WONDERFUL DAY OF THE YEAR - MISFIT TOYS
*22. SWEET BABY JAMES - JAMES TAYLOR
23. MONEY FOR NOTHING - DIRE STRAITS
24. ON A CAROUSEL - THE HOLLIES
25. WHAT A FOOL BELIEVES - DOOBIE BROTHERS
26. LAY YOUR HANDS ON ME - BON JOVI
27. IT WAS A VERY GOOD YEAR - FRANK SINATRA
*28. CATCH A WAVE - THE BEACH BOYS
29. LOSING MY RELIGION - R.E.M.
30. PLEASE FORGIVE ME - BRYAN ADAMS

31. This is my song for real, no doubt,
See the DJ is making me feel thugged out.

32. I need it when I want it,
I want it when I don't,
Tell myself I'll stop every day,
Knowing that I won't.

33. MY WORLD IS EMPTY WITHOUT YOU – THE SUPREMES
*34. THE HEART OF ROCK AND ROLL - HUEY LEWIS & THE NEWS
35. THESE EYES - THE GUESS WHO
36. I JUST FALL IN LOVE AGAIN - ANNE MURRAY
37. IF SHE KNEW WHAT SHE WANTS - JULES SHEAR (FOR BANGLES)
*38. DON'T STOP - FLEETWOOD MAC
*39. EVEN BETTER THAN THE REAL THING - U2
40. LONESOME LOSER - LITTLE RIVER BAND
41. THAT’S THE WAY I ALWAYS HEARD IT SHOULD BE – CARLY SIMON
42. ACT NATURALLY - BUCK OWENS & HIS BUCKAROOS
43. I WANNA BE DOWN - BRANDY
44. WHO'S ZOOMIN' WHO - ARETHA FRANKLIN
*45. THIS IS HOW WE DO IT - MONTELL JORDAN

46. I want you to love me, like I'm a hot pie
Keep thinkin' of me, doin' what you like.
So boy, forget about the world cause it's gon' be me and you tonight,
I wanna make you beg for it, then I'm-a make you swallow your pride.

47. Here we are,
What is left of a husband and a wife with four good kids
Who have a way of gettin' on with their lives,
And I'm not old but I'm getting a whole lot older every day.
It's too late to keep from goin' crazy,
I've got to get away.

*48. SINCE YOU'RE GONE - THE CARS
49. ALL THROUGH THE NIGHT – CYNDI LAUPER
50. WANNABE - SPICE GIRLS

51. There you are
Holding her hand.
I am lost,
Dying to understand
Didn't I
Cherish you right?
Don't you know
You were my life?

52. YOUR BODY IS A WONDERLAND - JOHN MAYER
*53. OLD DAYS - CHICAGO

54. I won't talk,
I won't breathe,
I won't move till you finally see
That you belong with me.

55. YOU BELONG WITH ME - TAYLOR SWIFT
*56. BABY, I’MA WANT YOU - BREAD
57. DARK LADY - CHER

58. My man put me up for the share, one-fourth of a square,
Headed for Delaware with one change of gear.

59. Nutty-nutty-nutty my love for you,
I can't believe my dreams come true,
I've finally found somebody whose heart is true,
And best of all you love me, too.

60. NO WOMAN, NO CRY - BOB MARLEY
61. TAKE IT ON THE RUN -- REO SPEEDWAGON
62. JOIN TOGETHER - THE WHO
*63. EVERYBODY'S EVERYTHING - SANTANA
*64. LOVE IS A STRANGER - EURYTHMICS

65. Boy, you've been running around too long,
Now I think you're running out of time.
No more jumping in and out of my bed.
It's time for me to draw the line.

66. ONE MOMENT IN TIME - WHITNEY HOUSTON

67. I told my mother, my brother, my sister and my friend,
I told the others, my lovers, both past and present tense.
Every time I see you, everything starts making sense.

68. I’LL WAIT FOR YOU – FRANKIE AVALON
69. NOT A DAY GOES BY - LONESTAR
70. I HATE MYSELF FOR LOVING YOU - JOAN JETT & THE BLACKHEARTS
*71. EVEN NOW - BOB SEGER
72. SHOULD'VE KNOWN BETTER - RICHARD MARX
73. #9 DREAM - JOHN LENNON

74. It’s morning, and we slept the night away.
It happened, now we can’t turn back the hands of time (oh no).
Yes, we’ve stolen this moment, we forgot to face, one simple fact:
We both belong to someone else as we slept the night away.

75. GET DOWN TONIGHT – KC AND THE SUNSHINE BAND
**76. I’M THE GREATEST STAR – BARBRA STREISAND

77. One, two,
I'll party you,
Three, four,
So get your butt on the floor,
Five, six,
Know you dig the mix,
Seven, eight,
Let it shake.

*78. GIVE ME JUST A LITTLE MORE TIME (OR AS HE SINGS TIE-UM) – CHAIRMEN O THE BOARD
79. SAIL ON - COMMODORES
80. HOW DO I LIVE - LEANN RIMES or TRISHA YEARWOOD
81. CHINA GIRL - DAVID BOWIE
*82. GAMES WITHOUT FRONTIERS - PETER GABRIEL
83. NOTHING AT ALL - HEART
84. OUT OF MY HEAD - FASTBALL
85. STOP TO LOVE – LUTHER VANDROSS
*86. MEMORIES ARE MADE OF THIS – DEAN MARTIN
87. LONELY - AKON
88. I THINK I LOVE YOU – PARTRIDGE FAMILY
89. SEPARATE WAYS (WORLDS APART) - JOURNEY

90. Well, I'm about to get sick
From watchin' my TV,
Been checkin' out the news
Until my eyeballs fail to see.
I mean to say that every day
Is just another rotten mess,
And when it's gonna change, my friend,
Is anybody's guess.

*91. LET THE MUSIC PLAY - SHANNON
92. COME DANCING – THE KINKS

93. I'll give the sun,
The rain,
The moon,
The stars and the mountains.
I'll give you the world
And all that you wish for
And even more.

*94. JUST LIKE A WOMAN - BOB DYLAN
95. LOST IN LOVE - AIR SUPPLY

96. I took Katie down by the river with a six dollar bottle of wine,
Just a fool tryin' to play it cool, hopin' she'd let me cross the line.

97. ALONE AT LAST – JACKIE WILSON
98. LET’S HANG ON – FOUR SEASONS

99. You don't have to say what you did,
I already know, I found out from him.
Now there's just no chance for you and me, there'll never be,
And don't it make you sad about it.

100. ALL SHOOK UP - ELVIS PRESLEY


Partial Matches:
85. STOP to Love + IN THE NAME OF (39. U2) + ??? = 33. The Supremes
97. ALONE at Last + ??? + 42. Act NATURALLY = 20. Gilbert O’Sullivan

[mellytu74]

14. YOU + 29. BELONG (R.E.M.) + 9. TO ME = 41. CARLY SIMON

92. COME + 4. FLY (SUGAR RAY + 55. WITH ME = 27. FRANK SINATRA

80. HOW DO + 20. YOU (Gilbert O’Sullivan) + 45. DO IT = 17. GERRY AND THE PACEMAKERS

[mellytu74]

8. I WILL + 26. ALWAYS (BON JOVI) + 88. LOVE YOU = 66. WHITNEY HOUSTON

[mrkelley23]

23. MONEY for Nothing + 81. CHANGES (David Bowie) + 63. Everybody’s EVERYTHING = 49. Cyndi Lauper

21. THE MOST wonderful day of the year + BEAUTIFUL (Christina Aguilera? Got to be here somewhere) + 81. China GIRL = 6. Charlie Rich

44. WHO’S zoomin’ who + 14. CRYIN’ (Roy Orbison) + 71. Even NOW = 89. Journey

[franktangredi]

Damme, I knew alternate answers would sneak in. But that's par for the course.

[littlebeast13]

61. TAKE IT + EASY (79. The Commodores) + 26. ON ME = 40. Little River Band